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#15: September 25, 2020, 12:26:52 PM
Babalon + Shugal = Choronzon

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#16: September 25, 2020, 12:47:13 PM
Who did the Greeks name the greatest monster/beast? His Greek consort is also called a Mother of Abominations.
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#17: October 03, 2020, 05:19:55 AM
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Who did the Greeks name the greatest monster/beast? His Greek consort is also called a Mother of Abominations.

The 'Lupus' constellation was apparently named 'Therion' (Greek word for 'beast') in second century BC. 'Lupus' is a wolf.

I'm not certain that's what you were referring to but if dogs (descendant from wolves) are 'man's best friend' then this would appear to imply that 'the beast' has been demonized to keep Man from realizing its physical (but not limited to) potential and afraid of themselves.

Man may not be the highest up on the food chain but still 'devours' all that it has the will and desire to with either wit, physical might or a combination of the two.

I don't remember what the quote is or where its from but there is one that speaks about how brutal a creature Man is and how it gets what it wants if it simply wills it to be. The given example in the quote had something to do with hunting.

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#18: October 03, 2020, 05:35:48 AM
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Babalon + Shugal = Choronzon

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'Babalon' is the female aspect and 'Shugal' is the male aspect of 'Choronzon' apparently.

If Crowley's obsession with 'Babalon' was largely influenced by Choronzon despite his (Crowley's) best intentions then this appears to further support what is stated about the two aspects of Choronzon.

If Crowley was able to 'beat' (if you want to call it that) Shugal but got hung up on Babalon, then that would appear to support the information of him being a Man but not going 'all the way' with it and not able to successfully beat Choronzon (something apparently never done before, at least not recorded).
If he was really able to conquer half of Choronzon's aspects then he would still be able to 'pass' and see what exists beyond but not fully.

Shugal is apparently conceived of as a wolf. How is that related to Fenrir and Loki?
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#19: October 03, 2020, 08:06:06 AM
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Shugal is apparently conceived of as a wolf. How is that related to Fenrir and Loki?

I believe Fenrir is the Norse telling of the Beast of Revelations. Same prophecy.

The name Shugal gives the English ‘jackal’ and the Hebrew fox.
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#20: October 03, 2020, 08:28:55 AM
the trickster is a coyote typically
but the trickster can enbody many forms.
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#21: October 03, 2020, 11:10:31 AM
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the trickster is a coyote typically
but the trickster can enbody many forms.

A 'coyote' is defined as a 'prairie wolf'. If that is accurate then a 'coyote' is still a wolf. The trickster can embody many forms but it does appear to prefer some over others.
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#22: October 03, 2020, 02:02:28 PM
AFAIK the Beast isn’t a trickster-god archetype. When it’s Typhon vs Zeus for example the monster doesn’t play a heroic or ambiguously Luciferian role.
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Shugal is apparently conceived of as a wolf. How is that related to Fenrir and Loki?

I believe Fenrir is the Norse telling of the Beast of Revelations. Same prophecy.

The name Shugal gives the English ‘jackal’ and the Hebrew fox.

The etymology of 'jackal' is 'the howler'. From Persian 'shaghal' and Sanskrit 'srgala-s'. Phonetically it's pretty close if not the same as 'shugal'.

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jackal (n.)
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If there really was an old belief that jackals stirred up game for lions then I wonder what that implies. Keeping in mind that Rofsy and his crew associate with the lion, who would the jackals and the game being stirred up be?
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#24: October 07, 2020, 12:32:05 AM
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Shugal is apparently conceived of as a wolf. How is that related to Fenrir and Loki?

I believe Fenrir is the Norse telling of the Beast of Revelations. Same prophecy.

The name Shugal gives the English ‘jackal’ and the Hebrew fox.

The etymology of 'jackal' is 'the howler'. From Persian 'shaghal' and Sanskrit 'srgala-s'. Phonetically it's pretty close if not the same as 'shugal'.

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"Figurative sense of "skulking henchman" is from the old belief that jackals stirred up game for lions."
jackal (n.)
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If there really was an old belief that jackals stirred up game for lions then I wonder what that implies. Keeping in mind that Rofsy and his crew associate with the lion, who would the jackals and the game being stirred up be?

Jack ELs

Pull on that thread
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#25: October 07, 2020, 09:06:47 AM
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Shugal is apparently conceived of as a wolf. How is that related to Fenrir and Loki?

I believe Fenrir is the Norse telling of the Beast of Revelations. Same prophecy.

The name Shugal gives the English ‘jackal’ and the Hebrew fox.

The etymology of 'jackal' is 'the howler'. From Persian 'shaghal' and Sanskrit 'srgala-s'. Phonetically it's pretty close if not the same as 'shugal'.

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"Figurative sense of "skulking henchman" is from the old belief that jackals stirred up game for lions."
jackal (n.)
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If there really was an old belief that jackals stirred up game for lions then I wonder what that implies. Keeping in mind that Rofsy and his crew associate with the lion, who would the jackals and the game being stirred up be?

Jack ELs

Pull on that thread
jack (n.)
late 14c., jakke "a mechanical device''
saturnian robots
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from Jacob "one that takes by the heel; a supplanter
jack, a common man, supplanting EL

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