Pizzagate is "fake news"

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Pizzagate is "fake news"
« on: December 02, 2016, 01:17:15 AM »
If there is any hope, it must lie in the proles..but why the proles, How are they most free to act?

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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2016, 07:54:14 AM »
"Help me!"

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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2016, 09:40:07 AM »
The maker of the video seems to be looking very hard for some reason to put this business in the spotlight. 
This indicates one of two things to me that deserve further inspection.

1) That the maker of the video knows full well what is taking place within the establishment and
   a) authorities cannot or will not act
   b) Is gathering evidence to undermine the criminal enterprise in any way possible

Or,

2) The maker of the video knows that the entire pizza thing is an underground sting op and so doing whatever is possible to impede the investigators.


Ask an undercover yourselves to gain perspective on how twisted their game has to be in order to survive, never mind bring evidence along, all the while being judged by superiors for any misconduct.   

    The first thing that happens in any crime gang is that if you are to be trusted you get incriminated, that means if you're the new guy in a murder ring, you murder first then gain the trust of your peers.  Imagine what that does to the investigators that have to do these things to find out what is really going on.  Else, law enforcement can only pick off stray targets that make critical mistakes.
The other way is by using those judged as condemnable and/or hopelessly lost dregs of society, as written by Test Their Logik: " They train the terrorist, keep them ready to bust"


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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2016, 10:24:48 AM »
Wow. So if you see something, say something if it might be terrorism, but a little girl screaming for help while being walked down a sidewalk, "oh that's none of my business." Remember, this is not just happening in underground tunnels in DC. It's happening on your street corner.

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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2016, 10:30:45 AM »
However, this guy demonstrates how cunning we have to be to expose this stuff. You could show this video to someone and say it's a kidnapping caught on camera, but their willful ignorance will override. Now tell them it's about the hazard of playing ping pong next to traffic, and their mind will automatically key in on what's really happening.

Be ye wise as a serpent, and innocent as a dove.

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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2016, 11:29:53 AM »
Also notice this was taken in 2007.
If there is any hope, it must lie in the proles..but why the proles, How are they most free to act?

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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2016, 01:09:00 PM »
If there is any hope, it must lie in the proles..but why the proles, How are they most free to act?

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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2016, 01:18:44 PM »
J'accuse

https://i.sli.mg/zjPpLO.png

I wonder what other homemade "ingredients" they add to their food from what's in the basement.

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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2016, 03:04:25 PM »
J'accuse

https://i.sli.mg/zjPpLO.png

Checked out the article and noticed these tweets:

Miller Retweeted
🌟Homeboy Chris🌟 @TheHomeboyChris

Now James Alefantis says Comet doesn't have a basement.  Not what he told Metro Weekly.  Why the discrepancy?  Hiding something?  #PizzaGate
30 Nov

Martin Houston @mhoust42

BBC are LIARS re the basement LOOK https://web.archive.org/web/20150420042134/http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/
33m

http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/

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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2016, 04:26:28 PM »
Trending article on BBC news "The saga of Pizzagate"
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-38156985

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"They ignore basic truths," Alefantis tells BBC Trending. For instance, the conspiracy supposedly is run out of the restaurant's basement. "We don't even have a basement."

Edit:  Mea Culpa again!  I hadn't read NRG's link yet grrr
« Last Edit: December 02, 2016, 04:28:38 PM by ninti »

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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2016, 05:35:52 PM »
Google Graphic Proves How The MSM ‘Fake News’ Strategy Was Implemented To Short-Circuit PIZZAGATE Scandal

Perfectly Timed
MSM ‘Fake News’ Narrative
Was Cooked Up
As A “Necessity”
By The Ruling Elites

The Google graphic posted above is worth a million words…that essentially constitutes a scathing indictment of the Mainstream Media (MSM).

For those who are not good at reading graphs, may we spell it out for you?

The top RED line shows that the ‘Fake News’ meme was quite purposefully disseminated throughout the World Wide Web just 2 or 3 days before the PIZZAGATE scandal broke wide open.  The bottom BLUE line shows the trending of PIZZAGATE on Google just after ‘Fake News’ was made to go viral (see how the RED line clearly dominates the BLUE line)  In other words the new meme was deliberately planted in stories everywhere across the Internet.  Even Obama went to Europe to talk about the “spread of fake news online” when he was in Germany in mid November.

In other words, the ruling elites, who are literally up to their eyeballs in pizza[GATE], ordered the MSM magnates to blitz the worldwide media with the ‘Fake News’ narrative just days before PIZZAGATE exploded on the scene.  That’s how really afraid the Deep State is of PIZZAGATE going supernova.

http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/12/google-graphic-proves-how-the-msm-fake-news-strategy-was-implemented-to-short-circuit-pizzagate-scandal/

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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2016, 09:07:52 AM »
Google Graphic Proves How The MSM ‘Fake News’ Strategy Was Implemented To Short-Circuit PIZZAGATE Scandal

Perfectly Timed
MSM ‘Fake News’ Narrative
Was Cooked Up
As A “Necessity”
By The Ruling Elites

The Google graphic posted above is worth a million words…that essentially constitutes a scathing indictment of the Mainstream Media (MSM).

For those who are not good at reading graphs, may we spell it out for you?

The top RED line shows that the ‘Fake News’ meme was quite purposefully disseminated throughout the World Wide Web just 2 or 3 days before the PIZZAGATE scandal broke wide open.  The bottom BLUE line shows the trending of PIZZAGATE on Google just after ‘Fake News’ was made to go viral (see how the RED line clearly dominates the BLUE line)  In other words the new meme was deliberately planted in stories everywhere across the Internet.  Even Obama went to Europe to talk about the “spread of fake news online” when he was in Germany in mid November.

In other words, the ruling elites, who are literally up to their eyeballs in pizza[GATE], ordered the MSM magnates to blitz the worldwide media with the ‘Fake News’ narrative just days before PIZZAGATE exploded on the scene.  That’s how really afraid the Deep State is of PIZZAGATE going supernova.

http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/12/google-graphic-proves-how-the-msm-fake-news-strategy-was-implemented-to-short-circuit-pizzagate-scandal/

Excellent post. Action-reaction.

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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2016, 12:55:39 PM »
Some of the evidence that keeps getting repeated around the net is tenuous. The basement thing. "Last year, Alefantis estiates, he bought 12 tons of Toigo tomatoes, which Stello turned into sauce and canned ***before trucking the jars to the basement at Buck's Fishing & Camping***, Alefantis's other restaurant just a few steps down the block on Connecticut Avenue NW."
A reasonable investigator can extrapolate pretty easily from there. See also,
feature=youtu.be
Re:OP's video: the guy who shot that didn't have any more juice on Comet, than that they "spit on your pizza" and would "bring the murder and the rape, just like in Adams Morgan". Again, this is documented. His name shows up at the end of the video, g--gle it.
The investigation itself hangs on a tatty skeleton. CP, when the "Comet" sign came from a liquor store in Adams Morgan, for starters.
Can anyone invalidate Alefantis' claim that he grew up playing ping pong with his folks? Then you might be onto something. If not, Occam's razor applies.
However! In the video I linked to, James says the murals have been down for 5, 6 years. Here is a video released but a year ago:
. Right?
Edit: Actually if you scroll through the pages you can see that it originated in 2011. Always double check.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2016, 01:31:54 PM by Hardman_T »

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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2016, 01:12:08 PM »
"Lisa Drazin cried when she ordered the banner announcing "Farewell Sale," and she cried some more when she hung it in the window of the liquor store her father opened most mornings for 25 years, including on the day he died.

After his funeral in March, Sidney Drazin's family vowed to keep open the Comet, the Adams Morgan liquor store and deli where generations have traipsed for French and Italian wines, bagels imported from New York and a near-bottomless font of conversation.

But the workload has proved too much for Drazin's widow, Bernice, 76, who plans to close next week and sell off everything, including the dinosaur of a cash register and the shop's art deco sign, which the family says was put up in the 1930s and has evolved into a glowing neighborhood landmark. A hair salon chain is negotiating with the family to lease the property at Columbia Road NW. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/26/AR2005122600755.html

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Re: Pizzagate is "fake news"
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2016, 01:28:50 PM »
Interesting read on Wikipedia Talk about Comet Ping Pong:

Comet Ping Pong's (Schrodinger's?) Basement

In trying to ascertain whether or not Comet Ping Pong has a basement in a general description of the property, which source do we use?

This Metro Weekly interview from 2015 where Alefantis claims Comet Ping Pong has a basement, used for storing canned vegetables and sauces:

Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in.


And this one from the BBC from late 2016, where he emphatically denies having a basement:

"They ignore basic truths," Alefantis tells BBC Trending. For instance, the conspiracy supposedly is run out of the restaurant's basement. "We don't even have a basement."


Which source do we use? Alefantis seems to contradict himself, unless he filled in his basement over the course of that year, to which DC property improvement permits wouldn't corroborate such a theory. Solntsa90 (talk) 17:08, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

    Drawing conclusions from interviews and permit laws violates WP:SYNTH. Inquisitr appears to cover this, but it's "investigation" doesn't go beyond citing these interviews and noting that they appear to contradict. A better source would state definitively whether or not the restaurant has a basement. FallingGravity 17:44, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

The This Metro Weekly interview article is credible. It was written before the Pizzagate story broke.Cllgbksr (talk) 11:55, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

    The Metro interview as also mentioned in an recent article by Inquisitr. Yoshiman6464 (talk) 15:43, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
    Whether they have a basement is worthy of mention how exactly? --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:52, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

In a routine, physical description of the property. I don't see how exactly it is undue. Solntsa90 (talk) 19:47, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

    This is an article about a restaurant, not a building. The cited sources are not about its basement or its physical characteristics for that matter. Can you please find an article about another restaurant that mentions its basement? --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:15, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
    Another problem is that any reference to a basement would fuel the conspiracy theories, making it non-neutral given its utter non-noteworthiness. Please don't do that. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:18, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Another problem is that any reference to a basement would fuel the conspiracy theories, making it non-neutral given its utter non-noteworthiness.

Whose fault is that, and why is describing a basement in a building considered 'controversial'? There is either a basement or there isn't, it shouldn't be considered contentious, and conspiracy theorists are going to believe whatever they want to believe anyway.

I see no reason for the exclusion of the reference to the basement, especially when Alefantis was bragging about it to Metro Weekly back in 2015. Solntsa90 (talk) 20:50, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

    I don't care whose fault it is. It's a fact, and you still haven't pointed me to any comparable articles. If you insist on pressing this issue we can take it to the fringe theories noticeboard. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:55, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

It's a fringe conspiracy theory to say whether an innocent pizza parlour has a basement!?? Solntsa90 (talk) 21:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

    That's a funny, but I'm having trouble assuming good faith. Do you plan to keep pressing this or not? --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 22:15, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

You didn't answer my question. Solntsa90 (talk) 15:45, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

    I don't need to answer rhetorical questions or respond to obvious straw man arguments. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:49, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Comet_Ping_Pong