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It's 5am here and Jupiter is vv bright S/SE of me. Earlier on there was Venus even brighter still. If Space does not exist, what are these? Are they within lower orbit? I get nice feels when I look at Jupiter but I get a sense of doom when I look at Venus.
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It's 5am here and Jupiter is vv bright S/SE of me. Earlier on there was Venus even brighter still. If Space does not exist, what are these? Are they within lower orbit? I get nice feels when I look at Jupiter but I get a sense of doom when I look at Venus.

What you see in the sky is a projection but besides that, what is seen in the sky (from the ground) is what you'd see when trying to look through a prism.

Have you ever seen those images and sometimes videos of people zooming up on the apparent stars and planets (using a camera)?
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You mean how it goes blurry for a bit (focusing)? I have not but I was into photography for a while and took some pics of the moon once.

Interestingly that reminds me I'm sure we switched timelines around 2012 because my photography was in 2009-2011 when I sold it all to fund a business and I cannot remember there being any bright objects in the sky other than the moon and "the north star" but now we got Saturn, Mars, Jupiter, Venus and Sirius all competing for real estate.
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You mean how it goes blurry for a bit (focusing)? I have not but I was into photography for a while and took some pics of the moon once.

Interestingly that reminds me I'm sure we switched timelines around 2012 because my photography was in 2009-2011 when I sold it all to fund a business and I cannot remember there being any bright objects in the sky other than the moon and "the north star" but now we got Saturn, Mars, Jupiter, Venus and Sirius all competing for real estate.

2012 and 2013 was when the timelines merged. Thank CERN for that.
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You mean how it goes blurry for a bit (focusing)? I have not but I was into photography for a while and took some pics of the moon once.

Interestingly that reminds me I'm sure we switched timelines around 2012 because my photography was in 2009-2011 when I sold it all to fund a business and I cannot remember there being any bright objects in the sky other than the moon and "the north star" but now we got Saturn, Mars, Jupiter, Venus and Sirius all competing for real estate.

2012 and 2013 was when the timelines merged. Thank CERN for that.

I love this website. Seriously, never a dull comment.

I have some theories on differing timelines/mandala effect/gematria. I'll try to post them sometime in on my desktop.

In the meantime, could you point me in any direction to learn more about this 2012/13 timeline merger you are referencing?
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You mean how it goes blurry for a bit (focusing)? I have not but I was into photography for a while and took some pics of the moon once.

Interestingly that reminds me I'm sure we switched timelines around 2012 because my photography was in 2009-2011 when I sold it all to fund a business and I cannot remember there being any bright objects in the sky other than the moon and "the north star" but now we got Saturn, Mars, Jupiter, Venus and Sirius all competing for real estate.

2012 and 2013 was when the timelines merged. Thank CERN for that.

I love this website. Seriously, never a dull comment.

I have some theories on differing timelines/mandala effect/gematria. I'll try to post them sometime in on my desktop.

In the meantime, could you point me in any direction to learn more about this 2012/13 timeline merger you are referencing?

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"So let's think of the World Wide Web is a metaphor the kind of work they do at CERN and how energy and in this case electricity which by the way is nothing more than magnetism although many people are not aware of that, and the truth of the Mandela effect becomes apparent"
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Gods

Certainly not a new teaching.
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Gods

Certainly not a new teaching.

Planets and stars are transcended beings. The topic was already touched on in another thread.
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You mean how it goes blurry for a bit (focusing)? I have not but I was into photography for a while and took some pics of the moon once.

Interestingly that reminds me I'm sure we switched timelines around 2012 because my photography was in 2009-2011 when I sold it all to fund a business and I cannot remember there being any bright objects in the sky other than the moon and "the north star" but now we got Saturn, Mars, Jupiter, Venus and Sirius all competing for real estate.

2012 and 2013 was when the timelines merged. Thank CERN for that.

I love this website. Seriously, never a dull comment.

I have some theories on differing timelines/mandala effect/gematria. I'll try to post them sometime in on my desktop.

In the meantime, could you point me in any direction to learn more about this 2012/13 timeline merger you are referencing?

Old Nick quote:
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"So let's think of the World Wide Web is a metaphor the kind of work they do at CERN and how energy and in this case electricity which by the way is nothing more than magnetism although many people are not aware of that, and the truth of the Mandela effect becomes apparent"

The Christ Letters mention electricity and magnetism a great number of times.

I did some playing around on a gemetria calculator and started plugging in values for well known Mandalla effect terms (Bernstein/Berenstain is one example).

I don't remember the actual meanings that were given now. But I do remember that a very clear pattern emerged. When calculating the overall value of the OLD versions of words (Bernstein) compared with the new ones (Berenstain) the newer meaning was almost always more negative in meaning when calculated using the gematria tool.

My theory (as small as it is) is that the Mandala effect is, in some way, gauging the changes in our world and presenting those changes as increasingly negative associations with the NEW mandala term.
It's like the universe is giving us a hint that says "you're not currently living in the same world as you were back when it was "Bernstein", you are now living in the NEW world, the "Berenstain" world, and it's far more negative than the old world. Enjoy!"

It's like video game easter eggs that tell the observant they are on a new level. And it's harder than the earlier one.
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Gods

Certainly not a new teaching.

Planets and stars are transcended beings. The topic was already touched on in another thread.

I remember it vaguely. Not something I have a hard time believing at all. I've read similar beliefs in other locations, though at the moment don't remember just where it was I read it.

Feels right to me.
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aren't planets planes of existence? or energy signatures

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The stars represent soul patterns. The twelve signs of the zodiac are twelve patterns from which the soul chooses when coming into the Earth realm. We are told the star signs influence people to get more bullish, or lionish, or airy, or introspective and further (Cayce, in Sugrue 1973:236)

The afterlife realms, manifested physically by the planets, are old dwelling-realms for the souls. The planets influence people somewhat if they have a prominent place in the horoscope, or sky - that is, star clusters (constellations), sun moon and planets and more in the heavens as seen from earth, and depicted in the form of the birth horoscope (radix) and progressive horoscopes.

Edgar Cayce stated that souls reincarnate, not only to the Earth realm, but also to other realms between Earth incarnations. If a soul incarnates into an Earth life from one of these afterlife realms, the soul [may] manifest the influence of the realm it recently came from. These influences are defined by astrology, and are related to the spirit realm associated with the astrological influence of the associated planet, indicates Cayce.

As an example of how a soul travels in thought (sojourns) to various afterlife realms, Cayce described his most recent sojourns - in the Uranus afterlife and then in the Venus sphere. He incarnated to Earth with these most recent experiences in his soul to become a clairvoyant with a heart for helping others.

Pluto (a dwarf planet in the Kuiper belt) was until recently considered the seventh planet from the Earth - in the afterlife it is a realm of consciousness, final development of full consciousness. The (dwarf) planet Pluto was referred to by Cayce years before it was discovered. He referred to it as Vulcan and also as Septimus. When Pluto was discovered, Cayce affirmed that Vulcan or Septimus was the same planet as Pluto. The Pluto afterlife realm brings regeneration and a growth in consciousness, but can also bring self-centeredness. Pluto represents spiritual growth and development of the soul and also of humanity.

Saturn of Cayce: Saturn afterlife is not pleasant, for inadequate matter is redone there. Accordingly, the Saturn influence "talks" for starting anew with that Great Changer (Saturn).
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However... when looked at through a metaphorical lens, then Cayce's reading falls exactly in line with Plato's description of the soul's ascent and descent. Plato described our descent into life on planet Earth as a soul journey originating in the Fixed Stars and then descending through the various spheres or influences of the [then known] seven planets.

When our life on planet Earth is finished, our souls then ascend back through the spheres or influences of the planets.

Planetary Symbolism

Moon (Luna) - where we've already been, the past, instincts, the unconscious, body
Sun (Sol) - where we're going in the future, heart, identity, consciousness, vitality, spirit
Venus - relating abilities, pleasure, enjoyment, values
Mercury - communication, intelligence, thought, ideas
Mars - assertiveness, action, getting what you want, survival
Jupiter - expansion, beneficent, jovial, opportunity, religious
Saturn - restriction, limitations, structure, learning hard lessons
Uranus - independence, the unexpected, intuition, genius, ingenuity, shock, inventive, detachment
Neptune - dependence, foggy, romantic, misty, mystical, magnetic, slightly out of focus, loss of ego, imagination
Pluto - intensity, hidden, invisible, transformation, survivor, eros, erotic

how accurate is this information?
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You mean how it goes blurry for a bit (focusing)? I have not but I was into photography for a while and took some pics of the moon once.

Interestingly that reminds me I'm sure we switched timelines around 2012 because my photography was in 2009-2011 when I sold it all to fund a business and I cannot remember there being any bright objects in the sky other than the moon and "the north star" but now we got Saturn, Mars, Jupiter, Venus and Sirius all competing for real estate.

2012 and 2013 was when the timelines merged. Thank CERN for that.

I love this website. Seriously, never a dull comment.

I have some theories on differing timelines/mandala effect/gematria. I'll try to post them sometime in on my desktop.

In the meantime, could you point me in any direction to learn more about this 2012/13 timeline merger you are referencing?

Old Nick quote:
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"So let's think of the World Wide Web is a metaphor the kind of work they do at CERN and how energy and in this case electricity which by the way is nothing more than magnetism although many people are not aware of that, and the truth of the Mandela effect becomes apparent"

The Christ Letters mention electricity and magnetism a great number of times.

I did some playing around on a gemetria calculator and started plugging in values for well known Mandalla effect terms (Bernstein/Berenstain is one example).

I don't remember the actual meanings that were given now. But I do remember that a very clear pattern emerged. When calculating the overall value of the OLD versions of words (Bernstein) compared with the new ones (Berenstain) the newer meaning was almost always more negative in meaning when calculated using the gematria tool.

My theory (as small as it is) is that the Mandala effect is, in some way, gauging the changes in our world and presenting those changes as increasingly negative associations with the NEW mandala term.
It's like the universe is giving us a hint that says "you're not currently living in the same world as you were back when it was "Bernstein", you are now living in the NEW world, the "Berenstain" world, and it's far more negative than the old world. Enjoy!"

The only thing that's changing is how you perceive things.
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aren't planets planes of existence? or energy signatures

Both but only because they are powerful Consciousnesses that have chosen to create worlds and Lightbring their conscious “energy” to others.
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Gods

Certainly not a new teaching.

Most truth has been echoed across time and geography
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