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#15: June 27, 2020, 11:04:47 AM
Classical music is when people openly knew music was magic. Why did they brand vinyl 'vintage' and make it mostly inaccessible to most people? Why is music played in amphitheaters?
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#16: July 01, 2020, 01:45:20 PM
I know a bit about tritones; I wrote the below in response to someone who was looking for clarification on "The Devil's Note."

Diabolus in Musica (Devil in Music)

Generally called a diminished 5th or a tritone. Enharmonic equivalent of an augmented 4th.

The intervallic relationship of a diminished 5th is six semi-tones, either up or down from the starting pitch.

On a keyboard:

C - C# D - D# E - F - F# G - G# A - A# - B - C
0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12

Count up six steps starting from any note and you will arrive at that note's tritone. (C to F#/Gb is a tritone.)

Because western tonal music consists of 12 equal-tempered tones, the 6th tone splits the chromatic scale in half, thereby inverting the interval no matter what pitch is played.

A 5th (intervallic distance of seven semi-tones) is considered perfect. (C to G is a perfect 5th.)

Perfect has to do with the ratio of the two tones under consideration: 5:4, 3:2, 2:1.

Other intervals are considered imperfect (2nds, 3rds, 6ths, 7ths). These rations might be 18:32, 12:15, 30:36, etc.

The imperfect are more mathematically and harmonically complex whereas perfect intervals are more simple.

Another way to look at the diminished (to make smaller or reduced) 5th is to consider it as slightly "less than perfect," as the perfect 5th is the most stable harmonic interval, as well as providing the tonic-dominate relationship for western music, pre-atonalism.

Similar to spiritual understandings: we strive for perfection but fall short of the Ideal.

Another way again to look at it again is in terms of sound-resolution. It simultaneously offers the most discordant of sounds, while providing the most tense need of motion: it entices the ear while immediately necessitating moving onward and away from it.

Skilled composers know how to manipulate the tritone to cause radical shifts in the listener's consciousness.

The ancient church forbid the use of the tritone (hence the name diabolus in musica) precisely because of the effect it had on the consciousness of the day.

We in the modern world are so used to it that it does not cause the same effects it once did to our ancestors.


Regarding Paganini and the tritone, can you be more specific how an intervallic relationship relates to Musical Theurgy?

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#17: July 01, 2020, 02:52:22 PM
I have some interesting info in my notes. Here's one thought, who knows where it comes from:

"The Circle of Fifths is a map to the 12 dimensional existences. The next dimension, the closet in harmony is the 5th in one direction, and the 4th in the other. Augmented 4th or diminished 5th is a wall that blocks all. The pivot that is uninhabitable."

Previous to this incarnation of the board we had discussions about how the concurrently using 5ths may help open portals. I have a note saying, "If we were to listen to a steady, pleasing chord of a fifth, we are mentally conditioning ourselves to perceive the next dimension." There was some talk of this (I can't remember if they were using 5ths or just two notes) in the Hellier series.

Some other thoughts from my notes:

"Our frequencies have timbre just like instruments. Our timbre is part of what defines us as characters."

"The Mayans knew a secret about dimensions, there is a sacred space at the end of a musical scale. Modern Music divides the space 12 ways and spreads it across the scale so scales seem to be in tune for each key."

Episode 109 of The Black Tapes podcast titled, "Name that Tune," includes information about Alexander Scriabin, shephard tones, the Pythagorean comma, etc. Here's a link: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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#18: July 01, 2020, 03:13:56 PM
I am enjoying this thread, even though I don't have much to add to it.  Thanks Eli! :)
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#19: July 03, 2020, 02:11:17 PM
Itís been studied that Mozartís music helps improve memory, along with all other composers who understood what music actually is.

Now itís been confirmed that the Jewish composer Mahler, has the opposite affect on the brain.

ď Mahlerís music, by contrast, flows in a way that is very similar to how we hear a foreign language being spoken.. it would have a blurred effect (on memory)Ē

It was a big deal Mahler being a Jewish composer and many goys thought he was subverting traditional western music based off tonal harmony and sonata form.

Turns out they were completely right and Jews do subvert everything they touch

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#20: July 03, 2020, 08:28:03 PM
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It’s been studied that Mozart’s music helps improve memory, along with all other composers who understood what music actually is.

Now it’s been confirmed that the Jewish composer Mahler, has the opposite affect on the brain.

“ Mahler’s music, by contrast, flows in a way that is very similar to how we hear a foreign language being spoken.. it would have a blurred effect (on memory)”

It was a big deal Mahler being a Jewish composer and many goys thought he was subverting traditional western music based off tonal harmony and sonata form.

Turns out they were completely right and Jews do subvert everything they touch

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Those studies are heavily misrepresented the memory boost last only minutes and is minimal
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#21: July 03, 2020, 10:24:51 PM
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ď Mahlerís music, by contrast, flows in a way that is very similar to how we hear a foreign language being spoken.. it would have a blurred effect (on memory)Ē It was a big deal Mahler being a Jewish composer and many goys thought he was subverting traditional western music based off tonal harmony and sonata form. Turns out they were completely right and Jews do subvert everything they touch
ht/the-mozart-effect-on-short-term-memory/
Reminds me of the cathedral with the (((architecture))) of some amorphous blob of glass sticking out of the side.   They really do ruin everything.

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I know a bit about tritones; I wrote the below in response to someone who was looking for clarification on "The Devil's Note."

Diabolus in Musica (Devil in Music)

Generally called a diminished 5th or a tritone. Enharmonic equivalent of an augmented 4th.

The intervallic relationship of a diminished 5th is six semi-tones, either up or down from the starting pitch.

On a keyboard:

C - C# D - D# E - F - F# G - G# A - A# - B - C
0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12

Count up six steps starting from any note and you will arrive at that note's tritone. (C to F#/Gb is a tritone.)

Because western tonal music consists of 12 equal-tempered tones, the 6th tone splits the chromatic scale in half, thereby inverting the interval no matter what pitch is played.

A 5th (intervallic distance of seven semi-tones) is considered perfect. (C to G is a perfect 5th.)

Perfect has to do with the ratio of the two tones under consideration: 5:4, 3:2, 2:1.

Other intervals are considered imperfect (2nds, 3rds, 6ths, 7ths). These rations might be 18:32, 12:15, 30:36, etc.

The imperfect are more mathematically and harmonically complex whereas perfect intervals are more simple.

Another way to look at the diminished (to make smaller or reduced) 5th is to consider it as slightly "less than perfect," as the perfect 5th is the most stable harmonic interval, as well as providing the tonic-dominate relationship for western music, pre-atonalism.

Similar to spiritual understandings: we strive for perfection but fall short of the Ideal.

Another way again to look at it again is in terms of sound-resolution. It simultaneously offers the most discordant of sounds, while providing the most tense need of motion: it entices the ear while immediately necessitating moving onward and away from it.

Skilled composers know how to manipulate the tritone to cause radical shifts in the listener's consciousness.

The ancient church forbid the use of the tritone (hence the name diabolus in musica) precisely because of the effect it had on the consciousness of the day.

We in the modern world are so used to it that it does not cause the same effects it once did to our ancestors.


Regarding Paganini and the tritone, can you be more specific how an intervallic relationship relates to Musical Theurgy?

- Eli
Can you provide a good modern example?
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#22: July 03, 2020, 10:45:04 PM
I feel like what OP is calling 'Musical Theurgy' is leading him on a search for something very specific and niche to the point where he will ignore all the actual magical usage of music that is everywhere in modern times (it never went away).
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#23: July 03, 2020, 11:31:05 PM
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"often depicted as having a conch shell he would blow like a trumpet"
"which he blew like a trumpet to calm or raise the waves.[9] He was "trumpeter and bugler" to Oceanus and Poseidon.[10] Its sound was so cacophonous that when loudly blown, it put the giants to flight, who imagined it to be the roar of a dark wild beast"

Do you know why conch shells are considered sacred
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#24: July 03, 2020, 11:32:58 PM
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I know a bit about tritones; I wrote the below in response to someone who was looking for clarification on "The Devil's Note."

Diabolus in Musica (Devil in Music)

Generally called a diminished 5th or a tritone. Enharmonic equivalent of an augmented 4th.

The intervallic relationship of a diminished 5th is six semi-tones, either up or down from the starting pitch.

On a keyboard:

C - C# D - D# E - F - F# G - G# A - A# - B - C
0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12

Count up six steps starting from any note and you will arrive at that note's tritone. (C to F#/Gb is a tritone.)

Because western tonal music consists of 12 equal-tempered tones, the 6th tone splits the chromatic scale in half, thereby inverting the interval no matter what pitch is played.

A 5th (intervallic distance of seven semi-tones) is considered perfect. (C to G is a perfect 5th.)

Perfect has to do with the ratio of the two tones under consideration: 5:4, 3:2, 2:1.

Other intervals are considered imperfect (2nds, 3rds, 6ths, 7ths). These rations might be 18:32, 12:15, 30:36, etc.

The imperfect are more mathematically and harmonically complex whereas perfect intervals are more simple.

Another way to look at the diminished (to make smaller or reduced) 5th is to consider it as slightly "less than perfect," as the perfect 5th is the most stable harmonic interval, as well as providing the tonic-dominate relationship for western music, pre-atonalism.

Similar to spiritual understandings: we strive for perfection but fall short of the Ideal.

Another way again to look at it again is in terms of sound-resolution. It simultaneously offers the most discordant of sounds, while providing the most tense need of motion: it entices the ear while immediately necessitating moving onward and away from it.

Skilled composers know how to manipulate the tritone to cause radical shifts in the listener's consciousness.

The ancient church forbid the use of the tritone (hence the name diabolus in musica) precisely because of the effect it had on the consciousness of the day.

We in the modern world are so used to it that it does not cause the same effects it once did to our ancestors.


Regarding Paganini and the tritone, can you be more specific how an intervallic relationship relates to Musical Theurgy?

- Eli

Well the definition of theurgy the operation or affect Divinity in human affairs...
I'm sure you've heard the stories of paganini...
And tritones actually have a pretty unique effect on humans as of all music for that matter but I digress
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#25: July 04, 2020, 01:18:31 AM
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"often depicted as having a conch shell he would blow like a trumpet"
"which he blew like a trumpet to calm or raise the waves.[9] He was "trumpeter and bugler" to Oceanus and Poseidon.[10] Its sound was so cacophonous that when loudly blown, it put the giants to flight, who imagined it to be the roar of a dark wild beast"

Do you know why conch shells are considered sacred

They are in the shape of a spiral and if you put them to your ear you can 'hear the ocean'.

Hillenburg knew.

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#26: July 04, 2020, 01:21:19 AM
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"often depicted as having a conch shell he would blow like a trumpet"
"which he blew like a trumpet to calm or raise the waves.[9] He was "trumpeter and bugler" to Oceanus and Poseidon.[10] Its sound was so cacophonous that when loudly blown, it put the giants to flight, who imagined it to be the roar of a dark wild beast"

Do you know why conch shells are considered sacred
Fibonacci? The golden ratio
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"often depicted as having a conch shell he would blow like a trumpet"
"which he blew like a trumpet to calm or raise the waves.[9] He was "trumpeter and bugler" to Oceanus and Poseidon.[10] Its sound was so cacophonous that when loudly blown, it put the giants to flight, who imagined it to be the roar of a dark wild beast"

Do you know why conch shells are considered sacred
Fibonacci? The golden ratio

Yes. Powerful trinket it is.
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"often depicted as having a conch shell he would blow like a trumpet"
"which he blew like a trumpet to calm or raise the waves.[9] He was "trumpeter and bugler" to Oceanus and Poseidon.[10] Its sound was so cacophonous that when loudly blown, it put the giants to flight, who imagined it to be the roar of a dark wild beast"

Do you know why conch shells are considered sacred
Fibonacci? The golden ratio

Yes. Powerful trinket it is.

The cult of Saturn on /x/ referred to it as an 'elder number'.
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#29: July 04, 2020, 09:11:17 AM
Heres something i just ran into i dont fully understand it but its interesting and talks about the spaces in between
This is nirvanna remastered in a major key
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I'll try explain this in a simple way, Major keys are based on chords (more than one note played together) 1st, 3rd, 5th within a scale, think do, re, me, fa so la ti do, etc. (there are 12 semitones in an octave[it all loops back again])

Minor which is more sad, or moody music is in is basically the same as major but that third note is now flat, which generally means its a semitone(one key on a piano/one fret on a guitar) flat.

What this video is, is essentially the chord structure of the song has the flat thirds moved up a semitone to put it in a dfferent musical key, its been transposed from a minor key, to a major key. The reason it sounds more jovial and happy rather than like the original is because the space between the frequencies used in the chord structure has been changed.
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