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#15: April 15, 2020, 01:35:38 AM
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So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#16: April 15, 2020, 04:37:17 AM
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So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?
In the electric universe theories and in mythologies, its said that Saturn was the original Sun.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#17: April 15, 2020, 04:59:41 AM
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So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?

Darkness is the natural state of things and last I checked, Saturn doesn't give off light in the same sense the Sun does.
The Sun is a portal (circling the square) and brings in energy from another source into our reality, which would otherwise be dark. That sounds like Lucifer to me.
Earth didn't always have light on it but when Lucifer brought it and the light fell, our 'place' was made on this density, casting out the original inhabitants of Earth for a time.

Earth is the bottom of the 'scale' while the Sun is somewhere above it. All light (and as a result, all things period) that exists 'here' had to fall to get here.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?
In the electric universe theories and in mythologies, its said that Saturn was the original Sun.

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"As for saturn it was never the sun. the sun is the opposite of saturn,
where light forever radiates. saturn is the yang to the suns yin. the
corrupted notion of Jesus and lucifer being brothers comes from the
polarity of the sun and moon."
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#19: April 15, 2020, 12:16:38 PM
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So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?
In the electric universe theories and in mythologies, its said that Saturn was the original Sun.

Old Nick quote:

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"As for saturn it was never the sun. the sun is the opposite of saturn,
where light forever radiates. saturn is the yang to the suns yin. the
corrupted notion of Jesus and lucifer being brothers comes from the
polarity of the sun and moon."
so for the full insight into the way people ysed to regard Saturn as sort of tge source of light in antiquity i recommend to watch the video..

This is important to the origin if the cos and also in terms of how they regard themselves

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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#20: April 15, 2020, 02:05:58 PM
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This is important to the origin if the cos and also in terms of how they regard themselves

season 2 of Maria Bamford’s Netflix series, when her character’s tv show is taken over by occult producers who change the entire show’s premise, Maria asks someone “hey, why is my show completely different?” They say “because we’re trying to restart the sun.” It’s inserted like a surreal response-joke but it’s 100% literal.

Another episode has Maria brought into parody-Netflix’s board room. It’s full of A-list actresses like Meryl Streep and Angelina Jolie, who reveal they are members of an ancient priesthood and that “Hollywood” only exists as a way to gather energy to summon their “Hive-Queen Ranlith” from her prison deep within the earth’s core.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#21: April 15, 2020, 04:25:20 PM
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So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?
In the electric universe theories and in mythologies, its said that Saturn was the original Sun.

Old Nick quote:

Quote
"As for saturn it was never the sun. the sun is the opposite of saturn,
where light forever radiates. saturn is the yang to the suns yin. the
corrupted notion of Jesus and lucifer being brothers comes from the
polarity of the sun and moon."
so for the full insight into the way people ysed to regard Saturn as sort of tge source of light in antiquity i recommend to watch the video..

This is important to the origin if the cos and also in terms of how they regard themselves

So Zepehr elaborates on what we have already discussed here frequently, that all the gods are divided, personified aspects of one force.
He also points out how apparently Jesus prayed to Helios, which is Saturn. Makes sense because Jesus/Lucifer/Zeus/Jupiter is the son of Saturn/Cronus/Helios. That's really all the video went over, to generalize.
I still feel the video left out quite a bit of the more 'meaty' things but what it did touch on is very important.
So to go back to Nick's old quote and in relation to what was discussed in the video, Saturn is supposed to be the opposite of the literal Sun. Light radiates from one while the other, darkness.
I think that now though, Saturn's role as the opposite of the Sun is usurped by the artificial Moon since that's what most people tend to focus on now.

And even though Saturn may have had it's spotlight taken by the Sun that shines light, it's still the one with the most control.
The main people who worship Saturn do it because darkness is the natural state of things and existed 'before' the light did. That may be the case but our 'souls' aren't of darkness but of light. Quite literally, it's in the name 'soul'. Think 'Dayman', 'ruler of darkness and master of light'.
Even with that, Creator isn't 'light' or 'dark' since both are just different forms of energy.
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Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#22: April 15, 2020, 07:00:09 PM
 "Helios is seen as both a personification of the Sun and the fundamental creative power behind it[11] and as a result is often worshiped as a god of life and creation. Homer described Helios as a god "who gives joy to mortals"[12] and other ancient texts give him the epithet "gracious" (ἱλαρός), given that he is the source of life and regeneration and associated with the creation of the world. One passage recorded in the Greek Magical Papyri says of Helios, "the earth flourished when you shone forth and made the plants fruitful when you laughed and brought to life the living creatures when you permitted."

 In many of the Papyri, Helios is also strongly identified with Iao, a name derived from that of the Hebrew god Yahweh, and shares several of his titles including Sabaoth and Adonai.[8] He is also assimilated as the Agathos Daemon (called "the Agathodaimon, the god of the gods"), who is also identified elsewhere in the texts as "the greatest god, lord Horus Harpokrates".[8]

Diodorus Siculus of Sicily reported that the Chaldeans called Cronus (Saturn) by the name Helios, or the sun, and he explained that this was because Saturn was the most conspicuous of the planets. Helios was also known as Sol.
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Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#23: April 15, 2020, 07:04:34 PM
so the different planets and stars all project a different degree of "light"? and this light is what creates this "illusory" reality? but it's all coming from the same source?
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#24: April 16, 2020, 04:20:46 AM
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so the different planets and stars all project a different degree of "light"? and this light is what creates this "illusory" reality? but it's all coming from the same source?

I think light is synonymous with energy, but I'd probably say they all have a different 'energy signature'.  That energy spans the full gamut of the electromagnetic spectrum.  Energy being the manifestation of cosmic consciousness in this physical realm (we perceive it as energy from within this space-time construct).  It all comes from the Great Mind, which springs from one source.

So yes, I reckon you're right.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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so the different planets and stars all project a different degree of "light"? and this light is what creates this "illusory" reality? but it's all coming from the same source?

I think light is synonymous with energy, but I'd probably say they all have a different 'energy signature'.  That energy spans the full gamut of the electromagnetic spectrum.  Energy being the manifestation of cosmic consciousness in this physical realm (we perceive it as energy from within this space-time construct).  It all comes from the Great Mind, which springs from one source.

So yes, I reckon you're right.

Without light, colors and shapes wouldn't exist.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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Without light nothing would exist
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#27: April 16, 2020, 05:24:58 PM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

If you don't directly see it yourself, what makes you think that it is there? What makes you think that there was even something there where you think it should be the last moment you perceived it?

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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

This is where it becomes useful to have a basic understanding of how your Vision Works. If you notice people often refer to Darkness as the formless void prior to the creation of the universe because light literally gives physical form to matter in particle and wave form
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