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#135: June 20, 2020, 07:35:28 PM
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So Bill wants to kill the (his?) reptilian masters by starving them of the Sun?
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Re: Im sorry for withholding this...
#136: June 21, 2020, 03:59:36 PM
So whats the overall message? They work both ends of the material dipoles, and the real duality is between the prolongation of their bodies and earthly power vs. the prolonging of our otherworldly souls? Too simple and obvious, no? This would correlate to the cosmological significance of "2020" (2020 vision) and "clarity". Etymology: from PIE kehl - to call, shout. Latin clarus, clear, but also "bright", renowned, respected, and, da da na daa, UPSTANDING? The caduceus, symbolic of messenger between gods and body/blood workers, has two snakes rising upward. Events for years 1000 - 1020: Nile freezes over, Vikings come to North America, Christendom takes hold in Europe. So what happens in the 2020's? Someone different stands up, or is called? The hour for phases 3 ticks clear? Obviously there is a massive scope in this topic, a little more precision/direction in your nudge would help
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#137: June 21, 2020, 10:55:12 PM
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The Time of Thin Blood is a period in Kindred eschatology that antedates Gehenna by some short period. Traditionally, Kindred scholars have viewed it as a period of political or numerical ascendance by high-generation vampires and optionally Caitiff.

The Time of Thin Blood sourcebook explains that the actual danger of the Time of Thin Blood is not the presence of high-generation vampires, but the deaths of vampires. The death of a Clan member causes a psychic signal to go to the Clan Antediluvian, and if enough of them hit, then the Antediluvian may rise. Since high-generation vampires are on the low-end of the power scale, they die more easily, and ironically many of the offices instituted to eliminate them make Gehenna come even quicker.

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In Noddist mythology, Gehenna is the Kindred eschaton. It is the time when the Antediluvians will rise from their slumbers and devour their descendants.
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#138: June 21, 2020, 11:12:55 PM
From Maria Bamford’s Netflix series, the same one that shows the scarlet female cabal using Hollywood to resurrect their underground hive-queen. Here’s a transcript of another scene, until I can post the clip. When they take over her show:

Producer Character: “We’re gonna tone down the whole mental illness part of the show... ‘Oh boo-hoo, I’m cuckoo!’ It’s a bummer, Maria, and it’s really making America uncomfortable. Besides, all of the mental health issues, they were covered by Monk. Done. Shalhoub, shalom! You know?”

Maria Bamford: “Okay, well, that was... Wasn’t that the main reason for my entire show?”

Producer: “Well, now the main reason is to restart the sun.
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#139: June 21, 2020, 11:31:28 PM
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”Led by Quetzalcóatl, gods sought to get the Sun onto the sky to make it shine through the darkness and the cold, to make life exist. The main candidate for becoming the Sun was the wealthy, yet arrogant god Tecuciztécatl. He made pretentious sacrifices, and was expected to run jump into a bonfire to sacrifice himself and become the Sun. However, not even after four allowed attempts was he able to do it, as he was too coward. He was therefore “substituted” by Nanahuatzin who not only had a pockmarked face, but was also poor and made sacrificial offerings of small value.

”After Tecuciztécatl’s failure, [Nanahuatzin] bravely leaped into the flames and turned into the Sun. In that very moment, Tecuciztécatl also took his courage and jumped into the fire – and appeared in the sky as the second Sun. Two rival celestial bodies were shining in the sky with same brightness. And it is the existence of two rival celestial bodies that, as we will see further, is an important motif of the Maya and, in particular, Lacandon mythology, as well as the need to subsequently eliminate one of them. In the Central Mexican cosmological story, one of the angry gods threw a rabbit in the face of the coward Tecuciztécatl, causing him to lose his brilliance. Tecuciztécatl thus became the false Sun with weak brilliance – the Moon.”


Year of clarity, year of increased brightness. If the Moon is revived there would be no night.
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#140: June 21, 2020, 11:51:29 PM
Ancient Taiwanese account:

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As in the case of the sun and the formerly more lustrous moon, the two suns by taking turns were sometimes held accountable for the creation of an everlasting day. Apart from their memory of a day of six months followed by a night of six months, the Atayal (northern Taiwan) also passed on a tradition about a pair of suns preventing any darkness from penetrating:

Once upon a time there were two suns in the sky. When one sun set in the west, the other rose in the East, and there was no night on earth. The strong heat from the suns dried up all rivers. Fishes could not live, grass and trees died, birds and animals were not able to survive. Human beings became restless. They could not find food, lived in misery and suffered in the extreme.
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Another version adds the detail that “One of the suns was much larger than the one we see today, and it caused the weather to be extremely hot.”

Terraforming, too.
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#141: June 22, 2020, 07:34:07 AM
Do real vampires lack the “shade” from The Magicians?
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#142: June 27, 2020, 10:37:42 PM
Did you know if you search "vampire" on Apmex the first NINE results are for silver bullets?

And, in fact, 11/12 results are for silver bullets?
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#143: June 28, 2020, 02:33:59 AM
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Did you know if you search "vampire" on Apmex the first NINE results are for silver bullets?

And, in fact, 11/12 results are for silver bullets?

I did not thank you that's another one of those wonderfully unique contributions only you would have brought here
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Im sorry for withholding this...
#144: June 28, 2020, 02:34:19 AM
The implications of that are of course horrible though
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#145: June 28, 2020, 04:37:09 AM
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The implications of that are of course horrible though

So does silver actually harm vampires? If so, then why? Are the implications that someone (government? Private groups?) is suited to at least harm vampires if not kill them efficiently?
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#146: June 28, 2020, 06:43:06 AM
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The implications of that are of course horrible though

So does silver actually harm vampires? If so, then why? Are the implications that someone (government? Private groups?) is suited to at least harm vampires if not kill them efficiently?

Its primary use isn't against vampires actually but it'll hurt them it's not going to kill them though
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#147: June 28, 2020, 08:27:53 AM
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The implications of that are of course horrible though

So does silver actually harm vampires? If so, then why? Are the implications that someone (government? Private groups?) is suited to at least harm vampires if not kill them efficiently?

Its primary use isn't against vampires actually but it'll hurt them it's not going to kill them though

Is it's primary use against 'werewolves' then? I remember you said this about them:

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So, like I was saying about "werewolves" their are some among us who control the wolf, as the spirittrain chronicles terms it, for example, their descendants arrived with out moon.

But with that in mind I'm not sure if the notion of silver harming them like modern media/fiction claims is accurate.

Who or what else would silver (specifically bullets) harm? Do they really have that much silver at their disposal that they can literally shoot it away and weaponize it?
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#148: June 28, 2020, 12:29:36 PM
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The implications of that are of course horrible though

So does silver actually harm vampires? If so, then why? Are the implications that someone (government? Private groups?) is suited to at least harm vampires if not kill them efficiently?

Its primary use isn't against vampires actually but it'll hurt them it's not going to kill them though

Is it's primary use against 'werewolves' then? I remember you said this about them:

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So, like I was saying about "werewolves" their are some among us who control the wolf, as the spirittrain chronicles terms it, for example, their descendants arrived with out moon.

But with that in mind I'm not sure if the notion of silver harming them like modern media/fiction claims is accurate.

Who or what else would silver (specifically bullets) harm? Do they really have that much silver at their disposal that they can literally shoot it away and weaponize it?

Over half the silver in the world is sitting in landfills so yes...

Also not were wolves
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#149: June 30, 2020, 12:46:31 AM
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Curiously, the image of the terrible divinity, or rather, the Gorgon, was not represented as free to come and go as she liked. Like the Minotaur of Daedalus, the artist portrayed her chained to the middle of the labyrinth, with thick spiral cords. On the upper half she is held by the right arm, menacingly raised with the palm open. In the lower part, there are two laterally engraved cords, held doubly secure below the feet. Who kept her in that robust prison? What sacrifices was she offered to pacify her and to deserve her favors?
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... one can presume that the victim’s blood ran through an orifice in the floor, dripping over the frightening image of the Gorgon. Tello states that the victim’s blood trickled down the front of the “Lanzón.” On that side there are two deeply engraved parallel grooves in the rock which, according to the archaeologist, were used to convey the blood from the sacrificial room down to a circular depression, as if it were the third eye of the Gorgon. This depression is located in the middle of a cross engraved on top of the idol’s head. The arrangement of the double grooves, states Tello, allowed the recently sacrificed victim’s blood to go directly into the mouth of the great divinity...

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On the standing stones as: Raimondi stele, Tello obelisk, and many others, as well as on the sacred pillar of Lanzón, the apocalyptic gods were “enchained”. The Palace of Chavín, in its time, was the most important oracle and religious center, not only in the Andean region, but in all South America. Chavín was comparable to Delphi and possibly was founded as a copy of it. Obviously, all these sacred stones received blood sacrifices, as the blood of sacrifices offered to massebáh (standing stones in Semitic shrines and temples) and bethels (sacred pillars) by Canaanites.

The Lanzón, with the chained image of Gorgon on it, was the principal deity of the “Old Temple”, but, the much larger “New Temple”, with the Black and White portal and two cylindrical columns of granite, identified as the Palace of Hades, probably gave the name – Chavín – to the entire palace. Which is most surprising, its name is not of Greek origin. As we shall see, the toponymy of places near Chavín, with remains of old monuments, as well as the same name Chavín, indicate a Semitic or Canaanite origin.

The “New temple” was probably constructed to maintain “chained” the most feared new god -- without any representation -- the almighty Baal-Shamem, which means “Lord of Heavens”, also spelled Shamen, Shamim or Shamin. The Quechua words are without the letters b, c, d, g, v, x and z. so, Baal could not be spelled in Quechua, and was lost.
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