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Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#15: September 02, 2020, 11:08:44 AM
you don't invite germs and dust into your house, but you clean it anyways, because you care for it.

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Just saying that its easier to close tge door on things you dont invite in.

Also im not saying things dont come univited but rather that we can have some control.

Control over ourselves is much more likely then control over others.

Dont be a trout, be a surfer

i like that haha

the truth is often best described as a tension between two extremes which is something a surfer must be able to ride physically.

Snowboarding too, on powder.



that's the ying yang symbol, the important part of it is the middle line between the black and white, which are really two parts of the same (black grows from white and viceversa). the point is to make a path between both sides, like in a checkerboard
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#16: September 02, 2020, 12:47:35 PM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#17: September 02, 2020, 12:53:48 PM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?

And which god was described in romans
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#18: September 02, 2020, 12:56:15 PM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?

But if Sophie did indeed 'earn' what had entered her reality then if it wasn't that one specific raper it would have been another or another event far worse than what she experienced. The point is that if she 'deserved' the energy attracted to her then she would have had it manifest another way, be it rape or something else.

'Peace' seems like stagnation where growth does not occur.
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#19: September 02, 2020, 01:37:36 PM
The question of her agency is being skirted because it unravels this nonsense concept.  You drive the car you dont create the race course
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#20: September 02, 2020, 01:52:07 PM
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its not about them

its about you.

what do you want to invite into your world?

That is a shockingly narcissistic world view. Think you are both  the doorman of your universe and an impervious wall.

Did sophie invite her mothers boyfriend into her life to rape her repeatedly? What was her transgression?

You can correct me if I'm wrong but this seems to be what you are referring to.

Sophie's Nightmare: How a Georgia mother allowed her boyfriend to impregnate her 10-year-old
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It's very interesting that Nick chose this specific rape case to use in the general inquiry of this thread. Implying that the link above is the correct thing Nick is referencing, then there are some things that stand out I took note of.

The girl who was raped is named 'Sophie'. The 'Sophie' is 'Sophia' and its etymology is "skill, knowledge of, acquaintance with; sound judgment, practical wisdom; cunning, shrewdness; philosophy," but the general meaning is the personification of wisdom. 

The man who raped her, someone of African descent, is literally named 'Nicholas Deon Thrash'.
I'm not sure of his middle name 'Deon'. The etymology according to some sources is 'to suckle' or 'nipple' but others (Greek) say that its "That which is binding, needful, right, proper.".
Also 'Deon' is just one letter away from 'Demon'.

The etymology of 'Thrash' is "to separate grains from wheat, etc., by beating,". It's general meaning is "to make wild movements like those of a flail or whip" or simply 'a beating'.

The etymology of 'Nicholas' is 'victory people'.

The meaning of 'Nicholas Deon Thrash' may vary depending on the meaning of 'Deon' you go with, but just to give one very close possibility, its close to meaning 'Victory people of the needful beating'. Another possibility is 'Victory people of the necessary beating' or 'Victory people of the Demon(s) that beat people' or even 'Victory people of the suckling (on nipples) beaters'.

To paint a wide brush it would be 'Victory people of the necessary Demons that suckle on people and beat them'.

So this (these) demon(s) that suckle and beat on people claim victory over what? The rape of divine knowledge and wisdom (more feminine than masculine)?

Also the mother is aged thirty three. For what that is worth.

This could just be a big nothingburger but I wanted to share it anyway.
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#21: September 02, 2020, 01:53:20 PM
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The question of her agency is being skirted because it unravels this nonsense concept.  You drive the car you dont create the race course

So she could have simply drove her car somewhere else but she decided not to and in turn is responsible for what happened(?)
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#22: September 02, 2020, 04:19:31 PM
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The question of her agency is being skirted because it unravels this nonsense concept.  You drive the car you dont create the race course

So she could have simply drove her car somewhere else but she decided not to and in turn is responsible for what happened(?)

Lots of roads but only one end point. But again metaphor aside, what did sophie do to deserve that.. and choosing to incarnate on earth is not an answer, i would expect that from your shaman friend monkey dick
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#23: September 02, 2020, 05:32:09 PM
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The question of her agency is being skirted because it unravels this nonsense concept.  You drive the car you dont create the race course

So she could have simply drove her car somewhere else but she decided not to and in turn is responsible for what happened(?)

Lots of roads but only one end point. But again metaphor aside, what did sophie do to deserve that.. and choosing to incarnate on earth is not an answer, i would expect that from your shaman friend monkey dick

So after reading her statement to the court, which I thought was interesting to say the least, it seems that her 'error' was in failing to resist this 'Thrash'. If she was too weak to resist him physically (which is to be expected from such an age gap) then she should have searched for someone who could help her.
She did try to do this but she went to all the wrong people. 'Wrong people' in mention being her entire family besides her grandmother apparently.

Her statement to the court shows that she was feeling low and self destructive, trying to 'run away' and not face what was going on, turning to questionable activities and people thinking it would numb what she was going through.
I think its 'clear' here that she refused to acknowledge what was going on but when she did and sought treatment she became better because she wanted to improve and do better, not because someone else wanted her to.

So the point is that she wanted to and persisted with her will power to find a way to improve after the situation she apparently could have avoided happened. If she had this will power to improve while younger and not tried to run away and found someone else better to assist her than her garbage family, then this may not have gotten as bad as it did.

She put her faith in someone else and expected them to protect her. That seems to be the biggest fault in her actions. When you put yourself in the hands of others, be it for protection or sustenance, you are at their mercy and what ever they have planned for you.

The 'WUSA9' article on this seems to have the most information. All other reports on this lack the amount of information presented in that article.
In that article they report that not only the mothers boyfriend molested her but also her foster father she 'inherited' after the court placed her in a foster home (this happens far more than most would like to believe, so it would seem).
So her mothers boyfriend and the later foster father both abused her. For some reason she thought the mothers boyfriend or her foster father was her actual father.
This is reported in the quoted (but only linked in one place I found) statement to the court she made. "
I’ve questioned why someone who is supposed to love me and be my father would do this to me, and it hurts to get raped by the ones who “love” you."


It's also reported that the mothers boyfriend was 'charming' enough to gain the mothers benefit of the doubt and apparently made an effort to buy the approval and trust of the child 'Sophie'.

The WUSA9 article left out the statement to the court that is shared in another article (linked below). I think its weird she apparent says "Thank you for my time".

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"At the age of eight, my life changed.

As a result of this change, I have experienced a number of emotional and behavioral difficulties,

and I’ve also experienced the pain of separation from my family especially my mom, my brother and my son.

These changes have impacted my life a lot in the past four years,

and I want to explain a little more what my impact looked like.

I went [from] a happy, positive, cheerful person to a depressed, negative and unhappy person and I once had a childhood,

but I often tell myself I want my childhood back, but I am stuck with the reality that I can never get it back.

What happened to me has changed the way I view myself, others in the world.

I’ve questioned why someone who is supposed to love me and be my father would do this to me, and it hurts to get raped by the ones who “love” you.

I was afraid to tell him because my whole life was shattered, and I felt like I was going to get hurt, and even when I tried speaking up no one would listen in my family. My life has been a roller coaster of experiences spiraling out of control.


I have self- harmed to numb the pain, anger, outbursts and fighting because I can’t communicate how I feel inside.

Running away to escape my pain. Substance abuse to express my feelings.

Getting in trouble at school and involvement in unhealthy relationships.

I did these things to try to escape my own living hell. Despite all of this, I am determined to gain back a life of happiness, positivity and cheerfulness. Although I can’t get my childhood back, I will gain a successful and [sic] teenage and adult life.

I am receiving therapy to help me learn to express my thoughts and feelings in healthier ways, manage my emotions better, improve my self-esteem, positive and healthy interactions with others and process through the negative impacts of my trauma, successfully overcome the past.

I’ve been successful in treatment, and I have significantly decreased my self-harm behaviors, and I will continue to work towards to [sic] my goals in treatment. My favorite quote tells me is each day of “life is tougher but I am tougher”.

Thank you for my time."
Sophie Speaks: How a Georgia mother allowed her boyfriend to impregnate her 10-year-old
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Because you haven't said otherwise, I will continue to assume that this story and the articles linked are referring to the same 'Sophie' you are referring to.
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#24: September 02, 2020, 06:35:01 PM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?

And which god was described in romans

thank you i did not want to conflate this point with what i was saying but tou are right here. The New Testament has been written to give supremacy to Rome imo as we continue to give to Ceasar what is his and also by reversing any ideas that food can be unclean if God has cleaned it.

So then what we get from this is a sort of a potential for a build up.

Look at the lefties rioting.

they have decided to wreak havoc after years of putting up with percieved unjustices and now they are lashing out.

insurance companies are not covering ghe damages and what did all the small business owners do to deserve this?

it becomes a tit for a tat and where will it end?

when both sides borrow trouble there will be trouble thats very simple.

they wanted trouble and they found it.
How many small business owners will join the rabble now after losing it all?

none, i hope.

the elites and select big business win again

where is nero, 616 playing his violin?

what if noone played their game?

I dont know I think ghere is truth to Romans  20 and it was left intact because all the other forces misdirected, this one just pisses everyone off.
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#25: September 02, 2020, 06:40:26 PM
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The question of her agency is being skirted because it unravels this nonsense concept.  You drive the car you dont create the race course
thank you you are wrong.

i hold that Sophie is an innocent.

i have no knowledge of her karmic debts and i also find it a ridiculous statement to say she somehow deserved it too.

I like your analogy and it fits here too.

dangerous driving will find trouble a lot faster then careful driving.

driving with ill intent towards others will lead to trouble and may also cause others to drive with ill intent towards you.
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#26: September 02, 2020, 06:44:11 PM
wasnt there a golden rule thread around here somewhere?
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?

But if Sophie did indeed 'earn' what had entered her reality then if it wasn't that one specific raper it would have been another or another event far worse than what she experienced. The point is that if she 'deserved' the energy attracted to her then she would have had it manifest another way, be it rape or something else.

'Peace' seems like stagnation where growth does not occur.
i am not enlightened enough to have that information. Furthermore i maintain that regardless a person coming into this world deserves a fair shake a clean slate.
innocence lost often leads to more and more and more.
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?

But if Sophie did indeed 'earn' what had entered her reality then if it wasn't that one specific raper it would have been another or another event far worse than what she experienced. The point is that if she 'deserved' the energy attracted to her then she would have had it manifest another way, be it rape or something else.

'Peace' seems like stagnation where growth does not occur.
i am not enlightened enough to have that information. Furthermore i maintain that regardless a person coming into this world deserves a fair shake a clean slate.
innocence lost often leads to more and more and more.

'Sophie' appears to be a stronger person because of how she (ultimately) reacted to the situation she was apart of. If you run with this idea that she is indeed stronger after traumatic situation, wouldn't that be in line with how people derive the strength needed for magic?

Peace is stagnation where there is no agitation and because of that there is no growth. if true growth only occurs during agitation then there can never be 'peace'/stagnation. 'Sophie' was agitated and eventually she reacted in a way that apparently (going from the supposed court statement she made) allowed her to grow into a better person.

View this event from the lens of TPTB and she doesn't become a victim but someone 'gifted' with an opportunity to grow.
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Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
#29: September 02, 2020, 09:09:10 PM
My own most traumatic early event in life did very much to make me into who i needed and need to be so you are not off base but that is no excuse.
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