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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"

becoming conscious is the entire point. "waking up"
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"

becoming conscious is the entire point. "waking up"

Then what is the difference between those unconscious, those who are conscious,  and those "real" who are from outside the "simulation" or "dream" or whatever more accurate term?
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#273: July 31, 2020, 09:24:28 PM
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"

becoming conscious is the entire point. "waking up"

Then what is the difference between those unconscious, those who are conscious,  and those "real" who are from outside the "simulation" or "dream" or whatever more accurate term?

Conscious comes from the Latin meaning to be privy to so it's an entirely subjective term. You have to be more specific with your inquiry
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#274: August 01, 2020, 06:20:30 AM
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Nick replied with the bible. It still has not been elaborated (not in this context) on what the bible actually reveals to someone who can see what its truly conveying.

Neville Goddard.

Read from Neville's perspective, the bible and "the enlightnment pdf" are one and the same.

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When I tell you the Bible is your biography, I am actually saying that you are God, and I mean it. We are told in the 82nd Psalm: "I say, 'You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; nevertheless, you shall die like men, and fall like any prince." So I mean exactly what the psalmist said: that you are gods.

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I am not speaking from theory tonight; I am speaking from experience. I tell you the story is true from beginning to end, and if I cannot stand here before you and demonstrate for your own satisfaction the might that is God, it is only because I am still wearing this garment of flesh. And so as long as I am wearing it, the glory of the heavenly inheritance cannot be actualized by me, or at least is not fully realized in me while I wear and continue to wear this garment of flesh. But everything said in the Bible I have experienced. I have experienced the depths of my soul and it is all true from beginning to end.

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God is real. You may not question it - I don't - but in 1963, the scientific world would question it. I don't know all the uses of the word, "God," but I like it. But if it will help you any, I use the word I use most: "imagination," because to me when I think of God I mean the same as when I say "divine imagination." When I speak of Christ I mean divine imagining, God in action. We are told: "God is Christ reconciling the world to himself." Imagining is Christ, which is God in action. So imagination in Christ with his imagination, imagining, is reconciling the whole vast world to himself. But if it offends you, go back to the word, "God," but don't put God on the outside of something separated from you, because he is not.

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Neville Goddard has pronounced clearly that all characters in the Bible did not exist and it was written in a symbolic manner as a psychological drama.
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When you KNOW and I really mean KNOW not just intellectual understanding but KNOW that you are God, you can change / create your own reality. Neville calls this "FAITH". He calls the entire thing "The LAW"

So I wonder..Key 1... faith said "we are REAL HUMANS" are these not just people who fully understand "The LAW".

You control your world by controlling your subconscious beliefs by entering a state similar to AP, they call it SATS or "state akin to sleep" the hypnogogic state before sleep. When you are there you imagine your desires as if you already own them, creating belief, and that belief manifests in reality.

Already I personally have manifested wealth, healed a part of my body, and caused changes in other peoples personalities.

What I don't understand is how we all share the same reality if we are all "just one mind" furthermore I can't find anyone who admits to manifesting all the bad shit that happens in life either.

Do you think that, when you dream, your dream characters ever wonder if they are part of the same being? Do you think your nightmares come from some one other than you?

I think in dreams I am just the observer. I'm not sure whether dreams are unconscious AP or just a pantomine inside my consciousness. I don't know about nightmares because I never have them. I used to when I was a kid where I was hunted down by something unseen but terrifying on a wide plain/field and I've found deep meditation takes me to the same "field" but without the entity..
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#275: August 02, 2020, 12:14:53 AM
so at the beginning of this age the elite consensus was to focus on the physical manifestation of christ.

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this video details the theory of a bloody coverup.

the coverup was the spuritual aspects of Christ as well as the connection of christ to horus or dionysus and anyone who affirmed these thoughts was killed.

i buy it.

we dont have any collective memory of these things and now here we are... a civilization focused so much on the physical that people would rather turn themselces into a computer then exercise their god given spiritual abilities.

so why this thread?

i think i solved the riddle and found the book of lock and key.

it is this focus on the physical again. that physically a key will open the lock.

the coverup is under lock and key and only a physical key will open the door.

well that is the book that hhe elites are selling anyway :)

am i close?
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#276: August 02, 2020, 12:51:27 AM
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so at the beginning of this age the elite consensus was to focus on the physical manifestation of christ.

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this video details the theory of a bloody coverup.

the coverup was the spuritual aspects of Christ as well as the connection of christ to horus or dionysus and anyone who affirmed these thoughts was killed.

i buy it.

we dont have any collective memory of these things and now here we are... a civilization focused so much on the physical that people would rather turn themselces into a computer then exercise their god given spiritual abilities.

so why this thread?

i think i solved the riddle and found the book of lock and key.

it is this focus on the physical again. that physically a key will open the lock.

the coverup is under lock and key and only a physical key will open the door.

well that is the book that hhe elites are selling anyway :)

am i close?

Are you referring to 'christ' as 'Jesus' (an aspect of Lucifer) or 'christ' as in 'the anointed one'?. If Lucifer was supposed to be coming back (in some form) to clean up Saturn's turf in 2020 then the El ites would probably pay some attention to it.

The elites who inherently associated with Saturn (its in the name, literally) are a 'dying race' were they feed on 'their children' and the kids of others to sustain their wheel of imbalance.

Nick said in the old Key#1 thread that when we figure out what the book is, we won't be asking him we will be telling him.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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so at the beginning of this age the elite consensus was to focus on the physical manifestation of christ.

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this video details the theory of a bloody coverup.

the coverup was the spuritual aspects of Christ as well as the connection of christ to horus or dionysus and anyone who affirmed these thoughts was killed.

i buy it.

we dont have any collective memory of these things and now here we are... a civilization focused so much on the physical that people would rather turn themselces into a computer then exercise their god given spiritual abilities.

so why this thread?

i think i solved the riddle and found the book of lock and key.

it is this focus on the physical again. that physically a key will open the lock.

the coverup is under lock and key and only a physical key will open the door.

well that is the book that hhe elites are selling anyway :)

am i close?

Are you referring to 'christ' as 'Jesus' (an aspect of Lucifer) or 'christ' as in 'the anointed one'?. If Lucifer was supposed to be coming back (in some form) to clean up Saturn's turf in 2020 then the El ites would probably pay some attention to it.

The elites who inherently associated with Saturn (its in the name, literally) are a 'dying race' were they feed on 'their children' and the kids of others to sustain their wheel of imbalance.

Nick said in the old Key#1 thread that when we figure out what the book is, we won't be asking him we will be telling him.

i am talking about a physical incarnation of Christ.
you know the one that Catholics affirm in the Nicean crede.

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Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#278: August 02, 2020, 01:56:02 AM
A physical presence matches what some ancients theorized about Harpocrates.

Who The Heck is Harpocrates and Why is He “Really” Jesus?

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Augustine, City of God, book 18, chapter 5, (late 4th century) mentioning the statue of Harpocrates with a finger at his lips:

“… since in every temple where Isis and Serapis [Osiris/Hades] were worshipped there was also an image which, with finger pressed on the lips, seemed to warn men to keep silence, Varro thinks this signifies that it should be kept secret that they had been human.“

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Plutarch, “Isis and Osiris”, from his Moralia, ca. 100 AD:

Ch. 68. (378C): “And Harpocrates is not to be regarded as an imperfect and an infant god, nor some deity or other that protects legumes, but as the representative and corrector of unseasoned, imperfect, and inarticulate reasoning about the gods among mankind. For this reason he keeps his finger on his lips in token of restrained speech or silence. In the month of Mesorê they bring to him an offering of legumes and say, “The tongue is luck, the tongue is god.”“
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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A physical presence matches what some ancients theorized about Harpocrates.

Who The Heck is Harpocrates and Why is He “Really” Jesus?

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Augustine, City of God, book 18, chapter 5, (late 4th century) mentioning the statue of Harpocrates with a finger at his lips:

“… since in every temple where Isis and Serapis [Osiris/Hades] were worshipped there was also an image which, with finger pressed on the lips, seemed to warn men to keep silence, Varro thinks this signifies that it should be kept secret that they had been human.“

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Plutarch, “Isis and Osiris”, from his Moralia, ca. 100 AD:

Ch. 68. (378C): “And Harpocrates is not to be regarded as an imperfect and an infant god, nor some deity or other that protects legumes, but as the representative and corrector of unseasoned, imperfect, and inarticulate reasoning about the gods among mankind. For this reason he keeps his finger on his lips in token of restrained speech or silence. In the month of Mesorê they bring to him an offering of legumes and say, “The tongue is luck, the tongue is god.”“
yes this is covered in the vid in the post above thank you.

i mean, everyone here has seen zeitgeist right?
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i mean, everyone here has seen zeitgeist right?

I’ve not! Right up my alley though, thanks.
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i mean, everyone here has seen zeitgeist right?

I’ve not! Right up my alley though, thanks.

oh yea and around here where everybody naturally puts the old deities together i figure everyone is sort of on the same page.

so zeitgeist oart 1 gets deep into 911 but it also compares all the christlike deities accross time and culture.

that timeline video above brjngs it together to show that the romans killed anyone who would compare their joshua with any other spiritual breatheren.

they then proceed to emphasize that Christ is a teal physical person.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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so at the beginning of this age the elite consensus was to focus on the physical manifestation of christ.

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this video details the theory of a bloody coverup.

the coverup was the spuritual aspects of Christ as well as the connection of christ to horus or dionysus and anyone who affirmed these thoughts was killed.

i buy it.

we dont have any collective memory of these things and now here we are... a civilization focused so much on the physical that people would rather turn themselces into a computer then exercise their god given spiritual abilities.

so why this thread?

i think i solved the riddle and found the book of lock and key.

it is this focus on the physical again. that physically a key will open the lock.

the coverup is under lock and key and only a physical key will open the door.

well that is the book that hhe elites are selling anyway :)

am i close?

Honestly I think you might be but I want you to expand on it a little more after all Christ is in the details as the saying goes
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"

becoming conscious is the entire point. "waking up"

Then what is the difference between those unconscious, those who are conscious,  and those "real" who are from outside the "simulation" or "dream" or whatever more accurate term?

Conscious comes from the Latin meaning to be privy to so it's an entirely subjective term. You have to be more specific with your inquiry

I suppose what my main question is, is what makes a person 'real' as opposed to an npc, or organic portal, or whichever term you use. I don't know the specific term to use because I don't know the specifics myself. Is the only difference that one doesn't have access to higher chakras, or are there more differences?  When someone else describes them as "unconscious automatons" that makes it sound like they are unthinking machines that aren't even self-aware, but I don't think the difference is that severe? I am sure if I was ascended, I'd be able to see for myself but I am not there yet.
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"

becoming conscious is the entire point. "waking up"

Then what is the difference between those unconscious, those who are conscious,  and those "real" who are from outside the "simulation" or "dream" or whatever more accurate term?

Conscious comes from the Latin meaning to be privy to so it's an entirely subjective term. You have to be more specific with your inquiry

I suppose what my main question is, is what makes a person 'real' as opposed to an npc, or organic portal, or whichever term you use. I don't know the specific term to use because I don't know the specifics myself. Is the only difference that one doesn't have access to higher chakras, or are there more differences?  When someone else describes them as "unconscious automatons" that makes it sound like they are unthinking machines that aren't even self-aware, but I don't think the difference is that severe? I am sure if I was ascended, I'd be able to see for myself but I am not there yet.

I recommend that you watch Westworld, the HBO tv show. It's exactly about what you're talking about. Basically, or at least to my understanding, consciousness is like a spiral that goes inwards, an by looking within, you "wake up", by realizing that the voice in your mind is "the real you"
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