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Here I wil state truths many are unaware of unburdened by having to prove them..lol if you want to decry or support feel free. 

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Homsexuality was not only not practiced by the Spartans it was abhorred and grounds for loss of rights of a citizen in all of Greece, even ultra liberal Athens

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Here I wil state truths many are unaware of unburdened by having to prove them..lol if you want to decry or support feel free. 

Lets kick it off right.

Homsexuality was not only not practiced by the Spartans it was abhorred and grounds for loss of rights of a citizen in all of Greece, even ultra liberal Athens

If you enter a mans posterior in general is that 'homosexuality' or is that something else? Is the act itself homosexuality or is it a little more detailed than that? I still have to research this myself but if they took citizens rights away from this but let their most advanced soldiers use it then they clearly saw something of a double edged sword of lethality to this practice.

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Here I wil state truths many are unaware of unburdened by having to prove them..lol if you want to decry or support feel free. 

Lets kick it off right.

Homsexuality was not only not practiced by the Spartans it was abhorred and grounds for loss of rights of a citizen in all of Greece, even ultra liberal Athens

If you enter a mans posterior in general is that 'homosexuality' or is that something else? Is the act itself homosexuality or is it a little more detailed than that? I still have to research this myself but if they took citizens rights away from this but let their most advanced soldiers use it then they clearly saw something of a double edged sword of lethality to this practice.

The Spartans not only didn't practice  it but abhorred it.

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Blacks owned more slaves per capita then whites

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Here I wil state truths many are unaware of unburdened by having to prove them..lol if you want to decry or support feel free. 

Lets kick it off right.

Homsexuality was not only not practiced by the Spartans it was abhorred and grounds for loss of rights of a citizen in all of Greece, even ultra liberal Athens

If you enter a mans posterior in general is that 'homosexuality' or is that something else? Is the act itself homosexuality or is it a little more detailed than that? I still have to research this myself but if they took citizens rights away from this but let their most advanced soldiers use it then they clearly saw something of a double edged sword of lethality to this practice.

The Spartans not only didn't practice  it but abhorred it.

Sorry I misread the first post.

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Here I wil state truths many are unaware of unburdened by having to prove them..lol if you want to decry or support feel free. 

Lets kick it off right.

Homsexuality was not only not practiced by the Spartans it was abhorred and grounds for loss of rights of a citizen in all of Greece, even ultra liberal Athens

If you enter a mans posterior in general is that 'homosexuality' or is that something else? Is the act itself homosexuality or is it a little more detailed than that? I still have to research this myself but if they took citizens rights away from this but let their most advanced soldiers use it then they clearly saw something of a double edged sword of lethality to this practice.

The Spartans not only didn't practice  it but abhorred it.

So in school and "higher institutions" of so called learning they teach that Greeks started and readily accepted homosexuality and pedophilia within their society. It never rang to true to me when I heard that. To me, it always seemed as it was a way to mock the people and their culture. So who taught and mainstreamed homosexuality and pedophilia throughout the ages? I'm assuming it was the Jews that brought such depravity and corruption to a culture to watch it be destroyed from within.
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Here I wil state truths many are unaware of unburdened by having to prove them..lol if you want to decry or support feel free. 

Lets kick it off right.

Homsexuality was not only not practiced by the Spartans it was abhorred and grounds for loss of rights of a citizen in all of Greece, even ultra liberal Athens

If you enter a mans posterior in general is that 'homosexuality' or is that something else? Is the act itself homosexuality or is it a little more detailed than that? I still have to research this myself but if they took citizens rights away from this but let their most advanced soldiers use it then they clearly saw something of a double edged sword of lethality to this practice.

The Spartans not only didn't practice  it but abhorred it.

So in school and "higher institutions" of so called learning they teach that Greeks started and readily accepted homosexuality and pedophilia within their society. It never rang to true to me when I heard that. To me, it always seemed as it was a way to mock the people and their culture. So who taught and mainstreamed homosexuality and pedophilia throughout the ages? I'm assuming it was the Jews that brought such depravity and corruption to a culture to watch it be destroyed from within.
Never thought it to be true as well. The “evidence” of this circulating around are some vases/pots/artwork depicting these vile acts. Doesn’t seem like enough. The worst form of inequality is making unequal things equal... This narrative has helped to put the great things of the greeks in the background, from ways of academia, military training, stoicism and so on.

Would I be right in saying - the modern greeks have basically no connection to the ancient greeks in the same way ancient egyptians have no genetic connection to the modern ones?

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Here I wil state truths many are unaware of unburdened by having to prove them..lol if you want to decry or support feel free. 

Lets kick it off right.

Homsexuality was not only not practiced by the Spartans it was abhorred and grounds for loss of rights of a citizen in all of Greece, even ultra liberal Athens

If you enter a mans posterior in general is that 'homosexuality' or is that something else? Is the act itself homosexuality or is it a little more detailed than that? I still have to research this myself but if they took citizens rights away from this but let their most advanced soldiers use it then they clearly saw something of a double edged sword of lethality to this practice.

The Spartans not only didn't practice  it but abhorred it.

So in school and "higher institutions" of so called learning they teach that Greeks started and readily accepted homosexuality and pedophilia within their society. It never rang to true to me when I heard that. To me, it always seemed as it was a way to mock the people and their culture. So who taught and mainstreamed homosexuality and pedophilia throughout the ages? I'm assuming it was the Jews that brought such depravity and corruption to a culture to watch it be destroyed from within.
Never thought it to be true as well. The “evidence” of this circulating around are some vases/pots/artwork depicting these vile acts. Doesn’t seem like enough. The worst form of inequality is making unequal things equal... This narrative has helped to put the great things of the greeks in the background, from ways of academia, military training, stoicism and so on.

Would I be right in saying - the modern greeks have basically no connection to the ancient greeks in the same way ancient egyptians have no genetic connection to the modern ones?

I'm going to weigh in here, but would love to hear Nicks thoughts on it as well. I love history and genetics and do an awfully lot of reading about the stuff in my free time and from what I discovered the Hellenistic Greeks- who were blue eyed and blonde haired migrated northward. From what I gather the Germanic and Celtic peoples are probably the closest genetically to the ancient Hellenistic Greeks. Today's Greeks are mostly mixed with Arabic/Turkish blood which is why a lot of them have black hair and a dark complexion.

History repeats itself and it seems to be a similar story today with the migration of Middle Easterners into Western Europe which draws parallels to what happened to the Hellenistic Greeks that decided to stay in Greece. There is no doubt in my mind that after some of the Hellenistic Greeks migrated Northward into Western Europe, that the ones who chose to stay behind has their bloodline purposely muddied by the Arabs like were seeing today in Western Europe.

 If you look at the Arabs genetically as a whole they look like a very "white-washed" mulatto gene pool that now only has a small percentage African DNA left. It's odd isn't that when you categorize race that Middle Eastern is not considered it's own category or an option. I guess they were considered the Hispanics of antiquity as not to have their own category of race, but only a distinct and recognizable culture. Which coincidently always had me wondering what was the original blood line of the inhabitants of the Middle East were prior to their race mixing with local Africans?

On a side note there is a big Greek community where I live called Tarpon Springs and even though most of the Greeks in this area have Turkish influence in their genetics as almost all of them are dark haired with dark complexion, they all speak of a time when they were once blonde hair and blue eyed before the Turks came in and raped their people and their culture. These Greeks even though they now share a similar bloodline with the Turkish people vehemently hate them for trauma. It is such a deep rooted hatred that it must be both biological and spiritual in nature as it seems to be a trauma that is remembered and carried on within their DNA...
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Here I wil state truths many are unaware of unburdened by having to prove them..lol if you want to decry or support feel free. 

Lets kick it off right.

Homsexuality was not only not practiced by the Spartans it was abhorred and grounds for loss of rights of a citizen in all of Greece, even ultra liberal Athens

If you enter a mans posterior in general is that 'homosexuality' or is that something else? Is the act itself homosexuality or is it a little more detailed than that? I still have to research this myself but if they took citizens rights away from this but let their most advanced soldiers use it then they clearly saw something of a double edged sword of lethality to this practice.

The Spartans not only didn't practice  it but abhorred it.

So in school and "higher institutions" of so called learning they teach that Greeks started and readily accepted homosexuality and pedophilia within their society. It never rang to true to me when I heard that. To me, it always seemed as it was a way to mock the people and their culture. So who taught and mainstreamed homosexuality and pedophilia throughout the ages? I'm assuming it was the Jews that brought such depravity and corruption to a culture to watch it be destroyed from within.

Jewish historians yes. They've actually been caught manufacturing "art" depicting homosexuality. Of the 80,000 or so surviving period pieces only a half dozen or so could be interpreted as depicting homosexual acts, and they are all stretches

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Here I wil state truths many are unaware of unburdened by having to prove them..lol if you want to decry or support feel free. 

Lets kick it off right.

Homsexuality was not only not practiced by the Spartans it was abhorred and grounds for loss of rights of a citizen in all of Greece, even ultra liberal Athens

If you enter a mans posterior in general is that 'homosexuality' or is that something else? Is the act itself homosexuality or is it a little more detailed than that? I still have to research this myself but if they took citizens rights away from this but let their most advanced soldiers use it then they clearly saw something of a double edged sword of lethality to this practice.

The Spartans not only didn't practice  it but abhorred it.

So in school and "higher institutions" of so called learning they teach that Greeks started and readily accepted homosexuality and pedophilia within their society. It never rang to true to me when I heard that. To me, it always seemed as it was a way to mock the people and their culture. So who taught and mainstreamed homosexuality and pedophilia throughout the ages? I'm assuming it was the Jews that brought such depravity and corruption to a culture to watch it be destroyed from within.
Never thought it to be true as well. The “evidence” of this circulating around are some vases/pots/artwork depicting these vile acts. Doesn’t seem like enough. The worst form of inequality is making unequal things equal... This narrative has helped to put the great things of the greeks in the background, from ways of academia, military training, stoicism and so on.

Would I be right in saying - the modern greeks have basically no connection to the ancient greeks in the same way ancient egyptians have no genetic connection to the modern ones?

More like how judeans have no connection to jews, but yes

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Here I wil state truths many are unaware of unburdened by having to prove them..lol if you want to decry or support feel free. 

Lets kick it off right.

Homsexuality was not only not practiced by the Spartans it was abhorred and grounds for loss of rights of a citizen in all of Greece, even ultra liberal Athens

If you enter a mans posterior in general is that 'homosexuality' or is that something else? Is the act itself homosexuality or is it a little more detailed than that? I still have to research this myself but if they took citizens rights away from this but let their most advanced soldiers use it then they clearly saw something of a double edged sword of lethality to this practice.

The Spartans not only didn't practice  it but abhorred it.

So in school and "higher institutions" of so called learning they teach that Greeks started and readily accepted homosexuality and pedophilia within their society. It never rang to true to me when I heard that. To me, it always seemed as it was a way to mock the people and their culture. So who taught and mainstreamed homosexuality and pedophilia throughout the ages? I'm assuming it was the Jews that brought such depravity and corruption to a culture to watch it be destroyed from within.
Never thought it to be true as well. The “evidence” of this circulating around are some vases/pots/artwork depicting these vile acts. Doesn’t seem like enough. The worst form of inequality is making unequal things equal... This narrative has helped to put the great things of the greeks in the background, from ways of academia, military training, stoicism and so on.

Would I be right in saying - the modern greeks have basically no connection to the ancient greeks in the same way ancient egyptians have no genetic connection to the modern ones?

More like how judeans have no connection to jews, but yes

So who are the original Judeans the bible speaks of? What was their original blood line and who today are their closest relative genetically speaking?

I don't think it's the Palestinians because they are pretty Arabic looking and possibly have a very watered down African lineage within their genetic profile similar to many of the other Middle Easterners.
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Here I wil state truths many are unaware of unburdened by having to prove them..lol if you want to decry or support feel free. 

Lets kick it off right.

Homsexuality was not only not practiced by the Spartans it was abhorred and grounds for loss of rights of a citizen in all of Greece, even ultra liberal Athens

If you enter a mans posterior in general is that 'homosexuality' or is that something else? Is the act itself homosexuality or is it a little more detailed than that? I still have to research this myself but if they took citizens rights away from this but let their most advanced soldiers use it then they clearly saw something of a double edged sword of lethality to this practice.

The Spartans not only didn't practice  it but abhorred it.

So in school and "higher institutions" of so called learning they teach that Greeks started and readily accepted homosexuality and pedophilia within their society. It never rang to true to me when I heard that. To me, it always seemed as it was a way to mock the people and their culture. So who taught and mainstreamed homosexuality and pedophilia throughout the ages? I'm assuming it was the Jews that brought such depravity and corruption to a culture to watch it be destroyed from within.

I don't ever remember learning about that school, but in the last 15-20 years, it's been everywhere.

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Why wasn't Ms spears thrown from the freedom train

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You all know the sign of kish,the sign of koth and the  elder sign. You merely see them misapplied. Thiugh sometimes you see them ostensibly missapplied.

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You all know the sign of kish,the sign of koth and the  elder sign. You merely see them misapplied. Thiugh sometimes you see them ostensibly missapplied.
I’ve been reading Lovecraft for the past few days, most interesting...
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These most potent signs shall be so formed with thy left hand when thou employeth them in ye Rites

Ye first sign is that of Voor and in nature it be ye true symbol of ye Old Ones. Make ye thus whenever thou wouldst supplicate Those that ever waite beyond the Threshold.

Ye second sign is that of Kish and it breaketh down all barriers and openeth ye portals of ye Ultimate Planes.

In ye third place goeth ye Great Sign of Koth which sealeth ye Gates and guardeth ye pathways.

Ye forth sign is that of ye Elder Gods. It protecteth those who would evoke ye powers by night, and banish ye forces of menace and antagonism.

(Nota: Ye Elder Sign hath yet another form and when so enscribed upon ye grey stone of Mnar it serveth to hold back ye power of Ye Great Old Ones for all time.)
The sign of kish would be the most well known for us, didn’t the middle finger indicate Saturn? Interesting...
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