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Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#30: April 16, 2020, 09:32:22 PM
Two things regarding this thread for me

- dark matter - it exists but you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exis tho

- can't help but think of Saturn's rings as a natural particle accelerator like CERN but obviously CERN is the technological therefore lowkey version
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Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#31: April 16, 2020, 09:48:47 PM
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Two things regarding this thread for me

- dark matter - it exists but you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exis tho

- can't help but think of Saturn's rings as a natural particle accelerator like CERN but obviously CERN is the technological therefore lowkey version

I'm actually surprised no one brought these up before. The wings serve two purposes centrifugal and centripetal force and containment
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#32: April 16, 2020, 09:55:54 PM
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Two things regarding this thread for me

- dark matter - it exists but you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exis tho

- can't help but think of Saturn's rings as a natural particle accelerator like CERN but obviously CERN is the technological therefore lowkey version

I'm actually surprised no one brought these up before. The wings serve two purposes centrifugal and centripetal force and containment

What (or who) is being contained? Is 'Saturn' itself a giant vessel of sorts that many other vessels can exist in across multiple levels/densities?
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#33: April 16, 2020, 11:48:47 PM
My guess is that in the music of the spheres Saturn creates (force) the music and the spheres form and keeps them in a certain place (containment) so they overlap in certain ways?
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#34: April 17, 2020, 03:03:53 AM
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Two things regarding this thread for me

- dark matter - it exists but you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exis tho

- can't help but think of Saturn's rings as a natural particle accelerator like CERN but obviously CERN is the technological therefore lowkey version

I'm actually surprised no one brought these up before. The wings serve two purposes centrifugal and centripetal force and containment

What (or who) is being contained? Is 'Saturn' itself a giant vessel of sorts that many other vessels can exist in across multiple levels/densities?


Like a tornado.


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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#35: April 17, 2020, 03:05:04 AM
Dark matter is the etheric realm bleeding through.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#36: April 17, 2020, 03:20:29 AM
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Dark matter is the etheric realm bleeding through.

So 'scientists' are supposedly in search of and are willing to pay stupid amounts of currency for energy before its formed by light? If that is the case, wouldn't it make sense they make deals with the previous, formless dark lords that ruled this world and eventually be lead to create the technology used to allow them to enter?

They form deals with the dark ones for the formless energy then make another deal with Lucifer for the technology and ability to use the light to mold it to what 'they' desire(?)

Seems awful tedious and costly to a being who could do all this just by thinking and willing things into creation.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#37: April 17, 2020, 04:03:19 AM
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Dark matter is the etheric realm bleeding through.

So 'scientists' are supposedly in search of and are willing to pay stupid amounts of currency for energy before its formed by light? If that is the case, wouldn't it make sense they make deals with the previous, formless dark lords that ruled this world and eventually be lead to create the technology used to allow them to enter?

They form deals with the dark ones for the formless energy then make another deal with Lucifer for the technology and ability to use the light to mold it to what 'they' desire(?)

Seems awful tedious and costly to a being who could do all this just by thinking and willing things into creation.

Dark matter is ostensibly the variable needed to balance an otherwise unbalanced equation. That's why it was theorized by physicists. Someone please correct me if I am mistaken.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#38: April 17, 2020, 06:29:27 AM
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Dark matter is the etheric realm bleeding through.

So 'scientists' are supposedly in search of and are willing to pay stupid amounts of currency for energy before its formed by light? If that is the case, wouldn't it make sense they make deals with the previous, formless dark lords that ruled this world and eventually be lead to create the technology used to allow them to enter?

They form deals with the dark ones for the formless energy then make another deal with Lucifer for the technology and ability to use the light to mold it to what 'they' desire(?)

Seems awful tedious and costly to a being who could do all this just by thinking and willing things into creation.

Dark matter is ostensibly the variable needed to balance an otherwise unbalanced equation. That's why it was theorized by physicists. Someone please correct me if I am mistaken.

I think you're correct.  They did a calculation of the mass of the known Universe and found there wasn't enough visible matter to account it.  Or something like that.  So to save their ideas of gravity and relativity, they made up 'dark matter'.  They fixed a hole in the sock, but the sock doesn't fit anyway.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#39: April 17, 2020, 06:34:07 AM
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so the different planets and stars all project a different degree of "light"? and this light is what creates this "illusory" reality? but it's all coming from the same source?

I think light is synonymous with energy, but I'd probably say they all have a different 'energy signature'.  That energy spans the full gamut of the electromagnetic spectrum.  Energy being the manifestation of cosmic consciousness in this physical realm (we perceive it as energy from within this space-time construct).  It all comes from the Great Mind, which springs from one source.

So yes, I reckon you're right.

Without light, colors and shapes wouldn't exist.

The energy forms would still be there, we just wouldn't see them.  The tree exists, but what we see of the tree is just the light it reflects.

But I think light itself has to exist, just like all the other forms of energy, or we wouldn't have any existence at all.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#40: April 17, 2020, 06:41:55 AM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

If you don't directly see it yourself, what makes you think that it is there? What makes you think that there was even something there where you think it should be the last moment you perceived it?

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I can see where you're coming from, but this is skirting close to thinking the whole of reality is there just because you perceive it.  Or is not there if you don't perceive it.

Then of course if you don't perceive it, you can't know it's there, even if it is there in some form, unperceived.  Lol.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#41: April 17, 2020, 11:32:47 AM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

If you don't directly see it yourself, what makes you think that it is there? What makes you think that there was even something there where you think it should be the last moment you perceived it?

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I can see where you're coming from, but this is skirting close to thinking the whole of reality is there just because you perceive it.  Or is not there if you don't perceive it.

Then of course if you don't perceive it, you can't know it's there, even if it is there in some form, unperceived.  Lol.


Be careful not to conflate light itself with the perception of visible light.
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#42: April 17, 2020, 11:45:17 PM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

If you don't directly see it yourself, what makes you think that it is there? What makes you think that there was even something there where you think it should be the last moment you perceived it?

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I can see where you're coming from, but this is skirting close to thinking the whole of reality is there just because you perceive it.  Or is not there if you don't perceive it.

Then of course if you don't perceive it, you can't know it's there, even if it is there in some form, unperceived.  Lol.


Be careful not to conflate light itself with the perception of visible light.

Or vice versa. 
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Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#43: April 18, 2020, 12:47:19 AM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

If you don't directly see it yourself, what makes you think that it is there? What makes you think that there was even something there where you think it should be the last moment you perceived it?

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I can see where you're coming from, but this is skirting close to thinking the whole of reality is there just because you perceive it.  Or is not there if you don't perceive it.

Then of course if you don't perceive it, you can't know it's there, even if it is there in some form, unperceived.  Lol.


Be careful not to conflate light itself with the perception of visible light.

Or vice versa.

Another common conflation is light itself with the bringer of it.
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Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
#44: April 18, 2020, 04:24:16 AM
How would one describe light itself?  Are we talking about photons that travel invisibly, until they hit or interact with something?  If it's invisible, is it light?  Or is it only light when it is visible?

Isn't light just the effect of an invisible process?
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