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Title: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 01, 2020, 02:18:35 PM
Hatred, ignorance and judgments leave you with hatred, ignorance and judgments.

Understanding, empathy , and compassion leave you with infinite possibilities.
Title: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 01, 2020, 03:24:30 PM
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Hatred, ignorance and judgments leave you with hatred, ignorance and judgments.

Understanding, empathy , and compassion leave you with infinite possibilities.

Everything you listed is purely subjective. For example the rational objection to homosexuals isnt homophobia as the left says, so what they consider hatred isnt.
Title: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: stgermaine on September 01, 2020, 05:02:51 PM
had a dream recently (I did think Nrg showed me this in dream):

First I see someone with a halo around a figure (instantly think that the halo represents one who has understood the cyclical nature of the universe). Then I see a bunch of graves next to each other in a line. The first two graves had a glass mosaic walls on the sides, filled with many symbols, the jera rune is the only one that stuck in the memory. The next grave I see is from gold, filled with all kinds of jewels around it, a picture of a bearded man with a staff is on it (something made me think its St John, but im not sure). The next grave, unkept, only dirt, had a symbol written with a finger on dirt with tree circles in a triangle formation (read about N.Roerichs orion symbol) and some + + + symbols. Next grave looked like someone tried to dig out the corpse. Some woman brushed off the dirt and screamed when she saw the bones. Then I had no fear and in my mind thought that its a good thing, at least the corpse is still there and not reanimated. I wanted it to be who says it, made eye contact with lord blackwood and knew he was gonna say it and I shouted to him - dont you say it you son of a bitch, but he said it first.
Title: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: ophiuchus on September 01, 2020, 07:41:36 PM
people who empathize too much become vulnerable to manipulators and scumbags. why do you think jews have the support of the average politically correct idiot.

showing compassion to someone that intentionally wants to subvert everything you care about is dumb, in my opinion.

I agree that ignorance must be eradicated, but to do that you can't be tolerant of all positions.

also, what does the cyclical nature of the universe have to do with your feelings?
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 01, 2020, 08:06:18 PM
its not about them

its about you.

what do you want to invite into your world?

Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 01, 2020, 09:45:54 PM
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its not about them

its about you.

what do you want to invite into your world?

That is a shockingly narcissistic world view. Think you are both  the doorman of your universe and an impervious wall.

Did sophie invite her mothers boyfriend into her life to rape her repeatedly? What was her transgression?
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 01, 2020, 10:11:36 PM
Just saying that its easier to close tge door on things you dont invite in.

Also im not saying things dont come univited but rather that we can have some control.

Control over ourselves is much more likely then control over others.

Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 02, 2020, 12:03:13 AM
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Just saying that its easier to close tge door on things you dont invite in.

Also im not saying things dont come univited but rather that we can have some control.

Control over ourselves is much more likely then control over others.

Dont be a trout, be a surfer
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 02, 2020, 12:25:29 AM
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Just saying that its easier to close tge door on things you dont invite in.

Also im not saying things dont come univited but rather that we can have some control.

Control over ourselves is much more likely then control over others.

Dont be a trout, be a surfer

A wave resembles a continuously forming spiral.

Who makes the waves that the surfers ride though? The magician?
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 02, 2020, 12:30:22 AM
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its not about them

its about you.

what do you want to invite into your world?

That is a shockingly narcissistic world view. Think you are both  the doorman of your universe and an impervious wall.

Did sophie invite her mothers boyfriend into her life to rape her repeatedly? What was her transgression?

You can correct me if I'm wrong but this seems to be what you are referring to.

Sophie's Nightmare: How a Georgia mother allowed her boyfriend to impregnate her 10-year-old
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/investigations/10-year-old-impregnated-by-mothers-boyfriend/85-a0090914-5347-4c95-9a49-6452f0e43b5e
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 02, 2020, 12:31:24 AM
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Just saying that its easier to close tge door on things you dont invite in.

Also im not saying things dont come univited but rather that we can have some control.

Control over ourselves is much more likely then control over others.

Dont be a trout, be a surfer

i like that haha

the truth is often best described as a tension between two extremes which is something a surfer must be able to ride physically.

Snowboarding too, on powder.

Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 02, 2020, 12:34:06 AM
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Just saying that its easier to close tge door on things you dont invite in.

Also im not saying things dont come univited but rather that we can have some control.

Control over ourselves is much more likely then control over others.

Dont be a trout, be a surfer

i like that haha

the truth is often best described as a tension between two extremes which is something a surfer must be able to ride physically.

Snowboarding too, on powder.

Or on the inter net, with a board of keys.
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 02, 2020, 12:49:31 AM
So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 02, 2020, 09:15:22 AM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 02, 2020, 09:41:20 AM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Hereditary and or bloodline demons and karma passed on to her, she consented to being born into a world and setting in which the circumstances to allow for this was present, she had karma from another incarnation carry over and manifest now and or she didn't actively do anything to stop this and relied on someone else for protection so that's her 'consent'.
Title: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: ophiuchus on September 02, 2020, 11:08:44 AM
you don't invite germs and dust into your house, but you clean it anyways, because you care for it.

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Just saying that its easier to close tge door on things you dont invite in.

Also im not saying things dont come univited but rather that we can have some control.

Control over ourselves is much more likely then control over others.

Dont be a trout, be a surfer

i like that haha

the truth is often best described as a tension between two extremes which is something a surfer must be able to ride physically.

Snowboarding too, on powder.



that's the ying yang symbol, the important part of it is the middle line between the black and white, which are really two parts of the same (black grows from white and viceversa). the point is to make a path between both sides, like in a checkerboard
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 02, 2020, 12:47:35 PM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 02, 2020, 12:53:48 PM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?

And which god was described in romans
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 02, 2020, 12:56:15 PM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?

But if Sophie did indeed 'earn' what had entered her reality then if it wasn't that one specific raper it would have been another or another event far worse than what she experienced. The point is that if she 'deserved' the energy attracted to her then she would have had it manifest another way, be it rape or something else.

'Peace' seems like stagnation where growth does not occur.
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 02, 2020, 01:37:36 PM
The question of her agency is being skirted because it unravels this nonsense concept.  You drive the car you dont create the race course
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 02, 2020, 01:52:07 PM
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its not about them

its about you.

what do you want to invite into your world?

That is a shockingly narcissistic world view. Think you are both  the doorman of your universe and an impervious wall.

Did sophie invite her mothers boyfriend into her life to rape her repeatedly? What was her transgression?

You can correct me if I'm wrong but this seems to be what you are referring to.

Sophie's Nightmare: How a Georgia mother allowed her boyfriend to impregnate her 10-year-old
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/investigations/10-year-old-impregnated-by-mothers-boyfriend/85-a0090914-5347-4c95-9a49-6452f0e43b5e

It's very interesting that Nick chose this specific rape case to use in the general inquiry of this thread. Implying that the link above is the correct thing Nick is referencing, then there are some things that stand out I took note of.

The girl who was raped is named 'Sophie'. The 'Sophie' is 'Sophia' and its etymology is "skill, knowledge of, acquaintance with; sound judgment, practical wisdom; cunning, shrewdness; philosophy," but the general meaning is the personification of wisdom. 

The man who raped her, someone of African descent, is literally named 'Nicholas Deon Thrash'.
I'm not sure of his middle name 'Deon'. The etymology according to some sources is 'to suckle' or 'nipple' but others (Greek) say that its "That which is binding, needful, right, proper.".
Also 'Deon' is just one letter away from 'Demon'.

The etymology of 'Thrash' is "to separate grains from wheat, etc., by beating,". It's general meaning is "to make wild movements like those of a flail or whip" or simply 'a beating'.

The etymology of 'Nicholas' is 'victory people'.

The meaning of 'Nicholas Deon Thrash' may vary depending on the meaning of 'Deon' you go with, but just to give one very close possibility, its close to meaning 'Victory people of the needful beating'. Another possibility is 'Victory people of the necessary beating' or 'Victory people of the Demon(s) that beat people' or even 'Victory people of the suckling (on nipples) beaters'.

To paint a wide brush it would be 'Victory people of the necessary Demons that suckle on people and beat them'.

So this (these) demon(s) that suckle and beat on people claim victory over what? The rape of divine knowledge and wisdom (more feminine than masculine)?

Also the mother is aged thirty three. For what that is worth.

This could just be a big nothingburger but I wanted to share it anyway.
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 02, 2020, 01:53:20 PM
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The question of her agency is being skirted because it unravels this nonsense concept.  You drive the car you dont create the race course

So she could have simply drove her car somewhere else but she decided not to and in turn is responsible for what happened(?)
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 02, 2020, 04:19:31 PM
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The question of her agency is being skirted because it unravels this nonsense concept.  You drive the car you dont create the race course

So she could have simply drove her car somewhere else but she decided not to and in turn is responsible for what happened(?)

Lots of roads but only one end point. But again metaphor aside, what did sophie do to deserve that.. and choosing to incarnate on earth is not an answer, i would expect that from your shaman friend monkey dick
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 02, 2020, 05:32:09 PM
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The question of her agency is being skirted because it unravels this nonsense concept.  You drive the car you dont create the race course

So she could have simply drove her car somewhere else but she decided not to and in turn is responsible for what happened(?)

Lots of roads but only one end point. But again metaphor aside, what did sophie do to deserve that.. and choosing to incarnate on earth is not an answer, i would expect that from your shaman friend monkey dick

So after reading her statement to the court, which I thought was interesting to say the least, it seems that her 'error' was in failing to resist this 'Thrash'. If she was too weak to resist him physically (which is to be expected from such an age gap) then she should have searched for someone who could help her.
She did try to do this but she went to all the wrong people. 'Wrong people' in mention being her entire family besides her grandmother apparently.

Her statement to the court shows that she was feeling low and self destructive, trying to 'run away' and not face what was going on, turning to questionable activities and people thinking it would numb what she was going through.
I think its 'clear' here that she refused to acknowledge what was going on but when she did and sought treatment she became better because she wanted to improve and do better, not because someone else wanted her to.

So the point is that she wanted to and persisted with her will power to find a way to improve after the situation she apparently could have avoided happened. If she had this will power to improve while younger and not tried to run away and found someone else better to assist her than her garbage family, then this may not have gotten as bad as it did.

She put her faith in someone else and expected them to protect her. That seems to be the biggest fault in her actions. When you put yourself in the hands of others, be it for protection or sustenance, you are at their mercy and what ever they have planned for you.

The 'WUSA9' article on this seems to have the most information. All other reports on this lack the amount of information presented in that article.
In that article they report that not only the mothers boyfriend molested her but also her foster father she 'inherited' after the court placed her in a foster home (this happens far more than most would like to believe, so it would seem).
So her mothers boyfriend and the later foster father both abused her. For some reason she thought the mothers boyfriend or her foster father was her actual father.
This is reported in the quoted (but only linked in one place I found) statement to the court she made. "
I’ve questioned why someone who is supposed to love me and be my father would do this to me, and it hurts to get raped by the ones who “love” you."


It's also reported that the mothers boyfriend was 'charming' enough to gain the mothers benefit of the doubt and apparently made an effort to buy the approval and trust of the child 'Sophie'.

The WUSA9 article left out the statement to the court that is shared in another article (linked below). I think its weird she apparent says "Thank you for my time".

Quote
"At the age of eight, my life changed.

As a result of this change, I have experienced a number of emotional and behavioral difficulties,

and I’ve also experienced the pain of separation from my family especially my mom, my brother and my son.

These changes have impacted my life a lot in the past four years,

and I want to explain a little more what my impact looked like.

I went [from] a happy, positive, cheerful person to a depressed, negative and unhappy person and I once had a childhood,

but I often tell myself I want my childhood back, but I am stuck with the reality that I can never get it back.

What happened to me has changed the way I view myself, others in the world.

I’ve questioned why someone who is supposed to love me and be my father would do this to me, and it hurts to get raped by the ones who “love” you.

I was afraid to tell him because my whole life was shattered, and I felt like I was going to get hurt, and even when I tried speaking up no one would listen in my family. My life has been a roller coaster of experiences spiraling out of control.


I have self- harmed to numb the pain, anger, outbursts and fighting because I can’t communicate how I feel inside.

Running away to escape my pain. Substance abuse to express my feelings.

Getting in trouble at school and involvement in unhealthy relationships.

I did these things to try to escape my own living hell. Despite all of this, I am determined to gain back a life of happiness, positivity and cheerfulness. Although I can’t get my childhood back, I will gain a successful and [sic] teenage and adult life.

I am receiving therapy to help me learn to express my thoughts and feelings in healthier ways, manage my emotions better, improve my self-esteem, positive and healthy interactions with others and process through the negative impacts of my trauma, successfully overcome the past.

I’ve been successful in treatment, and I have significantly decreased my self-harm behaviors, and I will continue to work towards to [sic] my goals in treatment. My favorite quote tells me is each day of “life is tougher but I am tougher”.

Thank you for my time."
Sophie Speaks: How a Georgia mother allowed her boyfriend to impregnate her 10-year-old
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/sophie-speaks/85-a8fb36fb-5e9d-43b3-946a-599d72ff223c

Because you haven't said otherwise, I will continue to assume that this story and the articles linked are referring to the same 'Sophie' you are referring to.
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 02, 2020, 06:35:01 PM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?

And which god was described in romans

thank you i did not want to conflate this point with what i was saying but tou are right here. The New Testament has been written to give supremacy to Rome imo as we continue to give to Ceasar what is his and also by reversing any ideas that food can be unclean if God has cleaned it.

So then what we get from this is a sort of a potential for a build up.

Look at the lefties rioting.

they have decided to wreak havoc after years of putting up with percieved unjustices and now they are lashing out.

insurance companies are not covering ghe damages and what did all the small business owners do to deserve this?

it becomes a tit for a tat and where will it end?

when both sides borrow trouble there will be trouble thats very simple.

they wanted trouble and they found it.
How many small business owners will join the rabble now after losing it all?

none, i hope.

the elites and select big business win again

where is nero, 616 playing his violin?

what if noone played their game?

I dont know I think ghere is truth to Romans  20 and it was left intact because all the other forces misdirected, this one just pisses everyone off.
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 02, 2020, 06:40:26 PM
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The question of her agency is being skirted because it unravels this nonsense concept.  You drive the car you dont create the race course
thank you you are wrong.

i hold that Sophie is an innocent.

i have no knowledge of her karmic debts and i also find it a ridiculous statement to say she somehow deserved it too.

I like your analogy and it fits here too.

dangerous driving will find trouble a lot faster then careful driving.

driving with ill intent towards others will lead to trouble and may also cause others to drive with ill intent towards you.
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 02, 2020, 06:44:11 PM
wasnt there a golden rule thread around here somewhere?
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 02, 2020, 07:23:29 PM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?

But if Sophie did indeed 'earn' what had entered her reality then if it wasn't that one specific raper it would have been another or another event far worse than what she experienced. The point is that if she 'deserved' the energy attracted to her then she would have had it manifest another way, be it rape or something else.

'Peace' seems like stagnation where growth does not occur.
i am not enlightened enough to have that information. Furthermore i maintain that regardless a person coming into this world deserves a fair shake a clean slate.
innocence lost often leads to more and more and more.
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 02, 2020, 07:36:59 PM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?

But if Sophie did indeed 'earn' what had entered her reality then if it wasn't that one specific raper it would have been another or another event far worse than what she experienced. The point is that if she 'deserved' the energy attracted to her then she would have had it manifest another way, be it rape or something else.

'Peace' seems like stagnation where growth does not occur.
i am not enlightened enough to have that information. Furthermore i maintain that regardless a person coming into this world deserves a fair shake a clean slate.
innocence lost often leads to more and more and more.

'Sophie' appears to be a stronger person because of how she (ultimately) reacted to the situation she was apart of. If you run with this idea that she is indeed stronger after traumatic situation, wouldn't that be in line with how people derive the strength needed for magic?

Peace is stagnation where there is no agitation and because of that there is no growth. if true growth only occurs during agitation then there can never be 'peace'/stagnation. 'Sophie' was agitated and eventually she reacted in a way that apparently (going from the supposed court statement she made) allowed her to grow into a better person.

View this event from the lens of TPTB and she doesn't become a victim but someone 'gifted' with an opportunity to grow.
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 02, 2020, 09:09:10 PM
My own most traumatic early event in life did very much to make me into who i needed and need to be so you are not off base but that is no excuse.
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 02, 2020, 10:59:49 PM
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The question of her agency is being skirted because it unravels this nonsense concept.  You drive the car you dont create the race course

So she could have simply drove her car somewhere else but she decided not to and in turn is responsible for what happened(?)

Lots of roads but only one end point. But again metaphor aside, what did sophie do to deserve that.. and choosing to incarnate on earth is not an answer, i would expect that from your shaman friend monkey dick

So after reading her statement to the court, which I thought was interesting to say the least, it seems that her 'error' was in failing to resist this 'Thrash'. If she was too weak to resist him physically (which is to be expected from such an age gap) then she should have searched for someone who could help her.
She did try to do this but she went to all the wrong people. 'Wrong people' in mention being her entire family besides her grandmother apparently.

Her statement to the court shows that she was feeling low and self destructive, trying to 'run away' and not face what was going on, turning to questionable activities and people thinking it would numb what she was going through.
I think its 'clear' here that she refused to acknowledge what was going on but when she did and sought treatment she became better because she wanted to improve and do better, not because someone else wanted her to.

So the point is that she wanted to and persisted with her will power to find a way to improve after the situation she apparently could have avoided happened. If she had this will power to improve while younger and not tried to run away and found someone else better to assist her than her garbage family, then this may not have gotten as bad as it did.

She put her faith in someone else and expected them to protect her. That seems to be the biggest fault in her actions. When you put yourself in the hands of others, be it for protection or sustenance, you are at their mercy and what ever they have planned for you.

The 'WUSA9' article on this seems to have the most information. All other reports on this lack the amount of information presented in that article.
In that article they report that not only the mothers boyfriend molested her but also her foster father she 'inherited' after the court placed her in a foster home (this happens far more than most would like to believe, so it would seem).
So her mothers boyfriend and the later foster father both abused her. For some reason she thought the mothers boyfriend or her foster father was her actual father.
This is reported in the quoted (but only linked in one place I found) statement to the court she made. "
I’ve questioned why someone who is supposed to love me and be my father would do this to me, and it hurts to get raped by the ones who “love” you."


It's also reported that the mothers boyfriend was 'charming' enough to gain the mothers benefit of the doubt and apparently made an effort to buy the approval and trust of the child 'Sophie'.

The WUSA9 article left out the statement to the court that is shared in another article (linked below). I think its weird she apparent says "Thank you for my time".

Quote
"At the age of eight, my life changed.

As a result of this change, I have experienced a number of emotional and behavioral difficulties,

and I’ve also experienced the pain of separation from my family especially my mom, my brother and my son.

These changes have impacted my life a lot in the past four years,

and I want to explain a little more what my impact looked like.

I went [from] a happy, positive, cheerful person to a depressed, negative and unhappy person and I once had a childhood,

but I often tell myself I want my childhood back, but I am stuck with the reality that I can never get it back.

What happened to me has changed the way I view myself, others in the world.

I’ve questioned why someone who is supposed to love me and be my father would do this to me, and it hurts to get raped by the ones who “love” you.

I was afraid to tell him because my whole life was shattered, and I felt like I was going to get hurt, and even when I tried speaking up no one would listen in my family. My life has been a roller coaster of experiences spiraling out of control.


I have self- harmed to numb the pain, anger, outbursts and fighting because I can’t communicate how I feel inside.

Running away to escape my pain. Substance abuse to express my feelings.

Getting in trouble at school and involvement in unhealthy relationships.

I did these things to try to escape my own living hell. Despite all of this, I am determined to gain back a life of happiness, positivity and cheerfulness. Although I can’t get my childhood back, I will gain a successful and [sic] teenage and adult life.

I am receiving therapy to help me learn to express my thoughts and feelings in healthier ways, manage my emotions better, improve my self-esteem, positive and healthy interactions with others and process through the negative impacts of my trauma, successfully overcome the past.

I’ve been successful in treatment, and I have significantly decreased my self-harm behaviors, and I will continue to work towards to [sic] my goals in treatment. My favorite quote tells me is each day of “life is tougher but I am tougher”.

Thank you for my time."
Sophie Speaks: How a Georgia mother allowed her boyfriend to impregnate her 10-year-old
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/sophie-speaks/85-a8fb36fb-5e9d-43b3-946a-599d72ff223c

Because you haven't said otherwise, I will continue to assume that this story and the articles linked are referring to the same 'Sophie' you are referring to.

You realize an attorney coached that statemeht right
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 02, 2020, 11:00:58 PM
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So back to the cyclical nature if the universe...

the uninvited actor such as this terrible raper has invited all of the terrible things he put on the child onto himself. The world he has created for himself through this act is like a living hell.

i am sure of it even though i lack any details.

But what of sophie what agency does she have in this? What did a 9 year old do to accrue so much bad karma that that evil was visited upon her

Rather than attempt to explain Sophies lot i think its more prudent to get the raper to realize this truth ahead of any transgressions.
now he has not only stuck himself in a hell but he tries to take everyone involved with him.

misery loves company as they say.

do they deserve that?
its not really for me to say but i dont think anyone deserves that.

the lack of information gets us to Romans 20
where Paul describes God's sole duty to judge.

in my view its not relavent if this situation is brought on by Sophi somehow because I prefer to see her as innocent and it is the raper who is the transgressor who will pay for what he did at least 10 times.

now how can it all be fixed?

how can all parties involved ascend from this situation even just to live a peaceful life?

And which god was described in romans

thank you i did not want to conflate this point with what i was saying but tou are right here. The New Testament has been written to give supremacy to Rome imo as we continue to give to Ceasar what is his and also by reversing any ideas that food can be unclean if God has cleaned it.

So then what we get from this is a sort of a potential for a build up.

Look at the lefties rioting.

they have decided to wreak havoc after years of putting up with percieved unjustices and now they are lashing out.

insurance companies are not covering ghe damages and what did all the small business owners do to deserve this?

it becomes a tit for a tat and where will it end?

when both sides borrow trouble there will be trouble thats very simple.

they wanted trouble and they found it.
How many small business owners will join the rabble now after losing it all?

none, i hope.

the elites and select big business win again

where is nero, 616 playing his violin?

what if noone played their game?

I dont know I think ghere is truth to Romans  20 and it was left intact because all the other forces misdirected, this one just pisses everyone off.

The fire ends when the last Ember is snuffed out and every bit of oxygen sucked away
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 02, 2020, 11:01:49 PM
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wasnt there a golden rule thread around here somewhere?

Yes and it discussed a lot of misconceptions about it actually a lot of play Common axioms are grossly misinterpreted.

Do you want to others turn the other cheek was thicker than water etc..
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 03, 2020, 12:37:27 AM
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You realize an attorney coached that statemeht right

"Coached" as in had a role in how it was worded at the very least? Interesting I did not know that had I known that before I probably wouldn't have written a long post on it at least not in the same way as I have.

I suppose it makes sense given that she couldn't have been more than 12 years old at the time and I'm going to assume that her way of writing wasn't advanced enough to match what the court statement actually said and covered. I could be wrong there.

How do you know an attorney coached the statement? I must have missed where that was at least suggested.

Anyway, that still leaves us with what did she do to bring about what rape and related experiences she had. Was anything else in there besides the statement accurate (in what I said)?
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 03, 2020, 11:18:08 AM
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You realize an attorney coached that statemeht right

"Coached" as in had a role in how it was worded at the very least? Interesting I did not know that had I known that before I probably wouldn't have written a long post on it at least not in the same way as I have.

I suppose it makes sense given that she couldn't have been more than 12 years old at the time and I'm going to assume that her way of writing wasn't advanced enough to match what the court statement actually said and covered. I could be wrong there.

How do you know an attorney coached the statement? I must have missed where that was at least suggested.

Anyway, that still leaves us with what did she do to bring about what rape and related experiences she had. Was anything else in there besides the statement accurate (in what I said)?

Because a) 12 year old rape victims done speak like that. B) she's In a severe family court issue right now
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 03, 2020, 02:14:09 PM
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Just saying that its easier to close tge door on things you dont invite in.

Also im not saying things dont come univited but rather that we can have some control.

Control over ourselves is much more likely then control over others.

Dont be a trout, be a surfer

A wave resembles a continuously forming spiral.

Who makes the waves that the surfers ride though? The magician?

I thought about this some more. If everything that happens on 'Earth' is the manifestation of the many planes above it, then it wouldn't be possible for a man, just a man to create the waves. If a men are vessels used to navigate this physical reality then all you could do is ride the waves (of energy).

Energy is represented in waves. If we are all energy and the higher density beings are more 'pure energy' (if that makes sense) than we are here, then the 'waves' would have to be made on a higher plane by an energy greater than that of a 'mere human/mortal' and then, eventually, the man on Earth can ride the waves when they have arrived in his waters.

Is the once and future king of the s tone also a creator of the waves we ride?

Creator made the ride and all men are gifted with a chance in their own vessel in which they control the wheel to experience the ride and see what they can do with it.
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Undestroyer on September 07, 2020, 04:22:27 PM
the op of this topic can pacify some people.
my understanding from this discussion now is that the halo thing and the cyclical nature of the universe may not be the universe.

in a way it is us.

eye for an eye
stupid is is stupid does
and such.

here is a message i just ran into that i find useful and earmarks the importance of master Tsung

https://youtu.be/qj9D84CoR08
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: sheepdog on September 15, 2020, 02:48:21 PM
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the op of this topic can pacify some people.
my understanding from this discussion now is that the halo thing and the cyclical nature of the universe may not be the universe.

in a way it is us.

eye for an eye
stupid is is stupid does
and such.

here is a message i just ran into that i find useful and earmarks the importance of master Tsung

https://youtu.be/qj9D84CoR08
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2948/milankovitch-orbital-cycles-and-their-role-in-earths-climate/
Milankovitch cycles--Wobble, 27,500  cycle Orbit  100,00 year eccentric cycle Tilt /obliquity cycle
workin on it
Title: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: Zelezny on October 06, 2020, 01:40:15 PM
Once upon a time, a man awoke to find he had no memory of who he was or how he had gotten here. Suddenly, a voice spoke to the man: "Your second wish has been granted. Now, for your third- and final - wish."

The man considered this for a moment, and - seeing no other choice - made his final wish: 'Allow me to remember all that I have forgotten."

"Funny.' the voice laughed, granting the man's final wish. 'That was the first thing you asked for."
Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on October 06, 2020, 02:12:56 PM
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Once upon a time, a man awoke to find he had no memory of who he was or how he had gotten here. Suddenly, a voice spoke to the man: "Your second wish has been granted. Now, for your third- and final - wish."

The man considered this for a moment, and - seeing no other choice - made his final wish: 'Allow me to remember all that I have forgotten."

"Funny.' the voice laughed, granting the man's final wish. 'That was the first thing you asked for."

The man's final wish had been granted and after three wishes the being that granted them was set free from its container. It now roams free in the world and its up to either the man or someone else willing to deal with it.

Someone deals with it eventually and the being is put back in its container. Someone stumbles across it. The being appears and says it can grant the man three wishes.

The man makes his first wish.

Title: Re: Given the cyclical nature of the universe
Post by: sheepdog on October 06, 2020, 03:14:19 PM
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You realize an attorney coached that statemeht right

"Coached" as in had a role in how it was worded at the very least? Interesting I did not know that had I known that before I probably wouldn't have written a long post on it at least not in the same way as I have.

I suppose it makes sense given that she couldn't have been more than 12 years old at the time and I'm going to assume that her way of writing wasn't advanced enough to match what the court statement actually said and covered. I could be wrong there.

How do you know an attorney coached the statement? I must have missed where that was at least suggested.

Anyway, that still leaves us with what did she do to bring about what rape and related experiences she had. Was anything else in there besides the statement accurate (in what I said)?

Because a) 12 year old rape victims done speak like that. B) she's In a severe family court issue right now
Yesssiree Atty speak! sure as shite - some ---miserable bastards !Pricey ones took the ticket know of  them and they make shite vanish you cannot and thus never will  beat them case closed  thankfully lady luck was on my winning  side that day