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That is really beautiful. A connection between writer and reader that actually comes to life when the words become the readers as well as the writers. I wish I could read everyone's book.

Hello Anam Cara,

Can you explain what you mean by "a connection between writer and reader that actually comes to life...?" More precisely, can you explicate what you experienced while reading post #176? You're doing do so might help others gain an experiential understanding of what Dialectical Interchange can engender if approached in the correct manner.

Best Regards,
Ambrosius Theophilus

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"The extraterrestrial plasmate—which lies dormant in esoteric religious texts until ‘awakened’ by a reader—fulfills the transformative function of the logos. The transformation of perspective brought about by the logos is depicted as a symbiotic relationship in which the living word gradually reconstructs the individual, shaping him or her in such a manner that he or she can perceive the absolute reality underlying the phenomenal world."

- Gabriel Mckee, Pink Beams of Light from the God in the Gutter:
The Science-Fictional Religion of Philip K. Dick
, 2004


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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 24, 2017, 02:13:31 PM »
Hello Ambrosius Theophilus

Would you be willing to continue with the dialectical interchange?
I felt that we had barely begun and I would like to explore it some more.

Hello Ar Go ap Dyn,

I am "willing to continue with the dialectical interchange" provided you answer the below questions in strictest honesty. Carelessness for spelling and grammar is a sure sign one is not sufficiently committed to the arduous requirements Dialectical Interchange involves. Some will think this to be a presumptuous and supercilious attitude, but it is simply the case that Dialectical Interchange can only operate under very precise conditions.

Respond to these five questions using the quote function in a reply to this message, completing your responses as soon as you are able.

1) What understanding, if any, do you currently have of Plato's explication of Dialectical Interchange?

2) Describe in detail why you perceive engaging in Dialectical Interchange would be beneficial.

3) What sensations, feelings, or thoughts arise when you listen to the band James; in particular, the song Sound you linked to in this thread?

4) What was your initial reaction to the Original Post, Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons?

5) What has been your reaction(s) while reading the subsequent contributions from other posters, including my responses?

Best Regards,
Ambrosius Theophilus

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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 24, 2017, 12:07:08 PM »

I'm a firm believer that brevity is the essence of communication.  If you are being misunderstood, perhaps it's time to peel back the circuitous ornamentation and extra words and get to the nuts and bolts of what it is you are trying to convey.   

"The world as it appears to common sense consists of an indefinite number of successive and presumably causally connected events, involving an indefinite number of separate, individual things, lives and thoughts, the whole constituting a presumably orderly cosmos. It is in order to describe, discuss and manage this common-sense universe that human languages have been developed.

"Whenever, for any reason, we wish to think of the world, not as it appears to common sense, but as a continuum, we find that our traditional syntax and vocabulary are quite inadequate. Mathematicians have therefore been compelled to invent radically new symbol-systems for this express purpose. But the divine Ground of all existence is not merely a continuum, it is also out of time, and different, not merely in degree, but in kind from the worlds to which traditional language and the languages of mathematics are adequate. Hence, in all expositions of the Perennial Philosophy, the frequency of paradox, or verbal extravagance, sometimes even of seeming blasphemy. Nobody has yet invented a Spiritual Calculus, in terms of which we may talk coherently about the divine Ground and of the world conceived as its manifestation. For the present, therefore, we must be patient with the linguistic eccentricities of those who are compelled to describe one order of experience in terms of a symbol-system, whose relevance is to the facts of another and quite different order.

"So far, then as a fully adequate expression of the Perennial Philosophy is concerned, there exists a problem in semantics that is finally insoluble. The fact is one which must be steadily borne in mind by all who read its formulations. Only in this way shall we be able to understand even remotely what is being talked about."

- Aldous Huxley, The Perennial Philosophy

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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 24, 2017, 02:45:56 AM »
To offer contrast in this Dialectical Whirlwind we find ourselves in the following is a well-written missive which I post for readers to use as an example of the respect and awareness one must possess to effectively engage in Dialectical Interchange. Without the proper attitude and frame of mind, Dialectical Interchange will seem like nothing more than odd-ball writing with an excess of verbiage; certainly nothing which possesses a Higher Form of spiritual and intellectual potency.

Careful readers will notice a distinct difference in timbre between this writing and the writing of others, and can use this as a point of meditation in their own Inner Dialectical Interchange with their Higher Self.

"Hello Ambrosius Theophilus,

I would like to begin by thanking you for your willingness to engage with me. Already I have felt the benefits and memories long-forgotten are returning to me.

I am most eager to continue the dialogue with you. I suspect I know where it could possibly go. I also know that whether I reach that destination or not is entirely dependent on me and the attitude I bring to the dialogue. As such, all I can ask of you is your time and willingness to use some of it conversing with me. Would you be willing? I would be most grateful.

I wish to have the eyes that Blake had once again:

To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.


I wish to return home and assist my brothers and sisters do the same.
I cannot imagine a greater purpose or a better use of a life.

I hope you take my sentiments to be true and sincere.
The world is in a perilous state.
We must reach out to the good, we must have more exemplars of the good.

I eagerly await your reply.
"

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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 24, 2017, 02:24:40 AM »
It is always interesting to note the diverse replies and statements one encounters in Dialectical Interchange; online forums being no exception. As often happens, one is bound to come across denizens of the interwebs who consider themselves so brilliant that no amount of illumination could ever enlighten their vast and already impressive storehouse of wisdom and knowledge.

For example: in a recent post Creatively designed to highlight the metaphorical elements in a well-known cultural work of art for the purpose of illustrating an operative element within genuine spiritual teachings, a respondent--who assumed they possess an understanding of the allegorical level of the book version simply because they have a passing familiarity with it--proceeded to do the author a great favor by writing a literal recount of the tale in counter-distinction to the original Creatively designed post.

Though this poster imitated the first as best he could, even going so far as to include snippets of dialogue and a final quote at the end--just like the author had--he was not gracious enough to offer his studied opinion on what the literature cited was about, or why he was even taking such great pains to "correct" the author's original intentions. Obviously deciding that it wasn't necessary to elucidate his reason for responding to begin with (surely owing to the aforementioned excess of illumination) he quite skillfully reserved disclosing his insight of a higher perception to other interlocutors. 

The Pièce De Résistance happened when a stalwart minister of this forum heartily congratulated his cohort with an approving pat on the virtual back, offering fulsome praise for his outstanding analysis and keen insight. And with the added benefit of the extra wisdom he was kindly willing to share, I must therefore begrudgingly and sheepishly admit that I am thoroughly incapable of assisting such advanced luminaries. I no doubt expect they will wholeheartedly agree with my self-assessment.

It is persons such as this that will forever provide a coruscating light for those of us less dimly lit.

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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 23, 2017, 11:59:38 AM »
The wizard of oz was a charlatan, a huxster and impotent beyond his illusion, an apt comparison indeed.


That's not the great and powerful wizard I know. If by charlatan and huckster you mean someone who had the insight to know you can't do anything for anybody, that one can only provide experiences which allow for others to realize what they have known (forgotten?) all along.

Four companions travel the Yellow Brick Road to the Emerald City because they've heard the Wizard can grant what they're seeking. During their first encounter with the Wizard he tells them they must vanquish the Wicked Witch of the West. After returning successfully from their journey they present her broomstick as proof of their accomplishment. When they press the Wizard about what they came for he tells them to come back at a later time, that he needs to think things over. Toto sees not is all what it appears and grabbing the curtain pulling it aside reveals the real Wizard. Surprised at the new revelation, they all surround him demanding to know what he is going to do about his promises:

Scarecrow: What about the heart that you promised Tin Man, and the courage you promised Cowardly Lion!?
Cowardly Lion, Tin Man (together): And Scarecrow's brain?!


He then gives them as a token a diploma, medal, and a ticking clock and helps them see that they had a brain, a heart, and courage all along! They had only TO REALIZE it! He did so by sending them on a quest which would simultaneously help them reveal the very conditions they were looking for. All Dorothy had to remember was there's no place like home and by simply clicking her ruby slippers together, she broke the magic spell, waking up in her bed back in Kansas.

There's much more to the Wizard of Oz than meets the eye. This is just one of many fantastical secrets of Oz, the first Wizard Deluxe.


"Back where I come from there are men who do nothing all day but good deeds. They are called phila... er, phila... er, yes, er, Good Deed Doers."
- Wizard of Oz


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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:32:03 PM »
I'd like to point out that only 2 people buying this vapid, circuitous drivel are non-native speakers of the English language.

I have known both of them to be curious insightful and perceptive, however giving their rather unique commonality I'm inclined to believe the language barrier is somehow lending credence to this exercise in futility.

Well there you go!! This thread is doing its job!

We announced--in the very first post--that if you join today, you'll get the half price sale. Now, since you've mentioned that only two people have bought this drivel, that means we've finally broken even!

And, true to my word, I said we'd throw in--completely FREE of charge--my Advanced threads!

However, supplies now are EXTREMELY limited. We HAVE been voided and prohibited. And prices and participation are DEFINITELY varying.

But our kind and gracious Operators are still on standby ready to take your next order.

Go ahead, and pick that phone up today!

What have you got to lose?!

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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:12:49 PM »
This has been a good start and introduction. The questions asked and the "transmission" intuited by some of the members is an encouraging sign. I foresee future vicissitudes that will contribute in ways as of yet unknown.

Care must be taken in endeavors such as what is being attempted here. Very real and powerful psychic phenomenon are at play and it would be remissful to assume that this is merely another post on yet another forum in this, the Webbed Wide World of Internets.

You, the reader, can use the examples of those who have posted here to aide in the "cleansing of your own mirror."

Many thanks to all who have participated.

I will end it here for the night.

Hello Ambrosius.  Interesting start to a thread.  You have polarised opinions here quite fast, I see.  I'm curious to see more of your 'game'.

'Immortal friend of God'...  do you consider yourself to be like Merlin?  I ask because of the name you chose and other hints you give.  I am further assuming from your stance, that you have cleansed your own mirror and that your self-awareness is crystal clear. 

Did you mean 'remiss' as in neglectful, rather than 'remissful' as in lenient?  Why do I get a sort of ominous/threatening feeling from what you write?  I can't explain it but it seems you ride a very high horse.  No offense meant, just curious.

"Imagine if you can a world in which truth is one general and something we will call blindness is the opposing general. These two simple factors one must choose between. There are no neutrals. We are frankly for or against and hold our positions by the force of the effort we put forth. The great struggle is not only to conquer our opposing forces, but to reclaim and form them into fighters for the truth."

- Stewart and Betty White, 20th Century Perennialist Teachers

Thank you for helping me see that it was remiss of me to write remissful.

Merlin was indeed a great and mighty Wizard, much like the Wizard of 'Oz'; and in answer to your query, have I "cleansed [my] own mirror and [is my] self-awareness is crystal clear," I'll happily purloin his remissful rejoinder to Dorothy: "Oh, no my dear. I'm a very good man. I'm just a very bad Wizard.”

Why do you get a sort of ominous/threatening feeling from what I write? And would you say it is just a "sort," or something more substantial, would you say?

And finally lastly, I haven't ridden any horses--tall or short, of course--since I was a much younger lad in far sunnier climes. However, what I did mange to learn is there's a lot that can be gleaned from both low riding and high stepping.

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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 22, 2017, 01:32:29 AM »
This has been a good start and introduction. The questions asked and the "transmission" intuited by some of the members is an encouraging sign. I foresee future vicissitudes that will contribute in ways as of yet unknown.

Care must be taken in endeavors such as what is being attempted here. Very real and powerful psychic phenomenon are at play and it would be remissful to assume that this is merely another post on yet another forum in this, the Webbed Wide World of Internets.

You, the reader, can use the examples of those who have posted here to aide in the "cleansing of your own mirror."

Many thanks to all who have participated.

I will end it here for the night.

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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 22, 2017, 01:13:49 AM »
Ambrosius:

Consider in my entries that I think and write in Spanish and then translate into English.

The dialogue with you is in itself a kind of transmission of, say, some kind of energy destined to activate internal potentialities?

That's a very lovely sentiment.

"The original undifferentiated energy from creation is termed Akasha in Indian philosophy and modern occult circles. In some embodiments of the Perennial Tradition it is termed the Secret Fire. This elemental psychic energy is completely instinctual and unconscious and is heavily influenced by spiritual, psychic, and psychological phenomena. One of the major functions of the Secret Fire is to increase human self-awareness. At the lowest level, this is the ego, at its highest, it is the Higher Self.

"In the vast majority of humanity, this Secret Fire, or liberating energy of self-consciousness, is said to lie dormant at the base of the spine, coiled like a serpent. By learning to contact the various focal points of energy, what are called the chakras, the person moves her locus of consciousness into the various areas. If the Secret Fire reaches the top of the skull and beyond, spiritual awakening can occur, allowing for a descent and re-ascent of the energy, during which the psychic centers can be awakened, allowing for the manifestation of psychic powers and related phenomena."

- Spiritual Energy
 Hermes-Press.com

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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:39:33 AM »
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In a previous post you indicated you felt arrogance, with a "know better than you mentality."

Is this what you mean by the "fettered mind"?
I consider it to be one of the fetters. I am sure there are others.

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If you could "unfetter" your mind, what do you suppose reality would be like to you?
I have had such experiences, or approximations thereof. Those experiences elicited a multitude of deep emotions; grief, relief, awe and a deep sense of the inherent beauty of existence.

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Do you suppose having that experience might be frightful?
Yes and no. I would be lying if I were to say there is no fear. Although in my experience the fear generated by apprehension is worse than the reality.
I believe absolute honesty is a pre-condition and that requires seeing the worst in me as well as the best in me. But the peace that might be attained seems to me worthwhile.

Can you go into more details about what experiences you've had wherein you felt "deep emotions?" Did they involve drugs, near death experiences, sex, etc.?

What literature, if any, have you studied in regards to "cleansing the mirror of your soul" (to borrow Hakim Sanai's metaphor)?

"I believe absolute honesty is a pre-condition and that requires seeing the worst in me as well as the best in me."

"Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing
and rightdoing there is a field.
I'll meet you there.
When the soul lies down in that grass
the world is too full to talk about."

- Rumi

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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:27:55 AM »
The only things I learned were from doing my own research (on the Hermes press website curiously enough).  Sounds like psychobabble to me.  NeuroLinguistic Programming?  Hypnosis?  It seems to me you would become dependent on the "guide".  I'm trying to free my mind, not enslave it.

"The real Master is not who has the most disciples. The real Master is who makes the most Masters."

Have you "done research" on The New Enlightenment website before; or are you indicating you've done so just now?

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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:17:10 AM »
There is a tendency to project one's mind out into the world and to call that "reality".
But reality exists as it is, the wise are capable to simply "see" it.

Perhaps we could term that, the unfettered mind.

In a previous post you indicated you felt arrogance, with a "know better than you mentality."

Is this what you mean by the "fettered mind"?

If you could "unfetter" your mind, what do you suppose reality would be like to you?

Do you suppose having that experience might be frightful?

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The Master Board / Re: Thread full of easily hypnotized buffoons
« on: April 21, 2017, 11:58:46 PM »
If there are no objections, I am willing to engage Ambrosius in dialogue.

What did you take away after reading The New Platonic Dialogue?

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