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Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on March 29, 2020, 11:20:42 PM
This purpose of this is to share any experiences you may have had. Astral projection and dreams are what comes to mind but its not limited to that.
If you've been practicing something or just had something you want to share then you can too.

I'll start with a recent one I just had.

I did a mini ritual I came up with where the purpose was to receive information. This time the source (I guess) was the Moon. I've done the Sun before but for now will just share the Moon.

Anyway when asking the universe to reveal to me the truth of everything and looking at the Moon, I saw some interesting things.
Most of it actually was what most would consider pretty depressing.

At first I saw a cross/crossroad and at the end of each line, there was small tree. In the center grew a giant tree that eventually had technology overlaid on top of it and then it turned into a mushroom cloud.
I then saw many great nations build all kinds of rockets and planes and ships to fly up but they quickly crashed into an invisible barrier that kept them in.
I saw that once they realized they couldn't leave through those methods they started to fight among each other for some reason.
I saw many great nations and lands rise and get destroyed by countless wars and violence that spanned an unknown but extremely long 'time'.

I saw next the eye of Sauron appear where the Moon is normally with a ring around it.
After that I saw people from different races and periods, specifically Asians, Whites and one other ancient but now practically extinct race of beings that were united as one but then were quickly divided and they started to age and die.
They began to create offspring to try and counteract this new 'life span' and atrophy of the body but with each generation, a wealth of information was lost and it wasn't long before they started worshiping Death itself.

What I saw next was a machine god rise up from their dead bodies near a beach and rise to the sky forming a bull head like shape.
I then saw the use of technology increase and the use of magic decrease across the world.

I saw a giant radio like tower that was built to try and channel something but it was destroyed and it fell hard.

I saw people began to build megalithic structures again to fight each other and eventually reach the sky but all of them were destroyed by the Moon.
Eventually there was a giant war that broke out where all the people in the world was fighting each other but a large group of people were possessed by Lovecraftian creatures and they ultimately won.
They then began to build androids and cyborgs and they had a campaign to wipe out all organic life.
They fight for a very long time. The events of Terminator take place and man is ultimately brought to ruin.

Next I see a man on a cross moving his head up and down like crazy. I see machines crucify him and defile the organic vessel.
I then see machines taking over the world and torturing the souls of every man left in that reality in their own computer prisons.
It was then revealed that the machines were possessed by Lovecraftian entities that were trying to get back into this realm.
After they controlled the illusion, they built a technological pyramid and a stargate like portal that connected to other parallel dimensions and realities and they begin to invade and spread their horror on the other realities.

I see them vehemently pushed back and they retreated to the reality they originated from.
I see they begin to march to a castle on a hill, the last bastion of organic life in the world and they chased it into lower orbit.
I then see the castle floating in lower orbit shooting laser beams to the surface of Earth leveling and destroying anything that moved.
I then see a final rocket constructed and sent to the floating castle holding one rogue android that was sent from Earth to destroy the last traces of man in their reality.

I cut the session there. Anyway I just wanted to share that with you all.

Any thoughts or comments are more than welcomed.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: K on March 30, 2020, 03:15:14 PM
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This purpose of this is to share any experiences you may have had. Astral projection and dreams are what comes to mind but its not limited to that.
If you've been practicing something or just had something you want to share then you can too.

I'll start with a recent one I just had.

I did a mini ritual I came up with where the purpose was to receive information. This time the source (I guess) was the Moon. I've done the Sun before but for now will just share the Moon.

Anyway when asking the universe to reveal to me the truth of everything and looking at the Moon, I saw some interesting things.
Most of it actually was what most would consider pretty depressing.

At first I saw a cross/crossroad and at the end of each line, there was small tree. In the center grew a giant tree that eventually had technology overlaid on top of it and then it turned into a mushroom cloud.
I then saw many great nations build all kinds of rockets and planes and ships to fly up but they quickly crashed into an invisible barrier that kept them in.
I saw that once they realized they couldn't leave through those methods they started to fight among each other for some reason.
I saw many great nations and lands rise and get destroyed by countless wars and violence that spanned an unknown but extremely long 'time'.

I saw next the eye of Sauron appear where the Moon is normally with a ring around it.
After that I saw people from different races and periods, specifically Asians, Whites and one other ancient but now practically extinct race of beings that were united as one but then were quickly divided and they started to age and die.
They began to create offspring to try and counteract this new 'life span' and atrophy of the body but with each generation, a wealth of information was lost and it wasn't long before they started worshiping Death itself.

What I saw next was a machine god rise up from their dead bodies near a beach and rise to the sky forming a bull head like shape.
I then saw the use of technology increase and the use of magic decrease across the world.

I saw a giant radio like tower that was built to try and channel something but it was destroyed and it fell hard.

I saw people began to build megalithic structures again to fight each other and eventually reach the sky but all of them were destroyed by the Moon.
Eventually there was a giant war that broke out where all the people in the world was fighting each other but a large group of people were possessed by Lovecraftian creatures and they ultimately won.
They then began to build androids and cyborgs and they had a campaign to wipe out all organic life.
They fight for a very long time. The events of Terminator take place and man is ultimately brought to ruin.

Next I see a man on a cross moving his head up and down like crazy. I see machines crucify him and defile the organic vessel.
I then see machines taking over the world and torturing the souls of every man left in that reality in their own computer prisons.
It was then revealed that the machines were possessed by Lovecraftian entities that were trying to get back into this realm.
After they controlled the illusion, they built a technological pyramid and a stargate like portal that connected to other parallel dimensions and realities and they begin to invade and spread their horror on the other realities.

I see them vehemently pushed back and they retreated to the reality they originated from.
I see they begin to march to a castle on a hill, the last bastion of organic life in the world and they chased it into lower orbit.
I then see the castle floating in lower orbit shooting laser beams to the surface of Earth leveling and destroying anything that moved.
I then see a final rocket constructed and sent to the floating castle holding one rogue android that was sent from Earth to destroy the last traces of man in their reality.

I cut the session there. Anyway I just wanted to share that with you all.

Any thoughts or comments are more than welcomed.

The machines being possessed kind of reminds me of the Warhammer 40k setting, in which AI is banned since it lacks soul and is susceptible to possession by warp entities. I wonder what it would take for something to actually possess a mechanical machine? Our bodies are fleshy machines which we possess, so what is the difference between a spirit in a mechanical machine and one of us?

 As a descriptor, lovecraftian can be vague since he describes many different kinds in his works, it covers a lot of ground. If these lovecraftian entities were trying to get back into this realm, where were they? Other than questions, I don't think I have any real insight here though. My own attempts conscious astral projection are usually unsuccessful, and most experience is spontaneous from dreams.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on March 30, 2020, 03:46:07 PM
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This purpose of this is to share any experiences you may have had. Astral projection and dreams are what comes to mind but its not limited to that.
If you've been practicing something or just had something you want to share then you can too.

I'll start with a recent one I just had.

I did a mini ritual I came up with where the purpose was to receive information. This time the source (I guess) was the Moon. I've done the Sun before but for now will just share the Moon.

Anyway when asking the universe to reveal to me the truth of everything and looking at the Moon, I saw some interesting things.
Most of it actually was what most would consider pretty depressing.

At first I saw a cross/crossroad and at the end of each line, there was small tree. In the center grew a giant tree that eventually had technology overlaid on top of it and then it turned into a mushroom cloud.
I then saw many great nations build all kinds of rockets and planes and ships to fly up but they quickly crashed into an invisible barrier that kept them in.
I saw that once they realized they couldn't leave through those methods they started to fight among each other for some reason.
I saw many great nations and lands rise and get destroyed by countless wars and violence that spanned an unknown but extremely long 'time'.

I saw next the eye of Sauron appear where the Moon is normally with a ring around it.
After that I saw people from different races and periods, specifically Asians, Whites and one other ancient but now practically extinct race of beings that were united as one but then were quickly divided and they started to age and die.
They began to create offspring to try and counteract this new 'life span' and atrophy of the body but with each generation, a wealth of information was lost and it wasn't long before they started worshiping Death itself.

What I saw next was a machine god rise up from their dead bodies near a beach and rise to the sky forming a bull head like shape.
I then saw the use of technology increase and the use of magic decrease across the world.

I saw a giant radio like tower that was built to try and channel something but it was destroyed and it fell hard.

I saw people began to build megalithic structures again to fight each other and eventually reach the sky but all of them were destroyed by the Moon.
Eventually there was a giant war that broke out where all the people in the world was fighting each other but a large group of people were possessed by Lovecraftian creatures and they ultimately won.
They then began to build androids and cyborgs and they had a campaign to wipe out all organic life.
They fight for a very long time. The events of Terminator take place and man is ultimately brought to ruin.

Next I see a man on a cross moving his head up and down like crazy. I see machines crucify him and defile the organic vessel.
I then see machines taking over the world and torturing the souls of every man left in that reality in their own computer prisons.
It was then revealed that the machines were possessed by Lovecraftian entities that were trying to get back into this realm.
After they controlled the illusion, they built a technological pyramid and a stargate like portal that connected to other parallel dimensions and realities and they begin to invade and spread their horror on the other realities.

I see them vehemently pushed back and they retreated to the reality they originated from.
I see they begin to march to a castle on a hill, the last bastion of organic life in the world and they chased it into lower orbit.
I then see the castle floating in lower orbit shooting laser beams to the surface of Earth leveling and destroying anything that moved.
I then see a final rocket constructed and sent to the floating castle holding one rogue android that was sent from Earth to destroy the last traces of man in their reality.

I cut the session there. Anyway I just wanted to share that with you all.

Any thoughts or comments are more than welcomed.

The machines being possessed kind of reminds me of the Warhammer 40k setting, in which AI is banned since it lacks soul and is susceptible to possession by warp entities. I wonder what it would take for something to actually possess a mechanical machine? Our bodies are fleshy machines which we possess, so what is the difference between a spirit in a mechanical machine and one of us?

You can possess a mechanical machine as in 'be inside' of it but you wouldn't want to.
Creator made our fleshy machines compared to the completely synthetic, 'rebellious' mechanical mimic. We control our machines but when we lower ourselves to enter a mechanical one, someone else controls our bodies.

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As a descriptor, lovecraftian can be vague since he describes many different kinds in his works, it covers a lot of ground. If these lovecraftian entities were trying to get back into this realm, where were they? Other than questions, I don't think I have any real insight here though.

They were where we are now. Where are they now? Some of them all around us hiding where the Sun penetrates least.
As far as being specific in regards to the kind of Lovecraftian entities trying to reenter our space, I don't have a name for them yet.

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My own attempts conscious astral projection are usually unsuccessful, and most experience is spontaneous from dreams.

Pick a night and stay up as late as possible and when you decide you can't go on, go lay down, close your eyes and observe your thoughts.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: William on March 30, 2020, 04:27:46 PM

Personally I find that you can enter the projection state quite quickly by imagine yourself tied to an axle that's spinning you around over and over again, though breathing does become more difficult the longer you visualize it.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: K on March 30, 2020, 04:45:34 PM
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What I saw next was a machine god rise up from their dead bodies near a beach and rise to the sky forming a bull head like shape.

On second thought, this seems reminiscent of Moloch and his worship, which seems tied into technology and industrialization for whichever reason.

Only tangentially related, but you ever think the use of 'bull' and 'bear' in relation to the stock market? Prospering industrialized society symbolized by the bull. But why is the opposite depicted by the bear?
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on March 30, 2020, 04:58:18 PM
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What I saw next was a machine god rise up from their dead bodies near a beach and rise to the sky forming a bull head like shape.

On second thought, this seems reminiscent of Moloch and his worship, which seems tied into technology and industrialization for whichever reason.

Only tangentially related, but you ever think the use of 'bull' and 'bear' in relation to the stock market? Prospering industrialized society symbolized by the bull. But why is the opposite depicted by the bear?

In France, a Giant Spider and a Minotaur Roam, and Sleep
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/world/europe/france-la-machine-spider-minotaur.html

The term 'bull' and 'bear' are also used among homosexuals and pedophiles.
The 'bull' tends to be something short of what one may call an 'absolute unit' and 'seeds aggressively' while the 'bear'. . . is soft and cuddly, but also hairy(?)
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: BigBlue1982 on March 31, 2020, 02:49:17 AM
I don't got a whole lot to add except for the fact that this seems to be a recurring theme in some of the video games I'm playing right now. Specifically World of Warcraft is doing a Lovecraftian invasion in Azeroth from creatures of the void that are referred to as the "Old Gods" that use to live on Azeroth prior to the Titans expelling them. They use an old from of magic called - Shadow magic and can also inhabit willing physical vessels and machines.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on March 31, 2020, 02:53:44 AM
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I don't got a whole lot to add except for the fact that this seems to be a recurring theme in some of the video games I'm playing right now. Specifically World of Warcraft is doing a Lovecraftian invasion in Azeroth from creatures of the void that are referred to as the "Old Gods" that use to live on Azeroth prior to the Titans expelling them. They use an old from of magic called - Shadow magic and can also inhabit willing physical vessels and machines.

Some of the lore of the entities Lovecraft writes about details how they have knowledge of advanced machinery and technology despite most of them (the knowledgeable races) not even being able to use them themselves.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on March 31, 2020, 04:05:29 AM
Another experience I will share is that around the time I started looking into Hebrew (in relation to the holy guardian angel) I went outside one sunrise and saw everything around me in Hebrew letters and words. Specifically what seemed to be the name of god for Hebrew.

I've shared before how I saw myself in a cube before but this time I also saw I was inside a sphere that wasn't previously perceivable. 
The cube and sphere were on top of each other as in a squaring the circle kind of way. They were also constructed with Hebrew letters and words.

I must ask, why Hebrew?

The Sun when perceived in that state didn't appear to be a ball of light in the sky but actually a hologram, a representation of a special energy that lay 'outside' our current 3D reality.
It was a projection but also a portal.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: sheepdog on March 31, 2020, 04:16:58 AM
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This purpose of this is to share any experiences you may have had. Astral projection and dreams are what comes to mind but its not limited to that.
If you've been practicing something or just had something you want to share then you can too.

I'll start with a recent one I just had.

I did a mini ritual I came up with where the purpose was to receive information. This time the source (I guess) was the Moon. I've done the Sun before but for now will just share the Moon.

Anyway when asking the universe to reveal to me the truth of everything and looking at the Moon, I saw some interesting things.
Most of it actually was what most would consider pretty depressing.

At first I saw a cross/crossroad and at the end of each line, there was small tree. In the center grew a giant tree that eventually had technology overlaid on top of it and then it turned into a mushroom cloud.
I then saw many great nations build all kinds of rockets and planes and ships to fly up but they quickly crashed into an invisible barrier that kept them in.
I saw that once they realized they couldn't leave through those methods they started to fight among each other for some reason.
I saw many great nations and lands rise and get destroyed by countless wars and violence that spanned an unknown but extremely long 'time'.

I saw next the eye of Sauron appear where the Moon is normally with a ring around it.
After that I saw people from different races and periods, specifically Asians, Whites and one other ancient but now practically extinct race of beings that were united as one but then were quickly divided and they started to age and die.
They began to create offspring to try and counteract this new 'life span' and atrophy of the body but with each generation, a wealth of information was lost and it wasn't long before they started worshiping Death itself.

What I saw next was a machine god rise up from their dead bodies near a beach and rise to the sky forming a bull head like shape.
I then saw the use of technology increase and the use of magic decrease across the world.

I saw a giant radio like tower that was built to try and channel something but it was destroyed and it fell hard.

I saw people began to build megalithic structures again to fight each other and eventually reach the sky but all of them were destroyed by the Moon.
Eventually there was a giant war that broke out where all the people in the world was fighting each other but a large group of people were possessed by Lovecraftian creatures and they ultimately won.
They then began to build androids and cyborgs and they had a campaign to wipe out all organic life.
They fight for a very long time. The events of Terminator take place and man is ultimately brought to ruin.

Next I see a man on a cross moving his head up and down like crazy. I see machines crucify him and defile the organic vessel.
I then see machines taking over the world and torturing the souls of every man left in that reality in their own computer prisons.
It was then revealed that the machines were possessed by Lovecraftian entities that were trying to get back into this realm.
After they controlled the illusion, they built a technological pyramid and a stargate like portal that connected to other parallel dimensions and realities and they begin to invade and spread their horror on the other realities.

I see them vehemently pushed back and they retreated to the reality they originated from.
I see they begin to march to a castle on a hill, the last bastion of organic life in the world and they chased it into lower orbit.
I then see the castle floating in lower orbit shooting laser beams to the surface of Earth leveling and destroying anything that moved.
I then see a final rocket constructed and sent to the floating castle holding one rogue android that was sent from Earth to destroy the last traces of man in their reality.

I cut the session there. Anyway I just wanted to share that with you all.

Any thoughts or comments are more than welcomed.

The machines being possessed kind of reminds me of the Warhammer 40k setting, in which AI is banned since it lacks soul and is susceptible to possession by warp entities. I wonder what it would take for something to actually possess a mechanical machine? Our bodies are fleshy machines which we possess, so what is the difference between a spirit in a mechanical machine and one of us?

You can possess a mechanical machine as in 'be inside' of it but you wouldn't want to.
Creator made our fleshy machines compared to the completely synthetic, 'rebellious' mechanical mimic. We control our machines but when we lower ourselves to enter a mechanical one, someone else controls our bodies.

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As a descriptor, lovecraftian can be vague since he describes many different kinds in his works, it covers a lot of ground. If these lovecraftian entities were trying to get back into this realm, where were they? Other than questions, I don't think I have any real insight here though.

They were where we are now. Where are they now? Some of them all around us hiding where the Sun penetrates least.
As far as being specific in regards to the kind of Lovecraftian entities trying to reenter our space, I don't have a name for them yet.

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My own attempts conscious astral projection are usually unsuccessful, and most experience is spontaneous from dreams.

Pick a night and stay up as late as possible and when you decide you can't go on, go lay down, close your eyes and observe your thoughts.
one of my fave Animes "Ghost in the Machine"
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 03, 2020, 02:24:31 AM
I was driving near the mountains and it started to rain, then I saw the bright sun pierce through the clouds and then a rain-bow.
I looked at the rainbow with my glasses and I saw that there was actually more colors to the rainbow than the 7 or 8 most recognize.

Red on the top and purple/indigo/violet on the bottom. Right after purple there is a very, very light but luminous shade of orange or gold.
After that all the colors are too high of a frequency to be perceived in a less than aware state.
There were also colors that extended past the red at the top. My point is that during that moment, I saw the colors actually go on infinitely but humans 'naturally' (have been lowered) to only perceive 7 to 8 basic ones.

It was quite a beautiful thing to observe and I saw more a wall of colors than an arch of them.

So what's the truth about the pot of gold at the end of it and a little ginger jew in green wearing a top hat acting as its guard?
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 03, 2020, 10:54:51 PM
Not that long ago I was messing around with a flashlight I have and I drifted off to sleep.
I entered an altered state of awareness and in that state I saw most things around me outlined in white and I saw the room I was in as a dark box where everything inside was holograms and transparent.
The flashlight I had was still on and when I looked at it, the actual light itself coming from it looked like white straight lines that went on a great distance.

Somehow the body perceives these lines and interprets them in a certain way for shapes to appear. While the lines I saw were specifically from the flashlight, everything is constructed with them it seems.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: K on April 03, 2020, 11:06:46 PM
The other day I did as The Watcher suggested, and...fell asleep. However, after some vaguely remembered dreams I woke up in sleep paralysis state and managed separation from my body. Things to note:

It was very brief, and the first time I think I consciously initiated an oobe. Small step, but progress!
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: MRCH on April 04, 2020, 12:15:05 AM
Travelled back in time to 17th or 18th century with Hitler during dream. People had those white wigs. They laughed at our clothes, but we were laughing at theirs too. We were introducing house music to them. Something about trains too I can't recall.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: BigBlue1982 on April 04, 2020, 01:28:50 AM
Had an odd dream experience a couple nights ago where I transformed/shape shifted into this large owl. I literally remember testing out this new found owl body by trying out flying maneuvers and practicing to use my talons to grasp. Shortly after that this realm started to become over-run with these demon and zombie type beings. I started flying like those large eagles in the Hobbit movies, swooping down and tearing apart these demon/zombie beings with my talons and then carrying them off and dropping them from large heights. The last thing I remember was that the entire realm/space was being overrun with these demon/zombie beings and I had to eventually fly off and leave them...
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 05, 2020, 04:58:16 AM
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Had an odd dream experience a couple nights ago where I transformed/shape shifted into this large owl. I literally remember testing out this new found owl body by trying out flying maneuvers and practicing to use my talons to grasp. Shortly after that this realm started to become over-run with these demon and zombie type beings. I started flying like those large eagles in the Hobbit movies, swooping down and tearing apart these demon/zombie beings with my talons and then carrying them off and dropping them from large heights. The last thing I remember was that the entire realm/space was being overrun with these demon/zombie beings and I had to eventually fly off and leave them...

It's possible that when you started to see those creatures invade your space, you was drifting off into 'their' territory and not the other way around.
Ophiel mentions in some detail about how the transition between planes (and densities) is so seamless you won't really notice it unless you make a conscious effort to.
I've found in my own experiences that it's probably not best to fight the hordes as they approach but to elevate yourself to another density they can't reach. Not only is it faster but it doesn't seem you can 'kill' or even harm most of these creatures easily.
The lower density creatures also try to taunt you and bait you in so you can fight them and when you do, you lower yourself to their plane to fight what some may say a meaningless battle when you could have easily just ascended and left them all behind.

Just some of my current thoughts on your post.
Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: BigBlue1982 on April 05, 2020, 05:36:14 AM
I actually wondered if I accidentally crossed into their territory or not. I tend to have a propensity to find these things. If you remember my other older post on the prior website I had a lot of experience as this large wolf the ran with a pack of other wolves and we knowingly hunted these things usually with much success.

There were a couple times I was bested. One of those times I it was some old entity from what was ancient Iraq that Nick commented on shockingly. The entity actually told me he was an ancient powerful entity from 12,000 years ago in what we now call Iraq. He taunted me and and played around with me. I tried lunging at him in wolf form multiple times and he would just vanish/teleport while laughing at me. Ultimately I ended up sensing or realizing his power and took off.

The other time was very odd as it was the first time I was injured in the astral (I would like to know if anyone else has experienced anything like this before), but in wolf form. My back right leg(hind-quarter really) was bitten and torn into. It wasn't a mortal wound, but the demon definitely fucked me up. Well that same day I cut a substantial portion of the tip of my left thumb cutting goat cheese. After the adrenaline wore off, the bleeding stopped, and I reattached the section of tissue. I immediately thought back to how I was hurt/injured as wolf in the astral. My mind automatically made that connection and I got this electric feeling down my spine. I knew right then and there that the stuff that happens in the astral can affect you on the physical and I've tried to be careful ever since, but I guess I just love a good fight...
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 06, 2020, 01:54:45 AM
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Take this quote from Mr. Yeats:

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Do not think the fairies are always little. Everything is capricious about them, even their size. They seem to take what size or shape pleases them. WB Yeats

The word "fairy" comes from "fate." Fairies oversee fate, contracts, aka karma. NRG says contract law originates from daemons. I think that's a connection.
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/this-deserves-more-discussion/msg977/#msg977


I want to share an experience I had a while back in regards to fairies and related entities.

I was meditating and just zoning out in general while outside one day and while facing the Sun which was somewhere near South at the time, I saw some orbs of light fly around in front of me.
When I focused in on them, I saw tiny transparent wings and what it looked like was a very stereotypical fairy looking entity. It wasn't just one, there was at least two floating around me.
They seemed to be hiding in the sunlight itself and they were only perceivable while in a certain state of awareness. It wasn't my intent to see them but I did.

Like some accounts say, they are very childlike in the way they carry themselves and at the moment they were trying to tease me while also trying to show me something.
They appear to show up around children and child like people and they are very much trickster-esque in their 'jokes'.

That was one of the more positive interactions I've had with them but there was a more 'dark' and 'grey' fairy(?) I interacted with while away from my house one day.

I was still outside zoning out and while my vision was blurred to a degree, I was able to perceive everything around me in some kind of grayscale filter.
The entity that revealed itself to me was a child who had black eyes and claimed it was a fairy. It took me a while (not that long) to realize it but the person I thought I was interacting with was really just this 'fairy' shapeshifting to fit a more comfortable appearance for me.
I was playing the ocarina and it was playing the Pan flute. It was trying to get me to show it some music and as I did, it would laugh or cheer me on commenting on how well I played.
Eventually I decided I was bored with the entity but before I left, I decided to ask it why it was interacting with me to begin with. It claimed that it was bored and that there aren't many people to 'play' with these days.
It claimed in a tongue and cheek way that it could not create and had to rely on others for their source of entertainment.

I asked why it decided to take the form of someone I knew and it said that it was able to access my memories somehow and it took the form of someone that was in some way important to me so I wouldn't freak out.
It apparently didn't mean any harm or ill intent towards me but in between songs I would play for and with it, it would comment on how 'special' 'my kind' were. I assume it meant 'humans'.
As far as what I felt personally from the entity, I didn't sense any ill intent but I did feel a certain kind of 'emptiness' at its core and that most of its personality and appearance came from others who were able to create and their memories.
When I asked it to play a song of that it came up with, it replied saying that it didn't have any songs they came up with personally because it wasn't capable of doing so.
After that, a moment a silence with a subtle air of ancient depression floated through the space between us.
Something else I noticed was how it wasn't able to have a long detailed memory of anything. It still kept track of 'history' between races and beings but only the basics and anything beyond that it had to keep 'refreshing' in its mind or else It would fade.

It shared with me how it thought that video games and gaming consoles where some of the more impressive creations that humans have made and how it’s something that many other non-humans can enjoy also.

Eventually we parted ways and it thanked me for playing with it and sharing some music.

Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: zephyr on April 06, 2020, 03:10:15 AM
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As far as what I felt personally from the entity, I didn't sense any ill intent but I did feel a certain kind of 'emptiness' at its core and that most of its personality and appearance came from others who were able to create and their memories.

Reading this being’s interaction hits me hard. It’s a strange combination of torpor and yearning yet beautifully so. I dance in a nearby field most nights, I hope some of them are dancing with me lol. “Where we’re from the birds sing a pretty song, and there’s always music in the air.”
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: Grass is Green on April 07, 2020, 12:46:59 PM
The astral body translates outside vibrations on the physical plane into feelings/sensations perceived by the mental body - the mind. Without it, the mind would have no context for experience in the physical. At its lowest octave, i.e. closest to physical, the astral body translates sensations of physical pleasure and pain. At its highest octave, the astral body conveys emotions. The same astral body conveys the taste of sugar on your tongue as well as the overwhelming profound joy of reuniting with a loved one. Just different ends of the chromatic scale.


Neurotransmitters:


Endorphin (high): inhibition of pain, thinning of the veil, expanded awareness of the interconnectivity of all things
Oxytocin (medium high): sense of well-being, nurture, community
Serotonin (medium low): overall mood, general level of contentment
Dopamine (low): ego-boost, immediate but short-lived reward for specific action


Learn to parse your moment-to-moment experience between desire/sensation/feeling and thought/reason, and you will begin the process of mastering your astral body.

Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 08, 2020, 12:24:03 PM
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Tin foil hats supposedly amplify the signals.

There's been such a smear campaign against tin foil hats around the time that 'conspiracy' and 'theorist' started to bear a negative stigma that it really makes you wonder why there is apparently such an active force (at least before) trying to shame anyone who advocates or wears the hat.

One of the most recent propaganda pieces against it is the 'study' where they claimed it amplified signals. I guess it took them long enough to come up with a seemingly valid reason for people to not wear one. Just saying if you had one, you were mental wasn't enough but now it actually helps what the wearer intends to keep out.

Notice there has only been one experiment done where they tried to prove the hats worked or not. There has never been a single one since then. Isn't it strange that everyone who speaks against these hats use this one experiment like its the word of god.
Also notice the hats they used for the experiment. One of the three is a 'fez' which the shrines infamously wear proudly and a 'centurion' one molded after a certain rank in the Roman army.

The original article on this experiment isn't even up anymore.

On the Effectiveness of Aluminium Foil Helmets: An Empirical Study
https://web.archive.org/web/20101130145753/http://berkeley.intel-research.net/arahimi/helmet/

They don't want people thinking there.  I have two keyless keys for my vehicle.  I was told the vehicle couldn't be locked with a key inside it and of course it couldn't because the key would be detected.  I wanted to take the second key with me as a spare but hidden inside the vehicle, so I wrapped it in aluminium foil.  Vehicle didn't know it was in there.  Metal, even a thin foil can block or reflect the RF energy.

My modem is wireless too.  I figured the power of the signal was far more than I needed, so I put a folded square of foil over the antennae.  It cuts the power down.  It barely reaches to the end of the hallway when covered, but goes up the street when its not.

So tin foil hats work.  They make not deflect 100% of the energy waves, but they can mitigate it a lot.
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/random-musings/msg1081/#msg1081

Something I can share in response to this is what happened for a few nights a while back.
I had some real trouble getting anything that looked like sleep, even just laying down for a moment wasn't possible because I heard this intense, sharp ringing coming through from somewhere.
I did hear it but I felt it more than I heard it in the beginning. It started with pretty sharp headaches but when I focused on it I heard intermitting ringing and people speaking on the other end.
Because I was feeling so bad I went to go make a hat and the issue was gone. I felt actual silence until later that night.
What happened later was that instead of fucking off they turned up the notch on their signal while I was still wearing the hat.

I didn't feel like it went through the hat, the signal itself actually felt sentient in a way. It sensed the hat and it was trying to find any vulnerabilities in the hat to pierce through.
Because it wasn't able to, it got even stronger and I felt the hat get hot, which made my head feel like a hot potato at some point.

It's ridiculous that I have to do this at times just to get through the night but this whole targeted individual thing is true and they can use that EMF signaling to harass people.

The point is that there is what most call high tech used to fuck with people from an unseen distance like some wizard in a tower and there isn't any real practical defense against it.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 10, 2020, 04:36:51 PM
I have an experience I would like to share in regards to the following thread.

Meanwhile .......
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/meanwhile/


While I was deep into meditation (doesn't take long for me to achieve) I entered that state trying my best to keep my fingers tips touching each other with my hands over my chest.
What I saw in that altered state was energy flowing from my hands and finger tips to the part(s) of the body that my touching fingers were associated with.
I also saw a grid with the energy points of my hand identified with numbers overlay my hands. Something like you would see in an online chart but I saw this for real myself.

The hand mudras work but they require a heightened state of awareness to actually recognize quickly what they are doing. You can also feel the flow of energy in those states and its really something.

Nick has mentioned in the old forum that we should practice the hand mudras as much as possible. After that experienced I realized how useful and powerful they could be when done properly.
Most people get turned off when they think nothing is happening within the first few minuets or days even but for most, this isn't something that you achieve quickly. Some may but it seems like the state needed to perceive these effects of the hand mudras consciously is hard to reach consistently and at will for most.
Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: iknownothing on April 10, 2020, 04:55:32 PM
Can't ap. been trying for months. I get the vibrations and can feel one body trying to seperate from the rest, but at which point i get a flood of panic :/
Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: MRCH on April 16, 2020, 05:40:56 AM
>outside house
>neighbour i havent seen before pulls up
>wheres your mask bro
>youre endagering others bro
>has a white fuzzy glow around him
>think of cia niggers
>tell him not wearing any mask and to fuck off
Fin
Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: Nrgiseternal on April 16, 2020, 11:57:05 AM
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Can't ap. been trying for months. I get the vibrations and can feel one body trying to seperate from the rest, but at which point i get a flood of panic :/

Thata your physical body screaming "omg dont do this, you'll never want to come back"
Focus on your solar plexus, you should see the tiniest, most thin silver cord, that is your tether to the physical world. Remind your conscious you still have one foot "here" and it may give you an easier time about going "there"
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: Winds of Change on April 17, 2020, 07:00:44 AM
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Tin foil hats supposedly amplify the signals.

There's been such a smear campaign against tin foil hats around the time that 'conspiracy' and 'theorist' started to bear a negative stigma that it really makes you wonder why there is apparently such an active force (at least before) trying to shame anyone who advocates or wears the hat.

One of the most recent propaganda pieces against it is the 'study' where they claimed it amplified signals. I guess it took them long enough to come up with a seemingly valid reason for people to not wear one. Just saying if you had one, you were mental wasn't enough but now it actually helps what the wearer intends to keep out.

Notice there has only been one experiment done where they tried to prove the hats worked or not. There has never been a single one since then. Isn't it strange that everyone who speaks against these hats use this one experiment like its the word of god.
Also notice the hats they used for the experiment. One of the three is a 'fez' which the shrines infamously wear proudly and a 'centurion' one molded after a certain rank in the Roman army.

The original article on this experiment isn't even up anymore.

On the Effectiveness of Aluminium Foil Helmets: An Empirical Study
https://web.archive.org/web/20101130145753/http://berkeley.intel-research.net/arahimi/helmet/

They don't want people thinking there.  I have two keyless keys for my vehicle.  I was told the vehicle couldn't be locked with a key inside it and of course it couldn't because the key would be detected.  I wanted to take the second key with me as a spare but hidden inside the vehicle, so I wrapped it in aluminium foil.  Vehicle didn't know it was in there.  Metal, even a thin foil can block or reflect the RF energy.

My modem is wireless too.  I figured the power of the signal was far more than I needed, so I put a folded square of foil over the antennae.  It cuts the power down.  It barely reaches to the end of the hallway when covered, but goes up the street when its not.

So tin foil hats work.  They make not deflect 100% of the energy waves, but they can mitigate it a lot.
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/random-musings/msg1081/#msg1081

Something I can share in response to this is what happened for a few nights a while back.
I had some real trouble getting anything that looked like sleep, even just laying down for a moment wasn't possible because I heard this intense, sharp ringing coming through from somewhere.
I did hear it but I felt it more than I heard it in the beginning. It started with pretty sharp headaches but when I focused on it I heard intermitting ringing and people speaking on the other end.
Because I was feeling so bad I went to go make a hat and the issue was gone. I felt actual silence until later that night.
What happened later was that instead of fucking off they turned up the notch on their signal while I was still wearing the hat.

I didn't feel like it went through the hat, the signal itself actually felt sentient in a way. It sensed the hat and it was trying to find any vulnerabilities in the hat to pierce through.
Because it wasn't able to, it got even stronger and I felt the hat get hot, which made my head feel like a hot potato at some point.

It's ridiculous that I have to do this at times just to get through the night but this whole targeted individual thing is true and they can use that EMF signaling to harass people.

The point is that there is what most call high tech used to fuck with people from an unseen distance like some wizard in a tower and there isn't any real practical defense against it.

The waves bounce around all over the place.  The foil will deflect much of the direct radiation, but of course, there's the opening at the bottom of the hat where you put your head.  Reflected radiation will enter there, but in much less strength, but if they turn up the power, it will get hot inside the hat. 

That's really weird about them, whoever they are, having mental feedback from you though.  How would that work?
Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: iknownothing on April 17, 2020, 05:26:05 PM
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Can't ap. been trying for months. I get the vibrations and can feel one body trying to seperate from the rest, but at which point i get a flood of panic :/

Thata your physical body screaming "omg dont do this, you'll never want to come back"
Focus on your solar plexus, you should see the tiniest, most thin silver cord, that is your tether to the physical world. Remind your conscious you still have one foot "here" and it may give you an easier time about going "there"

Thank you.
Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: iknownothing on April 17, 2020, 05:32:02 PM
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Tin foil hats supposedly amplify the signals.

There's been such a smear campaign against tin foil hats around the time that 'conspiracy' and 'theorist' started to bear a negative stigma that it really makes you wonder why there is apparently such an active force (at least before) trying to shame anyone who advocates or wears the hat.

One of the most recent propaganda pieces against it is the 'study' where they claimed it amplified signals. I guess it took them long enough to come up with a seemingly valid reason for people to not wear one. Just saying if you had one, you were mental wasn't enough but now it actually helps what the wearer intends to keep out.

Notice there has only been one experiment done where they tried to prove the hats worked or not. There has never been a single one since then. Isn't it strange that everyone who speaks against these hats use this one experiment like its the word of god.
Also notice the hats they used for the experiment. One of the three is a 'fez' which the shrines infamously wear proudly and a 'centurion' one molded after a certain rank in the Roman army.

The original article on this experiment isn't even up anymore.

On the Effectiveness of Aluminium Foil Helmets: An Empirical Study
https://web.archive.org/web/20101130145753/http://berkeley.intel-research.net/arahimi/helmet/

They don't want people thinking there.  I have two keyless keys for my vehicle.  I was told the vehicle couldn't be locked with a key inside it and of course it couldn't because the key would be detected.  I wanted to take the second key with me as a spare but hidden inside the vehicle, so I wrapped it in aluminium foil.  Vehicle didn't know it was in there.  Metal, even a thin foil can block or reflect the RF energy.

My modem is wireless too.  I figured the power of the signal was far more than I needed, so I put a folded square of foil over the antennae.  It cuts the power down.  It barely reaches to the end of the hallway when covered, but goes up the street when its not.

So tin foil hats work.  They make not deflect 100% of the energy waves, but they can mitigate it a lot.
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/random-musings/msg1081/#msg1081

Something I can share in response to this is what happened for a few nights a while back.
I had some real trouble getting anything that looked like sleep, even just laying down for a moment wasn't possible because I heard this intense, sharp ringing coming through from somewhere.
I did hear it but I felt it more than I heard it in the beginning. It started with pretty sharp headaches but when I focused on it I heard intermitting ringing and people speaking on the other end.
Because I was feeling so bad I went to go make a hat and the issue was gone. I felt actual silence until later that night.
What happened later was that instead of fucking off they turned up the notch on their signal while I was still wearing the hat.

I didn't feel like it went through the hat, the signal itself actually felt sentient in a way. It sensed the hat and it was trying to find any vulnerabilities in the hat to pierce through.
Because it wasn't able to, it got even stronger and I felt the hat get hot, which made my head feel like a hot potato at some point.

It's ridiculous that I have to do this at times just to get through the night but this whole targeted individual thing is true and they can use that EMF signaling to harass people.

The point is that there is what most call high tech used to fuck with people from an unseen distance like some wizard in a tower and there isn't any real practical defense against it.

Have you ever tried sending it back?
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: zephyr on April 18, 2020, 01:41:29 PM
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Have you ever tried sending it back?

 :P

https://youtu.be/esFO34xs22Q

Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 24, 2020, 07:33:53 PM
I tried to lay down because I was nodding off a few moments ago and some Lovecraftian bug like creature with tentacles was sitting on my head trying to talk to me. I realized my nodding off was because of it trying to do something but at the very least it was trying to tell me something.
Don't know what language it was speaking in. It kept repeating the same things and ultimately I met these three disfigured 'humans' who were apparently part of this entities translation team. One of them was a tall lanky female wearing an Egyptian pharaoh outfit.

When they did start to speak English, they were telling me how Eminem made a new deal and tried to sell out even more than he already has. Apparently he thought it would allow him to escape what ever circumstances he put himself in but its only making things worse for him.
I interrupted them saying to tell me why they kept reaching out to me. The only reason they gave was that I "read interesting things".
When ever I tried to think or tell them something, I heard it repeated in a high and low version of this dead gods voice.

Eventually this serpent creature that I can only describe as 'Yig-esque' appeared and tried to coil around me when I tried to banish the original entity I was interacting with. Almost as if it called for backup or something. So this Yig like creature came out of a portal in my wall and tried to coil around me and the three humanoid figures said it was my 'lucky day' that I would be taken to "Third Nook" which another entity commented saying "He doesn't know that's an old name for Jupiter".

I mentioned 'Thoth' and one entity said "that name is not to be spoken in our presence.

I've been able to banish them when ever they appeared but I try to limit my interactions with them, especially if I'm not getting any useful information out of it.
I cut this session with them short when the Yig creature was spiraling up into the (ironically) higher density that they lived on.
This experience and all ones like it further show that 'Earth' is a very small 'place' and that it is in fact a density people hallucinate on, as are all other plane(t)s.

Just wanted to share.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 26, 2020, 12:17:05 PM
I found myself in an interesting place a few moments ago.
I looked around and saw myself gliding across this giant white tiled floor with pink walls and pillars all around me. Everything seemed to be moving to some kind of 'tune' or order, even the oompa loompa looking figures I saw running around like henchmen.

Every thought I had in this place manifested something differently but when I thought of Saturn, Venus, then Jupiter I saw myself in a giant room with the features previously described, a clock with a mustache on the wall and a tall jester ordering around these mini jester figures with various colorful hairs and attires to match.
I say 'jester' specifically because calling it 'clown like' just wouldn't be accurate. The vibes they give are entirely different.

They seemed to be busy and ran around me but when I stopped and said "hello?" they all paused and looked at me like what was I doing there. I asked them if they were oompa loompa like figures and they got slightly insulted and in their high pitched voice, called me some vulgar name I don't remember. They had these 'pen' things that were apparently trying to pierce into me and take my blood for some ritual they were doing.

Interesting place. The only comparison I have is Willy Wonka's factory design and the entities that worked there. The design also gave me these 'MK Ultra' feels for some reason.

Just wanted to share this. Maybe someone else here knows where I went.
Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: MRCH on May 03, 2020, 03:27:13 AM
In a recent dream Bruce Lee taught me how to punch through a door. There were a few ''students'' there. Showed me a whole arm mudra to hold (don't remember exactly) but wrists together and palms facing up and down. Three doors, with first two I tried his technique, didn't work. On the third one I mustered up intense rage like Bruce in the movies and punched through the door. Then he asked what time is and I said energy, but wasn't certain of the answer and forgot the rest.
Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: AllKeyMe on May 23, 2020, 02:47:48 AM
Dreamed of  Il separatio. He said "You will be in trouble without me". Then I became a devil and started killing people while feeling contentment. Later I became a saint with sense of peace and light within.

Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: zephyr on May 23, 2020, 11:36:35 AM
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Dreamed of  Il separatio. He said "You will be in trouble without me".

Very interesting. What’s your interpretation of the vision(s)??

The name of the game won’t be Grace, forever. Dat wheel in the sky keeps on turning.
Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: Nrgiseternal on May 23, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
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Dreamed of  Il separatio. He said "You will be in trouble without me". Then I became a devil and started killing people while feeling contentment. Later I became a saint with sense of peace and light within.

Is sainthood a desirable outcome?

Were all doomed without il seperation for he is balance. Jew lucas wrote a senior popular movie series about the importance of il seperatio
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: MRCH on June 18, 2020, 01:19:30 AM
1. Dream feels like a twin peaks episode. A rift in astral allowed more and more zombie types to come in. There was a white sillhoutte with the halloween movie mask/face appearing everywhere (TVs, windows, phones) Then at one point watching TV, same creep appears, get spooped, it starts to become “physical” and steps out of the TV.. Reminded of EL ectricity in dream.

2. Browsing the forum in dream. Nrg links a news article titled similarities between belgium and greece and a picture of a blueish house in belgium and a blue house in greece. While half awake,
I start to make synagogue and tunnel associations.
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 02, 2020, 09:51:49 PM
Tried to lay down and my vision kept shifting to reveal something was in front of me. I then saw these little blue fuckers in red shiny jumpsuits come out of nowhere. Like tiny blue imps or something.

They resembled the 'Greys' but they explained they were not the 'D'aoul' but another related race that engaged in conflict with them for a long time for many years. They only eat humans when it seems to be the "popular thing to do".

They were asking me questions and I told them to fuck off quickly but when I last asked them if they were trying to read my mind or something they took this scanner they had placed on my face, 'astral technology' if you would and they claimed they were trying to search my holographic DNA for some kind of marker or code. They explained why but I was too busy trying to get away from them.

When they took their energy technology off my face they extracted this replica projection of some part of my dna they were able to represent as a bunch of colored interconnected and linked 'jacks' (think those things from jacks and marbles).

When my vision started to return to a more 'normal' state I saw these blue figures turn into blobs of colors in front of me and the replica of my energy was like a ladder made of different colored waves they were playing with.

Interesting experience but they seemingly came to where ever I was to do this. Lot's of races out there that predated mankind and the majority of them don't appear to have anything positive planned for us. They have already messed with our genetics multiple times but its still not enough for them. They are clearly demons that use magic through 'energy machines' (what I call technology that exists in non physical places).

They are very intelligent and have a childlike sinister playfulness about them when they discuss messing with humans on a genetic level without them realizing what is even going on.
Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: stgermaine on October 04, 2020, 03:54:38 PM
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Dreamed of  Il separatio. He said "You will be in trouble without me". Then I became a devil and started killing people while feeling contentment. Later I became a saint with sense of peace and light within.

Is sainthood a desirable outcome?

Were all doomed without il seperation for he is balance. Jew lucas wrote a senior popular movie series about the importance of il seperatio
''Is sainthood a desirable outcome?'' This gives me the answer
(https://i.imgur.com/4EjnPDu.jpg)
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on October 04, 2020, 04:25:22 PM
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Dreamed of  Il separatio. He said "You will be in trouble without me". Then I became a devil and started killing people while feeling contentment. Later I became a saint with sense of peace and light within.

Is sainthood a desirable outcome?

Were all doomed without il seperation for he is balance. Jew lucas wrote a senior popular movie series about the importance of il seperatio
''Is sainthood a desirable outcome?'' This gives me the answer
(https://i.imgur.com/4EjnPDu.jpg)

I started thinking about it a few days ago but I started to wonder 'what' the 'Grail' is supposed to actually represent and I guess now is a good moment to ask that question. Is it a bloodline or a certain state of awareness where you can perceive more of whats going on (or something else)?

What I got from the image linked is that the description given seems to be another way of phrasing the 'Luciferian rebellion' (what happened on Mars as an example). I don't understand how anything truly isolate themselves from Creator or the 'Primordial Being' and even though whats described of as two roads there would appear to be only one in reality and everyone has the same 'destination', it just takes some longer to get there than others.

I'm reminded of how only the strongest or maybe only the most mentally trained and enlightened Jedi were able to create 'force ghosts' in Star Wars. What they meant by that is that only some were capable and trained to the point of retaining their individuality after atrophy of the body. The Sith tried to achieve 'immortality' which only the Jedi have achieved through natural means but their closest success was creating 'holocrons' (I think it was) which were devices capable of storing some of their essence.

Interesting how the Jedi holocrons were cubes but the Sith were tetrahedrons (triangles). I wonder what the implication is there.

Anyway part of my point is that the middle ground appears to be what the Jedi achieved. They were able to move on beyond physicality and (I'm assuming) return to Creator but also retain their individuality/egos at the same time.

The Arthur mythos is said to be among (if not the) most understood one. We know what 'excalibur' is supposed to be and we know more of how Arthur is the 'once and future king', the 'stone' he ruled over and how he was less than successful at communing with the divine feminine that showered him with love in his life and how he was (and still is apparently) weak to women, but what of the 'Grail'?


Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: stgermaine on October 05, 2020, 05:07:15 AM
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Dreamed of  Il separatio. He said "You will be in trouble without me". Then I became a devil and started killing people while feeling contentment. Later I became a saint with sense of peace and light within.

Is sainthood a desirable outcome?

Were all doomed without il seperation for he is balance. Jew lucas wrote a senior popular movie series about the importance of il seperatio
''Is sainthood a desirable outcome?'' This gives me the answer
(https://i.imgur.com/4EjnPDu.jpg)
Actually gives a one sided answer, need a balance between the ways.
Title: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: stgermaine on May 03, 2021, 09:47:57 AM
Intense dream.. was walking and this girl gets near me in a seductive way. I got pricked and blood was drawn from me. Then she looks at me and becomes like 5 meters tall, cape, fiery aura, like a cartoonish evil witch.  She says her name is Lilith. She was saying you did a blood oath and now your soul is mine and you have to do what I say. I refused and kept repeating I did not consent over and over, put my arms in a fighting stance and rushed towards her, even though I was very scared.. then I ran through her, she was gone, then I started to walk on air and learned to control the flying even as I realized its “physically” impossible
Title: Re: Experiences, Astral Projection and Dreams
Post by: sheepdog on May 04, 2021, 01:47:45 PM
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Intense dream.. was walking and this girl gets near me in a seductive way. I got pricked and blood was drawn from me. Then she looks at me and becomes like 5 meters tall, cape, fiery aura, like a cartoonish evil witch.  She says her name is Lilith. She was saying you did a blood oath and now your soul is mine and you have to do what I say. I refused and kept repeating I did not consent over and over, put my arms in a fighting stance and rushed towards her, even though I was very scared.. then I ran through her, she was gone, then I started to walk on air and learned to control the flying even as I realized its “physically” impossible

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