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without light plants wouldn't exist, which would make it impossible for there to be a breathable atmosphere and organic living ecosystems. Also, since plants energy production is fueled directly from light and water, and this energy is then transmitted within the food chain, then that would mean all you're consuming when eating is processed "light"

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without light plants wouldn't exist, which would make it impossible for there to be a breathable atmosphere and organic living ecosystems. Also, since plants energy production is fueled directly from light and water, and this energy is then transmitted within the food chain, then that would mean all you're consuming when eating is processed "light"

It's not just processed light/energy.  The light enables the plant to utilise water, minerals and chemicals/gases  in the soil and atmosphere to build itself.  Photosynthesis.

But is light itself visible?  What is it before it is visible?  While the energy that becomes light travels through space, it can't be seen until it strikes something.  I think the distinction is important. 

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without light plants wouldn't exist, which would make it impossible for there to be a breathable atmosphere and organic living ecosystems. Also, since plants energy production is fueled directly from light and water, and this energy is then transmitted within the food chain, then that would mean all you're consuming when eating is processed "light"

It's not just processed light/energy.  The light enables the plant to utilise water, minerals and chemicals/gases  in the soil and atmosphere to build itself.  Photosynthesis.

But is light itself visible?  What is it before it is visible?  While the energy that becomes light travels through space, it can't be seen until it strikes something.  I think the distinction is important.

I mean, that is quite simply the dual nature of light, being a wave and a particle, which was demonstrated by the dual slit experiment, where the observer had an effect in the behavior of the light particle, simply by watching it. this implies that if no one is there to see, then light stays in wave form in a field of probability, and just by looking it becomes corporeal. this implies that it works similar to a video game, in that it's just data that continually renderizes by exploring different areas, and in this analogy, the light would be like the electricity that powers the console, without it, you can't play
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How would one describe light itself?  Are we talking about photons that travel invisibly, until they hit or interact with something?  If it's invisible, is it light?  Or is it only light when it is visible?

Isn't light just the effect of an invisible process?

At its base, it is electromagnetic radiation, i.e. the vibratory action of essence (electric) and potential (magnetic). Motion itself. Our vestigial eyes are receptive only to the most readily available physical light. The middle C of the electromagnetic spectrum. Walter Russell wrote a whole book about it: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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without light plants wouldn't exist, which would make it impossible for there to be a breathable atmosphere and organic living ecosystems. Also, since plants energy production is fueled directly from light and water, and this energy is then transmitted within the food chain, then that would mean all you're consuming when eating is processed "light"

It's not just processed light/energy.  The light enables the plant to utilise water, minerals and chemicals/gases  in the soil and atmosphere to build itself.  Photosynthesis.

But is light itself visible?  What is it before it is visible?  While the energy that becomes light travels through space, it can't be seen until it strikes something.  I think the distinction is important.

I mean, that is quite simply the dual nature of light, being a wave and a particle, which was demonstrated by the dual slit experiment, where the observer had an effect in the behavior of the light particle, simply by watching it. this implies that if no one is there to see, then light stays in wave form in a field of probability, and just by looking it becomes corporeal. this implies that it works similar to a video game, in that it's just data that continually renderizes by exploring different areas, and in this analogy, the light would be like the electricity that powers the console, without it, you can't play

The concept of a 'dual nature' of light is an idea generated by our prior perceptions and assumptions of solidity.  There are no particles, as in solid bits, that's an illusion.  There are no 'waves' as understood either.  It's a singular phenomenon, we might call a 'wavicle'.  It has the properties of both wave and particle if looked for, but it's neither.  It's more like tiny vortices of energy, set up by interference to the 'flow' of the energy behind light.  The light generated is an effect of this.

The observer has an effect on the outcome depending on which way they are looking/testing, but that decision doesn't change anything about light itself.  That's an illusion the scientists believe, because they can't comprehend it any other way.  That's my understanding of it, anyway. 

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How would one describe light itself?  Are we talking about photons that travel invisibly, until they hit or interact with something?  If it's invisible, is it light?  Or is it only light when it is visible?

Isn't light just the effect of an invisible process?

At its base, it is electromagnetic radiation, i.e. the vibratory action of essence (electric) and potential (magnetic). Motion itself. Our vestigial eyes are receptive only to the most readily available physical light. The middle C of the electromagnetic spectrum. Walter Russell wrote a whole book about it: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

I agree with this.  Everything is electromagnetic radiation, even down to 'solidity' as we see it.  A sliding scale.  Turn on an electrical element and it will first begin to heat up.  Pretty soon it then begins to emit heat waves.  Further excitation has it emitting infra-red as the energy goes up in vibration.  Then it begins to glow red as it starts to emit waves our eyes can detect.  And so on.  If it's possible to keep raising the energy the solid element will become plasma eventually.

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Tell me what is "balanced" in nature.  There is a STRUGGLE for balance however

The flower of life is balanced.

Symmetry is not balance
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"Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"

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Tell me what is "balanced" in nature.  There is a STRUGGLE for balance however


The solar system comes to mind.

A) is the solar system nature
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The imbalance is why we live
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Maybe I'm processing what you shared incorrectly but it made me think of this.

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What if there IS light in pitch black darkness. We just can't see it? We know there's uv, infrared etc. We didn't know about them before they were discovered. So maybe there's a light out there at all times and we just haven't discovered it yet? Maybe that's what the "ether" is.

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What if there IS light in pitch black darkness. We just can't see it? We know there's uv, infrared etc. We didn't know about them before they were discovered. So maybe there's a light out there at all times and we just haven't discovered it yet? Maybe that's what the "ether" is.

It would seem dark always encapsulates light. An example of that would be Saturn, the one with the most control being on the 'outside' of the Sun. The original divide is between light and dark.

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Balance doesn't exist.

Illusion of balance:

Reality:

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So someone cut a ball in half and they try to juggle both parts when they could have just been satisfied with the original whole and unity of it. Who thought this ('wnespicsefomunah' maybe?) would be fun?



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What if there IS light in pitch black darkness. We just can't see it? We know there's uv, infrared etc. We didn't know about them before they were discovered. So maybe there's a light out there at all times and we just haven't discovered it yet? Maybe that's what the "ether" is.

It would seem dark always encapsulates light. An example of that would be Saturn, the one with the most control being on the 'outside' of the Sun. The original divide is between light and dark.

Saturn is the light in the darkness or the “dark star” or the black sun.

That is why it controls the light. Look at the yin/yang gif, who pilots each side? Its opposite, the antithesis.

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What if there IS light in pitch black darkness. We just can't see it? We know there's uv, infrared etc. We didn't know about them before they were discovered. So maybe there's a light out there at all times and we just haven't discovered it yet? Maybe that's what the "ether" is.

It would seem dark always encapsulates light. An example of that would be Saturn, the one with the most control being on the 'outside' of the Sun. The original divide is between light and dark.

Saturn is the light in the darkness or the “dark star” or the black sun.

That is why it controls the light. Look at the yin/yang gif, who pilots each side? Its opposite, the antithesis.

The Sun would be the dark in the light then(lol?)

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The Sun would be the dark in the light then(lol?)

Yep. Rather in that analogy, if Saturn is the dark in the light, the Sun would be reversed, the light in the dark. The sun/planets aren’t the light they’re the carriers of the light.

Crowley wrote “the khabs are in the khu, not the khu is in the khabs.” The stars are in the light, not the light is in the stars. If light must be split into a spectrum to allow for matter, etc, then the stars/planets are the prisms of darkness that direct the light.
Last Edit: April 19, 2020, 03:32:13 PM by zephyr

 

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