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Re: Idioms
#15: September 24, 2020, 08:32:09 AM
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Is it really better to be feared than loved? Can you be respected if someone loves you and vice versa?

Which does your power of observation tell you is more useful


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#16: September 24, 2020, 03:15:50 PM
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Is it really better to be feared than loved? Can you be respected if someone loves you and vice versa?

Which does your power of observation tell you is more useful

From what I've read of 'The Prince', being loved has its benefits but ultimately its fear that keeps people in place and cooperative.
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#17: September 24, 2020, 11:25:20 PM
Can you build a better mouse trap?

why reinvent the wheel

hint: we are mice
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Re: Idioms
#18: September 24, 2020, 11:36:49 PM
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Can you build a better mouse trap?

why reinvent the wheel

hint: we are mice

Are we mice or is the original Man so special that it can be molded into what ever variant of human the designer has in mind?

It would appear that certain groups who (appear to) have more knowledge than mankind does collectively has hijacked our godlike abilities and gotten us to use them to destroy ourselves, or even worse, turn ourselves into willing slaves.

Are we mice or has that lifestyle been imposed on us?


I will add that I forgot this was an idiom, lol. The original phrase appears to be from the 18th century but it has eventually morphed into "Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door".
The phrase changing its focus from what ever it was before to its more current form that speaks of mice could hint at when this shift (when the mice cult started to get their way) really took place in relatively modern times.
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Re: Idioms
#19: September 25, 2020, 12:23:07 AM
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Can you build a better mouse trap?

why reinvent the wheel

hint: we are mice

Are we mice or is the original Man so special that it can be molded into what ever variant of human the designer has in mind?

It would appear that certain groups who (appear to) have more knowledge than mankind does collectively has hijacked our godlike abilities and gotten us to use them to destroy ourselves, or even worse, turn ourselves into willing slaves.

Are we mice or has that lifestyle been imposed on us?


I will add that I forgot this was an idiom, lol. The original phrase appears to be from the 18th century but it has eventually morphed into "Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door".
The phrase changing its focus from what ever it was before to its more current form that speaks of mice could hint at when this shift (when the mice cult started to get their way) really took place in relatively modern times.

i sort of morphed it to fit with the John Calhoun experiments and also the idea of the serpant (can) catching mice

not sure if thats how it was from the beginning but it seems to add an interesting insight imo
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Re: Idioms
#20: September 26, 2020, 05:18:09 PM
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Is it really better to be feared than loved? Can you be respected if someone loves you and vice versa?

Fear works due to self-preservation, which works due to illusion of separation. It works until those that fear you are either asked to sacrifice themselves for you, or there is something else that inspires more fear.

Love can work past that point, until those that love you willingly transcend human programming.

People are willing to die for their families for the love of their families, not for the fear of harm coming to their family.
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#21: September 26, 2020, 05:44:49 PM
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Is it really better to be feared than loved? Can you be respected if someone loves you and vice versa?

Fear works due to self-preservation, which works due to illusion of separation. It works until those that fear you are either asked to sacrifice themselves for you, or there is something else that inspires more fear.

Love can work past that point, until those that love you willingly transcend human programming.

People are willing to die for their families for the love of their families, not for the fear of harm coming to their family.

If you can get someone to fear you even in death then that would seem like the most ideal and powerful. Something most would think only a god or powerful demon was capable of. Imagine being able to inspire the idea in someone that you have power to curse their bloodline for who knows how long.
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#22: September 26, 2020, 06:02:26 PM
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Is it really better to be feared than loved? Can you be respected if someone loves you and vice versa?

Fear works due to self-preservation, which works due to illusion of separation. It works until those that fear you are either asked to sacrifice themselves for you, or there is something else that inspires more fear.

Love can work past that point, until those that love you willingly transcend human programming.

People are willing to die for their families for the love of their families, not for the fear of harm coming to their family.

If you can get someone to fear you even in death then that would seem like the most ideal and powerful. Something most would think only a god or powerful demon was capable of. Imagine being able to inspire the idea in someone that you have power to curse their bloodline for who knows how long.

Yes but what could hold you after death? After the death of the individual, only that which the individual identified with can affect them right? And how can an individual to truly identify with a concept outside of themselves?

In the example of the bloodline, if you hated your bloodline or otherwise felt indifferent, that fear would not take hold upon you. You would only care for a bloodline curse if you cared for the bloodline, e.g. if you loved the idea of the bloodline or identified with it in some way
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#23: September 26, 2020, 06:33:31 PM
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Is it really better to be feared than loved? Can you be respected if someone loves you and vice versa?

Fear works due to self-preservation, which works due to illusion of separation. It works until those that fear you are either asked to sacrifice themselves for you, or there is something else that inspires more fear.

Love can work past that point, until those that love you willingly transcend human programming.

People are willing to die for their families for the love of their families, not for the fear of harm coming to their family.

If you can get someone to fear you even in death then that would seem like the most ideal and powerful. Something most would think only a god or powerful demon was capable of. Imagine being able to inspire the idea in someone that you have power to curse their bloodline for who knows how long.

Yes but what could hold you after death? After the death of the individual, only that which the individual identified with can affect them right? And how can an individual to truly identify with a concept outside of themselves?

In the example of the bloodline, if you hated your bloodline or otherwise felt indifferent, that fear would not take hold upon you. You would only care for a bloodline curse if you cared for the bloodline, e.g. if you loved the idea of the bloodline or identified with it in some way

Why would you not care for the bloodline you choose to enter at birth?

People who make pacts with demons and become indebted to them do so usually at the cost of 'their soul'. 'Their soul' really meaning that they become the servant of the entity they made the deal with. It would be in the best interest of said individuals to prolong their physical life through any means possible.

I don't remember what episode of American Dad went over this but Stan made a deal with the devil and the last scene of that episode was him and his wife working out because they explained how they 'can't die' because after their physical body atrophies theirs 'nothing for them' because what ever is actually 'them' they signed over to another entity.

If the population you ruled over wasn't spiritually ignorant then its very much possible to instill fear after death in them. Even for ignorant populations who hump bibles (or their other religion equivalent) this is easily achievable as most of them 'fear god' or 'Jesus' (Lucifer) or what ever other god they worship.
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#24: September 26, 2020, 10:04:27 PM
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Is it really better to be feared than loved? Can you be respected if someone loves you and vice versa?

Fear works due to self-preservation, which works due to illusion of separation. It works until those that fear you are either asked to sacrifice themselves for you, or there is something else that inspires more fear.

Love can work past that point, until those that love you willingly transcend human programming.

People are willing to die for their families for the love of their families, not for the fear of harm coming to their family.

If you can get someone to fear you even in death then that would seem like the most ideal and powerful. Something most would think only a god or powerful demon was capable of. Imagine being able to inspire the idea in someone that you have power to curse their bloodline for who knows how long.

Yes but what could hold you after death? After the death of the individual, only that which the individual identified with can affect them right? And how can an individual to truly identify with a concept outside of themselves?

In the example of the bloodline, if you hated your bloodline or otherwise felt indifferent, that fear would not take hold upon you. You would only care for a bloodline curse if you cared for the bloodline, e.g. if you loved the idea of the bloodline or identified with it in some way

Why would you not care for the bloodline you choose to enter at birth?



Doesn't matter why, some just don't care. For those, such a curse would be pointless and would not control them.

The original question was 'Is it better to be feared or loved'.

My point is, being loved is better, as love for a concept will inspire others to willingly lay down their lives and convince others to do so. They will act to expand or improve what they love. Fear will keep others in line as long as there is something to fear. However, they will only act to protect what they love, or only have fear in relation to what they love.

If an individual fears death then it will keep them in line, if they fear harm to their family it will keep them in line. If they have no attachment or love for life or their family then they have no fear. If a demonic or selfish individual had no love of material wealth they would never have been in the contract. If they have no love of the life of earthly pleasure they lead, they would have no fear of the demon's contract.

If a population fears their ruler they will act within the bounds of their rulers laws as long as that ruler inspires fear. See: authoritarian regimes until military coups or resource constraints, Stalin.
If a population loves their ruler, they will act to please their ruler beyond laws and expectations. See: proselytization of religions and ideologies, Hitler.

I agree that fear is easier to achieve, and easy to repress with. The question was 'Is it Better?'. I guess the answer is, depends on your aims. Clearly TPTB have a favorite, and given their usual reversals, what do you really think is better?


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#25: September 27, 2020, 07:37:24 PM
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Is it really better to be feared than loved? Can you be respected if someone loves you and vice versa?

Fear works due to self-preservation, which works due to illusion of separation. It works until those that fear you are either asked to sacrifice themselves for you, or there is something else that inspires more fear.

Love can work past that point, until those that love you willingly transcend human programming.

People are willing to die for their families for the love of their families, not for the fear of harm coming to their family.

Dying is easy. Few are willing to LIVE for their families
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#26: September 27, 2020, 07:38:13 PM
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Is it really better to be feared than loved? Can you be respected if someone loves you and vice versa?

Fear works due to self-preservation, which works due to illusion of separation. It works until those that fear you are either asked to sacrifice themselves for you, or there is something else that inspires more fear.

Love can work past that point, until those that love you willingly transcend human programming.

People are willing to die for their families for the love of their families, not for the fear of harm coming to their family.

If you can get someone to fear you even in death then that would seem like the most ideal and powerful. Something most would think only a god or powerful demon was capable of. Imagine being able to inspire the idea in someone that you have power to curse their bloodline for who knows how long.

Yes but what could hold you after death? After the death of the individual, only that which the individual identified with can affect them right? And how can an individual to truly identify with a concept outside of themselves?

In the example of the bloodline, if you hated your bloodline or otherwise felt indifferent, that fear would not take hold upon you. You would only care for a bloodline curse if you cared for the bloodline, e.g. if you loved the idea of the bloodline or identified with it in some way

Why would you not care for the bloodline you choose to enter at birth?



Doesn't matter why, some just don't care. For those, such a curse would be pointless and would not control them.

The original question was 'Is it better to be feared or loved'.

My point is, being loved is better, as love for a concept will inspire others to willingly lay down their lives and convince others to do so. They will act to expand or improve what they love. Fear will keep others in line as long as there is something to fear. However, they will only act to protect what they love, or only have fear in relation to what they love.

If an individual fears death then it will keep them in line, if they fear harm to their family it will keep them in line. If they have no attachment or love for life or their family then they have no fear. If a demonic or selfish individual had no love of material wealth they would never have been in the contract. If they have no love of the life of earthly pleasure they lead, they would have no fear of the demon's contract.

If a population fears their ruler they will act within the bounds of their rulers laws as long as that ruler inspires fear. See: authoritarian regimes until military coups or resource constraints, Stalin.
If a population loves their ruler, they will act to please their ruler beyond laws and expectations. See: proselytization of religions and ideologies, Hitler.

I agree that fear is easier to achieve, and easy to repress with. The question was 'Is it Better?'. I guess the answer is, depends on your aims. Clearly TPTB have a favorite, and given their usual reversals, what do you really think is better?

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#27: September 27, 2020, 10:23:30 PM
LIVE as in upgrading the bus you’re currently driving for your “family”
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#28: September 27, 2020, 11:16:26 PM
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LIVE as in upgrading the bus you’re currently driving for your “family”

What is your "family" (and "relatives") really if our time at the wheel is our chance to improve the bloodline we incarnate into?
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#29: September 27, 2020, 11:46:23 PM
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