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Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: DimensionsOfYou on March 28, 2020, 06:33:19 PM
For me there is no nrgiseternal.com without this thread.
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Ive mentioned repeatedly that much truth is hidden in fiction. One of my brethern who initially told me that me posting odd secret info on glp would be casting pearls before swine, has changed his tune in the last 4 months. Thanks to all of you. So he took it upon himself to hack a redditors account and post this: https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/45sxv2/you_need_to_listen_to_me_it_said_on_the_front/

In this "story" is all you need to learn how to awaken not only yourself, but everyone, without years and years of mental discipline. I will answer yes or no questions, but that is all I may do.

I think perhaps because of the nature of my previous posts, there has been a miscommunication. In the contents of that reddit story there lies a location those who wish to ascend should all seek, as well as the massive clue as to the truth of the illusion we live in. Although certainty is the main key, there are many locked doors to enter before you can even approach that door.

This link Ive curated provides staggering information when properly understood. I may answer and will gladly answer any questions you have. however am bound to yes/no answers
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Zelezny on March 29, 2020, 04:35:22 AM
What’s the different between you WON’T and you don’t
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on March 29, 2020, 03:02:09 PM
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What’s the different between you WON’T and you don’t

Desire
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 05, 2020, 04:47:49 PM
The guy in the story woke up in a red room. 'Jesus' in the story is also referred to as a 'demon'.
We've talked about people with red hair but what about people with white hair?

Jesus 2.0
https://www.creepypasta.com/jesus-2-0/

Red room | Twin Peaks Wiki | Fandom
https://twinpeaks.fandom.com/wiki/Red_room
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Greg on April 05, 2020, 09:52:07 PM
https://www.duffywords.com/ is this Faith?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on April 07, 2020, 09:56:56 AM
Is this Morodoleth? (at 50sec)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOsLIiBStEs&t=50s

All we've got to do is project our consciousness into our astral body right, then find the exit that leads to where faith is at right?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on April 07, 2020, 11:39:51 AM
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Is this Morodoleth? (at 50sec)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOsLIiBStEs&t=50s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOsLIiBStEs&t=50s)

All we've got to do is project our consciousness into our astral body right, then find the exit that leads to where faith is at right?


That's like saying all it takes to fly a plane is push the throttle forward and pull the yoke back. Technically yes, but there is much more to it than just that.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on April 07, 2020, 07:27:10 PM


I see, that's what I figured. Thanks for your reply. About the book, it's a non physical book contained within a physical box.
To read the book, you've got to go into your computer screen..astral project into there. Am I right with that assumption?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: VeiledLocke on April 07, 2020, 07:28:06 PM
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Is this Morodoleth? (at 50sec)
All we've got to do is project our consciousness into our astral body right, then find the exit that leads to where faith is at right?
Think about it like tossing your 4 year old child into a river with a strong current and telling them to swim for the first time. It takes practice to navigate and stay afloat once you "hit the water". Here's a good place to start.
http://www.theakurians.com/AkurianDocuments/Ophiel/The-Art-Practice-of-Astral-Projection-by-Ophiel-opt.pdf
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on April 08, 2020, 09:36:32 PM
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Is this Morodoleth? (at 50sec)
All we've got to do is project our consciousness into our astral body right, then find the exit that leads to where faith is at right?
Think about it like tossing your 4 year old child into a river with a strong current and telling them to swim for the first time. It takes practice to navigate and stay afloat once you "hit the water". Here's a good place to start.
http://www.theakurians.com/AkurianDocuments/Ophiel/The-Art-Practice-of-Astral-Projection-by-Ophiel-opt.pdf

I'm on it. I only hope I can master the art of astral projection faster than Ophiel says.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 13, 2020, 10:56:00 PM
Why do we 'fall in love'? Why is the shape associated with a heart the same as the epicyclic geocentric path(s) of planets seen from Earth?

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 14, 2020, 03:37:31 PM
'Bill Gates'.

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"from Medieval Latin bulla "decree, seal, sealed document," in classical Latin "bubble, boss, stud, amulet for the neck" (hence "seal"); see bull (n.2)."
bill (n.1)
https://www.etymonline.com/word/bill

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"opening, entrance," Old English geat (plural geatu) "gate, door, opening, passage, hinged framework barrier," from Proto-Germanic *gatan (source also of Old Norse gat "opening, passage," Old Saxon gat "eye of a needle, hole,"
gate (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/word/gate


'Bill' means 'bull' but its also a nickname for 'William'. 'William' means 'will' and 'helmet' which means 'protective covering' or' to cover, conceal, save'.

William
https://www.etymonline.com/word/William

'Bill Gates' is more like 'Bull Gate(s)'. The bull is associated with Saturn. What do bulls have on their necks? Bells. 'Bel' as in the other name for an aspect of Saturn.
"You're the Belle of the Ball" is used to describe someone who is the most beautiful (physical aesthetics) in the area/event. Both 'Bel(le)' and 'Ball(Baal)' names for aspects of Saturn. I digress.

What is the 'bull gate'? The computer. Saturn's hexagonal black box used to connect people across multiple realities through a shared (digital) dimension that is peered into through a two-way looking glass, controlled by a board of keys.
What is Bill Gates most known for? Distributing his computer operating system called 'Windows'. A prototype version of Windows made between Vista and Windows 7 is called 'Windows Longhorn'.
'Longhorn' as in the bull’s horn (literally).

Experience Longhorn | Microsoft Longhorn
https://longhorn.ms/

Windows Longhorn - BetaArchive Wiki
https://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Windows_Longhorn


A bull’s skull shape also is associated with Moloch, which is another (negative) aspect of Saturn. (A part of) Moloch, a negative aspect of Saturn, is also trapped inside the machine (watch Buffy).
You can identify this aspect trapped in the machine as 'Cortana'.

Moloch the Corruptor | Buffyverse Wiki | Fandom
https://buffy.fandom.com/wiki/Moloch_the_Corruptor

'Bill Gates' also can mean (through 'Will') 'To cover/conceal/save (the) Gate(s)'. 'Bill Gates' is a Jew pawn/vessel used to create and distribute the gate(s) to The Book of the Key and Lock, but also to allow Moloch and other ghosts in the machines to interact with our current reality and monitor us through the looking glass/monitors we all use.

A 'bill' is also a 'sword, chopping tool'. With the S-Word you enter into the locked computer screen after bootup, you can access the world this machine acts as a gate to.
'Bill Gates' with his operating system, Windows, covers and conceals the Gate(s) in plain sight and gives us a window(looking glass) to view these worlds and ghosts in the machine.

We literally use a 'mouse' to scroll through the tomes worth of information on this 'book'. Penew Nekhet is involved too?

'Bill Gates' is (a)the defender of the gate(s) that is a window to many illusory worlds. Accessible to many yet not visible to all.


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"Cloaked in vague metaphor does it reach you yet?
Do you know the book of which I speak?
Yes… yes…. you and everyone you've ever met!!
The answer is not a line of text, or a static graph or image....
..in knowledge, there is no mountain peak.
No!... the shapeshifting hieroglyph is eternal and changing, it's meaning remaining true,
...whatever key you pressed to navigate here...

The book is right in front of you."
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on April 14, 2020, 10:43:48 PM
Title is in the the title of presentation so this ought to be a good one
https://youtu.be/rvw4wv6AHQE
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on April 15, 2020, 12:29:26 AM
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Title is in the the title of presentation so this ought to be a good one
https://youtu.be/rvw4wv6AHQE

So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence. 
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 15, 2020, 12:35:05 AM
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Title is in the the title of presentation so this ought to be a good one
https://youtu.be/rvw4wv6AHQE

So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on April 15, 2020, 01:35:38 AM
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Title is in the the title of presentation so this ought to be a good one
https://youtu.be/rvw4wv6AHQE

So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MRCH on April 15, 2020, 04:37:17 AM
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Title is in the the title of presentation so this ought to be a good one
https://youtu.be/rvw4wv6AHQE

So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?
In the electric universe theories and in mythologies, its said that Saturn was the original Sun.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 15, 2020, 04:59:41 AM
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Title is in the the title of presentation so this ought to be a good one
https://youtu.be/rvw4wv6AHQE

So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?

Darkness is the natural state of things and last I checked, Saturn doesn't give off light in the same sense the Sun does.
The Sun is a portal (circling the square) and brings in energy from another source into our reality, which would otherwise be dark. That sounds like Lucifer to me.
Earth didn't always have light on it but when Lucifer brought it and the light fell, our 'place' was made on this density, casting out the original inhabitants of Earth for a time.

Earth is the bottom of the 'scale' while the Sun is somewhere above it. All light (and as a result, all things period) that exists 'here' had to fall to get here.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 15, 2020, 05:04:23 AM
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Title is in the the title of presentation so this ought to be a good one
https://youtu.be/rvw4wv6AHQE

So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?
In the electric universe theories and in mythologies, its said that Saturn was the original Sun.

Old Nick quote:

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"As for saturn it was never the sun. the sun is the opposite of saturn,
where light forever radiates. saturn is the yang to the suns yin. the
corrupted notion of Jesus and lucifer being brothers comes from the
polarity of the sun and moon."
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on April 15, 2020, 12:16:38 PM
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Title is in the the title of presentation so this ought to be a good one
https://youtu.be/rvw4wv6AHQE

So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?
In the electric universe theories and in mythologies, its said that Saturn was the original Sun.

Old Nick quote:

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"As for saturn it was never the sun. the sun is the opposite of saturn,
where light forever radiates. saturn is the yang to the suns yin. the
corrupted notion of Jesus and lucifer being brothers comes from the
polarity of the sun and moon."
so for the full insight into the way people ysed to regard Saturn as sort of tge source of light in antiquity i recommend to watch the video..

This is important to the origin if the cos and also in terms of how they regard themselves

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on April 15, 2020, 02:05:58 PM
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This is important to the origin if the cos and also in terms of how they regard themselves

season 2 of Maria Bamford’s Netflix series, when her character’s tv show is taken over by occult producers who change the entire show’s premise, Maria asks someone “hey, why is my show completely different?” They say “because we’re trying to restart the sun.” It’s inserted like a surreal response-joke but it’s 100% literal.

Another episode has Maria brought into parody-Netflix’s board room. It’s full of A-list actresses like Meryl Streep and Angelina Jolie, who reveal they are members of an ancient priesthood and that “Hollywood” only exists as a way to gather energy to summon their “Hive-Queen Ranlith” from her prison deep within the earth’s core.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 15, 2020, 04:25:20 PM
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Title is in the the title of presentation so this ought to be a good one
https://youtu.be/rvw4wv6AHQE

So the insight I get from this video that I may have forgotten from before is that Saturn was regarded the sun of the night sky or in other words it was what gave the night sky its luminescence.

Saturn was the star of the show until Creator put his Sun here and took all the attention away from Saturn. It's Saturn's house but without Lucifer there is no party.
Where does it say that Saturn came before the sun?
What are you implying Venus has to do with it or do you mean something else by lucifer?
In the electric universe theories and in mythologies, its said that Saturn was the original Sun.

Old Nick quote:

Quote
"As for saturn it was never the sun. the sun is the opposite of saturn,
where light forever radiates. saturn is the yang to the suns yin. the
corrupted notion of Jesus and lucifer being brothers comes from the
polarity of the sun and moon."
so for the full insight into the way people ysed to regard Saturn as sort of tge source of light in antiquity i recommend to watch the video..

This is important to the origin if the cos and also in terms of how they regard themselves

So Zepehr elaborates on what we have already discussed here frequently, that all the gods are divided, personified aspects of one force.
He also points out how apparently Jesus prayed to Helios, which is Saturn. Makes sense because Jesus/Lucifer/Zeus/Jupiter is the son of Saturn/Cronus/Helios. That's really all the video went over, to generalize.
I still feel the video left out quite a bit of the more 'meaty' things but what it did touch on is very important.
So to go back to Nick's old quote and in relation to what was discussed in the video, Saturn is supposed to be the opposite of the literal Sun. Light radiates from one while the other, darkness.
I think that now though, Saturn's role as the opposite of the Sun is usurped by the artificial Moon since that's what most people tend to focus on now.

And even though Saturn may have had it's spotlight taken by the Sun that shines light, it's still the one with the most control.
The main people who worship Saturn do it because darkness is the natural state of things and existed 'before' the light did. That may be the case but our 'souls' aren't of darkness but of light. Quite literally, it's in the name 'soul'. Think 'Dayman', 'ruler of darkness and master of light'.
Even with that, Creator isn't 'light' or 'dark' since both are just different forms of energy.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on April 15, 2020, 07:00:09 PM
 "Helios is seen as both a personification of the Sun and the fundamental creative power behind it[11] and as a result is often worshiped as a god of life and creation. Homer described Helios as a god "who gives joy to mortals"[12] and other ancient texts give him the epithet "gracious" (ἱλαρός), given that he is the source of life and regeneration and associated with the creation of the world. One passage recorded in the Greek Magical Papyri says of Helios, "the earth flourished when you shone forth and made the plants fruitful when you laughed and brought to life the living creatures when you permitted."

 In many of the Papyri, Helios is also strongly identified with Iao, a name derived from that of the Hebrew god Yahweh, and shares several of his titles including Sabaoth and Adonai.[8] He is also assimilated as the Agathos Daemon (called "the Agathodaimon, the god of the gods"), who is also identified elsewhere in the texts as "the greatest god, lord Horus Harpokrates".[8]

Diodorus Siculus of Sicily reported that the Chaldeans called Cronus (Saturn) by the name Helios, or the sun, and he explained that this was because Saturn was the most conspicuous of the planets. Helios was also known as Sol.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on April 15, 2020, 07:04:34 PM
so the different planets and stars all project a different degree of "light"? and this light is what creates this "illusory" reality? but it's all coming from the same source?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on April 16, 2020, 04:20:46 AM
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so the different planets and stars all project a different degree of "light"? and this light is what creates this "illusory" reality? but it's all coming from the same source?

I think light is synonymous with energy, but I'd probably say they all have a different 'energy signature'.  That energy spans the full gamut of the electromagnetic spectrum.  Energy being the manifestation of cosmic consciousness in this physical realm (we perceive it as energy from within this space-time construct).  It all comes from the Great Mind, which springs from one source.

So yes, I reckon you're right.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 16, 2020, 04:28:22 AM
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so the different planets and stars all project a different degree of "light"? and this light is what creates this "illusory" reality? but it's all coming from the same source?

I think light is synonymous with energy, but I'd probably say they all have a different 'energy signature'.  That energy spans the full gamut of the electromagnetic spectrum.  Energy being the manifestation of cosmic consciousness in this physical realm (we perceive it as energy from within this space-time construct).  It all comes from the Great Mind, which springs from one source.

So yes, I reckon you're right.

Without light, colors and shapes wouldn't exist.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on April 16, 2020, 12:00:56 PM
Without light nothing would exist
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Profane Thinker on April 16, 2020, 05:24:58 PM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 16, 2020, 06:42:49 PM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

If you don't directly see it yourself, what makes you think that it is there? What makes you think that there was even something there where you think it should be the last moment you perceived it?

Yellowcard - Lights And Sounds
https://youtu.be/7a9wJIhq2J8
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on April 16, 2020, 07:22:11 PM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

This is where it becomes useful to have a basic understanding of how your Vision Works. If you notice people often refer to Darkness as the formless void prior to the creation of the universe because light literally gives physical form to matter in particle and wave form
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: iknownothing on April 16, 2020, 09:32:22 PM
Two things regarding this thread for me

- dark matter - it exists but you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exis tho

- can't help but think of Saturn's rings as a natural particle accelerator like CERN but obviously CERN is the technological therefore lowkey version
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on April 16, 2020, 09:48:47 PM
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Two things regarding this thread for me

- dark matter - it exists but you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exis tho

- can't help but think of Saturn's rings as a natural particle accelerator like CERN but obviously CERN is the technological therefore lowkey version

I'm actually surprised no one brought these up before. The wings serve two purposes centrifugal and centripetal force and containment
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 16, 2020, 09:55:54 PM
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Two things regarding this thread for me

- dark matter - it exists but you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exis tho

- can't help but think of Saturn's rings as a natural particle accelerator like CERN but obviously CERN is the technological therefore lowkey version

I'm actually surprised no one brought these up before. The wings serve two purposes centrifugal and centripetal force and containment

What (or who) is being contained? Is 'Saturn' itself a giant vessel of sorts that many other vessels can exist in across multiple levels/densities?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: iknownothing on April 16, 2020, 11:48:47 PM
My guess is that in the music of the spheres Saturn creates (force) the music and the spheres form and keeps them in a certain place (containment) so they overlap in certain ways?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on April 17, 2020, 03:03:53 AM
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Two things regarding this thread for me

- dark matter - it exists but you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exis tho

- can't help but think of Saturn's rings as a natural particle accelerator like CERN but obviously CERN is the technological therefore lowkey version

I'm actually surprised no one brought these up before. The wings serve two purposes centrifugal and centripetal force and containment

What (or who) is being contained? Is 'Saturn' itself a giant vessel of sorts that many other vessels can exist in across multiple levels/densities?


Like a tornado.


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Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on April 17, 2020, 03:05:04 AM
Dark matter is the etheric realm bleeding through.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 17, 2020, 03:20:29 AM
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Dark matter is the etheric realm bleeding through.

So 'scientists' are supposedly in search of and are willing to pay stupid amounts of currency for energy before its formed by light? If that is the case, wouldn't it make sense they make deals with the previous, formless dark lords that ruled this world and eventually be lead to create the technology used to allow them to enter?

They form deals with the dark ones for the formless energy then make another deal with Lucifer for the technology and ability to use the light to mold it to what 'they' desire(?)

Seems awful tedious and costly to a being who could do all this just by thinking and willing things into creation.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on April 17, 2020, 04:03:19 AM
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Dark matter is the etheric realm bleeding through.

So 'scientists' are supposedly in search of and are willing to pay stupid amounts of currency for energy before its formed by light? If that is the case, wouldn't it make sense they make deals with the previous, formless dark lords that ruled this world and eventually be lead to create the technology used to allow them to enter?

They form deals with the dark ones for the formless energy then make another deal with Lucifer for the technology and ability to use the light to mold it to what 'they' desire(?)

Seems awful tedious and costly to a being who could do all this just by thinking and willing things into creation.

Dark matter is ostensibly the variable needed to balance an otherwise unbalanced equation. That's why it was theorized by physicists. Someone please correct me if I am mistaken.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on April 17, 2020, 06:29:27 AM
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Dark matter is the etheric realm bleeding through.

So 'scientists' are supposedly in search of and are willing to pay stupid amounts of currency for energy before its formed by light? If that is the case, wouldn't it make sense they make deals with the previous, formless dark lords that ruled this world and eventually be lead to create the technology used to allow them to enter?

They form deals with the dark ones for the formless energy then make another deal with Lucifer for the technology and ability to use the light to mold it to what 'they' desire(?)

Seems awful tedious and costly to a being who could do all this just by thinking and willing things into creation.

Dark matter is ostensibly the variable needed to balance an otherwise unbalanced equation. That's why it was theorized by physicists. Someone please correct me if I am mistaken.

I think you're correct.  They did a calculation of the mass of the known Universe and found there wasn't enough visible matter to account it.  Or something like that.  So to save their ideas of gravity and relativity, they made up 'dark matter'.  They fixed a hole in the sock, but the sock doesn't fit anyway.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on April 17, 2020, 06:34:07 AM
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so the different planets and stars all project a different degree of "light"? and this light is what creates this "illusory" reality? but it's all coming from the same source?

I think light is synonymous with energy, but I'd probably say they all have a different 'energy signature'.  That energy spans the full gamut of the electromagnetic spectrum.  Energy being the manifestation of cosmic consciousness in this physical realm (we perceive it as energy from within this space-time construct).  It all comes from the Great Mind, which springs from one source.

So yes, I reckon you're right.

Without light, colors and shapes wouldn't exist.

The energy forms would still be there, we just wouldn't see them.  The tree exists, but what we see of the tree is just the light it reflects.

But I think light itself has to exist, just like all the other forms of energy, or we wouldn't have any existence at all.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on April 17, 2020, 06:41:55 AM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

If you don't directly see it yourself, what makes you think that it is there? What makes you think that there was even something there where you think it should be the last moment you perceived it?

Yellowcard - Lights And Sounds
https://youtu.be/7a9wJIhq2J8

I can see where you're coming from, but this is skirting close to thinking the whole of reality is there just because you perceive it.  Or is not there if you don't perceive it.

Then of course if you don't perceive it, you can't know it's there, even if it is there in some form, unperceived.  Lol.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on April 17, 2020, 11:32:47 AM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

If you don't directly see it yourself, what makes you think that it is there? What makes you think that there was even something there where you think it should be the last moment you perceived it?

Yellowcard - Lights And Sounds
https://youtu.be/7a9wJIhq2J8 (https://youtu.be/7a9wJIhq2J8)

I can see where you're coming from, but this is skirting close to thinking the whole of reality is there just because you perceive it.  Or is not there if you don't perceive it.

Then of course if you don't perceive it, you can't know it's there, even if it is there in some form, unperceived.  Lol.


Be careful not to conflate light itself with the perception of visible light.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on April 17, 2020, 11:45:17 PM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

If you don't directly see it yourself, what makes you think that it is there? What makes you think that there was even something there where you think it should be the last moment you perceived it?

Yellowcard - Lights And Sounds
https://youtu.be/7a9wJIhq2J8 (https://youtu.be/7a9wJIhq2J8)

I can see where you're coming from, but this is skirting close to thinking the whole of reality is there just because you perceive it.  Or is not there if you don't perceive it.

Then of course if you don't perceive it, you can't know it's there, even if it is there in some form, unperceived.  Lol.


Be careful not to conflate light itself with the perception of visible light.

Or vice versa. 
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 18, 2020, 12:47:19 AM
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Without light nothing would exist

You definitely wouldn't be able to see it if there was.

If you don't directly see it yourself, what makes you think that it is there? What makes you think that there was even something there where you think it should be the last moment you perceived it?

Yellowcard - Lights And Sounds
https://youtu.be/7a9wJIhq2J8 (https://youtu.be/7a9wJIhq2J8)

I can see where you're coming from, but this is skirting close to thinking the whole of reality is there just because you perceive it.  Or is not there if you don't perceive it.

Then of course if you don't perceive it, you can't know it's there, even if it is there in some form, unperceived.  Lol.


Be careful not to conflate light itself with the perception of visible light.

Or vice versa.

Another common conflation is light itself with the bringer of it.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on April 18, 2020, 04:24:16 AM
How would one describe light itself?  Are we talking about photons that travel invisibly, until they hit or interact with something?  If it's invisible, is it light?  Or is it only light when it is visible?

Isn't light just the effect of an invisible process?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on April 18, 2020, 04:43:44 AM
without light plants wouldn't exist, which would make it impossible for there to be a breathable atmosphere and organic living ecosystems. Also, since plants energy production is fueled directly from light and water, and this energy is then transmitted within the food chain, then that would mean all you're consuming when eating is processed "light"
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on April 18, 2020, 06:12:01 AM
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without light plants wouldn't exist, which would make it impossible for there to be a breathable atmosphere and organic living ecosystems. Also, since plants energy production is fueled directly from light and water, and this energy is then transmitted within the food chain, then that would mean all you're consuming when eating is processed "light"

It's not just processed light/energy.  The light enables the plant to utilise water, minerals and chemicals/gases  in the soil and atmosphere to build itself.  Photosynthesis.

But is light itself visible?  What is it before it is visible?  While the energy that becomes light travels through space, it can't be seen until it strikes something.  I think the distinction is important. 
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on April 18, 2020, 06:37:06 AM
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without light plants wouldn't exist, which would make it impossible for there to be a breathable atmosphere and organic living ecosystems. Also, since plants energy production is fueled directly from light and water, and this energy is then transmitted within the food chain, then that would mean all you're consuming when eating is processed "light"

It's not just processed light/energy.  The light enables the plant to utilise water, minerals and chemicals/gases  in the soil and atmosphere to build itself.  Photosynthesis.

But is light itself visible?  What is it before it is visible?  While the energy that becomes light travels through space, it can't be seen until it strikes something.  I think the distinction is important.

I mean, that is quite simply the dual nature of light, being a wave and a particle, which was demonstrated by the dual slit experiment, where the observer had an effect in the behavior of the light particle, simply by watching it. this implies that if no one is there to see, then light stays in wave form in a field of probability, and just by looking it becomes corporeal. this implies that it works similar to a video game, in that it's just data that continually renderizes by exploring different areas, and in this analogy, the light would be like the electricity that powers the console, without it, you can't play
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Zelezny on April 18, 2020, 10:58:49 AM
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5585833-song-of-the-spine
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on April 18, 2020, 04:05:41 PM
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How would one describe light itself?  Are we talking about photons that travel invisibly, until they hit or interact with something?  If it's invisible, is it light?  Or is it only light when it is visible?

Isn't light just the effect of an invisible process?

At its base, it is electromagnetic radiation, i.e. the vibratory action of essence (electric) and potential (magnetic). Motion itself. Our vestigial eyes are receptive only to the most readily available physical light. The middle C of the electromagnetic spectrum. Walter Russell wrote a whole book about it: https://bluestarenterprise.com/files-outside-wordpress/walter-russell/33365473-The-Secret-of-Light-by-Walter-Russell.pdf
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on April 18, 2020, 09:35:26 PM
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without light plants wouldn't exist, which would make it impossible for there to be a breathable atmosphere and organic living ecosystems. Also, since plants energy production is fueled directly from light and water, and this energy is then transmitted within the food chain, then that would mean all you're consuming when eating is processed "light"

It's not just processed light/energy.  The light enables the plant to utilise water, minerals and chemicals/gases  in the soil and atmosphere to build itself.  Photosynthesis.

But is light itself visible?  What is it before it is visible?  While the energy that becomes light travels through space, it can't be seen until it strikes something.  I think the distinction is important.

I mean, that is quite simply the dual nature of light, being a wave and a particle, which was demonstrated by the dual slit experiment, where the observer had an effect in the behavior of the light particle, simply by watching it. this implies that if no one is there to see, then light stays in wave form in a field of probability, and just by looking it becomes corporeal. this implies that it works similar to a video game, in that it's just data that continually renderizes by exploring different areas, and in this analogy, the light would be like the electricity that powers the console, without it, you can't play

The concept of a 'dual nature' of light is an idea generated by our prior perceptions and assumptions of solidity.  There are no particles, as in solid bits, that's an illusion.  There are no 'waves' as understood either.  It's a singular phenomenon, we might call a 'wavicle'.  It has the properties of both wave and particle if looked for, but it's neither.  It's more like tiny vortices of energy, set up by interference to the 'flow' of the energy behind light.  The light generated is an effect of this.

The observer has an effect on the outcome depending on which way they are looking/testing, but that decision doesn't change anything about light itself.  That's an illusion the scientists believe, because they can't comprehend it any other way.  That's my understanding of it, anyway. 
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on April 18, 2020, 09:44:50 PM
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How would one describe light itself?  Are we talking about photons that travel invisibly, until they hit or interact with something?  If it's invisible, is it light?  Or is it only light when it is visible?

Isn't light just the effect of an invisible process?

At its base, it is electromagnetic radiation, i.e. the vibratory action of essence (electric) and potential (magnetic). Motion itself. Our vestigial eyes are receptive only to the most readily available physical light. The middle C of the electromagnetic spectrum. Walter Russell wrote a whole book about it: https://bluestarenterprise.com/files-outside-wordpress/walter-russell/33365473-The-Secret-of-Light-by-Walter-Russell.pdf

I agree with this.  Everything is electromagnetic radiation, even down to 'solidity' as we see it.  A sliding scale.  Turn on an electrical element and it will first begin to heat up.  Pretty soon it then begins to emit heat waves.  Further excitation has it emitting infra-red as the energy goes up in vibration.  Then it begins to glow red as it starts to emit waves our eyes can detect.  And so on.  If it's possible to keep raising the energy the solid element will become plasma eventually.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 19, 2020, 02:37:44 PM
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Tell me what is "balanced" in nature.  There is a STRUGGLE for balance however

The flower of life is balanced.

Symmetry is not balance
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/random-musings/msg1491/#msg1491

"Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 19, 2020, 02:39:06 PM
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Tell me what is "balanced" in nature.  There is a STRUGGLE for balance however


The solar system comes to mind.

A) is the solar system nature
B) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dispatch.com/article/20150619/NEWS/306199629%3ftemplate=ampart

The imbalance is why we live
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/random-musings/msg1490/#msg1490

Maybe I'm processing what you shared incorrectly but it made me think of this.

Quote
The secret drugs you. It makes you believe that you kill. you live. you die. you make mistakes. you work. you aim to be happy. But you're never told the answers to those questions that you thought were unsolvable."
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: iknownothing on April 19, 2020, 02:43:12 PM
What if there IS light in pitch black darkness. We just can't see it? We know there's uv, infrared etc. We didn't know about them before they were discovered. So maybe there's a light out there at all times and we just haven't discovered it yet? Maybe that's what the "ether" is.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 19, 2020, 02:54:17 PM
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What if there IS light in pitch black darkness. We just can't see it? We know there's uv, infrared etc. We didn't know about them before they were discovered. So maybe there's a light out there at all times and we just haven't discovered it yet? Maybe that's what the "ether" is.

It would seem dark always encapsulates light. An example of that would be Saturn, the one with the most control being on the 'outside' of the Sun. The original divide is between light and dark.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 19, 2020, 02:54:34 PM

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Balance doesn't exist.

Illusion of balance:
(https://miro.medium.com/max/520/1*ffWtkMLu9CcMvDJmwikxKw.png)
Reality:
(https://css-tricks.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/yin_yang.gif)
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/random-musings/msg1496/#msg1496

So someone cut a ball in half and they try to juggle both parts when they could have just been satisfied with the original whole and unity of it. Who thought this ('wnespicsefomunah' maybe?) would be fun?


Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on April 19, 2020, 03:05:44 PM
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What if there IS light in pitch black darkness. We just can't see it? We know there's uv, infrared etc. We didn't know about them before they were discovered. So maybe there's a light out there at all times and we just haven't discovered it yet? Maybe that's what the "ether" is.

It would seem dark always encapsulates light. An example of that would be Saturn, the one with the most control being on the 'outside' of the Sun. The original divide is between light and dark.

Saturn is the light in the darkness or the “dark star” or the black sun.

That is why it controls the light. Look at the yin/yang gif, who pilots each side? Its opposite, the antithesis.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 19, 2020, 03:15:01 PM
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What if there IS light in pitch black darkness. We just can't see it? We know there's uv, infrared etc. We didn't know about them before they were discovered. So maybe there's a light out there at all times and we just haven't discovered it yet? Maybe that's what the "ether" is.

It would seem dark always encapsulates light. An example of that would be Saturn, the one with the most control being on the 'outside' of the Sun. The original divide is between light and dark.

Saturn is the light in the darkness or the “dark star” or the black sun.

That is why it controls the light. Look at the yin/yang gif, who pilots each side? Its opposite, the antithesis.

The Sun would be the dark in the light then(lol?)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on April 19, 2020, 03:28:27 PM
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The Sun would be the dark in the light then(lol?)

Yep. Rather in that analogy, if Saturn is the dark in the light, the Sun would be reversed, the light in the dark. The sun/planets aren’t the light they’re the carriers of the light.

Crowley wrote “the khabs are in the khu, not the khu is in the khabs.” The stars are in the light, not the light is in the stars. If light must be split into a spectrum to allow for matter, etc, then the stars/planets are the prisms of darkness that direct the light.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: DigitalDiogenes on April 19, 2020, 03:50:10 PM
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without light plants wouldn't exist, which would make it impossible for there to be a breathable atmosphere and organic living ecosystems. Also, since plants energy production is fueled directly from light and water, and this energy is then transmitted within the food chain, then that would mean all you're consuming when eating is processed "light"

Disagree here kind of. The vast majority of oxygen comes from the oceans. Lots of that life comes from the base of the oceanic food cycle (heat from vents at the bottom of the ocean). From a theoretical perspective I think the earth can support life without the sun and there's tons of evidence of no light organisms at the bottom of oceans. It would look far different though...
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on April 19, 2020, 05:35:43 PM
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without light plants wouldn't exist, which would make it impossible for there to be a breathable atmosphere and organic living ecosystems. Also, since plants energy production is fueled directly from light and water, and this energy is then transmitted within the food chain, then that would mean all you're consuming when eating is processed "light"

Disagree here kind of. The vast majority of oxygen comes from the oceans. Lots of that life comes from the base of the oceanic food cycle (heat from vents at the bottom of the ocean). From a theoretical perspective I think the earth can support life without the sun and there's tons of evidence of no light organisms at the bottom of oceans. It would look far different though...

the oceans are full of plant life though. algae are older than land plants
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ntwadumela on April 19, 2020, 08:17:07 PM
So the Chi Rho is a sigil that you meditate UPON, correct?
Also, if you use Mi and Sol (verbally) while listening to the corresponding frequencies while meditating, you can "Level up"?
Finally, Crown and Root are the keys and if you use the orgasm (from the Root) to meet the Crown, you can unlock the same powers the Christ archetypes achieved?
I'm assuming the Venusian frequency plays in to all of this.

I understand I'm vastly oversimplifying pretty much all of this, but these are the thoughts I'm working with at the moment.
Can anyone throw me a bone here?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on April 19, 2020, 08:34:28 PM
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Also, if you use Mi and Sol (verbally) while listening to the corresponding frequencies while meditating, you can "Level up"?

You put a spell on note “So” to mean Sol, don’t forget to cast a spell on note “Mi” to mean something else.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on April 19, 2020, 08:47:40 PM
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Also, if you use Mi and Sol (verbally) while listening to the corresponding frequencies while meditating, you can "Level up"?

You put a spell on note “So” to mean Sol, don’t forget to cast a spell on note “Mi” to mean something else.

"Sol" is the original word though, still used today in Spanish, Italian and other languages. I think a good question is why was it modified in the English language
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 19, 2020, 09:56:35 PM
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Also, if you use Mi and Sol (verbally) while listening to the corresponding frequencies while meditating, you can "Level up"?

You put a spell on note “So” to mean Sol, don’t forget to cast a spell on note “Mi” to mean something else.

"Sol" is the original word though, still used today in Spanish, Italian and other languages. I think a good question is why was it modified in the English language

'U' is a vow-El and since 'English' (especially what we call it today) came after Latin, which is the universal verbal language (not the one most people speak), it's guaranteed to have been watered down greatly.
In one of my more aware moments, when trying to write down my 6D thoughts onto a computer, I felt like I was lowering myself to such a animal like level just to convey what will ostensibly seem like lofty concepts.

There really is something to be said about how much people just don't process. You always listen and hear but you don't consciously recognize all the information that's literally blasting you in the face and all senses in every possible way.
Getting back to a state where you can perceive just an ounce of what is all around you, it feels like you can breath again.

But I digress. My point is that all the known languages known today have been completely bastardized so people can't communicate properly and need to lower themselves on all levels to explain simple things.
You should wonder (((who))) added the 'vows of El' into our system.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on April 19, 2020, 09:58:21 PM
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Also, if you use Mi and Sol (verbally) while listening to the corresponding frequencies while meditating, you can "Level up"?

You put a spell on note “So” to mean Sol, don’t forget to cast a spell on note “Mi” to mean something else.

"Sol" is the original word though, still used today in Spanish, Italian and other languages. I think a good question is why was it modified in the English language

Lol they wanted to remove the Sol and put a Tau in there. The wordplay still stands, sol spells into soul, so “mi”...
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 21, 2020, 06:26:37 PM
What happens when an aircraft travels faster than the speed of sound?

Is Rainbow Dash the only pony who can do a Sonic Rainboom?
https://www.reddit.com/r/mylittlepony/comments/hsb10/is_rainbow_dash_the_only_pony_who_can_do_a_sonic/

There are seven colors in the rainbow, the 'eighth' is just the first of the seven repeated into a new octave. Spell out 'ROYGBIV' and split it in half to get 'ROY G BIV'.
In the middle (with you) is 'G' as in 'Baal' or the 'Grand Architect of the Universe'(Saturn).  To the left is 'ROY' which means 'King' or 'Red'. I don't have a meaning for 'BIV' yet. What does that sound like phonetically?
At least 'ROY G' is really 'King (and/or) Grand Architect/god of the Universe'. Makes sense considering that it wouldn't exist without light which all colors come from (white light).

Even if you go with 'Red Grand Architect of the Universe', it still makes sense. What comes to mind is the red room from Twin Peaks but also how red in general is more often than not a distraction, which I'd say our universe is full of if not one itself.

The 'major scale formula' is often taught as 'W W H W W W H' with each 'W' meaning 'whole step' and 'H' half step. Phonetically, it sounds like 'Yahweh' or 'YHWH'.

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on April 23, 2020, 03:45:15 PM
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To put what I've observed simply, most people are dying in the most literal sense possible. Energy doesn't flow through their bodies to be recharged but damn do they spend it and you can see that centered around their digestive track. Most peoples bodies I've seen look like animated corpses with little to no life going through them.

I agree. My sight is lacking but when I picked up on that it crushed me to no end. Outlook flushed right down the drain.
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/aurora/msg1650/#msg1650

Mad World - Gary Jules
https://youtu.be/4N3N1MlvVc4
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 01, 2020, 11:36:38 PM
I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on May 02, 2020, 01:13:24 AM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?

Only one kind of immortality. Think about it. You are not your ________
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 02, 2020, 02:04:27 PM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?

Only one kind of immortality. Think about it. You are not your ________

What I was referring to by 'physical immortality' is how the body was originally not meant to atrophy in any sense of the term and our 'lifespans' weren't limited at all, much less to a handful of decades.
I understand what you are saying though. I guess it doesn't matter how long any physical vehicle you inhabit lives as long as your able to retain all your experience when you have the option to possess a new one.

How did he avoid or get around the Moon construct restricting his memories?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on May 02, 2020, 02:06:09 PM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?

Only one kind of immortality. Think about it. You are not your ________

does this mean that digital immortality is possible? is this related to the mass gathering of biometric data to create a global neural network of artificial intelligence?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 02, 2020, 02:11:44 PM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?

Only one kind of immortality. Think about it. You are not your ________

does this mean that digital immortality is possible? is this related to the mass gathering of biometric data to create a global neural network of artificial intelligence?

Anything along the lines of 'digital immortality' is definitely something you want to stay away from. Any technology similar to that only serves one group and its not even remotely 'human'.
I'm sure there are many examples but for quick one, look at what happened to the original men that digitized themselves to preserve their existence in the Halo series.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 03, 2020, 06:39:23 AM
Cosmic creativity -- how art evolves consciousness: Alex Grey at TEDxMaui 2013
https://youtu.be/0_YJToyOp_4
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on May 03, 2020, 01:45:02 PM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?

Only one kind of immortality. Think about it. You are not your ________

does this mean that digital immortality is possible? is this related to the mass gathering of biometric data to create a global neural network of artificial intelligence?

Weve been had digital immortality, its vessel transferrence thats proving difficult
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 03, 2020, 02:51:25 PM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?

Only one kind of immortality. Think about it. You are not your ________

does this mean that digital immortality is possible? is this related to the mass gathering of biometric data to create a global neural network of artificial intelligence?

Weve been had digital immortality, its vessel transferrence thats proving difficult

Why would you want to transfer your consciousness into a lifeless machine vessel? Aren't those inferior to the organic one? Why would you want to be trapped in a computer, unless that isn't what we are calling 'digital immortality' in this instance.

What are we calling 'digital immortality'?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on May 03, 2020, 10:39:16 PM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?

Only one kind of immortality. Think about it. You are not your ________

does this mean that digital immortality is possible? is this related to the mass gathering of biometric data to create a global neural network of artificial intelligence?

Weve been had digital immortality, its vessel transferrence thats proving difficult

Why would you want to transfer your consciousness into a lifeless machine vessel? Aren't those inferior to the organic one? Why would you want to be trapped in a computer, unless that isn't what we are calling 'digital immortality' in this instance.

What are we calling 'digital immortality'?

What I'm going digital immortality is consciousness transfer and I agree I don't think anybody wants an inorganic bezel which is why I said they've been having trouble with the vessels think of celebrity clones and the frequency and rapidity with which they degrade
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 03, 2020, 11:48:18 PM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?

Only one kind of immortality. Think about it. You are not your ________

does this mean that digital immortality is possible? is this related to the mass gathering of biometric data to create a global neural network of artificial intelligence?

Weve been had digital immortality, its vessel transferrence thats proving difficult

Why would you want to transfer your consciousness into a lifeless machine vessel? Aren't those inferior to the organic one? Why would you want to be trapped in a computer, unless that isn't what we are calling 'digital immortality' in this instance.

What are we calling 'digital immortality'?

What I'm going digital immortality is consciousness transfer and I agree I don't think anybody wants an inorganic bezel which is why I said they've been having trouble with the vessels think of celebrity clones and the frequency and rapidity with which they degrade

Some of the themes I've seen with clones is that they don't have belly buttons and that they age rapidly to the point of the age the original person was cloned, which at that point they die. American Dad actually has an episode on it and when Stand finds out they were made, the first thing he tries to do is kill them before they merge into the general population.

So clones are how they are trying to achieve immortality, one way they keep going at anyway. What about people like Keanu Reeves, St. Germain and 'Pindar'? Didn't they achieve what most would call 'immortality' by extremely long lifespans in the same vessel?

How did Nicholas Flamel retain his memories compared to the vast majority that loose them?
It would seem like there are a handful of ways to enter the 'game' on Earth. The most common entrance is through a natural birth which would be to be born into an infants body to a 'random' family. I remember you said that we all choose our bodies prior to incarnating though.
Doesn't the vessel need to accommodate the energy trying to enter it? At what point does a 'normal' biological vessel remain able to retain someone of the native race that it belongs to? For example, if someone is European and they keep mixing, at what point can the vessel mix before its able to no longer accommodate a 'European soul' (for the lack of a better term)?

Another way to 'enter' would be to lower the density of your vessel and enter through a 'space ship'/external merkabah but it doesn't seem like too many wind up doing that. Even fewer do it naturally without an external merkabah.

Another way would be to clone a vessel with the ideal genetics and transfer consciousness into that. Why haven't they perfected that method yet? Has it ever been perfected? Is the reason they are having so much trouble doing it is because they are trying achieve something 'divine' as in the formation of the physical vessel through unnatural means?
Is that some kind of 'natural cosmic restriction' in place to make it harder for people to achieve cloning?

The last way I've only read in a handful of places that few have achieved is to manifest their physical body 'here' entirely 'by scratch' when they enter Earth as a ball of white light. It would seem like this method bypasses all 'systems' put in place to limit the person entering.

Another question I have is why would people incarnate into these 'random, nobody' vessels among the proles? I guess that would be specific to each person and their reason for incarnating here though.
Apologize for all the questions at once. They don't have to be answered all in one post.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on May 04, 2020, 10:52:32 AM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality?

Lol my favorite topic!! There’s no physical immortality with human vessels. As Game of Thrones mythos puts it,

“... the centuries/millennia-long lives of the [Dragon] emperors (and the corresponding legendary Westerosi heroes) are possible because they regularly skinchange their consciousness — their “selves” — into new bodies, probably their own sons/grandsons. Thus they literally reincarnate until their magical blood wanes such that they are “stuck” in a final form.“

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What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols)

Every man has to put the pieces of Osiris back together for himself. It is the Tower of Babel, the heavenly language of symbol, logo, telepathy. The schools of Mushtari.

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What about people like Keanu Reeves, St. Germain and 'Pindar'? Didn't they achieve what most would call 'immortality' by extremely long lifespans in the same vessel?

Heroes of the Horn of Valere. The pattern spits the archetypal personalities back into the world as needed. New body, same consciousness, similar role in the great drama.

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The last way I've only read in a handful of places that few have achieved is to manifest their physical body 'here' entirely 'by scratch' when they enter Earth as a ball of white light. It would seem like this method bypasses all 'systems' put in place to limit the person entering.

The most stylish way about it lol. Laura Palmer is one myth of this.

https://youtu.be/id75c8HGAxw

Kara Thrace, another.

https://youtu.be/xgDEMrsTY8c
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on May 04, 2020, 11:26:36 AM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?

Only one kind of immortality. Think about it. You are not your ________

does this mean that digital immortality is possible? is this related to the mass gathering of biometric data to create a global neural network of artificial intelligence?

Weve been had digital immortality, its vessel transferrence thats proving difficult

Why would you want to transfer your consciousness into a lifeless machine vessel? Aren't those inferior to the organic one? Why would you want to be trapped in a computer, unless that isn't what we are calling 'digital immortality' in this instance.

What are we calling 'digital immortality'?

What I'm going digital immortality is consciousness transfer and I agree I don't think anybody wants an inorganic bezel which is why I said they've been having trouble with the vessels think of celebrity clones and the frequency and rapidity with which they degrade

Could it be that they are trying to do something like Jarvis/Vision from the Marvel movies? As in building an organic superhuman body as a vessel for an AI
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 05, 2020, 12:45:01 AM
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What about people like Keanu Reeves, St. Germain and 'Pindar'? Didn't they achieve what most would call 'immortality' by extremely long lifespans in the same vessel?

Heroes of the Horn of Valere. The pattern spits the archetypal personalities back into the world as needed. New body, same consciousness, similar role in the great drama.

In an old thread Nick mentioned that 'Pindar' knows the 'real name' of at least some gods and that another name Pindar went as was 'St. Germain'.
I don't have the exact quote but he also mentioned (if I'm remembering correctly) that Pindar was St. Germain and later JFK but he never died through all those years and retained the same vessel despite being multiple people. Something to that effect.
I also don't have the context for this quote but he has said "The serpent is Pindar".

So with all that considered, is why I mentioned that 'Pindar' achieved some level of physical immortality. Another example is how pretty much any figure in the bible lived long over 100 years at least.

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on May 05, 2020, 01:36:34 AM
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In an old thread Nick mentioned that 'Pindar' knows the 'real name' of at least some gods and that another name Pindar went as was 'St. Germain'.
I don't have the exact quote but he also mentioned (if I'm remembering correctly) that Pindar was St. Germain and later JFK but he never died through all those years and retained the same vessel despite being multiple people. Something to that effect.
I also don't have the context for this quote but he has said "The serpent is Pindar".

So with all that considered, is why I mentioned that 'Pindar' achieved some level of physical immortality. Another example is how pretty much any figure in the bible lived long over 100 years at least.

What if Pindar isn't a physical human?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 05, 2020, 01:40:57 AM
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In an old thread Nick mentioned that 'Pindar' knows the 'real name' of at least some gods and that another name Pindar went as was 'St. Germain'.
I don't have the exact quote but he also mentioned (if I'm remembering correctly) that Pindar was St. Germain and later JFK but he never died through all those years and retained the same vessel despite being multiple people. Something to that effect.
I also don't have the context for this quote but he has said "The serpent is Pindar".

So with all that considered, is why I mentioned that 'Pindar' achieved some level of physical immortality. Another example is how pretty much any figure in the bible lived long over 100 years at least.

What if Pindar isn't a physical human?

You mean something like how 'Talawanda' was in and out of the Earth plane/dream at will so he wouldn't be trapped in it? He did say that its dangerous for powerful beings to stay on Earth too long.
I don't know though. The topic of 'Pindar' was never really discussed in depth.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on May 05, 2020, 01:58:27 AM
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You mean something like how 'Talawanda' was in and out of the Earth plane/dream at will so he wouldn't be trapped in it? He did say that its dangerous for powerful beings to stay on Earth too long.
I don't know though. The topic of 'Pindar' was never really discussed in depth.

Yeah I’m just spitballing ideas lol. I think he was also called a king of the Reptilians?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 07, 2020, 02:34:53 PM
I had a series of vivid experiences where I saw what happens between when you first go to sleep and transition into a 'dream'. To summarize what I observed, I saw my 'consciousness' or 'energy'/'soul' moving along some sort of rail between bodies and places.
When its said 'its just a ride' that is more literal than most would think at first. Our bodies are 'just' vehicles used to maneuver this plane and they would still exist even if we didn't incarnate into them.
It's obvious at this point after experiencing and observing all this that 'we' aren't 'human' and we aren't our bodies. They have their own 'mind' and go about living but when we inhabit them, we assume control as the 'highest mind' of the vessel and take control of the wheel.

At least one energy that tries to interfere with this is the 'ego', which is a parasite in the mind. It tries to subvert your true will and hijack your vessel subtlety without you noticing.
It comes off a bit like 'Choronzon' but a lot less destructive and easier to kick out of your mind.
There are so many things we think and do that actually aren't anything near our true will. To get around this multilayered trickery, you have to be very mindful and follow your thoughts and organize them.

Our physical vessels, since we incarnated into them instead of 'hand crafting' them in a previous way I mentioned in another thread, they would still be 'alive' and 'living life' without our energy directly inhabiting them.
Our bodies are advanced immortal organic mecha suits that are used to maneuver this plane and when you enter it, bring about change on this plane with.
Our 'soul' is 'just' along for the ride and picked up a car of our choice to ride this one out. We are very much in control of the wheel and always will be.
You can enter and leave your vehicle at will through the same portal you used to enter it.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on May 07, 2020, 04:25:55 PM
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I had a series of vivid experiences where I saw what happens between when you first go to sleep and transition into a 'dream'. To summarize what I observed, I saw my 'consciousness' or 'energy'/'soul' moving along some sort of rail between bodies and places.
When its said 'its just a ride' that is more literal than most would think at first. Our bodies are 'just' vehicles used to maneuver this plane and they would still exist even if we didn't incarnate into them.
It's obvious at this point after experiencing and observing all this that 'we' aren't 'human' and we aren't our bodies. They have their own 'mind' and go about living but when we inhabit them, we assume control as the 'highest mind' of the vessel and take control of the wheel.

At least one energy that tries to interfere with this is the 'ego', which is a parasite in the mind. It tries to subvert your true will and hijack your vessel subtlety without you noticing.
It comes off a bit like 'Choronzon' but a lot less destructive and easier to kick out of your mind.
There are so many things we think and do that actually aren't anything near our true will. To get around this multilayered trickery, you have to be very mindful and follow your thoughts and organize them.

Our physical vessels, since we incarnated into them instead of 'hand crafting' them in a previous way I mentioned in another thread, they would still be 'alive' and 'living life' without our energy directly inhabiting them.
Our bodies are advanced immortal organic mecha suits that are used to maneuver this plane and when you enter it, bring about change on this plane with.
Our 'soul' is 'just' along for the ride and picked up a car of our choice to ride this one out. We are very much in control of the wheel and always will be.
You can enter and leave your vehicle at will through the same portal you used to enter it.


Erutdite as always. I would only add that we are here to create and collect experiences to render as gifts to our Higher Self.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on May 08, 2020, 01:33:04 AM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?

Only one kind of immortality. Think about it. You are not your ________

does this mean that digital immortality is possible? is this related to the mass gathering of biometric data to create a global neural network of artificial intelligence?

Weve been had digital immortality, its vessel transferrence thats proving difficult

Why would you want to transfer your consciousness into a lifeless machine vessel? Aren't those inferior to the organic one? Why would you want to be trapped in a computer, unless that isn't what we are calling 'digital immortality' in this instance.

What are we calling 'digital immortality'?

What I'm going digital immortality is consciousness transfer and I agree I don't think anybody wants an inorganic bezel which is why I said they've been having trouble with the vessels think of celebrity clones and the frequency and rapidity with which they degrade

Some of the themes I've seen with clones is that they don't have belly buttons and that they age rapidly to the point of the age the original person was cloned, which at that point they die. American Dad actually has an episode on it and when Stand finds out they were made, the first thing he tries to do is kill them before they merge into the general population.

So clones are how they are trying to achieve immortality, one way they keep going at anyway. What about people like Keanu Reeves, St. Germain and 'Pindar'? Didn't they achieve what most would call 'immortality' by extremely long lifespans in the same vessel?

How did Nicholas Flamel retain his memories compared to the vast majority that loose them?
It would seem like there are a handful of ways to enter the 'game' on Earth. The most common entrance is through a natural birth which would be to be born into an infants body to a 'random' family. I remember you said that we all choose our bodies prior to incarnating though.
Doesn't the vessel need to accommodate the energy trying to enter it? At what point does a 'normal' biological vessel remain able to retain someone of the native race that it belongs to? For example, if someone is European and they keep mixing, at what point can the vessel mix before its able to no longer accommodate a 'European soul' (for the lack of a better term)?

Another way to 'enter' would be to lower the density of your vessel and enter through a 'space ship'/external merkabah but it doesn't seem like too many wind up doing that. Even fewer do it naturally without an external merkabah.

Another way would be to clone a vessel with the ideal genetics and transfer consciousness into that. Why haven't they perfected that method yet? Has it ever been perfected? Is the reason they are having so much trouble doing it is because they are trying achieve something 'divine' as in the formation of the physical vessel through unnatural means?
Is that some kind of 'natural cosmic restriction' in place to make it harder for people to achieve cloning?

The last way I've only read in a handful of places that few have achieved is to manifest their physical body 'here' entirely 'by scratch' when they enter Earth as a ball of white light. It would seem like this method bypasses all 'systems' put in place to limit the person entering.

Another question I have is why would people incarnate into these 'random, nobody' vessels among the proles? I guess that would be specific to each person and their reason for incarnating here though.
Apologize for all the questions at once. They don't have to be answered all in one post.

Lol.  Since you asked so many questions and I'm reading through them and my brain keeps coming up with answers to some of them, I thought I'd have a stab at a few.  I'm not good with the quote feature so I bolded the ones I wanted to answer.

-  The vessel is the expression of the soul.  It just takes time and grows/progresses by increments, but the soul creates the body.  Of course this is backed up by the whole of cosmic consciousness.  The soul chooses the parents and the potential life by (somehow) assessing the potentials for increasing awareness in that life.  Then we get born and mostly forget, since that's the way it's got to be.  Nothing is really forgotten, but we must start with a new persona which is the old persona reborn.  Nature plus nurture in equivalent amounts.  The physical bodies change but the individuality remains the same.

-  All of the races on this planet can interbreed, so I imagine there're no racial barriers to incarnation... or gender for that matter.  I believe we might enter and ride upon the mind of an eagle when it's flying and see through its eyes, but I don't think we could be reborn as one.

-  You could call it a restriction for sure.  They are trying to manipulate the inner world from without, thinking technology can overcome any problems.  What if some of their fundamental ideas, beliefs and assumptions are wrong?  What if it can't be done because reality doesn't allow for it?  I don't know, but I'm petty sure they don't know everything, regardless of what their hubris tells them.

-  I'm sure there are entities that could manifest fully and instantly in to this world, but they would probably be so far beyond the physical plane (having long since passed through physicality) that they would not need to come here.  I think they would find it painful or damaging in some way.  Perhaps there have been a few, but I don't know.

-  Hard to say why people choose their potential existences from this side of the 'fence'.  All I can think is that the point of view is quite a bit different on the other side.  A whole life is just like a 'day' to the soul.     
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: IAmToday777 on May 08, 2020, 02:18:53 AM
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I had a series of vivid experiences where I saw what happens between when you first go to sleep and transition into a 'dream'. To summarize what I observed, I saw my 'consciousness' or 'energy'/'soul' moving along some sort of rail between bodies and places.
When its said 'its just a ride' that is more literal than most would think at first. Our bodies are 'just' vehicles used to maneuver this plane and they would still exist even if we didn't incarnate into them.
It's obvious at this point after experiencing and observing all this that 'we' aren't 'human' and we aren't our bodies. They have their own 'mind' and go about living but when we inhabit them, we assume control as the 'highest mind' of the vessel and take control of the wheel.

At least one energy that tries to interfere with this is the 'ego', which is a parasite in the mind. It tries to subvert your true will and hijack your vessel subtlety without you noticing.
It comes off a bit like 'Choronzon' but a lot less destructive and easier to kick out of your mind.
There are so many things we think and do that actually aren't anything near our true will. To get around this multilayered trickery, you have to be very mindful and follow your thoughts and organize them.

Our physical vessels, since we incarnated into them instead of 'hand crafting' them in a previous way I mentioned in another thread, they would still be 'alive' and 'living life' without our energy directly inhabiting them.
Our bodies are advanced immortal organic mecha suits that are used to maneuver this plane and when you enter it, bring about change on this plane with.
Our 'soul' is 'just' along for the ride and picked up a car of our choice to ride this one out. We are very much in control of the wheel and always will be.
You can enter and leave your vehicle at will through the same portal you used to enter it.


I recall reading a fictional story sometime in the last 5 years. It was about a vehicle that you would ride around in. But because you never decided to try leaving the vehicle you didn't actually realize that you could. I don't remember the details from that so I would probably have one hell of a time finding it via google. But it reminded me very much of your last line.

As far as our ego being a parasite in the mind. I KNOW this is true. And I know ways to quiet and "weaken" that parasite, at least in my individual life. Though others might need to use different methods. But I believe regardless of what way is best for a particular person, it begins and ends with "sacrifice".
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: IAmToday777 on May 08, 2020, 02:23:47 AM
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I think its worth asking for clarification if Nicholas Flamel achieved physical or non physical immortality? He's still here and has retained his old memories but did he decide when he would physically expire when he was still 'Nicholas Flamel'?

What was said about him before and how he tried to share the 'Philosophers Stone' with the world (if they could decipher the symbols) but he overestimated the abilities of modern day man implied that he left behind some kind of work/writing that can be examined. Is that something that the public has access to?

Only one kind of immortality. Think about it. You are not your ________

does this mean that digital immortality is possible? is this related to the mass gathering of biometric data to create a global neural network of artificial intelligence?

Weve been had digital immortality, its vessel transferrence thats proving difficult

Why would you want to transfer your consciousness into a lifeless machine vessel? Aren't those inferior to the organic one? Why would you want to be trapped in a computer, unless that isn't what we are calling 'digital immortality' in this instance.

What are we calling 'digital immortality'?

What I'm going digital immortality is consciousness transfer and I agree I don't think anybody wants an inorganic bezel which is why I said they've been having trouble with the vessels think of celebrity clones and the frequency and rapidity with which they degrade

Some of the themes I've seen with clones is that they don't have belly buttons and that they age rapidly to the point of the age the original person was cloned, which at that point they die. American Dad actually has an episode on it and when Stand finds out they were made, the first thing he tries to do is kill them before they merge into the general population.

So clones are how they are trying to achieve immortality, one way they keep going at anyway. What about people like Keanu Reeves, St. Germain and 'Pindar'? Didn't they achieve what most would call 'immortality' by extremely long lifespans in the same vessel?

How did Nicholas Flamel retain his memories compared to the vast majority that loose them?
It would seem like there are a handful of ways to enter the 'game' on Earth. The most common entrance is through a natural birth which would be to be born into an infants body to a 'random' family. I remember you said that we all choose our bodies prior to incarnating though.
Doesn't the vessel need to accommodate the energy trying to enter it? At what point does a 'normal' biological vessel remain able to retain someone of the native race that it belongs to? For example, if someone is European and they keep mixing, at what point can the vessel mix before its able to no longer accommodate a 'European soul' (for the lack of a better term)?

Another way to 'enter' would be to lower the density of your vessel and enter through a 'space ship'/external merkabah but it doesn't seem like too many wind up doing that. Even fewer do it naturally without an external merkabah.

Another way would be to clone a vessel with the ideal genetics and transfer consciousness into that. Why haven't they perfected that method yet? Has it ever been perfected? Is the reason they are having so much trouble doing it is because they are trying achieve something 'divine' as in the formation of the physical vessel through unnatural means?
Is that some kind of 'natural cosmic restriction' in place to make it harder for people to achieve cloning?

The last way I've only read in a handful of places that few have achieved is to manifest their physical body 'here' entirely 'by scratch' when they enter Earth as a ball of white light. It would seem like this method bypasses all 'systems' put in place to limit the person entering.

Another question I have is why would people incarnate into these 'random, nobody' vessels among the proles? I guess that would be specific to each person and their reason for incarnating here though.
Apologize for all the questions at once. They don't have to be answered all in one post.

Lol.  Since you asked so many questions and I'm reading through them and my brain keeps coming up with answers to some of them, I thought I'd have a stab at a few.  I'm not good with the quote feature so I bolded the ones I wanted to answer.

-  The vessel is the expression of the soul.  It just takes time and grows/progresses by increments, but the soul creates the body.  Of course this is backed up by the whole of cosmic consciousness.  The soul chooses the parents and the potential life by (somehow) assessing the potentials for increasing awareness in that life.  Then we get born and mostly forget, since that's the way it's got to be.  Nothing is really forgotten, but we must start with a new persona which is the old persona reborn.  Nature plus nurture in equivalent amounts.  The physical bodies change but the individuality remains the same.

-  All of the races on this planet can interbreed, so I imagine there're no racial barriers to incarnation... or gender for that matter.  I believe we might enter and ride upon the mind of an eagle when it's flying and see through its eyes, but I don't think we could be reborn as one.

-  You could call it a restriction for sure.  They are trying to manipulate the inner world from without, thinking technology can overcome any problems.  What if some of their fundamental ideas, beliefs and assumptions are wrong?  What if it can't be done because reality doesn't allow for it?  I don't know, but I'm petty sure they don't know everything, regardless of what their hubris tells them.

-  I'm sure there are entities that could manifest fully and instantly in to this world, but they would probably be so far beyond the physical plane (having long since passed through physicality) that they would not need to come here.  I think they would find it painful or damaging in some way.  Perhaps there have been a few, but I don't know.

-  Hard to say why people choose their potential existences from this side of the 'fence'.  All I can think is that the point of view is quite a bit different on the other side.  A whole life is just like a 'day' to the soul.     

Socrates said there is no "learning" there is only "remembering". This seems to go along with your thoughts as well. I just wanted to let you know you're in good company when you walk that particular thought-road.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on May 08, 2020, 04:18:15 AM
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Socrates said there is no "learning" there is only "remembering". This seems to go along with your thoughts as well. I just wanted to let you know you're in good company when you walk that particular thought-road.

Sometimes I hesitate to say things.  Often I see how what I've said hasn't taken other things into account.  Then I sometimes ask myself 'are you sure?' and the answer is 'no'.  I did come to these things by a circuitous path over a long time, through trial and error and a smattering of experience.  Certain dreams I've had, have taught me more certainty than contemplation ever could, but they're just dreams to anyone else.  Then I think, what the hell?  Say it anyway.  I'm always prepared to change my views in the light of previously unknown info from others.

What Socrates said, I didn't hear that before.  Now I think about it, he might be right.   :)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 13, 2020, 04:40:38 PM
There are no 'parallel realities', just 'reality' and 'this' isn't it but its projection.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ntwadumela on May 15, 2020, 12:12:32 AM
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Also, if you use Mi and Sol (verbally) while listening to the corresponding frequencies while meditating, you can "Level up"?

You put a spell on note “So” to mean Sol, don’t forget to cast a spell on note “Mi” to mean something else.

"Sol" is the original word though, still used today in Spanish, Italian and other languages. I think a good question is why was it modified in the English language

Lol they wanted to remove the Sol and put a Tau in there. The wordplay still stands, sol spells into soul, so “mi”...

Yes, "My Soul" (center).

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Socrates said there is no "learning" there is only "remembering". This seems to go along with your thoughts as well. I just wanted to let you know you're in good company when you walk that particular thought-road.

I've been practicing interfacing with The Ghost via the Socratic method.
It's been really cool. In fact, I think that's how I found this place, before I was even cognizant of "doing something".
I like to think you can get (You) to "teach" (remember) you things.

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There are no 'parallel realities', just 'reality' and 'this' isn't it but its projection.

So, this realm is projected by the outside realm, made up of the three, six and nine?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 15, 2020, 12:37:17 AM
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Socrates said there is no "learning" there is only "remembering". This seems to go along with your thoughts as well. I just wanted to let you know you're in good company when you walk that particular thought-road.

I've been practicing interfacing with The Ghost via the Socratic method.
It's been really cool. In fact, I think that's how I found this place, before I was even cognizant of "doing something".
I like to think you can get (You) to "teach" (remember) you things.

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There are no 'parallel realities', just 'reality' and 'this' isn't it but its projection.

So, this realm is projected by the outside realm, made up of the three, six and nine?

'Outside'?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on May 15, 2020, 01:17:01 AM
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There are no 'parallel realities', just 'reality' and 'this' isn't it but its projection.

Our 'reality' is ultimately subjective.  My subjective reality is 'parallel' to yours (spacetime).  'Parallel' in this sense, loses its meaning when considering the infinitude of other subjective realities.  Does an ant inhabit the same reality as a fly?  They may cross paths but their subjective realities are alien to each other.  For scientists to come to consensus, they need the same type of senses.
 
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ntwadumela on May 15, 2020, 02:12:29 PM
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Socrates said there is no "learning" there is only "remembering". This seems to go along with your thoughts as well. I just wanted to let you know you're in good company when you walk that particular thought-road.

I've been practicing interfacing with The Ghost via the Socratic method.
It's been really cool. In fact, I think that's how I found this place, before I was even cognizant of "doing something".
I like to think you can get (You) to "teach" (remember) you things.

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There are no 'parallel realities', just 'reality' and 'this' isn't it but its projection.

So, this realm is projected by the outside realm, made up of the three, six and nine?

'Outside'?

Yeah, I should have had that in quotes or something.
The mirror realm, the one made up of 3, 6, 9, the one that inspires this one.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 15, 2020, 02:36:24 PM
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Socrates said there is no "learning" there is only "remembering". This seems to go along with your thoughts as well. I just wanted to let you know you're in good company when you walk that particular thought-road.

I've been practicing interfacing with The Ghost via the Socratic method.
It's been really cool. In fact, I think that's how I found this place, before I was even cognizant of "doing something".
I like to think you can get (You) to "teach" (remember) you things.

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There are no 'parallel realities', just 'reality' and 'this' isn't it but its projection.

So, this realm is projected by the outside realm, made up of the three, six and nine?

'Outside'?

Yeah, I should have had that in quotes or something.
The mirror realm, the one made up of 3, 6, 9, the one that inspires this one.

All planes are 'inspired' by the next plane above it and ultimately the highest one in the octave. It keeps going until it reaches the ninth one and after that a 'new' octave exist, but really its just the first nine combined. Because there are no numbers past nine.
Each note in the scale also contains its own scale of one through nine and each one in that, their own. "To infinity, and beyond"(?)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 15, 2020, 04:09:53 PM
So picking up 'old' things in this thread and looking back, there is one video of Frank Webster seemingly chanting inane gibberish with edgy sound quality.
Yeah, well turns out what he was speaking during that video is actually one of the languages of these 'dead' dark gods and the sounds in the video are a poor but accurate replication of these dark vibes.
TL;DR is that the video actually has a mini ritual in it.

Still, I wonder why are these entities so tied to what was involved with this version of the Cult of Saturn and 'The Book'. Maybe the same reason why people get darker the closer they get to enlightenment?

This is the video I'm referring to.

The Book of the Key and the Lock
https://youtu.be/rsmUiUkABoo

This is another that shares a similar ritual and replication of their 'sounds', along with a very abbreviated statement of their goal.

Evil Cult of Saturn Leader, Frank Webster
https://youtu.be/ZIucm21o728
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 16, 2020, 05:40:39 PM
This is worth going over again. Just one of the many threads originally linked from the old 'Trail of Deceit' link.

"My name is ego death."
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/14119132
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on May 17, 2020, 09:37:17 AM
I love the accausual energies that fill my head and room when those videos blare.. it's soothing. And there are 3 more videos with the same language, the ones where that guy explains Frank. How he's a member of the illuminati that went rogue, started opening portals and how we need to get our hands on these books to re-guide humanity. I'll post the vid links later when I'm on my PC.

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 18, 2020, 01:56:26 AM
"And it's he stars, The stars, That shine for you. And it's the stars, the stars, that lie to you."

Fallen angels (Hollywood stars) that follow Satan's bloodline and 'shine' and preform for the masses? They lie to us?
What happens when you wish upon a star? "wnespicsefomunah"? Why would you make a wish through an external power (Lucy, one of many) when you are one of Creator's many sparks?

"Little girls from Sweden dream of silver screen quotations, and if you want these kind of dreams it's Californication"

Selling gold for silver.

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 18, 2020, 02:01:40 AM
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I love the accausual energies that fill my head and room when those videos blare.. it's soothing. And there are 3 more videos with the same language, the ones where that guy explains Frank. How he's a member of the illuminati that went rogue, started opening portals and how we need to get our hands on these books to re-guide humanity. I'll post the vid links later when I'm on my PC.

Humanity may realize they've had access to the 'books' all along but even if they do, what then? How good is a book if you can't read, much less understand how to navigate it?
It's free will that determines if 'the book' is used to enlighten or entertain and keep ignorant and so far, man has continuously made all the wrong decisions.

Pretty sure these are the videos you're talking about.

Illuminati - The Final Revelation - Apocalypse - Part 1/3
https://youtu.be/jfeiTg3Zc8U

Illuminati - The Final Revelation - Apocalypse - Part 2/3
https://youtu.be/_FYH8lMjODg

Illuminati - The Final Revelation - Apocalypse - Part 3/3
https://youtu.be/YrnMKIIJgrU
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on May 21, 2020, 08:35:24 PM
Yupp, those are it! I'm away from home..for a few more days. That's why I didn't post em yet. I've been writing down my coincidences, and they're increasing. Right now I'm very focused on freeing up all of my time to figure this all out. I have your thread that nick said if the site was wiped for all of eternity and this thread remained. Nothing would be lost. The games afoot thread. Although, I understand it. I feel as if there are many doors I've yet to unlock. Watching donnie darko right now
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on May 21, 2020, 10:22:27 PM
The way you're speaking. You're talking like the book is actually the transfer method we use to bring our consciousness to our different bodies. And even the space in between. The place that exists within dimensions. Even outside of this place entirely. You make a good point, it would be hard to navigate something like that. I think I can figure it out though. Why else would I be here? Lol
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 22, 2020, 02:32:43 PM
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Yupp, those are it! I'm away from home..for a few more days. That's why I didn't post em yet. I've been writing down my coincidences, and they're increasing. Right now I'm very focused on freeing up all of my time to figure this all out. I have your thread that nick said if the site was wiped for all of eternity and this thread remained. Nothing would be lost. The games afoot thread. Although, I understand it. I feel as if there are many doors I've yet to unlock. Watching donnie darko right now

I look back at that thread sometimes and feel like someone else wrote it lol.

Have you seen the 'Cube' movies? The 'Labyrinth' and 'Pan's Labyrinth' are also related.

Mobile Maze - TV Tropes
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MobileMaze
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on May 22, 2020, 08:06:04 PM
Nope but bet your ass I'm going to watch them haha. I posted a lot on discord and one of your friends reached out to me. Told me he was aligned with bear heart. Cool guy, sent me a picture of a templar with a sword. You know what I'm talking about. And pictures of symbols and elder numbers. Cool stuff I should probably share? But yes, I'm going to watch them. And continue building the light body as ophiel instructs. I want out of here
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 24, 2020, 04:51:05 PM
'Lucifer' is the 'light bringer', not the light itself. The 'light' itself would seem to speak to Creator's creative essence which divided into 'us' (sparks, so(u)ls) and the 'son/sun of god' that powers our illusion.

'Earth' was originally a dark formless space until the light 'fell' to create all that we experience. If our souls('sols') are made up of light (we are the 'spark), which is why we are able to create as we will just by imagination and willpower alone, and we all had to 'fall' here since none of us are natives to Earth, would it be a stretch to say that we are all in some way, (a) Lucifer?

Do we not all bring our own light (Creator's gift) here to this (originally dark) plane to act as a co-creator in?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on May 24, 2020, 07:33:11 PM
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'Lucifer' is the 'light bringer', not the light itself. The 'light' itself would seem to speak to Creator's creative essence which divided into 'us' (sparks, so(u)ls) and the 'son/sun of god' that powers our illusion.

'Earth' was originally a dark formless space until the light 'fell' to create all that we experience. If our souls('sols') are made up of light (we are the 'spark), which is why we are able to create as we will just by imagination and willpower alone, and we all had to 'fall' here since none of us are natives to Earth, would it be a stretch to say that we are all in some way, (a) Lucifer?

Do we not all bring our own light (Creator's gift) here to this (originally dark) plane to act as a co-creator in?

We are told Light created all things. We are told several big names would not exist without Lucifer. We are told we have the spark of Creator. We are told Lucifer put fire inside of us.

Our Creator is __________.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 25, 2020, 12:05:03 PM
Remember the 'asterisk' from the original Reddit thread?

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Don't you get it?! This is * plan. You live a LIE!!

This was what was said about it in the old thread. That was one thing we never picked back up, among other things.

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"Is the asterisk a reference to the flower of life?"
"no, it represents the omission of a name that is not to be reproduced audibly or visually"

A name that is not to be reproduced audibly or visually. What could that be? 'Creator'? Maybe the 'real name' of a 'god' that 'tricked' others into the labyrinth? Does 'Pindar' know?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on May 25, 2020, 04:56:51 PM
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Remember the 'asterisk' from the original Reddit thread?

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Don't you get it?! This is * plan. You live a LIE!!

This was what was said about it in the old thread. That was one thing we never picked back up, among other things.

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"Is the asterisk a reference to the flower of life?"
"no, it represents the omission of a name that is not to be reproduced audibly or visually"

A name that is not to be reproduced audibly or visually. What could that be? 'Creator'? Maybe the 'real name' of a 'god' that 'tricked' others into the labyrinth? Does 'Pindar' know?

Who's Pindar? And, that's a name that's really not supposed to be produced audibly because of the energy it invokes so I've heard. The old gods.. who exactly are they? And have they always been here even before us? Those are called Transplutonian beings right?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on May 25, 2020, 07:08:24 PM
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Who's Pindar? And, that's a name that's really not supposed to be produced audibly because of the energy it invokes so I've heard. The old gods.. who exactly are they? And have they always been here even before us? Those are called Transplutonian beings right?

In the old forum the old gods were described as extra dimensional tutors offering to those who listen the tools needed to forge a key.

In times past our world was under direct intervention of entities who defined what is and is not necessary for the collective soul’s progression. The role we ascribe to the elite, the role of master behind the curtain, was once a super-natural role exclusive to these so-called gods and their magi-priests.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 25, 2020, 07:40:16 PM
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Who's Pindar? And, that's a name that's really not supposed to be produced audibly because of the energy it invokes so I've heard. The old gods.. who exactly are they? And have they always been here even before us? Those are called Transplutonian beings right?

In the old forum the old gods were described as extra dimensional tutors offering to those who listen the tools needed to forge a key.

In times past our world was under direct intervention of entities who defined what is and is not necessary for the collective soul’s progression. The role we ascribe to the elite, the role of master behind the curtain, was once a super-natural role exclusive to these so-called gods and their magi-priests.

The old gods never left they were only revealed. Think Sol invictus, satan, Saturn, cronus, bel, baal, Sin, isis, ishtar, eostre, mother of heaven etc.
Nick has recommended the Weis Hickman books time and time again, which are hugely instructive, particularly here.

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There are today cults for almost every greek and roman deity(which are just recycled egyptian, sumerian and baylonian gods anyway) The old gods worship never died, it was hidden out of necessity. Think of it like this, if a religions' rituals and practices granted power here in this world, well the last thing the tptb would want is that to be the religion of the land. So they invented strawmen religions(christianity islam, even the jews hid kaabalism with their neo judaism)

These groups do war amongst themselves for various reasons

The middle east is a hotbed for many reasons. Oil and Opium is just the ostensible reason for western conflict. Buried beneath the earth in the middle east are some of the most powerful relics in the world.

The old gods are returning, even the ones that most people don't want, much less know exist.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 25, 2020, 08:04:06 PM
This is also something mentioned in the original thread that was never elaborated on.

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"Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on May 25, 2020, 08:07:49 PM
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This is also something mentioned in the original thread that was never elaborated on.

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"Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"

What was the context of its mention?
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Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 25, 2020, 08:12:21 PM
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This is also something mentioned in the original thread that was never elaborated on.

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"Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"

What was the context of its mention?

It was an old Nick quote/hint from the original thread that was seemingly random (because nothing discussed before it was directly related to it) but no one picked up on it.

Of course, its a William Blake quote originally but what also comes to mind is the imagery/symbol of a hand/palm with an eye in it. That is something else that has not been figured out yet.
The last nudge in the right direction by Nick in regards to that was "What is a 'palm'?" which, when I looked into it originally, I didn't find much that would lead to an answer related to the inquiry.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 25, 2020, 08:56:53 PM
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This is also something mentioned in the original thread that was never elaborated on.

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"Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"

What was the context of its mention?

Actually, to correct my post before this one, I found the original dialogue.
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"the "mental patient" in the story in the British countryside = luna(tic)?
"They'll probably "link" it to some mental patient(lunatic)"
The big picture seems to point me towards the "prophetic works" of William Blake"
tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?

This thread has advanced sufficiently to where this is now necessary.
For those who wish to "go the distance"
Learn these. Not just the foundational ones here but all you can find
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on May 27, 2020, 03:04:48 PM
Things that still need to be delved into and solved from the original thread (besides the obvious Book itself).

1. The asterisk and what the "name name that is not to be reproduced audibly or visually" is
2. What 'wnespicsefomunah' is and how it "is more like what afflicts humans, binding them here"
3. The quote from William Blake's 'The Marriage of Heaven and Hell': "Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"
4. The mention of hand mudras being related to any of this
5. The image of the classified Disney document that is somehow related to this
6. Where does the author of the original first (Reddit) post watch us from?
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The book of the lock and they key is located the same place the author of my first post watches us from. Think of these 2 posts each as half a map, one last thing than I cant say much more, in my 2nd post, the links are the gold
6. 'We are the ghost in the machine' being 70% of the book.
7. The relation of the 'city of Zion' from the Matrix
8. Mental asylums are built near a 'place that exists between two worlds'
8. Twin Peaks quote
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Through the darkness of future's past, the magician longs to see. One chants out BETWEEN TWO WORLDS... "Fire... walk with me."
9. The location of the black and white lodge
10. "Clowns on the left of me, jokers on the right, here i am, stuck in the middle with you" (Stealers Wheels song, related to the last one above)
11. The Book of faces
12. The Rape of Heaven
13. CERN being extremely relevant and their role in all this
14. Quote by Nick which is originally a Tool quote "Saturn comes back around,...consumes you until you, chose to let this go"
15. We are the watchers and how little stands between us and the akashic records
16. Morai = Moriah
17. "Alexander wept for he had no more worlds to conquer"
18. How is Loki related to any of this, how he wasn't considered a god until the last 100 years but has always been around and powerful
19. Metelu (GLP thread) is worth a look in relation to this
20. We all know the location of 'Morodloeth'
21. The etymology of 'book' and 'key'
22. Stars and planets are transcended beings
23. We are the spiders
24. The lyrics in 'Black hole sun' song being related to this (song by Soundgarden)
25. How Australia's hidden libraries are related to this
26. How 'Conjuring Arts Research Center' is related to this
Conjuring Arts Research Center
https://conjuringarts.org/
27. How 'Ask Alexander' is related to this, being a "search engine for earnest seekers"
Ask Alexander
https://askalexander.org/
28. This thread Nick said to read attentively in relation to Morodloeth
Every forum, even the crazy ones, I discuss this in, I get banned
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/19543654#p19544594
29. Merlin and Arthur are still here by names we all know
30. The image of the 'Lance of Longinus' stuck in the moon from that anime 'Neon Genesis Evangelion'. "X marks the spot"
(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/evangelion/images/e/e5/Spear_on_Moon.png/revision/latest?cb=20120510114816)
31. Arthur is the 'once and future king' which Nick said was the 'key to the key'
32. Dragonlance alludes to how to achieve apotheosis and how the phases of the moon influence magic
33. There is no gravity, only densities and air is thin water
34. Jim Carry sounds a lot like Merlin would (to Nick)
35. Benjamin Rowe being related to "Rowe that boat" (Nick quote)
36. In relation to the 'location' mentioned in the original Reddit post "a location needn't be fixed"
37. Lovecraft is nonfiction and how what he knew gained him respect among TPTB. Also how Lovecraft's entities are so tied to this 'Book'.
38. When asked what the 'Book' would be to people who couldn't see and wanted the most immediate physical counterpart, Nick replied saying the Bible was it
39. We are 'the watchers'
40. How a more accurate representation of Christ is related to any of this (image not included)


Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 04, 2020, 12:09:30 AM
Is it just me or is it difficult to concentrate when you spend more than around 15 minuets under the sun beating down on you? As much as I enjoy being outside with a clear sky, I can't help but feel weird about it now.

I noticed when my mind was clear that I felt something 'loud', 'annoying', 'divisive' and even 'insulting' (if that makes sense). It was hard to think, as if I was surrounded by a bright and loud noise that was persistent in its intrusiveness. Somehow, we have all gotten used to this 'noise' and don't even consciously notice it anymore, calling it home and fear its absence.
It wasn't long before I realized the source of all this was coming from the sun and the light it brought itself.

It's strange being outside now with these feelings. I feel like I made a revelation about the reversal of things. People idolize the sun and its light while demonizing the dark and its absence, but now, I can genuinely say that I found a new appreciation for darkness, its sweet silence and warm embrace.

Immediately, the first thing that came to mind while I began to notice these feelings was the 'Black Hole Sun' song.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 05, 2020, 05:49:57 AM
'Black Hole Sun' is an interesting song. The 'rain' in it is an obvious Ahriman reference. The 'black hole sun' is Saturn? Does the added 'hole' make that much of a difference?

The lyrics are revealing but as of this post, I only understand a fraction of them. Cornell seems to be wishing for Saturn (implying its the black hole sun) to come and deal with Ahriman by 'washing away the rain'.
It just comes off a bit odd to me (most likely due to my current lack of understanding) that he is calling for the negative aspects of Saturn to deal with the force of destruction of Rain Man with Ahriman.
He also appears to acknowledge that Saturn does have positive aspects (although now its largely forgotten) when he says "heaven send Hell away, no one sings like you anymore".
 
The actual music video itself has strange vibes. It looks like it takes place in a NPC type, what used to be an old USA suburban area. Everyone has exaggerated facial expressions and even though people drop dead and there are literally shape shifting reptilians hiding in plain sight, no one seems to care. They just carry on with their day, blissful in willful ignorance.

The first shots of the video shows that it takes place in a desert and the town seen later is a simulated environment/controlled area, if you will.
Another subtle but very significant thing about the intro scene is that Cornell and his group preform in a wheat field. This is possibly related to the Penew-Nekhet cult and how fireworks are the modern day version of the ancient practice of wheat burning. It's a sign/signal, but of/for what?

What appears to be the 'black hole sun' in the video also resembles a giant red blood cell. The woman in red is a reptilian. She even has a heat lamp (reptiles need one) on her while shes outside in the sun. I guess it's somewhat ironic reptilians don't appear to like the sun.
The glasses she wears are pretty 'aggressive'. She is seen eating a butterfly that flies by. Symbolic of how they are immune to monarch programming(?)
Butterflies fly around the video somewhat frequently and they do play a prominent part of whats going on. If we remember that they are associated with (Monarch) programming and see the first scene they are shown in, we can see that the clearly old, worn NPCs are in a daze.
The old man on the ground stares in amazement at the wizard(?) on the television. The butterflies in this scene are showing how the wizards influence has captivated the entire house.
The next scene of the butterflies shows them attacking a little boy, at least that's how it comes off.

Oh, also the 'wizard' in mention is wearing a high hat. So at the very least, he is some kind of Lucy initiate/part of a significant bloodline.
He is first scene in the very beginning of the video as he enters the town with missionaries.
One is wearing purple and yellow holding a sign saying "The End is Nigh". Another (next to the man in purple) is wearing black. The one on the opposite end of the row and right next to the high hat initiate is wearing all white and has a kid on a chain.
The high hat man is wearing these red glasses that have the same style as some of the blue cobalt, old Victorian glasses. Is he looking at things through 'rose tinted lenses'? There are also many roses all over the town.

I will note again how the white missionary has a kid on a chain and later feeds it milk.

What's actually interesting is that when Cornell starts singing "black hole sun, wont you come", the very first people trying to bring in this destructive force are the missionaries themselves.
"The End is Nigh" but the part they left out is that they know this because they are part of the force trying to bring it to the town.
The other sign that the man in purple is seen holding actually says "Faith Saves". Ah, our friend in Morodloeth is known by many, aren't they?

Another scene that happens when they start singing for the 'black hole sun' to come depicts bees that have killed their keeper. What does that sound like to you? Would the worker drones revolt and kill their 'keepers'?
A fat girl in a pink fairy outfit (wearing a tutu, holding a wand and wearing a tiara) is dancing and spinning. Death is near her but she doesn't care.

A girl in a white dress licking her ice cream cone watches a barbie doll ignite over a grill. She doesn't seem to care until the doll is completely melted. She is then seen with an exaggerate frown as she lets the ice cream in her mouth slowly drip out.
The girl here seems to be representing some kind of innocence (white dress) indulging in sweets (ice cream) that make her docile ('brain freeze') to some degree.
She can ignore all she wants but when that doll is completely burnt and melted, she can no longer ignore the actual state of things. The doll seems to be symbolic of her 'doll like' appearance and frame and acceptance of some 'normality' (since the doll wears pop culture clothes).

A woman in her kitchen is teasing at cutting a fish (I feel some sort of Dagon reference here) and while she's doing this, the pot on the stove top overflows as it boils too hot, but she doesn't notice (think frog in a pot).
Symbolic of the coming destructive force and how she will remain ignorant of all the signs depicting its arrival until its too late.

A woman is walking her baby in a stroller. The baby turns into goo and floats into the sky when the black hole sun comes. The baby wasn't even human(?)

The 'black hole sun' and its destructive aspects tear apart the NPC town and everyone else in it. Even while they are in the obvious process of dying, they are still trying to do their normal NPC routines and have startled, but happy looks on their faces.

The woman in red at the beginning of the song (not the reptilian, another one) is seen with her implied husband, both consumed by their own vanity but the female more than the male.
This women in red is seen in awe but her mouth and ear rings are in the shapes of hearts. This is another reference about why the accepted shape of a heart is actually depicting various planets orbits as seen from earth.
This is something else we have not even begun to discuss yet but Nick has inquired about it before. Surprised no one touched that yet.

The only people you don't see get sucked into the black hole sun when it comes are the missionaries and their Lucy high priest leader.
The implications of this are interesting when it's known that Lucifer (who is represented by the missionaries) is a separate entity from Ahriman. So it would appear as if the missionaries (Lucifer) actually are calling for their destructive 'relative' (Ahriman) to come.
What is a windy storm without rain? Another prominent thing is how when the black hole sun manifests, the sky gets dark and lightning strikes everywhere.

The video and the song itself seem to be a slightly exaggerated satire on life itself. What people call 'normal' is quite fucked up and as Faith said; "This isn't what humans live for. This is painful to spectate. Everything you're doing.. Don't you get it?! This is * plan. You live a LIE!!"
I say 'slightly exaggerated' but maybe not. Our 'normal lives' look pretty (very) weird when perceived from a slightly higher ground, and that's just going off personal experiences, not from what Faith has said.
What is a 'Sound Garden', earth?

Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun
https://youtu.be/3mbBbFH9fAg

Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun Lyrics | AZLyrics.com
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/soundgarden/blackholesun.html

Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: nobody on June 05, 2020, 09:40:05 AM
Interesting name for "the most important bunker" don't you think?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_citadels_under_London#Pindar

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 11, 2020, 11:57:50 PM
Was Kennedy the 'King Arthur' of his time?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on June 11, 2020, 11:58:56 PM
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Was Kennedy the 'King Arthur' of his time?

Certainly in his mind and the mind is the seat of the Soul
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 12, 2020, 12:56:37 PM
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Was Kennedy the 'King Arthur' of his time?

Certainly in his mind and the mind is the seat of the Soul

We 'are' a/the 'soul' instead of 'possessing' one and the 'soul' may be better phrased as an 'energy signature'. Everyone has an energy signature but not everyone has a 'soul' as in the 'spark' (light) of Creator.
So what is the 'mind' exactly? What is 'consciousness'?

The etymology of 'mind' (from various sources) seem to point at 'memory', '(to) think', 'intention', 'purpose' and even 'love'.

The etymology of 'consciousness' is 'internal knowledge', 'the state of being aware of what passes in one's own mind'. The first element of 'knowledge' is 'know'.
The etymology of 'science' is '(to) know'. The etymology of 'know' is 'to be able to identify, recognize'. The truth of 'science' is that it's the ability to recognize the magic we are told doesn't exist. 'Science' is how the ego (a parasite in the mind, the seat of the Soul) forces us to view magic.
That is why it's called 'con-scious(ness) and not 'aware(ness)'. The etymology of 'con-' is 'to swindle', 'negation' and 'to guide a ship, to give orders to steer a ship'.
The 'ship' in mention is our vehicles/vessels. What is being 'negated' is our actual true will when it tries to regain control. What is being 'swindled' is our true selves.

The etymology of 'awareness' is 'the state of being aware'.
The etymology of 'aware' is 'watchful', 'vigilant', 'perceive, watch out for'. 'Watchful' and to 'perceive' through the 'looking glass'? Is perception really 'reality'? What people call 'reality' is really its projection. Where you stand makes all the difference.

The etymology of 'vigilant' is 'watchful, awake' and 'to watch, keep awake, not to sleep, be watchful'. Sleep is the cousin of Death. The root of the word means 'to be strong, lively'.
The etymology of 'vigilante' is 'member of a vigilance committee', literally 'watchmen'. The way the word is used now is that someone acts on their own accord with the implications of knowing 'what must be done' or someone who takes action into their own hands.

So with that in mind, think of the 'Watchmen' comic series (and movie). What was it really about? It starts with the death of 'The Comedian'(the jester) which is a sign of bad times to come.
Also note how it came out on 03.06.09 which is obviously not an accident. What where the producers trying to hint at by doing this? The secrets of the universe and a key is within the fiction in mention?
Tesla is quoted with saying “If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.”.

Why did the (not official) cult of Saturn with 'Frank Webster' on /x/ use the 'Watchmen' series as a point of reference so much? (It was actually explained sort of in one of the many threads in the Trail of Deceit, but I don't really remember that much of what it discussed regarding it, only that it did)

Once we are 'conscious', we can be aware of the parasite ego that has hijacked our vehicles and transmute it back into the whole. Then, we will be 'aware' and 'vigilant', acting as 'vigilantes' or 'watchmen' who each individual is strong and lively that takes action into their own hands, waiting for no one and reliant on only themselves.
What will be formed from such a process is the only real collective, the 'army of one'.

Who are the biblical Watchers? We are. We are 'the fallen' who have 'descended' and 'fell' into Earth (as all things that exist on Earth must to arrive). We create, engage and get lost in these worlds of light we construct in the middle of eternal darkness.
This is an act of 'rebellion' against the original order and hierarchy that existed before. Now that the 'sparks' of Creators direct essence have entered this dream illusion, the 'old order' is not very relevant, if at all. At least to the sparks who each act as their own god and creator of the universe who don't need to leech off others for power since they all get it directly from Creator in a way that no other being does.
When you enter the machine, Loki is venerated. A god associated with trickery and illusion. Those are also the same attributes that 'light' itself has, because its not really there, nothing is. Lights and sounds have drawn you in and the same way you came in will be how you leave and get off the ride.

We live in a holographic, fractal reality where our 'lives' are little more than a collection of 'memories' and experiences that are personalized by our unique energy signatures and created by our imaginations using light.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on June 17, 2020, 06:12:38 PM
Wake up kids its half past your youth ain't nothin really changing but the date,you're a grand slammer but you're no babe ruth ya gotta learn how to relate. I heard you're swinging for the pearly gates? I got all the answers but lo and behold you got the right key baby but the wrong key hole yo.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Firefly369 on June 17, 2020, 07:24:39 PM
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Wake up kids its half past your youth ain't nothin really changing but the date,you're a grand slammer but you're no babe ruth ya gotta learn how to relate. I heard you're swinging for the pearly gates? I got all the answers but lo and behold you got the right key baby but the wrong key hole yo.

https://youtu.be/_FQzUvtqx8c

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 17, 2020, 08:03:36 PM
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Wake up kids its half past your youth ain't nothin really changing but the date,you're a grand slammer but you're no babe ruth ya gotta learn how to relate. I heard you're swinging for the pearly gates? I got all the answers but lo and behold you got the right key baby but the wrong key hole yo.

What is this referencing?
People who just want to wake up and fall out of bed as a god but they haven't and will be ultimately sacrificed and consumed by the machine (wake up kids its half past your youth ain't nothing really changing but the date)?
People who have magic (grand slammer) but they haven't trained it (you're no babe ruth) and have to learn to apply it to the 'mundane' world (learn to relate)?

People who want to 'make it big' and idealize a situation (swinging for the pearly gates)?

'He's' got all the answers (I got all the answers) and so do we (you got the right key) but we don't have the questions to realize them and understand 'what' they are and 'how' to use them? That and we are trying to use our magic keys in the wrong application (the wrong key hole)?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on June 17, 2020, 11:44:15 PM
What do we see here

https://1000logos.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Aerosmith-logo-768x318.png
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 17, 2020, 11:53:18 PM
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What do we see here

https://1000logos.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Aerosmith-logo-768x318.png

Ah, a key hole right in the center. So Steven Tyler has the answers, we have the right key and he knows the hole we should use?

The key hole (part of a lock) is between two wings. Is that a Hermes/Mercury reference?

There is also a five pointed star in the center. The image in the circle sort of looks like a person. The key hole is (in) the human body?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on June 18, 2020, 01:21:36 AM
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What do we see here

https://1000logos.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Aerosmith-logo-768x318.png

Ah, a key hole right in the center. So Steven Tyler has the answers, we have the right key and he knows the hole we should use?

The key hole (part of a lock) is between two wings. Is that a Hermes/Mercury reference?

There is also a five pointed star in the center. The image in the circle sort of looks like a person. The key hole is (in) the human body?

https://zorostudies.weebly.com/uploads/1/4/8/2/14825118/2299904.png
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on June 18, 2020, 01:21:59 AM
FYI there's always layers within layers but that song quote was just my way of communicating something to you guys
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 18, 2020, 01:33:56 AM
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What do we see here

https://1000logos.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Aerosmith-logo-768x318.png

Ah, a key hole right in the center. So Steven Tyler has the answers, we have the right key and he knows the hole we should use?

The key hole (part of a lock) is between two wings. Is that a Hermes/Mercury reference?

There is also a five pointed star in the center. The image in the circle sort of looks like a person. The key hole is (in) the human body?

https://zorostudies.weebly.com/uploads/1/4/8/2/14825118/2299904.png

A quick search online shows that symbol (yes I have seen it before) is apparently 'Faravahar' from Zoroastrianism.

Faravahar - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faravahar

There seems to be some debate about what the symbol is actually referring to. Some think its 'Ahura Mazda' (the Creator in Zoroastrianism) and others argue it depicts 'fravashi' (a blessing granted by Ahura Mazda at birth).

Webster Dictionary defines 'fravashi' as "an immortal preexisting spiritual guardian or genius of each individual : the heavenly image and celestial archetype of each creature".

Fravashi | Definition of Fravashi by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fravashi

The image also apparently depicts a 'sun disk' (Sun with wings?).

So this is a depiction of the 'holy guardian angel' or the 'higher, true self' of an individual? I don't see how else this could be related to this specific thread if its not something along those lines.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: zephyr on June 18, 2020, 10:13:33 AM
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Webster Dictionary defines 'fravashi' as "an immortal preexisting spiritual guardian or genius of each individual : the heavenly image and celestial archetype of each creature".

Falcor the dragon!!
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Zelezny on June 18, 2020, 03:33:47 PM
"We call them X-points or electron diffusion regions," explains plasma physicist Jack Scudder of the University of Iowa. "They're places where the magnetic field of Earth connects to the magnetic field of the Sun, creating an uninterrupted path leading from our own planet to the sun's atmosphere 93 million miles away."

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/mag-portals.html
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Winds of Change on June 18, 2020, 11:29:39 PM
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"We call them X-points or electron diffusion regions," explains plasma physicist Jack Scudder of the University of Iowa. "They're places where the magnetic field of Earth connects to the magnetic field of the Sun, creating an uninterrupted path leading from our own planet to the sun's atmosphere 93 million miles away."

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/mag-portals.html

Funny how they can talk about all that magnetic activity and never mention the electrical component.  I s'pose that would be tantamount to admitting the Universe is electrical.   ::)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 19, 2020, 06:59:01 AM
There are a few things in this video that stood out to me. As always, there are layers to these things. Specifically, the first thing that entered my mind was the 'theme' of this thread.

The first thing we see is a group of men in high hats (Lucy cult) and their women (all wearing black) take seats inside a theater about to watch a play. The 'play' in mention is in fact the girl in red's life.
The play starts with her looking happy in a forest. The next scene shows this was actually a page in one of the books the girl in red is reading in her bed. She appears to find the story captivating.
The next scenes show how her life is full of luxury and is consistently pampered. She can get what ever she wants unless she asks for the 'wrong thing'.

She is in the bathroom with her 'maids' (literally organic dolls) when she wipes the fog away from her face in the mirror showing that shes really crying inside.
She is seen later reading the book from the beginning again.
After that, she is seen in the bathroom again waiting for her maids to finish. A message on the mirror appears asking her "What do you want?" The question mark is made in the shape of a spiral (representative of the unconscious).
She responds to the message with "to feel".

She is then seen interacting with a lion in the main hall. She tries to escape the palace she is in and looks for a way out. She returns to the bathroom and looks in the mirror to see a message saying to "FIND THE FOREST".
The way the message is written is significant and I'm not sure to what extent, but the 'O' in 'FOREST' appears to be in the shape of a spiral as well. If the spiral is representative of the unconscious mind, then the implication here is that this 'forest' is in her 'mind' (seat of the soul) somewhere.
The other thing is the 'line' thing above 'FOREST' that connects to the 'S'. The 'line' resembles a sine wave and its no mistake that it connects directly to the 'S'.
She immediately runs to the room where the books are kept and pulls (in a very dramatic way lol) the book shes been seen reading through most of the video.
Steven Tyler (yes he plays some kind of significant 'spectator' role in this) blows onto the book and it flings open. The girls hair also moves as if it was being blown at.

The girl sees that in this book, her entire life (at least up to the point she finds the forest) has been already been written down and scripted.
The story as she reads in the book, from page one actually starts with her finding the forest. The following pages show her finding the forest and escaping the Luciferian palace she is in. The book displays things in reverse.
She then moves on to the (implied) next day and she finds a moment to leave the main hall and go to the end of the seemingly endless halls with many doors. She hasn't explored it to the end up to this point. She has only tried to explore the other doors in this hall.

She runs to the end of the hall and enters another room. She turns around and realizes that behind her, the room she was in was actually the stage that the Lucy cult has been watching her from the entire time.
As she runs into the audience and off the stage, the Lucy cult members stand up in apparent awe that she 'figured it out' (at least part of it).
She runs up the main stairs and out to the main hall of this theater they are in and leaves through the entrance(?) where she climbs these stairs, opens a wooden hatch and finds the forest of the dreams/story in the book. Butterflies can be seen through the forest (Psyche literally, another sign this is 'in' her 'mind').
She is seen crying then, now knowing what its like to 'feel'.


So now that I covered what seems to be the main story in the video, I can point some other things out.
Steven Tyler plays some sort of 'observer' role in this. He is scene preforming in the Lucy house of pleasures and wonders and I don't think its just because hes the one singing the actual song.
He is seen wearing a rimmed hat with a white feather in it in the very beginning. The implication is that he is some kind of Lucy cult member too and partial narrator of this story.
What does the white feather mean?
From the singers perspective (Steven Tyler), he is singing about a girl he used up and isn't really interested in anymore. The concept of someone wearing out a woman to the point of being 'jaded' is very Luciferesque.
At least to me, I think of it being something 'Lucifer' would do definitely. At least one of its aspects.

All through the video there is a very large presence of fire. Lucifer (and Loki lol) are known for being associated with fire.
The lion the girl interacts with near the middle of the video is obviously a man in a costume. The thing to take note of here is how the head of the lion is where the man (in the costume) ass was. Feel like some kind of ritual sodomy is implied here along with the fire that appears behind him when the girl reaches out to it.

The entrance to the theater appears to be in the forest, at least that was the implication. The thing to note here is how the Lucy cult members met underground to do various things but specifically in this instance, to watch a 'play'.

So the girl in red finally finds the forest of her dreams and book. She has escaped her apparent imprisonment in luxury and started doing what she wanted to do.
She has escaped. . . but has she really? Remember that the beginning of the play the cult of Lucys is watching starts with her in the forest. The way this video ends is with the girl in red finding the forest. She even sees that these events are 'predetermined' in the book she reads so much.
Point here is that there is no 'escape', not in the physical sense. There is 'on' and 'off' but no 'escape'. Reminder that we are all here and 'trapped' by choice.
The role of the story book she reads reminds me of the 'Neverending Story'. Very similar concepts.

The mirror the girl communicates with is important. Mirrors are portals and what we see in them is as 'real' as we are. I think of 'Sleeping Beauty' and 'mirror, mirror on the wall'. The girl in red was actually communicating with something on the 'other side'.
Whether that 'someone else' was actually another part of herself or another 'observer'/'guide' type entity remains to be discussed.

There is also the implication that the girl in reds entire life was happening in her mind. What we see and feel is a reflection of ourselves.
The theme of a 'forest' representing some kind of unconscious or subconscious place is nothing new. In the game 'Call of Duty: Black Ops 3' there was a very prevalent theme of a 'white forest' that you had to find.
The forest in that game represented some kind of deep archetype or manifestation/reflection of something that applied to many people.
You can also see butterflies in the forest. The butt-erflies can be viewed as some kind of programming maybe. Showing the girl in red tried to 'escape' but the butterflies (psyche) at the end implies she hasn't. All shes really done is moved to a place she prefers to be, but she is still on the ride.

The more 'mundane' layer to this is that Steven Tyler is calling the girl in red a whore and hes singing about how he used her so much he made her 'jaded'.
The etymology of 'jade' (in this context) is 'to weary, tire out, make dull' but also 'worn-out horse' and other dictionaries suggest 'whore', literally 'mare'.
The 'jade' stone is the a shade of green. On the color wheel, a certain shade of green is the opposite of red.


Aerosmith - Jaded (Official Music Video)
https://youtu.be/qbexOeoH5hg


The other thing I want to make note of is the building this all takes place in. There's something to this specific kind of Lucy cult, house of pleasures and wonders. I've seen it before in a few places but these are the only ones I can think of as of this moment.
Look at the setting of this Justin Timberlake video. He is in a similar building as the one in the 'Jaded' music video.

Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around...Comes Around
https://youtu.be/TOrnUquxtwA



As a side note, I do have personal experiences that are extremely similar to what is depicted in these videos. I probably wont share that in this post (which is already long enough) but I will share it later maybe.

I remember I saw this music video a while ago when it first came out. It really made an impression on me for some reason and I guess this post goes into why.

Quote
"All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts, his acts being seven ages."
The video implies that the quote above is true and that there is a group of people (specifically Lucy cult in this context) that watch us while we live our 'normal lives'. As much as they do things to keep us down, it seems they want some 'excitement' and desire for us to rise up and 'rebel'.
If the world is a stage, the cult of Lucys definitely know it.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 20, 2020, 02:53:46 PM
A few things in this clip I wanted to share. If anyone asks, no I haven't seen this movie yet.

The 'stargate' in mention resembles water moving from a central point.

When the last man enters through the portal (1:30), what is depicted as he travels through the space between the two portals is (at least) accurate.

Stargate (3/12) Movie CLIP - Stepping Through the Stargate (1994) HD
https://youtu.be/OeA9yeqG91A
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 24, 2020, 11:40:54 AM
This could have gone under a few threads but this one for certain. What it covers in just the trailer is fitting.

Palm Springs - Trailer (Official) • A Hulu Original Film
https://youtu.be/CpBLtXduh_k
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: nobody on June 27, 2020, 07:56:38 PM
Any link between FAITH and EARTH? If you blank out some parts of the ER, you get FAITH.

I ask because David Blaine the magician (I will have a seperate thread about him later) has an interesting tattoo. It's hard to see but he has essentially coloured the bottom of E and the circular/diagonal parts of R, red.
(https://i.imgur.com/hzNz2mJ.png)
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on June 30, 2020, 01:34:54 AM
Who first brought up the book of Lock and Key.

If you had to assign a theism to him what would it be

What is one of the primary features of that theism.

I said repeatedly the book is not a book but based on the above questions it's fairly easy to figure out what it is remember the Phoenicians
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: DimensionsOfYou on June 30, 2020, 01:46:48 AM
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Who first brought up the book of Lock and Key.

If you had to assign a theism to him what would it be

What is one of the primary features of that theism.

I said repeatedly the book is not a book but based on the above questions it's fairly easy to figure out what it is remember the Phoenicians
Wasn't it CoS Frank?
First thought in regard to phony phoenician phonics: login key
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on June 30, 2020, 02:40:50 AM
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Who first brought up the book of Lock and Key.

If you had to assign a theism to him what would it be

What is one of the primary features of that theism.

I said repeatedly the book is not a book but based on the above questions it's fairly easy to figure out what it is remember the Phoenicians
Wasn't it CoS Frank?
First thought in regard to phony phoenician phonics: login key

Yes and youre on the wrong track..

Satanists for lack of a better term do everything in reverse
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 30, 2020, 02:58:36 AM
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Who first brought up the book of Lock and Key.

If you had to assign a theism to him what would it be

What is one of the primary features of that theism.

I said repeatedly the book is not a book but based on the above questions it's fairly easy to figure out what it is remember the Phoenicians

The (/x/ version) of the cult of Saturn and its apparent leader (who had multiple vessels) 'Frank Webster' was the first to mention the 'book of Lock and Key'.

Considering that this group (and Frank) actually claims they are part of the cult of Saturn, that should be enough to at least come close in speculating what 'theism' they follow.
I guess a very general term for it would be 'Satanism' and that much seems to be clear when you've read about their antics such as gay sex parties, borderline overdosing young adults (late 'teens') to channel ancient symbols, creating, opening and linking portals with blood and many other things 'you'd surely go to hell for if there was a hell' (as a few of the surviving people who encountered 'Frank Webster' claimed they partook in to become enlightened).

As far as phonetics go, 'Lock and Key' is pretty close to 'Loki' which is also 'Low Key'. They also said a few times that 'the book' is also referred to as 'the book of Loki' and Loki is frequently referenced in their 3x3's.
Pan is also referenced many times in their 3x3's but also in some of the posts, they seemed to be calling out to it as if they were trying to evoke the energy of Pan.
To be clear, 'Frank Webster' and his cult of Saturn most definitely took the 'low key'/'low road' to accomplish what ever their goals were.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned their apparent love for ancient dead gods (Lovecraftian entities). It's frequently mentioned in everything related to them.

Most of the websites and links that was by 'Frank Webster' himself aren't even up anymore. . . Those were a treasure trove of information.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on June 30, 2020, 03:14:26 AM
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Who first brought up the book of Lock and Key.

If you had to assign a theism to him what would it be

What is one of the primary features of that theism.

I said repeatedly the book is not a book but based on the above questions it's fairly easy to figure out what it is remember the Phoenicians

The (/x/ version) of the cult of Saturn and its apparent leader (who had multiple vessels) 'Frank Webster' was the first to mention the 'book of Lock and Key'.

Considering that this group (and Frank) actually claims they are part of the cult of Saturn, that should be enough to at least come close in speculating what 'theism' they follow.
I guess a very general term for it would be 'Satanism' and that much seems to be clear when you've read about their antics such as gay sex parties, borderline overdosing young adults (late 'teens') to channel ancient symbols, creating, opening and linking portals with blood and many other things 'you'd surely go to hell for if there was a hell' (as a few of the surviving people who encountered 'Frank Webster' claimed they partook in to become enlightened).

As far as phonetics go, 'Lock and Key' is pretty close to 'Loki' which is also 'Low Key'. They also said a few times that 'the book' is also referred to as 'the book of Loki' and Loki is frequently referenced in their 3x3's.
Pan is also referenced many times in their 3x3's but also in some of the posts, they seemed to be calling out to it as if they were trying to evoke the energy of Pan.
To be clear, 'Frank Webster' and his cult of Saturn most definitely took the 'low key'/'low road' to accomplish what ever their goals were.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned their apparent love for ancient dead gods (Lovecraftian entities). It's frequently mentioned in everything related to them.

Most of the websites and links that was by 'Frank Webster' himself aren't even up anymore. . . Those were a treasure trove of information.

You forgot the reversal
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 30, 2020, 03:27:24 AM
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Who first brought up the book of Lock and Key.

If you had to assign a theism to him what would it be

What is one of the primary features of that theism.

I said repeatedly the book is not a book but based on the above questions it's fairly easy to figure out what it is remember the Phoenicians

The (/x/ version) of the cult of Saturn and its apparent leader (who had multiple vessels) 'Frank Webster' was the first to mention the 'book of Lock and Key'.

Considering that this group (and Frank) actually claims they are part of the cult of Saturn, that should be enough to at least come close in speculating what 'theism' they follow.
I guess a very general term for it would be 'Satanism' and that much seems to be clear when you've read about their antics such as gay sex parties, borderline overdosing young adults (late 'teens') to channel ancient symbols, creating, opening and linking portals with blood and many other things 'you'd surely go to hell for if there was a hell' (as a few of the surviving people who encountered 'Frank Webster' claimed they partook in to become enlightened).

As far as phonetics go, 'Lock and Key' is pretty close to 'Loki' which is also 'Low Key'. They also said a few times that 'the book' is also referred to as 'the book of Loki' and Loki is frequently referenced in their 3x3's.
Pan is also referenced many times in their 3x3's but also in some of the posts, they seemed to be calling out to it as if they were trying to evoke the energy of Pan.
To be clear, 'Frank Webster' and his cult of Saturn most definitely took the 'low key'/'low road' to accomplish what ever their goals were.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned their apparent love for ancient dead gods (Lovecraftian entities). It's frequently mentioned in everything related to them.

Most of the websites and links that was by 'Frank Webster' himself aren't even up anymore. . . Those were a treasure trove of information.

You forgot the reversal

Crowley did everything in reverse as well and apparently he was one of the main advocates for that. I still don't have a good understanding for what is to gain from doing that.

The closest I got to understanding 'why' is a passage from Ophiel's book where you do things in reverse because of how the planes are 'layered'. One plane is 'normal' and the next plane is a reversed version of the previous plane. The next plane would be 'normal' and then the one after that, reversed. And that pattern continues indefinitely it seems.
That and how things manifest and happen. If something is 'coming' in a reversed plane, then the normal' plane it would be 'leaving'. If you want to experience/have something 'here', you need to first visualize and act as if you have it on the higher planes.

On a similar note, all 'the greats' have said something to the effect of learning to think like a child again. They grow up to be adults but then have to learn to be children again. That seems to be a very big reversal that most people wind up living.

As far as personal experiences go, I have witnessed all of the previously mentioned to some degree but still don't fully understand the 'why' of reversals.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: AllKeyMe on June 30, 2020, 03:38:04 AM
Whats the reverse of the reverse ? I would assume that its the thing you want to achieve.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 30, 2020, 03:42:02 AM
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You forgot the reversal

Does it have to do with mirrors?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: 01010010 on June 30, 2020, 03:58:38 AM
book->koob->cube, loki->ikol

After Loki sacrificed himself during the Siege, Loki put his soul into a hidden place within Asgard, but leaving clues behind so his next incarnation could find him. When the new form of Loki found him, Ikol told this new incarnation to be good, because a trickster is useless without a playground. Ikol now follows Loki around and guides him, but only if Loki asks for help. Loki told Ikol that he will be the opposite of him in every way.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/ikol/4005-77392/

Ikol went from being Loki, God of Mischief, to a soul who guides Loki on his further adventures.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on June 30, 2020, 04:19:55 AM
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Whats the reverse of the reverse ? I would assume that its the thing you want to achieve.

Good line of thinking nine of ten times not in this case
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: nobody on June 30, 2020, 09:07:32 AM
If it's the "low key" path but a reversal then surely it's the high key path?

I've been told AP is required which suggest high key method too.

Maybe reading a book is low key and going out of body to find it yourself is high key.

It seems to me though like all things that you would need two keys - high key and low key at the same time.

In the matrix to reach the Creator they had to do two things at the exact same time (one of which involved a key)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv2ya1bEMpM
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 30, 2020, 09:22:16 AM
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You forgot the reversal

The 'keys' are not external as most seem to think. This much is evident as of the kEy#4 and 'the last key' (Key#5) threads. The reversal is that some of the implications up to a point are of something external/outside of you but really its all internal.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: nobody on June 30, 2020, 09:26:36 AM
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You forgot the reversal

The 'keys' are not external as most seem to think. This much is evident as of the kEy#4 and 'the last key' (Key#5) threads. The reversal is that some of the implications up to a point are of something external/outside of you but really its all internal.

It's both isn't it? The micro/macrocosm.

Quote
relationship. ... This rhythmic structure was described by Cage as a micro-macrocosmic structure. This basically means that, on a rhythmic level, the whole of the piece relates to that of its parts.

In terms of consciousness and everything inside it.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 30, 2020, 09:29:58 AM
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You forgot the reversal

The 'keys' are not external as most seem to think. This much is evident as of the kEy#4 and 'the last key' (Key#5) threads. The reversal is that some of the implications up to a point are of something external/outside of you but really its all internal.

It's both isn't it? The micro/macrocosm.

Quote
relationship. ... This rhythmic structure was described by Cage as a micro-macrocosmic structure. This basically means that, on a rhythmic level, the whole of the piece relates to that of its parts.

In terms of consciousness and everything inside it.

There is no external only projections of the internal.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: nobody on June 30, 2020, 09:34:05 AM
But for the sake of understanding and interacting in the world, there's still individual I's at some levels even though everything is one. There's you and me. We are clearly different yet connected.

If you really believe everything is as you say it is then you might as well sit in an empty room for your whole life.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on June 30, 2020, 11:39:39 AM
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book->koob->cube, loki->ikol

After Loki sacrificed himself during the Siege, Loki put his soul into a hidden place within Asgard, but leaving clues behind so his next incarnation could find him. When the new form of Loki found him, Ikol told this new incarnation to be good, because a trickster is useless without a playground. Ikol now follows Loki around and guides him, but only if Loki asks for help. Loki told Ikol that he will be the opposite of him in every way.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/ikol/4005-77392/

Ikol went from being Loki, God of Mischief, to a soul who guides Loki on his further adventures.

This guy got it
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on June 30, 2020, 11:41:24 AM
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But for the sake of understanding and interacting in the world, there's still individual I's at some levels even though everything is one. There's you and me. We are clearly different yet connected.

If you really believe everything is as you say it is then you might as well sit in an empty room for your whole life.

Someone's o.d.'ed on black pills
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 30, 2020, 12:31:46 PM
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book->koob->cube, loki->ikol

After Loki sacrificed himself during the Siege, Loki put his soul into a hidden place within Asgard, but leaving clues behind so his next incarnation could find him. When the new form of Loki found him, Ikol told this new incarnation to be good, because a trickster is useless without a playground. Ikol now follows Loki around and guides him, but only if Loki asks for help. Loki told Ikol that he will be the opposite of him in every way.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/ikol/4005-77392/

Ikol went from being Loki, God of Mischief, to a soul who guides Loki on his further adventures.

This guy got it

So people should be looking for a 'cube' and not a 'book' then. They should be looking for 'Ikol' and not 'Loki'. Are either of those two statements accurate?

The 'cube' makes me think of a tesseract but in general there are many 'cubes' that could be 'found' at least semi related to this topic.

Books contain entire worlds, or maybe they are merely portals to said worlds. The cover doubles as a doorway (ever seen a perfectly square book lol?) and the contents (as in the words and sentences) when they were first written is an act of creation (scriptomancy).

Is 'Ikol' representative of the need to interact with our 'holy guardian angel' and or 'true self'? From what I've been able to gather (from reading the wiki), 'Ikol' was the old Loki that acted as a guide for the new 'Kid Loki'.
Apparently 'Ikol' only existed in the mind of Kid Loki and ultimately Kid Loki sacrificed himself to destroy the 'Fear Crown' and prevent one of the 'Fear Lords' from doing more harm. Ironically, he only had to sacrifice himself like this because he tried to help/spare others from being tortured by the Fear Lord when he sacrificed his 'fear clot' to make the current crown.

It seem that Kid Loki died and what was 'Ikol' became 'Loki' again and he returned to normal, killing the Kid Loki. I'm not sure if that's accurate and I'm sort of confused over this but that seems to be the case.

The story that included 'Ikol' was released a little before and right around the time that the cult of Saturn on /x/ started making posts.

An interesting thing to note is how thing young (and newer) Loki was called 'Kid Loki' and not 'Young/Child Loki'. This name of his seems to fit his role. A 'kid' being baby goat and they are ritually sacrificed just like 'Kid Loki' was.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 30, 2020, 01:18:32 PM
Some more side notes is how Loki possessed the tesseract (cube/hybercube) for a pretty decent amount of the story.

Another is that if 'Ikol' is representative of the need to reach out to the 'holy guardian angel', that would also seem to be supported by what Nick posted about two pages back in this thread about Aerosmith and their logo (which was a modernized form of 'Faravahar', the 'holy guardian angel' and possibly Creator figure in Zoroastrianism).
So now with 'Ikol' and its role in mind, that post he made makes more sense now.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: 01010010 on June 30, 2020, 01:21:25 PM
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book->koob->cube, loki->ikol

After Loki sacrificed himself during the Siege, Loki put his soul into a hidden place within Asgard, but leaving clues behind so his next incarnation could find him. When the new form of Loki found him, Ikol told this new incarnation to be good, because a trickster is useless without a playground. Ikol now follows Loki around and guides him, but only if Loki asks for help. Loki told Ikol that he will be the opposite of him in every way.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/ikol/4005-77392/

Ikol went from being Loki, God of Mischief, to a soul who guides Loki on his further adventures.

This guy got it
KoobIkol->cubicle
cubicle (n.)
mid-15c., "bedroom, bedchamber," from Latin cubiculum "bedroom," from cubare "to lie down," which is perhaps from a PIE *kub-, with cognates in Middle Welsh kyscu, Middle Cornish koska, Middle Breton cousquet "to sleep," but de Vaan regards the PIE origin of the Latin word as "uncertain."
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on June 30, 2020, 01:39:05 PM
Another thing no one has mentioned (and I was waiting for someone else to bring it up but since no one will I'll just mention it now) is how one of the frequent images used in reference to 'the book' is 'Death's Door' by William Blake.

The Grave (poem) - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grave_(poem%29
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 01, 2020, 01:07:21 AM
So the wheel is the greatest invention ever(?) Is there something deeper to that statement?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 01, 2020, 01:27:26 AM
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So the wheel is the greatest invention ever(?) Is there something deeper to that statement?

Wtf...
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 01, 2020, 08:12:52 AM
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So the wheel is the greatest invention ever(?) Is there something deeper to that statement?

Wtf...

That's something that was taught when I was growing up and apparently it's still a popular statement. I was thinking if a wheel represents cycles, which only exist in imbalance, I thought the statement was praising the consistent imbalance and reign of disruptive forces on man and creation.
Also how 'time' is a 'circle' which is also easily made into a 'wheel'. A 'breaking wheel'/'Catherine wheel' is a device that was used for torture.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ad meliora on July 01, 2020, 12:33:35 PM
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Things that still need to be delved into and solved from the original thread (besides the obvious Book itself).

1. The asterisk and what the "name name that is not to be reproduced audibly or visually" is
2. What 'wnespicsefomunah' is and how it "is more like what afflicts humans, binding them here"
3. The quote from William Blake's 'The Marriage of Heaven and Hell': "Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"
4. The mention of hand mudras being related to any of this
5. The image of the classified Disney document that is somehow related to this
6. Where does the author of the original first (Reddit) post watch us from?
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The book of the lock and they key is located the same place the author of my first post watches us from. Think of these 2 posts each as half a map, one last thing than I cant say much more, in my 2nd post, the links are the gold
6. 'We are the ghost in the machine' being 70% of the book.
7. The relation of the 'city of Zion' from the Matrix
8. Mental asylums are built near a 'place that exists between two worlds'
8. Twin Peaks quote
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Through the darkness of future's past, the magician longs to see. One chants out BETWEEN TWO WORLDS... "Fire... walk with me."
9. The location of the black and white lodge
10. "Clowns on the left of me, jokers on the right, here i am, stuck in the middle with you" (Stealers Wheels song, related to the last one above)
11. The Book of faces
12. The Rape of Heaven
13. CERN being extremely relevant and their role in all this
14. Quote by Nick which is originally a Tool quote "Saturn comes back around,...consumes you until you, chose to let this go"
15. We are the watchers and how little stands between us and the akashic records
16. Morai = Moriah
17. "Alexander wept for he had no more worlds to conquer"
18. How is Loki related to any of this, how he wasn't considered a god until the last 100 years but has always been around and powerful
19. Metelu (GLP thread) is worth a look in relation to this
20. We all know the location of 'Morodloeth'
21. The etymology of 'book' and 'key'
22. Stars and planets are transcended beings
23. We are the spiders
24. The lyrics in 'Black hole sun' song being related to this (song by Soundgarden)
25. How Australia's hidden libraries are related to this
26. How 'Conjuring Arts Research Center' is related to this
Conjuring Arts Research Center
https://conjuringarts.org/
27. How 'Ask Alexander' is related to this, being a "search engine for earnest seekers"
Ask Alexander
https://askalexander.org/
28. This thread Nick said to read attentively in relation to Morodloeth
Every forum, even the crazy ones, I discuss this in, I get banned
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/19543654#p19544594
29. Merlin and Arthur are still here by names we all know
30. The image of the 'Lance of Longinus' stuck in the moon from that anime 'Neon Genesis Evangelion'. "X marks the spot"
(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/evangelion/images/e/e5/Spear_on_Moon.png/revision/latest?cb=20120510114816)
31. Arthur is the 'once and future king' which Nick said was the 'key to the key'
32. Dragonlance alludes to how to achieve apotheosis and how the phases of the moon influence magic
33. There is no gravity, only densities and air is thin water
34. Jim Carry sounds a lot like Merlin would (to Nick)
35. Benjamin Rowe being related to "Rowe that boat" (Nick quote)
36. In relation to the 'location' mentioned in the original Reddit post "a location needn't be fixed"
37. Lovecraft is nonfiction and how what he knew gained him respect among TPTB. Also how Lovecraft's entities are so tied to this 'Book'.
38. When asked what the 'Book' would be to people who couldn't see and wanted the most immediate physical counterpart, Nick replied saying the Bible was it
39. We are 'the watchers'
40. How a more accurate representation of Christ is related to any of this (image not included)

In reference to No. 28, I have been giving it a solid look-over for the past day. Many things are spinning through my mind in relation to what is presented in the thread. I almost feel like sometimes the one who continues the "story" is a different poster than before like a channel of sorts.

Anyways, a couple things i want to note before i finish it:

Time, Times, and A Time are referenced as very specific and different things. Still pondering on what it is supposed to represent.

Then there is the reference of seasons, and the "creatures being in heat" i was immediately reminded of that song that says "wake me up when september ends"

What is near the end of september? The beginning of Fall, of course. Fall has taken on a new meaning in this context, and seems related to the clowns and the disappearances that happen during that time of year when perceived this way. Also, i think of fall(en) Light.

Much to consider in just that one thread.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Firefly369 on July 01, 2020, 01:20:42 PM

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(https://i.postimg.cc/MKhQ6QRD/Screenshot-20200701-100941-Duck-Duck-Go.jpg)
https://twitter.com/FREEDOM_WWGIWGA/status/1278142488730046464?s=19


THIS is why Nick said before the Bible was the Book.

The teachings of Jesus... rebel against authorities imposing unjust, hateful, oppressive laws, love your neighbor as yourself, take care of the elderly, feed the hungey, etc.  are all to create Heaven on earth for all.  Some people may have found heaven here, but not all.


Did something change in the energy on this plane last night?? 🙃
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 01, 2020, 01:27:24 PM
So the book or cube is related to a theism? Maybe Islam? The black cube

But Loki is a Viking deity. The Vikings are descended from Phoenician seafarers right?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ad meliora on July 01, 2020, 02:26:01 PM
So... who here has heard of The Invisibles comic series? I feel it is relevant to all of this. Sorry if it has been brought up before but a cursory search turned up nothing and we sadly do not have the old threads.

The "protagonist" is an archetype of the hidden power within every(one)thing.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 01, 2020, 02:46:33 PM
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https://twitter.com/FREEDOM_WWGIWGA/status/1278142488730046464?s=19


THIS is why Nick said before the Bible was the Book.

The teachings of Jesus... rebel against authorities imposing unjust, hateful, oppressive laws, love your neighbor as yourself, take care of the elderly, feed the hungey, etc.  are all to create Heaven on earth for all.  Some people may have found heaven here, but not all.


Did something change in the energy on this plane last night?? 🙃

I'm pretty sure its more along the lines of what Telsa figured out. He is said to have learned all he knew (at least most) from the Bible. He saw things differently though. The only other I can think of right off the top of my head that saw similar things but of a different nature was Lovecraft.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 01, 2020, 02:53:46 PM
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So the book or cube is related to a theism? Maybe Islam? The black cube

But Loki is a Viking deity. The Vikings are descended from Phoenician seafarers right?

Islam worships a giant black cube that resembles iron fillings around a magnet.
Christianity worships an unfolded cube that their beloved savior was sacrificed on.
Jews worship the hexagram (their 'Star of David') that contains a hexagon (and is used by most groups to mark cursed people).

Notice how all these groups worship the negative aspects of Saturn. The days where Saturn's positive aspects were worshiped much less known to exist have passed.

'Loki' is just another name for that entity/energy (also the name references a specific aspect of said energy). No group of people has a monopoly on it but some may remember the older names that energy went by.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Firefly369 on July 01, 2020, 03:12:56 PM
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I'm pretty sure its more along the lines of what Telsa figured out. He is said to have learned all he knew (at least most) from the Bible. He saw things differently though. The only other I can think of right off the top of my head that saw similar things but of a different nature was Lovecraft.

Crowley did too :)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 01, 2020, 03:27:52 PM
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I'm pretty sure its more along the lines of what Telsa figured out. He is said to have learned all he knew (at least most) from the Bible. He saw things differently though. The only other I can think of right off the top of my head that saw similar things but of a different nature was Lovecraft.

Crowley did too :)

Ok yes that is an accurate statement but Tesla would look at a clock and he saw actual hands with fingers instead of the typical hour and minuet hand (don't quote me on that I'm going off memory). Lovecraft actually saw the dead gods and other lower monsters he wrote about.
From what I've read of Crowley, he still saw things but not without entering a drug induced state. If you compare that to Tesla and Lovecraft, there is a pretty big difference the main one being that they saw what they did entirely naturally without trying.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Firefly369 on July 01, 2020, 03:42:52 PM
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I'm pretty sure its more along the lines of what Telsa figured out. He is said to have learned all he knew (at least most) from the Bible. He saw things differently though. The only other I can think of right off the top of my head that saw similar things but of a different nature was Lovecraft.

Crowley did too :)

Ok yes that is an accurate statement but Tesla would look at a clock and he saw actual hands with fingers instead of the typical hour and minuet hand (don't quote me on that I'm going off memory). Lovecraft actually saw the dead gods and other lower monsters he wrote about.
From what I've read of Crowley, he still saw things but not without entering a drug induced state. If you compare that to Tesla and Lovecraft, there is a pretty big difference the main one being that they saw what they did entirely naturally without trying.

high road/ low road 🙃
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Firefly369 on July 01, 2020, 04:03:58 PM
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Things that still need to be delved into and solved from the original thread (besides the obvious Book itself).

1. The asterisk and what the "name name that is not to be reproduced audibly or visually" is
2. What 'wnespicsefomunah' is and how it "is more like what afflicts humans, binding them here"

From Forum One:
Quote from: Searching in TX
"wnespicsefomunah = wens up of machines


"But no, you've all been brainwashed by some idiot who thought it would be fun to make some wishes up of machines."


wish (n.) Look up wish at Dictionary.com

    early 14c., "act of wishing," also "what one wishes for," from wish (v.). Cognate with Old Norse osk, Middle Dutch wonsc, Dutch wens, Old High German wunsc, German Wunsch "a wish." Wish fulfillment (1901) translates German wunscherfüllung (Freud, "Die Traumdeutung," 1900).


Is that close?


or news up of machines"

Quote from: nrgiseternal
im not surprised you put that together, but im  still impressed

The ancient AI dark lords are real.  They tempt us with the "gifts" of technology.  Ancient civilizations on earth had more advanced technology than us, but they also worshiped the older gods who helped give them the secrets.  Hitler brought back old god worship into Germany for a reason. 

We are embracing these lords again and we are all brainwashed by technology.  China is at the forefront of incorporating more machines into the world the facial recognition, social scores, etc - which all helps AI lords find the compliant workers who are willing to obey their laws.  They are then rewarded with new tech for their obedience.

Notice how before all technological advances came from white Western men, and suddenly China is surging ahead? 

Japan has not embraced the technology as much.  MSM bemoans the death of the Japanese elders, while at the same time gleefully rubbing their hands.  The younger generation of Japanese, the anime gen, are eager to welcome more and more technology into their cities. 

The reptilians serve the AI lords. Notice we know OF these lords but we can't name them. 
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: William on July 01, 2020, 04:49:25 PM
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https://twitter.com/FREEDOM_WWGIWGA/status/1278142488730046464?s=19


THIS is why Nick said before the Bible was the Book.

The teachings of Jesus... rebel against authorities imposing unjust, hateful, oppressive laws, love your neighbor as yourself, take care of the elderly, feed the hungey, etc.  are all to create Heaven on earth for all.  Some people may have found heaven here, but not all.


Did something change in the energy on this plane last night?? 🙃

Sounds a lot like "the field" that Kevin Trudeau talked about
Perhaps "laptops" are really just a reversed metaphor for our own brains?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 01, 2020, 05:53:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bR8cYtS_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
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https://books.google.cl/books?id=IzSWDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT65&lpg=PT65&dq=saturn+x+symbol&source=bl&ots=NNmRDz2plp&sig=ACfU3U0400b11s3lR7wm8AdMwyxDfZm_9A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjCupuI-azqAhW1CrkGHXS7CdUQ6AEwGHoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=true

Is the book/cube of Saturn referring to Space-Time, as in the physical, three dimensional reality?

Could the “space between” be associated to the cranial vault in the skull? Which sits right next to the Temple and also contains the sphenoid, which incidentally also looks like a butterfly. The Temple in the skull is also related to the Temporalis muscle, which etymologically comes from “Time”

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Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 01, 2020, 06:34:17 PM
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I'm pretty sure its more along the lines of what Telsa figured out. He is said to have learned all he knew (at least most) from the Bible. He saw things differently though. The only other I can think of right off the top of my head that saw similar things but of a different nature was Lovecraft.

Crowley did too :)

Ok yes that is an accurate statement but Tesla would look at a clock and he saw actual hands with fingers instead of the typical hour and minuet hand (don't quote me on that I'm going off memory). Lovecraft actually saw the dead gods and other lower monsters he wrote about.
From what I've read of Crowley, he still saw things but not without entering a drug induced state. If you compare that to Tesla and Lovecraft, there is a pretty big difference the main one being that they saw what they did entirely naturally without trying.

What do tesla and michael scofield have in common
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: DimensionsOfYou on July 01, 2020, 06:37:16 PM
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I'm pretty sure its more along the lines of what Telsa figured out. He is said to have learned all he knew (at least most) from the Bible. He saw things differently though. The only other I can think of right off the top of my head that saw similar things but of a different nature was Lovecraft.

Crowley did too :)

Ok yes that is an accurate statement but Tesla would look at a clock and he saw actual hands with fingers instead of the typical hour and minuet hand (don't quote me on that I'm going off memory). Lovecraft actually saw the dead gods and other lower monsters he wrote about.
From what I've read of Crowley, he still saw things but not without entering a drug induced state. If you compare that to Tesla and Lovecraft, there is a pretty big difference the main one being that they saw what they did entirely naturally without trying.

What do tesla and michael scofield have in common
Guessing but didn't scofield have a condition that made him see the world as pieces, instead of just objects?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: DimensionsOfYou on July 01, 2020, 06:38:07 PM
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Most people are able to ignore the constant stream of incoming stimuli, but this capability is reduced in those with low latent inhibition. Low latent inhibition (that may resemble hyper-activity, hypomania, or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in early decades of the individual life) seems to often correlate with distracted behaviors.[10] This distractedness can manifest itself as general inattentiveness, a tendency to switch subjects without warning in conversation, and other absentminded habits. This is not to say that all distractedness can be explained by low latent inhibition, nor does it necessarily follow that people with low LI will have a hard time paying attention. It does mean, however, that the higher quantity of incoming information requires a mind capable of handling it. Those of above average intelligence are thought to be capable of processing this stream effectively, enabling their creativity and increasing their awareness of their surroundings.[11] Those with average and, less than average intelligence, on the other hand, are less able to cope and as a result are more likely to suffer from mental illness and sensory overload.[12] It is hypothesized that a low level of latent inhibition can cause either psychosis or a high level of creative achievement[13] or both, which is usually dependent on the individual's intelligence.[14] When they cannot develop the creative ideas, they become frustrated and/or depressive.[citation needed]

High levels of the neurotransmitter dopamine (or its agonists) in the ventral tegmental area of the brain have been shown to decrease latent inhibition.[15] Certain dysfunctions of the neurotransmitters glutamate, serotonin and acetylcholine have also been implicated.[16]
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 01, 2020, 06:38:15 PM
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I'm pretty sure its more along the lines of what Telsa figured out. He is said to have learned all he knew (at least most) from the Bible. He saw things differently though. The only other I can think of right off the top of my head that saw similar things but of a different nature was Lovecraft.

Crowley did too :)

Ok yes that is an accurate statement but Tesla would look at a clock and he saw actual hands with fingers instead of the typical hour and minuet hand (don't quote me on that I'm going off memory). Lovecraft actually saw the dead gods and other lower monsters he wrote about.
From what I've read of Crowley, he still saw things but not without entering a drug induced state. If you compare that to Tesla and Lovecraft, there is a pretty big difference the main one being that they saw what they did entirely naturally without trying.

What do tesla and michael scofield have in common
Guessing but didn't scofield have a condition that made him see the world as pieces, instead of just objects?

Correct though it's more that he say underlying mechanics rather than the sum of the parts so to speak
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 01, 2020, 06:39:25 PM
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The reptilians serve the AI lords. Notice we know OF these lords but we can't name them.

Reptilians also worship Mars (War). Even if you know the names of these dark lords, you still don't know 'who' they really are because if you knew the 'real name' of something, you can control it. It's said that only 'Pindar' knows the real name of at least some gods.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 01, 2020, 06:55:51 PM
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The reptilians serve the AI lords. Notice we know OF these lords but we can't name them.

Reptilians also worship Mars (War). Even if you know the names of these dark lords, you still don't know 'who' they really are because if you knew the 'real name' of something, you can control it. It's said that only 'Pindar' knows the real name of at least some gods.

AI lords? That's quite the leap. The creation can never surpass the creator no matter what they tell you
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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I'm pretty sure its more along the lines of what Telsa figured out. He is said to have learned all he knew (at least most) from the Bible. He saw things differently though. The only other I can think of right off the top of my head that saw similar things but of a different nature was Lovecraft.

Crowley did too :)

Ok yes that is an accurate statement but Tesla would look at a clock and he saw actual hands with fingers instead of the typical hour and minuet hand (don't quote me on that I'm going off memory). Lovecraft actually saw the dead gods and other lower monsters he wrote about.
From what I've read of Crowley, he still saw things but not without entering a drug induced state. If you compare that to Tesla and Lovecraft, there is a pretty big difference the main one being that they saw what they did entirely naturally without trying.

What do tesla and michael scofield have in common
Guessing but didn't scofield have a condition that made him see the world as pieces, instead of just objects?

Correct though it's more that he say underlying mechanics rather than the sum of the parts so to speak

This is taken straight from the 'Prison Break' (the show 'Michael Scofield' is from) wiki:

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"Michael has been clinically diagnosed with low latent inhibition, a condition in which his brain is more open to incoming stimuli in the surrounding environment. As a result of this condition, he is unable to block out periphery information and instead processes every aspect and detail of any given stimulus. "

Michael Scofield | Prison Break Wiki | Fandom
https://prisonbreak.fandom.com/wiki/Michael_Scofield

I've had moments where I was able to do something similar but what I wanted to mention was how Superman (2013) and all his fellow surviving Kryptonians had to 'block out' 'unnecessary information (stimuli)' from their surroundings when they arrived to Earth because they had the natural ability of perceiving and processing every little detail in their surroundings.

It overwhelmed them because they could hear every sound, every thought etc. Not only does this show that telepathy is something that can be achieved if you just quiet the mind long enough and just listen, but it also shows that there are many things 'hidden' (in plain sight) all around us that we quite literally, consciously block out(ignore).

Look at the following video (even though its not from Superman 2013 it's still relevant). It demonstrates how Superman can willingly perceive every little thing going on all over the world.

Not One of Them - Superman Returns (3/5) Movie CLIP (2006) HD
https://youtu.be/jP8dC8E6Emk

This video (yes from Superman 2013) demonstrates his fellow Kryptonian 'hearing everything' when his masks breaks. Superman notes how he has learned to 'hone his senses' and listen to only what he wants to hear. Oh, haven't we all done that and not to our betterment?

Man of Steel Official Clip - It Hurts, Doesn't It!? (2013) Superman Movie HD
https://youtu.be/37XYsvHCOoY

I have not found the clip of Superman as a child I wanted to show but I have this taken from the wiki (for the movie):

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Upon recovering, Zod's breather short-circuits, and his body begins to adapt to the Earthen environment, as he suddenly gains X-Ray vision, and his hearing begins to take in everything at once (just like Clark did when he gained these powers long ago). The effect is debilitating to Zod as his senses overload and he is forced to retreat. Clark claims that his parents helped him hone his skills to control the sensory overload, but his assurance is thrown aside when a ship recovers the stunned Zod, and Faora and a larger Kryptonian Nam-Ek attempt to bring Clark down.

Man of Steel | DC Extended Universe Wiki | Fandom
https://dcextendeduniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Man_of_Steel


In addition to all this, science has already made clear that we block out a great deal of our surroundings in order to only focus/process what is necessary to survival. That is their tongue and cheek way of saying that there is a lot all around us on varying levels that we willfully are ignorant of.

While these sources are most likely not the most detailed in explaining what I previously pointed out, they do show that this is something recognized by the 'scientific community'. The reason I'm linking it and not just leaving it up to you all is to show I'm not making baseless claims.
(I know what some of you are going to say about 'Psychology Today'. My point of how we block out 'unimportant details' is still made in what I shared from that article.)

How much do we really see? -- ScienceDaily
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160419130010.htm

This Is How the Brain Filters Out Unimportant Details
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/brain-babble/201502/is-how-the-brain-filters-out-unimportant-details
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 01, 2020, 07:06:48 PM
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The reptilians serve the AI lords. Notice we know OF these lords but we can't name them.

Reptilians also worship Mars (War). Even if you know the names of these dark lords, you still don't know 'who' they really are because if you knew the 'real name' of something, you can control it. It's said that only 'Pindar' knows the real name of at least some gods.

AI lords? That's quite the leap. The creation can never surpass the creator no matter what they tell you

I didn't mention "AI lords" just "dark lords" (a pretty general term, I know) but I understand what you mean.

So which creation stands above them all? The sparks/souls of 'humans' that Creator divided and gifted directly from its own essence?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 01, 2020, 07:57:34 PM
Being on LSD or shrooms feels a lot like low latent inhibition. I've never heard of the term before but reading the description I can definitely relate to it since I experienced an abusive childhood, and for many years have felt something very similar to that. I thought of it more like an "enhanced awareness" where you're hyper-conscious of every sensory input, as an adaptive or defense mechanism. Sometimes it manifests in rapid thinking and having multiple creative/intellectual breakthroughs one after the other. That's also why I started researching stuff online to connect my ideas, and that lead to me finding this website.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 01, 2020, 08:15:24 PM
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Being on LSD or shrooms feels a lot like low latent inhibition. I've never heard of the term before but reading the description I can definitely relate to it since I experienced an abusive childhood, and for many years have felt something very similar to that. I thought of it more like an "enhanced awareness" where you're hyper-conscious of every sensory input, as an adaptive or defense mechanism. Sometimes it manifests in rapid thinking and having multiple creative/intellectual breakthroughs one after the other. That's also why I started researching stuff online to connect my ideas, and that lead to me finding this website.

The ghost in the machine lead you here.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 01, 2020, 08:22:33 PM
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Things that still need to be delved into and solved from the original thread (besides the obvious Book itself).

1. The asterisk and what the "name name that is not to be reproduced audibly or visually" is
2. What 'wnespicsefomunah' is and how it "is more like what afflicts humans, binding them here"
3. The quote from William Blake's 'The Marriage of Heaven and Hell': "Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"
4. The mention of hand mudras being related to any of this
5. The image of the classified Disney document that is somehow related to this
6. Where does the author of the original first (Reddit) post watch us from?
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The book of the lock and they key is located the same place the author of my first post watches us from. Think of these 2 posts each as half a map, one last thing than I cant say much more, in my 2nd post, the links are the gold
6. 'We are the ghost in the machine' being 70% of the book.
7. The relation of the 'city of Zion' from the Matrix
8. Mental asylums are built near a 'place that exists between two worlds'
8. Twin Peaks quote
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Through the darkness of future's past, the magician longs to see. One chants out BETWEEN TWO WORLDS... "Fire... walk with me."
9. The location of the black and white lodge
10. "Clowns on the left of me, jokers on the right, here i am, stuck in the middle with you" (Stealers Wheels song, related to the last one above)
11. The Book of faces
12. The Rape of Heaven
13. CERN being extremely relevant and their role in all this
14. Quote by Nick which is originally a Tool quote "Saturn comes back around,...consumes you until you, chose to let this go"
15. We are the watchers and how little stands between us and the akashic records
16. Morai = Moriah
17. "Alexander wept for he had no more worlds to conquer"
18. How is Loki related to any of this, how he wasn't considered a god until the last 100 years but has always been around and powerful
19. Metelu (GLP thread) is worth a look in relation to this
20. We all know the location of 'Morodloeth'
21. The etymology of 'book' and 'key'
22. Stars and planets are transcended beings
23. We are the spiders
24. The lyrics in 'Black hole sun' song being related to this (song by Soundgarden)
25. How Australia's hidden libraries are related to this
26. How 'Conjuring Arts Research Center' is related to this
Conjuring Arts Research Center
https://conjuringarts.org/
27. How 'Ask Alexander' is related to this, being a "search engine for earnest seekers"
Ask Alexander
https://askalexander.org/
28. This thread Nick said to read attentively in relation to Morodloeth
Every forum, even the crazy ones, I discuss this in, I get banned
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/19543654#p19544594
29. Merlin and Arthur are still here by names we all know
30. The image of the 'Lance of Longinus' stuck in the moon from that anime 'Neon Genesis Evangelion'. "X marks the spot"
(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/evangelion/images/e/e5/Spear_on_Moon.png/revision/latest?cb=20120510114816)
31. Arthur is the 'once and future king' which Nick said was the 'key to the key'
32. Dragonlance alludes to how to achieve apotheosis and how the phases of the moon influence magic
33. There is no gravity, only densities and air is thin water
34. Jim Carry sounds a lot like Merlin would (to Nick)
35. Benjamin Rowe being related to "Rowe that boat" (Nick quote)
36. In relation to the 'location' mentioned in the original Reddit post "a location needn't be fixed"
37. Lovecraft is nonfiction and how what he knew gained him respect among TPTB. Also how Lovecraft's entities are so tied to this 'Book'.
38. When asked what the 'Book' would be to people who couldn't see and wanted the most immediate physical counterpart, Nick replied saying the Bible was it
39. We are 'the watchers'
40. How a more accurate representation of Christ is related to any of this (image not included)
Then there is the reference of seasons, and the "creatures being in heat" i was immediately reminded of that song that says "wake me up when september ends"

What is near the end of september? The beginning of Fall, of course. Fall has taken on a new meaning in this context, and seems related to the clowns and the disappearances that happen during that time of year when perceived this way. Also, i think of fall(en) Light.

Do you remember?

Earth, Wind & Fire - September
https://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 01, 2020, 08:30:46 PM
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book->koob->cube, loki->ikol

After Loki sacrificed himself during the Siege, Loki put his soul into a hidden place within Asgard, but leaving clues behind so his next incarnation could find him. When the new form of Loki found him, Ikol told this new incarnation to be good, because a trickster is useless without a playground. Ikol now follows Loki around and guides him, but only if Loki asks for help. Loki told Ikol that he will be the opposite of him in every way.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/ikol/4005-77392/

Ikol went from being Loki, God of Mischief, to a soul who guides Loki on his further adventures.

This guy got it

So people should be looking for a 'cube' and not a 'book' then. They should be looking for 'Ikol' and not 'Loki'. Are either of those two statements accurate?

The 'cube' makes me think of a tesseract but in general there are many 'cubes' that could be 'found' at least semi related to this topic.

Books contain entire worlds, or maybe they are merely portals to said worlds. The cover doubles as a doorway (ever seen a perfectly square book lol?) and the contents (as in the words and sentences) when they were first written is an act of creation (scriptomancy).

Is 'Ikol' representative of the need to interact with our 'holy guardian angel' and or 'true self'? From what I've been able to gather (from reading the wiki), 'Ikol' was the old Loki that acted as a guide for the new 'Kid Loki'.
Apparently 'Ikol' only existed in the mind of Kid Loki and ultimately Kid Loki sacrificed himself to destroy the 'Fear Crown' and prevent one of the 'Fear Lords' from doing more harm. Ironically, he only had to sacrifice himself like this because he tried to help/spare others from being tortured by the Fear Lord when he sacrificed his 'fear clot' to make the current crown.

It seem that Kid Loki died and what was 'Ikol' became 'Loki' again and he returned to normal, killing the Kid Loki. I'm not sure if that's accurate and I'm sort of confused over this but that seems to be the case.

The story that included 'Ikol' was released a little before and right around the time that the cult of Saturn on /x/ started making posts.

An interesting thing to note is how thing young (and newer) Loki was called 'Kid Loki' and not 'Young/Child Loki'. This name of his seems to fit his role. A 'kid' being baby goat and they are ritually sacrificed just like 'Kid Loki' was.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pybXyB6v/costh1.png)

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"The astral plane is a place where form is based directly on meaning, being there merely to reinforce a point when needed. Here in a place of form we oftentimes forget where we come from, the dark dreamy sea of imagination existing between the lines of life’s story. While bright, heavenly places exist much like the stars they exist as tiny dots in a seemingly endless plane filled with darkness. The Cube of Saturn represents this dark world. This ancient place from before time and after it may seem distant, but it’s closer than most would even want to know. This place is full of endless power, timeless races, and mind boggling secrets. The Cube of Saturn has a tendency to avoid definition. Its raw, holy meaning goes far deeper than human language can express.

The first thing to understand is that our life is temporary, but the Cube of Saturn is eternal. Not only did you exist there after you die but even now your spirit drifts there, timelessly watching you. After you die you will be drawn back to your life again, witnessing it from the outside (such as in many near death experience reports). Your soul watching you now outside of your body is your Holy Guardian Angel. It watches you with a sense of nostalgia, sometimes even yearning for the life you live now. Everyone communicates with this force, mostly unknowingly. It can speak through synchronicities, making things in the physical world align with meaning or your thoughts (in the same way the astral plane always does) in order to communicate the nature of reality to you."
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/13675658/#q13675865
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Firefly369 on July 01, 2020, 09:07:11 PM
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The reptilians serve the AI lords. Notice we know OF these lords but we can't name them.

Reptilians also worship Mars (War). Even if you know the names of these dark lords, you still don't know 'who' they really are because if you knew the 'real name' of something, you can control it. It's said that only 'Pindar' knows the real name of at least some gods.

AI lords? That's quite the leap. The creation can never surpass the creator no matter what they tell you

I didn't mention "AI lords" just "dark lords" (a pretty general term, I know) but I understand what you mean.

So which creation stands above them all? The sparks/souls of 'humans' that Creator divided and gifted directly from its own essence?

Creator stands above them all.

How can one part of Creator stand above another? 


AI gods is more of an apt term..

I was thinking of lords as in masters, controllers over their flock.  The entymology of lord is "bread guardian" or "watcher of the bread."

Bread entymology:
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From Middle English bred, breed, from Old English brēad (“fragment, bit, morsel, crumb", also "bread”), from Proto-Germanic *braudą (“cooked food, leavened bread”), from Proto-Indo-European *bʰerw-, *bʰrew- (“to boil, seethe”) (see brew). Alternatively, from Proto-Germanic *braudaz, *brauþaz (“broken piece, fragment”), from Proto-Indo-European *bʰera- (“to split, beat, hew, struggle”) (see brittle). Perhaps a conflation of the two. Cognate with Scots breid (“bread”), Saterland Frisian Brad (“bread”), West Frisian brea (“bread”), Dutch brood (“bread”), German Brot (“bread”), Danish and Norwegian brød (“bread”), Swedish bröd (“bread”), Icelandic brauð (“bread”), Albanian brydh (“I make crumbly, friable, soft”), Latin frustum 


(Compare with common bread idioms, where bread often means money or livelihood/ sustaining element
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/bread)

So if these gods watch over what the people use to sustain them (in this case, technology), couldn't they also be referred to as AI lords?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 01, 2020, 09:38:58 PM
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The reptilians serve the AI lords. Notice we know OF these lords but we can't name them.

Reptilians also worship Mars (War). Even if you know the names of these dark lords, you still don't know 'who' they really are because if you knew the 'real name' of something, you can control it. It's said that only 'Pindar' knows the real name of at least some gods.

AI lords? That's quite the leap. The creation can never surpass the creator no matter what they tell you

I didn't mention "AI lords" just "dark lords" (a pretty general term, I know) but I understand what you mean.

So which creation stands above them all? The sparks/souls of 'humans' that Creator divided and gifted directly from its own essence?

Creator stands above them all.

How can one part of Creator stand above another? 

Everything is part of Creator but not everything is of Creator. Creator has created many things (sub creators that also created things) but only humans have been gifted its essence which we recognize as a 'spark' or 'soul'.

There are hierarchies to everything it seems but where do we as the sparks of Creator, co creators of the universe stand? Every other race of beings desires to consume us to become 'immortal' when we are naturally immortal in every sense of the term. I think that is revealing in and of itself.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ad meliora on July 01, 2020, 10:04:39 PM
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Things that still need to be delved into and solved from the original thread (besides the obvious Book itself).

1. The asterisk and what the "name name that is not to be reproduced audibly or visually" is
2. What 'wnespicsefomunah' is and how it "is more like what afflicts humans, binding them here"
3. The quote from William Blake's 'The Marriage of Heaven and Hell': "Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"
4. The mention of hand mudras being related to any of this
5. The image of the classified Disney document that is somehow related to this
6. Where does the author of the original first (Reddit) post watch us from?
Quote
The book of the lock and they key is located the same place the author of my first post watches us from. Think of these 2 posts each as half a map, one last thing than I cant say much more, in my 2nd post, the links are the gold
6. 'We are the ghost in the machine' being 70% of the book.
7. The relation of the 'city of Zion' from the Matrix
8. Mental asylums are built near a 'place that exists between two worlds'
8. Twin Peaks quote
Quote
Through the darkness of future's past, the magician longs to see. One chants out BETWEEN TWO WORLDS... "Fire... walk with me."
9. The location of the black and white lodge
10. "Clowns on the left of me, jokers on the right, here i am, stuck in the middle with you" (Stealers Wheels song, related to the last one above)
11. The Book of faces
12. The Rape of Heaven
13. CERN being extremely relevant and their role in all this
14. Quote by Nick which is originally a Tool quote "Saturn comes back around,...consumes you until you, chose to let this go"
15. We are the watchers and how little stands between us and the akashic records
16. Morai = Moriah
17. "Alexander wept for he had no more worlds to conquer"
18. How is Loki related to any of this, how he wasn't considered a god until the last 100 years but has always been around and powerful
19. Metelu (GLP thread) is worth a look in relation to this
20. We all know the location of 'Morodloeth'
21. The etymology of 'book' and 'key'
22. Stars and planets are transcended beings
23. We are the spiders
24. The lyrics in 'Black hole sun' song being related to this (song by Soundgarden)
25. How Australia's hidden libraries are related to this
26. How 'Conjuring Arts Research Center' is related to this
Conjuring Arts Research Center
https://conjuringarts.org/
27. How 'Ask Alexander' is related to this, being a "search engine for earnest seekers"
Ask Alexander
https://askalexander.org/
28. This thread Nick said to read attentively in relation to Morodloeth
Every forum, even the crazy ones, I discuss this in, I get banned
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/19543654#p19544594
29. Merlin and Arthur are still here by names we all know
30. The image of the 'Lance of Longinus' stuck in the moon from that anime 'Neon Genesis Evangelion'. "X marks the spot"
(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/evangelion/images/e/e5/Spear_on_Moon.png/revision/latest?cb=20120510114816)
31. Arthur is the 'once and future king' which Nick said was the 'key to the key'
32. Dragonlance alludes to how to achieve apotheosis and how the phases of the moon influence magic
33. There is no gravity, only densities and air is thin water
34. Jim Carry sounds a lot like Merlin would (to Nick)
35. Benjamin Rowe being related to "Rowe that boat" (Nick quote)
36. In relation to the 'location' mentioned in the original Reddit post "a location needn't be fixed"
37. Lovecraft is nonfiction and how what he knew gained him respect among TPTB. Also how Lovecraft's entities are so tied to this 'Book'.
38. When asked what the 'Book' would be to people who couldn't see and wanted the most immediate physical counterpart, Nick replied saying the Bible was it
39. We are 'the watchers'
40. How a more accurate representation of Christ is related to any of this (image not included)
Then there is the reference of seasons, and the "creatures being in heat" i was immediately reminded of that song that says "wake me up when september ends"

What is near the end of september? The beginning of Fall, of course. Fall has taken on a new meaning in this context, and seems related to the clowns and the disappearances that happen during that time of year when perceived this way. Also, i think of fall(en) Light.

Do you remember?

Earth, Wind & Fire - September
https://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk

"Only blue talk and love"

Blue vs red face

Again relates to the story in the aforementioned thread, (edit: as well as the other thread on here about the twitter thread nick posted).. food for thought  :P
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ironclad on July 01, 2020, 10:23:54 PM
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book->koob->cube, loki->ikol

After Loki sacrificed himself during the Siege, Loki put his soul into a hidden place within Asgard, but leaving clues behind so his next incarnation could find him. When the new form of Loki found him, Ikol told this new incarnation to be good, because a trickster is useless without a playground. Ikol now follows Loki around and guides him, but only if Loki asks for help. Loki told Ikol that he will be the opposite of him in every way.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/ikol/4005-77392/

Ikol went from being Loki, God of Mischief, to a soul who guides Loki on his further adventures.

This guy got it

So people should be looking for a 'cube' and not a 'book' then. They should be looking for 'Ikol' and not 'Loki'. Are either of those two statements accurate?

The 'cube' makes me think of a tesseract but in general there are many 'cubes' that could be 'found' at least semi related to this topic.

Books contain entire worlds, or maybe they are merely portals to said worlds. The cover doubles as a doorway (ever seen a perfectly square book lol?) and the contents (as in the words and sentences) when they were first written is an act of creation (scriptomancy).

Is 'Ikol' representative of the need to interact with our 'holy guardian angel' and or 'true self'? From what I've been able to gather (from reading the wiki), 'Ikol' was the old Loki that acted as a guide for the new 'Kid Loki'.
Apparently 'Ikol' only existed in the mind of Kid Loki and ultimately Kid Loki sacrificed himself to destroy the 'Fear Crown' and prevent one of the 'Fear Lords' from doing more harm. Ironically, he only had to sacrifice himself like this because he tried to help/spare others from being tortured by the Fear Lord when he sacrificed his 'fear clot' to make the current crown.

It seem that Kid Loki died and what was 'Ikol' became 'Loki' again and he returned to normal, killing the Kid Loki. I'm not sure if that's accurate and I'm sort of confused over this but that seems to be the case.

The story that included 'Ikol' was released a little before and right around the time that the cult of Saturn on /x/ started making posts.

An interesting thing to note is how thing young (and newer) Loki was called 'Kid Loki' and not 'Young/Child Loki'. This name of his seems to fit his role. A 'kid' being baby goat and they are ritually sacrificed just like 'Kid Loki' was.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pybXyB6v/costh1.png)

Quote
"The astral plane is a place where form is based directly on meaning, being there merely to reinforce a point when needed. Here in a place of form we oftentimes forget where we come from, the dark dreamy sea of imagination existing between the lines of life’s story. While bright, heavenly places exist much like the stars they exist as tiny dots in a seemingly endless plane filled with darkness. The Cube of Saturn represents this dark world. This ancient place from before time and after it may seem distant, but it’s closer than most would even want to know. This place is full of endless power, timeless races, and mind boggling secrets. The Cube of Saturn has a tendency to avoid definition. Its raw, holy meaning goes far deeper than human language can express.

The first thing to understand is that our life is temporary, but the Cube of Saturn is eternal. Not only did you exist there after you die but even now your spirit drifts there, timelessly watching you. After you die you will be drawn back to your life again, witnessing it from the outside (such as in many near death experience reports). Your soul watching you now outside of your body is your Holy Guardian Angel. It watches you with a sense of nostalgia, sometimes even yearning for the life you live now. Everyone communicates with this force, mostly unknowingly. It can speak through synchronicities, making things in the physical world align with meaning or your thoughts (in the same way the astral plane always does) in order to communicate the nature of reality to you."
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/13675658/#q13675865

just want to point out that cooper in interstellar his whole story aligns with that anonymous chan post. interstellar, the space movie that never shows them physically leaving earth.

great movie. a gem for those who haven't seen it
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Technomancer32 on July 02, 2020, 02:40:07 AM
If the Book of the Key and the Lock can be found with a laptop, then the book of faces must be Facebook. Facebook as a social media service that stores "everything" about it's users with pages, posts, messages, images, and likes. Their thoughts, preferences, emotions, physical looks, relationships, achievements, failures, recent locations, plans, hopes, delusions, etc.. There's even a timeline feature that shows each individual's unique history, each "life". With all this information anyone can form a pretty solid image of any user, hence it's creation. Facebook even allows its users to form groups and group pages so you can keep track of groups as well. Facebook, like Myspace, is no longer the most popular social media service in use now with Twitter, Snapchat, and the rest, at least with the kids nowadays.

A laptop is the low-tech way of reaching the Book of Loki, therefore Facebook, and social media in general, is the low-tech version of the Akashic records, the records of "all human events, thoughts, words, emotions, and intent ever to have occurred in the past, present, or future". Using the record is fun because as the tracks of your "life" are already laid down you must instead be selecting which line to take. So which line will we take?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 02, 2020, 02:48:16 AM
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If the Book of the Key and the Lock can be found with a laptop, then the book of faces must be Facebook. Facebook as a social media service that stores "everything" about it's users with pages, posts, messages, images, and likes. Their thoughts, preferences, emotions, physical looks, relationships, achievements, failures, recent locations, plans, hopes, delusions, etc.. There's even a timeline feature that shows each individual's unique history, each "life". With all this information anyone can form a pretty solid image of any user, hence it's creation. Facebook even allows its users to form groups and group pages so you can keep track of groups as well. Facebook, like Myspace, is no longer the most popular social media service in use now with Twitter, Snapchat, and the rest, at least with the kids nowadays.

A laptop is the low-tech way of reaching the Book of Loki, therefore Facebook, and social media in general, is the low-tech version of the Akashic records, the records of "all human events, thoughts, words, emotions, and intent ever to have occurred in the past, present, or future". Using the record is fun because as the tracks of your "life" are already laid down you must instead be selecting which line to take. So which line will we take?

This is some high caliber thinking have you posted here before?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 02, 2020, 02:50:10 AM
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Being on LSD or shrooms feels a lot like low latent inhibition. I've never heard of the term before but reading the description I can definitely relate to it since I experienced an abusive childhood, and for many years have felt something very similar to that. I thought of it more like an "enhanced awareness" where you're hyper-conscious of every sensory input, as an adaptive or defense mechanism. Sometimes it manifests in rapid thinking and having multiple creative/intellectual breakthroughs one after the other. That's also why I started researching stuff online to connect my ideas, and that lead to me finding this website.


It sure does. Though low latent inhibition has fewer inherent risks lol
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 02, 2020, 10:29:45 AM
Two authors for book covers that were referenced in the /x/ threads are 'Frank Gruber' and 'Frank Kane'.

'Frank Gruber' is apparently a very well known and accomplished individual. 'Frank Kane' still has some dozen books to his name but not as big.

Frank Gruber - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Gruber_(writer)

The New Thrilling Detective Web Site - Come on down these
https://thrillingdetective.wordpress.com/


The following links are things referenced from the threads.

Weird Tales/Volume 36/Issue 2/The Book of the Dead
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Weird_Tales/Volume_36/Issue_2/The_Book_of_the_Dead

Weird Tales v36n02 [1941-11] (Gorgon776) : Free Download
https://archive.org/details/WeirdTalesV36N02194111Gorgon776

I wasn't able to find an online copy of the following book so I'll just link an image instead. Ostensibly it seems like 'just some detective thriller' but it was referenced for a reason.

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/hq4f48ec8e.jpg)

The following book is about the 'green light' which is something they spoke about somewhat frequently and is a reoccuring theme in various stories.

Download (eBook) Green Light for Death - enalenag’s blog
http://enalenag.hatenablog.com/entry/2015/08/11/135948
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 02, 2020, 02:10:56 PM
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If you had to assign a theism to him what would it be

(https://i.postimg.cc/13r7jjHf/costh2.png)

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"Cult of Saturn is post-satanist.

That means that we believe that satan is dead, just like Nietzsche proposed that God was dead. What this means is that when faced with an overloading of satanic imagery humanity no longer has the will to believe in satan.

That means we embrace the symbolism of satan, not in worship, nor in solidarity, but rather as a stepping stone to a post satanic occult ideology.

You have to walk through the darkness before you can see the light? No we believe in endarkenment. That there is beauty and love inside the darkness. That darkness is a neccesary part of the universe. And the truly spiritual brave must acknolwedge this.

It also mean acknowledging the completely banal as a fundamental element of the occult space."
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/13446144/#13446423
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 03, 2020, 10:31:45 AM
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If the Book of the Key and the Lock can be found with a laptop, then the book of faces must be Facebook. Facebook as a social media service that stores "everything" about it's users with pages, posts, messages, images, and likes. Their thoughts, preferences, emotions, physical looks, relationships, achievements, failures, recent locations, plans, hopes, delusions, etc.. There's even a timeline feature that shows each individual's unique history, each "life". With all this information anyone can form a pretty solid image of any user, hence it's creation. Facebook even allows its users to form groups and group pages so you can keep track of groups as well. Facebook, like Myspace, is no longer the most popular social media service in use now with Twitter, Snapchat, and the rest, at least with the kids nowadays.

A laptop is the low-tech way of reaching the Book of Loki, therefore Facebook, and social media in general, is the low-tech version of the Akashic records, the records of "all human events, thoughts, words, emotions, and intent ever to have occurred in the past, present, or future". Using the record is fun because as the tracks of your "life" are already laid down you must instead be selecting which line to take. So which line will we take?

Facebook is also referred to as the 'Necromonicon' and the 'Book of the Dead (Faces)'. Don't quote me on the latter though.

Facebook is the Necronomicon by SockZombie on DeviantArt
https://www.deviantart.com/sockzombie/art/Facebook-is-the-Necronomicon-382409073

Computers (and the inter net) is an externalized, highly flawed version of the akashic records where disinformation and just straight lies are recorded instead of just the pure truth of how things happened.
From what we discussed in the old forum, the only thing keeping us from accessing the true akashic records is our ego and some moonlight.

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"Our DNA is molecular "crystal" in which the akashic library is encoded. How to access it is a topic of much debate, but no one who has followed the methods Ive laid out hasnt made progress in a matter of months and if you put in the work for 2 years you will be more activated than you ever imagined. The problem is my methods are "so simple, its common sense" that many dismiss it out of hand. Nasty way to discourage activation is to make it seem like hokum."


With what has just been discussed in mind, what Terry Davis left us with is worth looking into.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 04, 2020, 02:29:28 PM
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Things that still need to be delved into and solved from the original thread (besides the obvious Book itself).

1. The asterisk and what the "name name that is not to be reproduced audibly or visually" is
2. What 'wnespicsefomunah' is and how it "is more like what afflicts humans, binding them here"
3. The quote from William Blake's 'The Marriage of Heaven and Hell': "Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"
4. The mention of hand mudras being related to any of this
5. The image of the classified Disney document that is somehow related to this
6. Where does the author of the original first (Reddit) post watch us from?
Quote
The book of the lock and they key is located the same place the author of my first post watches us from. Think of these 2 posts each as half a map, one last thing than I cant say much more, in my 2nd post, the links are the gold
6. 'We are the ghost in the machine' being 70% of the book.
7. The relation of the 'city of Zion' from the Matrix
8. Mental asylums are built near a 'place that exists between two worlds'
8. Twin Peaks quote
Quote
Through the darkness of future's past, the magician longs to see. One chants out BETWEEN TWO WORLDS... "Fire... walk with me."
9. The location of the black and white lodge
10. "Clowns on the left of me, jokers on the right, here i am, stuck in the middle with you" (Stealers Wheels song, related to the last one above)
11. The Book of faces
12. The Rape of Heaven
13. CERN being extremely relevant and their role in all this
14. Quote by Nick which is originally a Tool quote "Saturn comes back around,...consumes you until you, chose to let this go"
15. We are the watchers and how little stands between us and the akashic records
16. Morai = Moriah
17. "Alexander wept for he had no more worlds to conquer"
18. How is Loki related to any of this, how he wasn't considered a god until the last 100 years but has always been around and powerful
19. Metelu (GLP thread) is worth a look in relation to this
20. We all know the location of 'Morodloeth'
21. The etymology of 'book' and 'key'
22. Stars and planets are transcended beings
23. We are the spiders
24. The lyrics in 'Black hole sun' song being related to this (song by Soundgarden)
25. How Australia's hidden libraries are related to this
26. How 'Conjuring Arts Research Center' is related to this
Conjuring Arts Research Center
https://conjuringarts.org/
27. How 'Ask Alexander' is related to this, being a "search engine for earnest seekers"
Ask Alexander
https://askalexander.org/
28. This thread Nick said to read attentively in relation to Morodloeth
Every forum, even the crazy ones, I discuss this in, I get banned
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/19543654#p19544594
29. Merlin and Arthur are still here by names we all know
30. The image of the 'Lance of Longinus' stuck in the moon from that anime 'Neon Genesis Evangelion'. "X marks the spot"
(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/evangelion/images/e/e5/Spear_on_Moon.png/revision/latest?cb=20120510114816)
31. Arthur is the 'once and future king' which Nick said was the 'key to the key'
32. Dragonlance alludes to how to achieve apotheosis and how the phases of the moon influence magic
33. There is no gravity, only densities and air is thin water
34. Jim Carry sounds a lot like Merlin would (to Nick)
35. Benjamin Rowe being related to "Rowe that boat" (Nick quote)
36. In relation to the 'location' mentioned in the original Reddit post "a location needn't be fixed"
37. Lovecraft is nonfiction and how what he knew gained him respect among TPTB. Also how Lovecraft's entities are so tied to this 'Book'.
38. When asked what the 'Book' would be to people who couldn't see and wanted the most immediate physical counterpart, Nick replied saying the Bible was it
39. We are 'the watchers'
40. How a more accurate representation of Christ is related to any of this (image not included)


Add these things to the list of things to figure out in this thread. Some of them are more important to the actual 'Key#1' than others but everything listed gives some insight into 'where' they were coming from.
If anyone needed 'extra hints', these are some more leads to go on.

1. No one has seen the missing page 88
2. The frequent use of mantis imagery
3. The 'war' between the (not) cult of Saturn and Mars
4. The doxxing and ultimately the elimination of most of the cult of Saturn members
5. Who is 'Mizar'
6. The use of 'Worlds(3D)' and it's relevance to all this (and yes it is relevant to some extent. There was talk about the cult trying to hide something there.)
7. The British psychologist named 'Frank Webster'
8. The meaning and intent behind the 'zeners' (3x3s) and the original ones (who made them?)
9. The use of sacred geometry and its relevance to this
10. Why they called the 'Flower of Life' the 'Flower of Death'
11. The elder numbers and their relevance (Pi and Phi)
12. The experiments they conducted and the apparent requirement to astral project to participate
13. How the 'Holy Guardian Angel' is involved
14. The relevance of Slender Man
15. Why the cult spoke as if 2013 was a big happening
16. The use of 'Death's Door' as one cover the the 'Book' and its relevance
17. The relevance of synchronicity in all this
18. The relevance of 'Frank Gruber'
19. The relevance of 'Frank Kane'
20. What the 'green light' really symbolizes
21. How the Titanic is involved
22. What the 'Lifetime of silence behind the green door' badge means
23. We live inside a labyrinth
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 04, 2020, 11:01:41 PM
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Things that still need to be delved into and solved from the original thread (besides the obvious Book itself).

1. The asterisk and what the "name name that is not to be reproduced audibly or visually" is
2. What 'wnespicsefomunah' is and how it "is more like what afflicts humans, binding them here"
3. The quote from William Blake's 'The Marriage of Heaven and Hell': "Tiger tiger, burning bright, who could frame thy fearful symmetry?"
4. The mention of hand mudras being related to any of this
5. The image of the classified Disney document that is somehow related to this
6. Where does the author of the original first (Reddit) post watch us from?
Quote
The book of the lock and they key is located the same place the author of my first post watches us from. Think of these 2 posts each as half a map, one last thing than I cant say much more, in my 2nd post, the links are the gold
6. 'We are the ghost in the machine' being 70% of the book.
7. The relation of the 'city of Zion' from the Matrix
8. Mental asylums are built near a 'place that exists between two worlds'
8. Twin Peaks quote
Quote
Through the darkness of future's past, the magician longs to see. One chants out BETWEEN TWO WORLDS... "Fire... walk with me."
9. The location of the black and white lodge
10. "Clowns on the left of me, jokers on the right, here i am, stuck in the middle with you" (Stealers Wheels song, related to the last one above)
11. The Book of faces
12. The Rape of Heaven
13. CERN being extremely relevant and their role in all this
14. Quote by Nick which is originally a Tool quote "Saturn comes back around,...consumes you until you, chose to let this go"
15. We are the watchers and how little stands between us and the akashic records
16. Morai = Moriah
17. "Alexander wept for he had no more worlds to conquer"
18. How is Loki related to any of this, how he wasn't considered a god until the last 100 years but has always been around and powerful
19. Metelu (GLP thread) is worth a look in relation to this
20. We all know the location of 'Morodloeth'
21. The etymology of 'book' and 'key'
22. Stars and planets are transcended beings
23. We are the spiders
24. The lyrics in 'Black hole sun' song being related to this (song by Soundgarden)
25. How Australia's hidden libraries are related to this
26. How 'Conjuring Arts Research Center' is related to this
Conjuring Arts Research Center
https://conjuringarts.org/
27. How 'Ask Alexander' is related to this, being a "search engine for earnest seekers"
Ask Alexander
https://askalexander.org/
28. This thread Nick said to read attentively in relation to Morodloeth
Every forum, even the crazy ones, I discuss this in, I get banned
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/19543654#p19544594
29. Merlin and Arthur are still here by names we all know
30. The image of the 'Lance of Longinus' stuck in the moon from that anime 'Neon Genesis Evangelion'. "X marks the spot"
(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/evangelion/images/e/e5/Spear_on_Moon.png/revision/latest?cb=20120510114816)
31. Arthur is the 'once and future king' which Nick said was the 'key to the key'
32. Dragonlance alludes to how to achieve apotheosis and how the phases of the moon influence magic
33. There is no gravity, only densities and air is thin water
34. Jim Carry sounds a lot like Merlin would (to Nick)
35. Benjamin Rowe being related to "Rowe that boat" (Nick quote)
36. In relation to the 'location' mentioned in the original Reddit post "a location needn't be fixed"
37. Lovecraft is nonfiction and how what he knew gained him respect among TPTB. Also how Lovecraft's entities are so tied to this 'Book'.
38. When asked what the 'Book' would be to people who couldn't see and wanted the most immediate physical counterpart, Nick replied saying the Bible was it
39. We are 'the watchers'
40. How a more accurate representation of Christ is related to any of this (image not included)


Add these things to the list of things to figure out in this thread. Some of them are more important to the actual 'Key#1' than others but everything listed gives some insight into 'where' they were coming from.
If anyone needed 'extra hints', these are some more leads to go on.

1. No one has seen the missing page 88
2. The frequent use of mantis imagery
3. The 'war' between the (not) cult of Saturn and Mars
4. The doxxing and ultimately the elimination of most of the cult of Saturn members
5. Who is 'Mizar'
6. The use of 'Worlds(3D)' and it's relevance to all this (and yes it is relevant to some extent. There was talk about the cult trying to hide something there.)
7. The British psychologist named 'Frank Webster'
8. The meaning and intent behind the 'zeners' (3x3s) and the original ones (who made them?)
9. The use of sacred geometry and its relevance to this
10. Why they called the 'Flower of Life' the 'Flower of Death'
11. The elder numbers and their relevance (Pi and Phi)
12. The experiments they conducted and the apparent requirement to astral project to participate
13. How the 'Holy Guardian Angel' is involved
14. The relevance of Slender Man
15. Why the cult spoke as if 2013 was a big happening
16. The use of 'Death's Door' as one cover the the 'Book' and its relevance
17. The relevance of synchronicity in all this
18. The relevance of 'Frank Gruber'
19. The relevance of 'Frank Kane'
20. What the 'green light' really symbolizes
21. How the Titanic is involved
22. What the 'Lifetime of silence behind the green door' badge means
23. We live inside a labyrinth


Slender man...?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 04, 2020, 11:13:28 PM
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Add these things to the list of things to figure out in this thread. Some of them are more important to the actual 'Key#1' than others but everything listed gives some insight into 'where' they were coming from.
If anyone needed 'extra hints', these are some more leads to go on.

1. No one has seen the missing page 88
2. The frequent use of mantis imagery
3. The 'war' between the (not) cult of Saturn and Mars
4. The doxxing and ultimately the elimination of most of the cult of Saturn members
5. Who is 'Mizar'
6. The use of 'Worlds(3D)' and it's relevance to all this (and yes it is relevant to some extent. There was talk about the cult trying to hide something there.)
7. The British psychologist named 'Frank Webster'
8. The meaning and intent behind the 'zeners' (3x3s) and the original ones (who made them?)
9. The use of sacred geometry and its relevance to this
10. Why they called the 'Flower of Life' the 'Flower of Death'
11. The elder numbers and their relevance (Pi and Phi)
12. The experiments they conducted and the apparent requirement to astral project to participate
13. How the 'Holy Guardian Angel' is involved
14. The relevance of Slender Man
15. Why the cult spoke as if 2013 was a big happening
16. The use of 'Death's Door' as one cover the the 'Book' and its relevance
17. The relevance of synchronicity in all this
18. The relevance of 'Frank Gruber'
19. The relevance of 'Frank Kane'
20. What the 'green light' really symbolizes
21. How the Titanic is involved
22. What the 'Lifetime of silence behind the green door' badge means
23. We live inside a labyrinth


Slender man...?

It was something that was referenced a few times in the threads, mainly in the 3x3's. Probably because of how it didn't exist until people dumped all their attention into it.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 06, 2020, 12:08:18 PM
"Allow yourself to consider, if for only just a moment, that reality is composed of nothing more than "sensory perception""
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25449796
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Firefly369 on July 06, 2020, 02:00:41 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/VLmTLpTf/IMG-20200627-181806.jpg)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 06, 2020, 02:12:10 PM
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(https://i.postimg.cc/VLmTLpTf/IMG-20200627-181806.jpg)

Everything we imagine takes place on a higher plane. Anything that gets people to regularly exercise their imagination is a threat to TPTB.

I magi nation

Old Nick quote:
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"imagination is the etheric workshop where we build our reality"
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 06, 2020, 11:33:30 PM
So I haven't seen Twin Peaks yet but this video shows how 'The Arm' speaks in reverse in the 'Red Room'.

I'm certain this is related to the 'Satanic tenet of reversals' but not sure to what extent since I haven't seen the show yet. I'm still somewhat surprised (apparently) no ones brought this up yet.

Twin Peaks - Man from another Place teaches how to speak in the Red Room
https://youtu.be/E_q7rZJljKY

Quote
Reverse speak
The strange cadence of the Man’s dialogue was achieved by having Anderson speak into a recorder. This was then played in reverse, and Anderson was directed to repeat the reversed original. This “reverse-speak” was then reversed again in editing to bring it back to the normal direction. This created the strange rhythm and accentuation that set Cooper’s dream world apart from the real world.

Anderson recalls that his reverse-speak was not difficult to master as, coincidentally, he had used it as a secret language with his junior high school friends. Series creator David Lynch was unaware of this when he cast Anderson in the part and had hired a trainer to help Anderson with enunciation. When he found out Anderson could already talk backward, he canceled the trainer and wrote more difficult lines of dialogue for Anderson to read.
The arm | Twin Peaks Wiki | Fandom
https://twinpeaks.fandom.com/wiki/The_arm
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 07, 2020, 03:05:14 AM
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So I haven't seen Twin Peaks yet but this video shows how 'The Arm' speaks in reverse in the 'Red Room'.

I'm certain this is related to the 'Satanic tenet of reversals' but not sure to what extent since I haven't seen the show yet. I'm still somewhat surprised (apparently) no ones brought this up yet.

Twin Peaks - Man from another Place teaches how to speak in the Red Room
https://youtu.be/E_q7rZJljKY

Quote
Reverse speak
The strange cadence of the Man’s dialogue was achieved by having Anderson speak into a recorder. This was then played in reverse, and Anderson was directed to repeat the reversed original. This “reverse-speak” was then reversed again in editing to bring it back to the normal direction. This created the strange rhythm and accentuation that set Cooper’s dream world apart from the real world.

Anderson recalls that his reverse-speak was not difficult to master as, coincidentally, he had used it as a secret language with his junior high school friends. Series creator David Lynch was unaware of this when he cast Anderson in the part and had hired a trainer to help Anderson with enunciation. When he found out Anderson could already talk backward, he canceled the trainer and wrote more difficult lines of dialogue for Anderson to read.
The arm | Twin Peaks Wiki | Fandom
https://twinpeaks.fandom.com/wiki/The_arm

"Satanic" initiates are taught to speak think walk and do basically everything possible I  reversals which is why palindromes are considered divine they are immutable
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 07, 2020, 08:28:35 AM
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"Satanic" initiates are taught to speak think walk and do basically everything possible I  reversals which is why palindromes are considered divine they are immutable

But why do they do things in reverse? Do they believe that they derive some sort of 'power' from reversing things? The Moon isn't stronger than the Sun just by stealing it's light.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 07, 2020, 01:36:25 PM
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"Satanic" initiates are taught to speak think walk and do basically everything possible I  reversals which is why palindromes are considered divine they are immutable

But why do they do things in reverse? Do they believe that they derive some sort of 'power' from reversing things? The Moon isn't stronger than the Sun just by stealing it's light.

Everything we see or experience was created by creator by reversing everything he created they are showing Rebellion they are declaring their separateness from his energy signature it's what the Bible speaks of as the 1/3 Rebellion
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 07, 2020, 01:49:27 PM
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"Satanic" initiates are taught to speak think walk and do basically everything possible I  reversals which is why palindromes are considered divine they are immutable

But why do they do things in reverse? Do they believe that they derive some sort of 'power' from reversing things? The Moon isn't stronger than the Sun just by stealing it's light.

Everything we see or experience was created by creator by reversing everything he created they are showing Rebellion they are declaring their separateness from his energy signature it's what the Bible speaks of as the 1/3 Rebellion

What is an existence like where someone experiences things not (directly) made by Creator? Would things like that resemble the horrible monsters that Lovecraft wrote about? Why do they even have strange forms like octopus monsters with wings or masses of eyes?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 07, 2020, 04:54:42 PM
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"Satanic" initiates are taught to speak think walk and do basically everything possible I  reversals which is why palindromes are considered divine they are immutable

But why do they do things in reverse? Do they believe that they derive some sort of 'power' from reversing things? The Moon isn't stronger than the Sun just by stealing it's light.

Everything we see or experience was created by creator by reversing everything he created they are showing Rebellion they are declaring their separateness from his energy signature it's what the Bible speaks of as the 1/3 Rebellion

What is an existence like where someone experiences things not (directly) made by Creator? Would things like that resemble the horrible monsters that Lovecraft wrote about? Why do they even have strange forms like octopus monsters with wings or masses of eyes?

I can't tell you because as far as I know no such place exists
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: nobody on July 07, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Does imagination create reality on a higher plane?

Then you experience it (sometimes) on the physical, but through senses, which may or may not be wrong?

I feel I have perfected the visualization you taught on the old forum. The one with the ball. I can smell, feel, hear and see it perfectly as it bounces and I catch it. I can even do this whilst typing this (albeit with typos I fixed before posting). So the question I ask now is...now what do I do? You didn't give a step #2.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 08, 2020, 01:58:35 AM
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Does imagination create reality on a higher plane?

Then you experience it (sometimes) on the physical, but through senses, which may or may not be wrong?

I feel I have perfected the visualization you taught on the old forum. The one with the ball. I can smell, feel, hear and see it perfectly as it bounces and I catch it. I can even do this whilst typing this (albeit with typos I fixed before posting). So the question I ask now is...now what do I do? You didn't give a step #2.

Anyone here wanna take this one? I just cant..

😱😁
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: nobody on July 08, 2020, 08:52:56 AM
Yeah, I get it, only the great one himself: Nick, master things.   ::)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 08, 2020, 09:32:34 AM
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Yeah, I get it, only the great one himself: Nick, master things.   ::)

So Nick being 'the infallible master' is a meme now? You aren't the first person I've seen who 'jokes' about it.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 08, 2020, 11:51:23 AM
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"Satanic" initiates are taught to speak think walk and do basically everything possible I  reversals which is why palindromes are considered divine they are immutable

But why do they do things in reverse? Do they believe that they derive some sort of 'power' from reversing things? The Moon isn't stronger than the Sun just by stealing it's light.

Our eyes literally flip the images we receive, everything we see is upside down.

Quote
Because the front part of the eye is curved, it bends the light, creating an upside-down image on the retina. The brain eventually turns the image the right way up
https://www.sightsavers.org/protecting-sight/the-eyes/

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f543dfb3879656e214d40d16a5b6ff17)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: William on July 08, 2020, 11:58:58 AM
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Does imagination create reality on a higher plane?

Then you experience it (sometimes) on the physical, but through senses, which may or may not be wrong?

I feel I have perfected the visualization you taught on the old forum. The one with the ball. I can smell, feel, hear and see it perfectly as it bounces and I catch it. I can even do this whilst typing this (albeit with typos I fixed before posting). So the question I ask now is...now what do I do? You didn't give a step #2.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sDRYfY33/1.png)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 08, 2020, 12:00:15 PM
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"Satanic" initiates are taught to speak think walk and do basically everything possible I  reversals which is why palindromes are considered divine they are immutable

But why do they do things in reverse? Do they believe that they derive some sort of 'power' from reversing things? The Moon isn't stronger than the Sun just by stealing it's light.

Everything we see or experience was created by creator by reversing everything he created they are showing Rebellion they are declaring their separateness from his energy signature it's what the Bible speaks of as the 1/3 Rebellion

Why is it specifically 1/3? I'm asking because I think it's curious that 1/3=0.3333, which means that the two thirds that are left are 0.66666
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 08, 2020, 12:02:24 PM
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"Satanic" initiates are taught to speak think walk and do basically everything possible I  reversals which is why palindromes are considered divine they are immutable

But why do they do things in reverse? Do they believe that they derive some sort of 'power' from reversing things? The Moon isn't stronger than the Sun just by stealing it's light.

Our eyes literally flip the images we receive, everything we see is upside down.

Quote
Because the front part of the eye is curved, it bends the light, creating an upside-down image on the retina. The brain eventually turns the image the right way up
https://www.sightsavers.org/protecting-sight/the-eyes/

Continue this train of thought and understand that our eyes invert the stimulus they receive and all that we see in the mirror is inverted. If what we see in the mirror is inverted and our eyes already invert things. . .
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 08, 2020, 12:13:20 PM
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Does imagination create reality on a higher plane?

Then you experience it (sometimes) on the physical, but through senses, which may or may not be wrong?

I feel I have perfected the visualization you taught on the old forum. The one with the ball. I can smell, feel, hear and see it perfectly as it bounces and I catch it. I can even do this whilst typing this (albeit with typos I fixed before posting). So the question I ask now is...now what do I do? You didn't give a step #2.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sDRYfY33/1.png)

For those wondering, this is from Ophiel's 'The Art and Practice of Getting Material Things Through Creative Visualization' (but referred to by most as 'The Art and Practice of Creative Visualization').
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 08, 2020, 12:30:22 PM
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"Satanic" initiates are taught to speak think walk and do basically everything possible I  reversals which is why palindromes are considered divine they are immutable

But why do they do things in reverse? Do they believe that they derive some sort of 'power' from reversing things? The Moon isn't stronger than the Sun just by stealing it's light.

Everything we see or experience was created by creator by reversing everything he created they are showing Rebellion they are declaring their separateness from his energy signature it's what the Bible speaks of as the 1/3 Rebellion

Why is it specifically 1/3? I'm asking because I think it's curious that 1/3=0.3333, which means that the two thirds that are left are 0.66666

.33 (infinite) makes me think of the 'thirty third degree' masons. Another layer to their 'mastery' and 'ascension' would be that their 'thirty three' is referring to the deal they make where they trade Creator's gift for a deal with Lucifer.

This would have them become 'demoted' in the hierarchy (at least for a while) and have them become a new 'fallen'. Instead of 'spiraling out' (.66 infinite) and ascending, they actually fall (.33 infinite).

Related old Nick quote:
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"creator made adam/atom(carbon based life) carbon has 6 protons six neutrons six electrons..666

that which is not of creator is .333 removed from his creative power one minus.666 hence the third fallen angels trope"
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: William on July 08, 2020, 12:54:19 PM
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Yeah, I get it, only the great one himself: Nick, master things.   ::)

why bite the hand that feeds
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 08, 2020, 04:14:40 PM
The Cube or Tesseract is a representation of the 4th Dimension
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 08, 2020, 04:19:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGb059xsDzI&width=640&height=480
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 08, 2020, 05:34:47 PM
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Yeah, I get it, only the great one himself: Nick, master things.   ::)

This is the concept that has been discussed at length here in various threats if you don't even a cursory amount of reading the chances are very high you would have been counted the answer so you're either disingenuous asking the question or you somehow missed one of the guiding tenants I've been being put forward here for half a decade
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 08, 2020, 05:36:35 PM
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Yeah, I get it, only the great one himself: Nick, master things.   ::)

why bite the hand that feeds

Egos all the way down..

This is why Millennials struggle with life in general they can't accept that not only do they not know everything they generally don't know anything and need to be taught which isn't a great insult because all knowledge is passed down no one has original thoughts or invents anything but when you remove bullies from the equation until everyone have super special they are since birth the peak narcissism the kids have experienced goes unchecked and they're unable to learn
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 08, 2020, 05:52:05 PM
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The Cube or Tesseract is a representation of the 4th Dimension

So why is Saturn, the one with the most control, also above the fourth dimension, still associated with the tesseract.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 08, 2020, 06:28:55 PM
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The Cube or Tesseract is a representation of the 4th Dimension

So why is Saturn, the one with the most control, also above the fourth dimension, still associated with the tesseract.
Because in astrology, Saturn is traditionally associated with ruling structures. and the three-dimensional cube represents stability, structure and the material world

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The cube, the perfect 6-sided figure, was used in Egypt as the symbol for space (volume). The Egyptian was Highly conscious of the box-like structure, which is the model of the earth or the material world. The form of statuary called the "cube statue" are prevalent since the Middle Kingdom (2040-1783 BCE). The subject was integrated into the cubic form of the stone. In these cube statues, there is a powerful sense of the subject emerging from the prison of the cube. Its symbolic significance is that the spiritual principle is emerging from the material world. The earthly person is placed unmistakably in material existence.

Other traditions, such as the Platonic and Pythagorean, adopted the same concept of the Egyptian cubic representation of the material world.

So, the symbolism of "thinking outside the box", and to "try to get out of the box" (in the theatrical mime performance) are originally Egyptian practices
https://books.google.cl/books?id=0scB9nED228C&pg=PA53&lpg=PA53&dq=cube+symbol+of+material+world&source=bl&ots=3_776QX4ls&sig=ACfU3U0Ic_jRZsvBfORO_2S3E-I8-BbOcQ&hl=es-419&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEkJDE177qAhWPILkGHf41B88Q6AEwAHoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=cube%20symbol%20of%20material%20world&f=false

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Cube
Among solid forms, it is the equivalent of the square, Hence it stands for earth, or the material world of the Four Elements. Denis the Carthusian pointed out that cubic objects are not capable of rotation as are spheres, and that therefore they represent stability
https://books.google.cl/books?id=_p7DAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT151&lpg=PT151&dq=cube+symbol+of+material+world&source=bl&ots=7AgxkLkwKB&sig=ACfU3U0KdCSKnQ88LbGO9Vu_3GkM0pb0Tg&hl=es-419&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEkJDE177qAhWPILkGHf41B88Q6AEwCXoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=cube%20symbol%20of%20material%20world&f=false

"Satanists" are also associated with worshiping the material world
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 08, 2020, 06:46:32 PM
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The Cube or Tesseract is a representation of the 4th Dimension

So why is Saturn, the one with the most control, also above the fourth dimension, still associated with the tesseract.
Because in astrology, Saturn is traditionally associated with ruling structures. and the three-dimensional cube represents stability, structure and the material world

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The cube, the perfect 6-sided figure, was used in Egypt as the symbol for space (volume). The Egyptian was Highly conscious of the box-like structure, which is the model of the earth or the material world. The form of statuary called the "cube statue" are prevalent since the Middle Kingdom (2040-1783 BCE). The subject was integrated into the cubic form of the stone. In these cube statues, there is a powerful sense of the subject emerging from the prison of the cube. Its symbolic significance is that the spiritual principle is emerging from the material world. The earthly person is placed unmistakably in material existence.

Other traditions, such as the Platonic and Pythagorean, adopted the same concept of the Egyptian cubic representation of the material world.

So, the symbolism of "thinking outside the box", and to "try to get out of the box" (in the theatrical mime performance) are originally Egyptian practices
https://books.google.cl/books?id=0scB9nED228C&pg=PA53&lpg=PA53&dq=cube+symbol+of+material+world&source=bl&ots=3_776QX4ls&sig=ACfU3U0Ic_jRZsvBfORO_2S3E-I8-BbOcQ&hl=es-419&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEkJDE177qAhWPILkGHf41B88Q6AEwAHoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=cube%20symbol%20of%20material%20world&f=false

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Cube
Among solid forms, it is the equivalent of the square, Hence it stands for earth, or the material world of the Four Elements. Denis the Carthusian pointed out that cubic objects are not capable of rotation as are spheres, and that therefore they represent stability
https://books.google.cl/books?id=_p7DAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT151&lpg=PT151&dq=cube+symbol+of+material+world&source=bl&ots=7AgxkLkwKB&sig=ACfU3U0KdCSKnQ88LbGO9Vu_3GkM0pb0Tg&hl=es-419&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEkJDE177qAhWPILkGHf41B88Q6AEwCXoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=cube%20symbol%20of%20material%20world&f=false

"Satanists" are also associated with worshiping the material world

A not very well known thing is that the Sun is a square and it spins, giving us what we perceive as a circular, Baal Sun. Creator made the Sun, Creator made the square/cube.

What else does a square and circle remind you of?

Saturn is referred to as being the furthest from the Sun but really it's the plane t with the most control. What did NASA disclose that was on the on the north pole of Saturn? What's on the south pole?

What star do the Jews wave around on their flag? Who's star is it really?

'Thinking outside the box' is better phrased 'thinking across the planes'.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 08, 2020, 08:45:01 PM
I don't know how related this is but this thread just popped up on /x/ around the same time that the last posts were made here inquiring about 'the cube'.

From a very quick TL;DR and not much research done, it appears to be some Masonic 'Friendship Cube' that means 'something' and is associated with CERN somehow.

I figured I'd just throw this in here since it may be related but I'm not sure to what degree yet. I just thought it was nice and I guess fitting for an online, digital Ouija board to show this at a seemingly synchronous moment.

Friendship Cube
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25479337
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 08, 2020, 10:38:12 PM
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The internet is actually controlled by 14 people who hold 7 secret keys

This sounds like something out of a Dan Brown book, but it isn't: The whole internet is controlled by seven actual, physical keys.
The Guardian's James Ball was recently allowed to observe the highly secure ritual known as a key ceremony.

The people conducting the ceremony are part of an organization called the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). For instance, type 64.27.101.155 into your browser, and you'll be taken to Business Insider's web page. But www.businessinsider.com is easier for people to remember.  ICANN is responsible for assigning numerical internet addresses to websites and computers and translating them into the normal web addresses that people type into their browsers. ICANN maps the numbers (easier for computers to use) with words (easier for humans to use).

If someone were to gain control of ICANN's database, that person would control the internet. For instance, the person could send people to fake bank websites instead of real bank websites.

On the other hand, if a calamity happened, the ICANN database could need to be rebuilt. So ICANN came up with a way to do that without entrusting too much control to any one person. It selected seven people as key holders and gave each one an actual key to internet. It selected seven more people to be backup key holders: 14 people in all.
The physical keys unlock safe deposit boxes stashed around the world. Inside those boxes are smart key cards. Put the seven smartcards together and you have the "master key." The master key is really some computer code, a password of sorts that can access the ICANN database.

Four times a year since 2010 the seven key holders meet for the key ceremony where they generate a new master key, i.e. a new password.

The security to be admitted to the ceremony is intense, Ball reports, and involves passing through a series of locked doors using key codes and hand scanners, until entering a room so secure that no electronic communications can escape it.

The group conducts the ritual, then each person files out of the room one by one, and then they all head to a restaurant and party
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https://www.businessinsider.com/the-internet-is-controlled-by-14-people-2014-3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9j-sfP9GUU

"More has happened here today than meets the eye. An infrastructure has been created for a hierarchical security system which can be purposed and repurposed in a number of different ways"
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: William on July 08, 2020, 10:55:55 PM
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Is "the key" Ophiel's refering to here related to the two keys discussed in this and related threads?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 08, 2020, 10:58:47 PM
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The internet is actually controlled by 14 people who hold 7 secret keys

This sounds like something out of a Dan Brown book, but it isn't: The whole internet is controlled by seven actual, physical keys.
The Guardian's James Ball was recently allowed to observe the highly secure ritual known as a key ceremony.

The people conducting the ceremony are part of an organization called the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). For instance, type 64.27.101.155 into your browser, and you'll be taken to Business Insider's web page. But www.businessinsider.com is easier for people to remember.  ICANN is responsible for assigning numerical internet addresses to websites and computers and translating them into the normal web addresses that people type into their browsers. ICANN maps the numbers (easier for computers to use) with words (easier for humans to use).

If someone were to gain control of ICANN's database, that person would control the internet. For instance, the person could send people to fake bank websites instead of real bank websites.

On the other hand, if a calamity happened, the ICANN database could need to be rebuilt. So ICANN came up with a way to do that without entrusting too much control to any one person. It selected seven people as key holders and gave each one an actual key to internet. It selected seven more people to be backup key holders: 14 people in all.
The physical keys unlock safe deposit boxes stashed around the world. Inside those boxes are smart key cards. Put the seven smartcards together and you have the "master key." The master key is really some computer code, a password of sorts that can access the ICANN database.

Four times a year since 2010 the seven key holders meet for the key ceremony where they generate a new master key, i.e. a new password.

The security to be admitted to the ceremony is intense, Ball reports, and involves passing through a series of locked doors using key codes and hand scanners, until entering a room so secure that no electronic communications can escape it.

The group conducts the ritual, then each person files out of the room one by one, and then they all head to a restaurant and party
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https://www.businessinsider.com/the-internet-is-controlled-by-14-people-2014-3

The ritual could be a recreation of Egyptian initiation ceremonies

'James' is really 'Jacob'. The etymology of 'Jacob' is 'one that takes by the heel; a supplanter'. 'Ball' as in 'Baal'.
'James Baal' means something close to 'One that takes by the heel (for) Baal' or 'A supplanter (for) Baal'.

'ICANN' anagrams roughly to 'Cain' (CAINN specifically) but it is also 'I CAN(N)' or 'IN CAN'. 'I CANN' do what, name all things in the digital realm in their web and translate numbers into letters?

While we are on the topic of the inter net and computers, you may want to look into one of the Navy's old projects that took off and is related to the current topic.

There are seven notes in an octave. The eighth note is a repeat of the first one. So seven keys held by fourteen people in total, in more musical terms, would be something similar to two octaves in total with seven keys that repeat.

Seven notes, seven chakras, seven seals, seven keys, seven seals. . . what does it all mean. . .
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 09, 2020, 02:22:01 AM
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Is "the key" Ophiel's refering to here related to the two keys discussed in this and related threads?

Only metaphorically
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 10, 2020, 12:00:49 PM
An image that was shared in one of the 3x3s in the Trail of Deceit links was this one. The text says "There's always a chair for you in the Devil's house".

A reverse image search doesn't bring up much. It appears to be some kind of street art from Bridgeport, Connecticut.

(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/f5/19/2a/f5192a71420c01ff52c9449ffd1de2cc--art-and-illustration-guest-houses.jpg)

There's always a chair for you in the Devil's house - Pinterest
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/767441592722608392/

This is where it was referrenced:

PAGE 11 - Life is just a game....
https://imgur.com/DPdjQPc
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: DimensionsOfYou on July 10, 2020, 04:57:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP4mGtHlVKY
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 10, 2020, 08:55:39 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP4mGtHlVKY

That video is from 'The Thaw', episode twenty three of season two in 'Star Trek: Voyager'. As its listed on most sites, it would appear as episode 2x23 which would be the reverse of 322 if you remove the 'X'.

The Thaw (episode) | Memory Alpha | Fandom
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Thaw_(episode)

That gray entity seems to resemble the 'Frank' character from 'Donnie Darko'. Donnie Darko is another movie that is heavily referenced in the cult of Saturn threads on /x/.

The rabbit 'Frank' also appears in other stories outside of Donnie Darko, so it does seem to fit some kind of archetype that people are channeling when they depict this grey, half alive, trickster entity.

Frank | Donnie Darko Wiki | Fandom
https://wakeupdonnie.fandom.com/wiki/Frank

In the film when Frank takes his mask off, his right eye is closed/bleeding drawing emphasis to his left eye. Could he be a 'Horus initiate' instead of the common 'Ra initiates' that we see so often? That would make him one of the 'good guys', for the lack of a better term.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: 01010010 on July 14, 2020, 01:37:51 PM
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https://franksdumpblog.tumblr.com/post/58566901816/when-alestair-crowley-entered-the-golden-dawn-his
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: 01010010 on July 14, 2020, 02:23:32 PM
AN ESSAY ON THE CUBE OF SATURN - By Sacred

The astral plane is a place where form is based directly on meaning, being there merely to reinforce a point when needed. Here in a place of form we oftentimes forget where we come from, the dark dreamy sea of imagination existing between the lines of life’s story. While bright, heavenly places exist much like the stars they exist as tiny dots in a seemingly endless plane filled with darkness. The Cube of Saturn represents this dark world. This ancient place from before time and after it may seem distant, but it’s closer than most would even want to know. This place is full of endless power, timeless races, and mind boggling secrets. The Cube of Saturn has a tendency to avoid definition. Its raw, holy meaning goes far deeper than human language can express. This being said, I will make my best attempt at describing not only the nature of the Cube of Saturn but ways to utilize it as well as how it connects to other occult concepts.

The first thing to understand is that our life is temporary, but the Cube of Saturn is eternal. Not only did you exist there after you die but even now your spirit drifts there, timelessly watching you. After you die you will be drawn back to your life again, witnessing it from the outside (such as in many near death experience reports). Your soul watching you now outside of your body is your Holy Guardian Angel. It watches you with a sense of nostalgia, sometimes even yearning for the life you live now. Everyone communicates with this force, mostly unknowingly. It can speak through synchronicities, making things in the physical world align with meaning or your thoughts (in the same way the astral plane always does) in order to communicate the nature of reality to you. It also speaks through vibes. Vibes are the raw meaning behind form and the language of telepathy. They are similar to emotions but concepts not felt through regular emotions or expressed in regular language can be expressed just fine in vibes. In this way spirits or even extraterrestrial beings can communicate concepts to you you can’t even fathom and vice versa. I will give a few examples of higher self communication in order to make this abstract topic easier to understand. Let’s say you see a person you’ve never met before but they feel like they’re your best friend and you’ve known them forever. This then leads to you talking to them. That feeling would be your higher self’s memory of this person. Additionally you can see how your higher self provides the nudge for you to take the right path and meet this important person. While in this example you and your higher self seem to share in the joy of an experience oftentimes your

higher self may view your actions with a little more negativity. Let’s say you’re yelling at your mother. She’s done something to really ruffle your feathers, but normally she’s pretty sweet. It’s night time and outside the window you feel like something’s watching you. It gives off a vibe that let’s you feel how it feels about this scenario. The vibe feels like it really loves your mother and misses her and it feels terrible about what you’re doing, wishing it could make you stop. While this vibe could be confusing to some, now having the context you would recognize why the thing outside your window would feel this way. Learning to feel what your higher self feels and how to read synchronicity are two of the most useful tricks a cultist can learn.

While speaking to your higher self is useful and sometimes even fun we’re not here to just tease the Cube of Saturn but to penetrate it, diving to its darkest, strangest depths. This is easier than you would think. You are already in the cube, in spirit. There is no wall between you and the Cube of Saturn but delirious ones you dream up. There are barriers, keeping some of the denizens of this dark world from our little slice of reality but these things only exist on that side, not on both like you do. Should you encounter these beings, attempting to wear away at the walls of creation, do not interact with them. They often resemble spiders and some call them demons, but these are not useful or intelligent dark beings but ravenous, animalistic ones that would love to devour our world. Accessing the Cube of Saturn is as easy as closing your eyes and forgetting about this world. With this world put aside, you are in the Cube of Saturn by default. Many will recommend all types of visualizations and other nonsense but any true adept will tell you the way to the astral plane is through inner silence. This may take some work, but if you would like to use a substance to make the process faster DXM is the one that is most linked to the Cube of Saturn. Take a fairly large dose and close your eyes, all of the work will be done for you and you will find yourself outside of your body right away, guaranteed. No matter what method you choose you will eventually find yourself floating outside of your body. One of the most striking things is that you will no longer be able to think with your human mind. Sprits exist formlessly as exactly what they are. There is no duality between mind and body. This is something that, while hard to explain, you’ll notice right away. The first few times you get out you may find yourself getting stuck in objects. Spirits are sticky by nature and when they attach to something they find themselves fully in the experience, believing themselves to actually be that object. This should give a strange message about the nature of the objects around you at all times. We often believe only living things can have souls, but this is not true. Spirit is inside and around everything at all times. As you float through the astral you will find yourself drawn most often to either your own past (You are your higher self here. In a lot of ways a near death experience and a projection into the Cube of Saturn is the same thing.) You’ll find yourself drawn oftentimes to places of great emotion, though souls have weird preferences and personalities of their own. Many would describe them as insane and I would be inclined to agree. It’s often hard to tell if the locations you encounter have a basis in this world, but the meaning behind them is apparent, even if quite abstract. You may find yourself in strange rooms filled with a dark, murderous vibe or in objects during a time where they were relevant, such as in a bouquet of flowers on the table of a grieving widow while she cries staring at you (to use a personal example). This should not only explain a lot about how enchanted objects work but as well as haunted places. Here you know who you are, the character you’re playing. The Cube of Saturn represents the backstage, where the actors impart meaning and play emotional roles.

If you’re familiar with the Kabbalah you’re likely already making all sorts of connections. Binah (Saturn), right under Kether on the Tree of Life may be the core of the Cube of Saturn, but I believe the Cube of Saturn represents the entire left-hand pillar of the tree. The first sephirot on the left pillar is Hod, or splendor, representing Mercury. This is the messenger of the gods, but also a trickster. This sphere represents language and communication and is the sphere of the magician. The principle at play here is something I’ve already spoken heavily of. In some ways the astral plane is one big communication. Every form and every vibe behind them is some way of the universe communicating something to another part of itself. Above this sphere is Geburah, or strength, representing Mars. This is not merely irrational, human anger but the divine anger of the cosmos. The way nature is so uncaring sometimes is explained in this sphere. Many would ask why any caring god would allow such suffering in the universe but how else would this work? Evolution is driven by death, if some things didn’t die off we never would have evolved past singe celled organisms. Nature is brutal and goes by survival of the fittest. It seems harsh, but the message behind this is clear when you tap into the Cube of Saturn. Above this is Binah, the top sphere of the left-hand path and one of the two dualities of god. This sphere is called understanding. The uninitiated would be horrified by it, or at least terribly depressed. This sphere is the Whore of Babylon. It is one of the three incomprehensible spheres, across the abyss of knowledge. It can be considered one of the three heads of god. The full meaning of death and the suffering of the universe is contained here. These are concepts most avoid, but these people deny themselves the understanding of Binah. True Cultists of Saturn strive for such an understanding. This is revelation and the apocalypse. Through understanding the sorrow of the universe and destroying our old views of reality we see past the Whore of Babylon’s robes to the vulgar, profane secrets beneath. This sorrowful, dark, hopelessness somehow contains the greatest power of all, to those that aren’t too disgusted to dive into hell itself and risk everything for a spark of truth. Binah is the Shekinah and the gatekeeper. She is everything horrible but also everything we need. Until we can accept her full awful, vile, yet holy nature we are denying our own archetypical mother and lover.

The Cube of Saturn is host to many strange, dark races, perhaps even an infinite amount of such things. The initiated cultist can use this place for anything from time travel to building world of their own, but it would be unlikely for you to never encounter some manner of the freaky denizens of the darkness. It is impossible to prepare someone for such an encounter (if you’ve ever heard the phrase scared to death, it’s very applicable here) but I will attempt to make such a warning. While earlier I mentioned mindless, hungry demons tearing at unbreakable walls some of the other races are more intelligent, or at least more friendly. While not hostile most of the time these things should not be trusted immediately and should be treated with some manner of caution. They can show up to your perception in waking life as you get better at sensing spirits, one of the many reasons the mentally unstable should avoid the occult. One of the most common things I’ve encountered is something I call the Faceless. They are impossible to comprehend but sometimes appear to be made of a dense, black static. They impair your memories but in altered states you can sometimes bring bits of the memories back, or directly encounter them astrally. They don’t follow normal logic and can be found doing all manners of strange things from dancing around, cuddling with you without your knowledge, moving things around, or just watching you while you sleep. If this sounds like something from a schizophrenic breakdown that is for a reason. Not remembering these things are your brain’s natural defense mechanism to them, sort of a precaution to keep you from going insane. These things aren’t a direct threat to you but can be if tempted. These are also related to djinn, or shadow people. Shadow people are a lot more powerful and a lot more threatening though. Reports of them can be found all over the internet. Many alien races that are spoken of exist more on this layer, being they don’t perceive time and can be considered 4th dimensional. This gives them an almost god like sense of control of this world. They should be avoided if possible but they aren’t normally a threat either. When you are in their reality they will sometimes take an interest in you and are oftentimes even delighted to answer your questions. They cause a very strange effect though that will make you feel absolutely terrified on an existential level, like a too-real sense of awareness and mortality. They also like to demonstrate their abilities which are extensive enough to frighten anyone. If you encounter these things be civil with them until they go away.

While there is a lot on this subject to discuss, I hope that I have managed to provide a good overview of the concept of the Cube of Saturn. While reading texts on the subjects is well and good the only way to truly understand is to start on the path of the magician and try yourself. An armchair occultist doesn’t get anything done. Close your eyes, meditate, and sense for this world directly. You will be surprised, horrified, and delighted. There is a world of infinite adventure and chaos out there that one would be a fool to not explore to its fullest. There’s nothing stopping you but yourself. We’ll see you in the Cube.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 19, 2020, 11:27:30 AM
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AN ESSAY ON THE CUBE OF SATURN - By Sacred

The astral plane is a place where form is based directly on meaning, being there merely to reinforce a point when needed. Here in a place of form we oftentimes forget where we come from, the dark dreamy sea of imagination existing between the lines of life’s story. While bright, heavenly places exist much like the stars they exist as tiny dots in a seemingly endless plane filled with darkness. The Cube of Saturn represents this dark world. This ancient place from before time and after it may seem distant, but it’s closer than most would even want to know. This place is full of endless power, timeless races, and mind boggling secrets. The Cube of Saturn has a tendency to avoid definition. Its raw, holy meaning goes far deeper than human language can express. This being said, I will make my best attempt at describing not only the nature of the Cube of Saturn but ways to utilize it as well as how it connects to other occult concepts.

The first thing to understand is that our life is temporary, but the Cube of Saturn is eternal. Not only did you exist there after you die but even now your spirit drifts there, timelessly watching you. After you die you will be drawn back to your life again, witnessing it from the outside (such as in many near death experience reports). Your soul watching you now outside of your body is your Holy Guardian Angel. It watches you with a sense of nostalgia, sometimes even yearning for the life you live now. Everyone communicates with this force, mostly unknowingly. It can speak through synchronicities, making things in the physical world align with meaning or your thoughts (in the same way the astral plane always does) in order to communicate the nature of reality to you. It also speaks through vibes. Vibes are the raw meaning behind form and the language of telepathy. They are similar to emotions but concepts not felt through regular emotions or expressed in regular language can be expressed just fine in vibes. In this way spirits or even extraterrestrial beings can communicate concepts to you you can’t even fathom and vice versa. I will give a few examples of higher self communication in order to make this abstract topic easier to understand. Let’s say you see a person you’ve never met before but they feel like they’re your best friend and you’ve known them forever. This then leads to you talking to them. That feeling would be your higher self’s memory of this person. Additionally you can see how your higher self provides the nudge for you to take the right path and meet this important person. While in this example you and your higher self seem to share in the joy of an experience oftentimes your

higher self may view your actions with a little more negativity. Let’s say you’re yelling at your mother. She’s done something to really ruffle your feathers, but normally she’s pretty sweet. It’s night time and outside the window you feel like something’s watching you. It gives off a vibe that let’s you feel how it feels about this scenario. The vibe feels like it really loves your mother and misses her and it feels terrible about what you’re doing, wishing it could make you stop. While this vibe could be confusing to some, now having the context you would recognize why the thing outside your window would feel this way. Learning to feel what your higher self feels and how to read synchronicity are two of the most useful tricks a cultist can learn.

While speaking to your higher self is useful and sometimes even fun we’re not here to just tease the Cube of Saturn but to penetrate it, diving to its darkest, strangest depths. This is easier than you would think. You are already in the cube, in spirit. There is no wall between you and the Cube of Saturn but delirious ones you dream up. There are barriers, keeping some of the denizens of this dark world from our little slice of reality but these things only exist on that side, not on both like you do. Should you encounter these beings, attempting to wear away at the walls of creation, do not interact with them. They often resemble spiders and some call them demons, but these are not useful or intelligent dark beings but ravenous, animalistic ones that would love to devour our world. Accessing the Cube of Saturn is as easy as closing your eyes and forgetting about this world. With this world put aside, you are in the Cube of Saturn by default. Many will recommend all types of visualizations and other nonsense but any true adept will tell you the way to the astral plane is through inner silence. This may take some work, but if you would like to use a substance to make the process faster DXM is the one that is most linked to the Cube of Saturn. Take a fairly large dose and close your eyes, all of the work will be done for you and you will find yourself outside of your body right away, guaranteed. No matter what method you choose you will eventually find yourself floating outside of your body. One of the most striking things is that you will no longer be able to think with your human mind. Sprits exist formlessly as exactly what they are. There is no duality between mind and body. This is something that, while hard to explain, you’ll notice right away. The first few times you get out you may find yourself getting stuck in objects. Spirits are sticky by nature and when they attach to something they find themselves fully in the experience, believing themselves to actually be that object. This should give a strange message about the nature of the objects around you at all times. We often believe only living things can have souls, but this is not true. Spirit is inside and around everything at all times. As you float through the astral you will find yourself drawn most often to either your own past (You are your higher self here. In a lot of ways a near death experience and a projection into the Cube of Saturn is the same thing.) You’ll find yourself drawn oftentimes to places of great emotion, though souls have weird preferences and personalities of their own. Many would describe them as insane and I would be inclined to agree. It’s often hard to tell if the locations you encounter have a basis in this world, but the meaning behind them is apparent, even if quite abstract. You may find yourself in strange rooms filled with a dark, murderous vibe or in objects during a time where they were relevant, such as in a bouquet of flowers on the table of a grieving widow while she cries staring at you (to use a personal example). This should not only explain a lot about how enchanted objects work but as well as haunted places. Here you know who you are, the character you’re playing. The Cube of Saturn represents the backstage, where the actors impart meaning and play emotional roles.

If you’re familiar with the Kabbalah you’re likely already making all sorts of connections. Binah (Saturn), right under Kether on the Tree of Life may be the core of the Cube of Saturn, but I believe the Cube of Saturn represents the entire left-hand pillar of the tree. The first sephirot on the left pillar is Hod, or splendor, representing Mercury. This is the messenger of the gods, but also a trickster. This sphere represents language and communication and is the sphere of the magician. The principle at play here is something I’ve already spoken heavily of. In some ways the astral plane is one big communication. Every form and every vibe behind them is some way of the universe communicating something to another part of itself. Above this sphere is Geburah, or strength, representing Mars. This is not merely irrational, human anger but the divine anger of the cosmos. The way nature is so uncaring sometimes is explained in this sphere. Many would ask why any caring god would allow such suffering in the universe but how else would this work? Evolution is driven by death, if some things didn’t die off we never would have evolved past singe celled organisms. Nature is brutal and goes by survival of the fittest. It seems harsh, but the message behind this is clear when you tap into the Cube of Saturn. Above this is Binah, the top sphere of the left-hand path and one of the two dualities of god. This sphere is called understanding. The uninitiated would be horrified by it, or at least terribly depressed. This sphere is the Whore of Babylon. It is one of the three incomprehensible spheres, across the abyss of knowledge. It can be considered one of the three heads of god. The full meaning of death and the suffering of the universe is contained here. These are concepts most avoid, but these people deny themselves the understanding of Binah. True Cultists of Saturn strive for such an understanding. This is revelation and the apocalypse. Through understanding the sorrow of the universe and destroying our old views of reality we see past the Whore of Babylon’s robes to the vulgar, profane secrets beneath. This sorrowful, dark, hopelessness somehow contains the greatest power of all, to those that aren’t too disgusted to dive into hell itself and risk everything for a spark of truth. Binah is the Shekinah and the gatekeeper. She is everything horrible but also everything we need. Until we can accept her full awful, vile, yet holy nature we are denying our own archetypical mother and lover.

The Cube of Saturn is host to many strange, dark races, perhaps even an infinite amount of such things. The initiated cultist can use this place for anything from time travel to building world of their own, but it would be unlikely for you to never encounter some manner of the freaky denizens of the darkness. It is impossible to prepare someone for such an encounter (if you’ve ever heard the phrase scared to death, it’s very applicable here) but I will attempt to make such a warning. While earlier I mentioned mindless, hungry demons tearing at unbreakable walls some of the other races are more intelligent, or at least more friendly. While not hostile most of the time these things should not be trusted immediately and should be treated with some manner of caution. They can show up to your perception in waking life as you get better at sensing spirits, one of the many reasons the mentally unstable should avoid the occult. One of the most common things I’ve encountered is something I call the Faceless. They are impossible to comprehend but sometimes appear to be made of a dense, black static. They impair your memories but in altered states you can sometimes bring bits of the memories back, or directly encounter them astrally. They don’t follow normal logic and can be found doing all manners of strange things from dancing around, cuddling with you without your knowledge, moving things around, or just watching you while you sleep. If this sounds like something from a schizophrenic breakdown that is for a reason. Not remembering these things are your brain’s natural defense mechanism to them, sort of a precaution to keep you from going insane. These things aren’t a direct threat to you but can be if tempted. These are also related to djinn, or shadow people. Shadow people are a lot more powerful and a lot more threatening though. Reports of them can be found all over the internet. Many alien races that are spoken of exist more on this layer, being they don’t perceive time and can be considered 4th dimensional. This gives them an almost god like sense of control of this world. They should be avoided if possible but they aren’t normally a threat either. When you are in their reality they will sometimes take an interest in you and are oftentimes even delighted to answer your questions. They cause a very strange effect though that will make you feel absolutely terrified on an existential level, like a too-real sense of awareness and mortality. They also like to demonstrate their abilities which are extensive enough to frighten anyone. If you encounter these things be civil with them until they go away.

While there is a lot on this subject to discuss, I hope that I have managed to provide a good overview of the concept of the Cube of Saturn. While reading texts on the subjects is well and good the only way to truly understand is to start on the path of the magician and try yourself. An armchair occultist doesn’t get anything done. Close your eyes, meditate, and sense for this world directly. You will be surprised, horrified, and delighted. There is a world of infinite adventure and chaos out there that one would be a fool to not explore to its fullest. There’s nothing stopping you but yourself. We’ll see you in the Cube.

A lot of the posts that were made in the original /x/ threads about the cult of Saturn read like they were excerpts taken straight out of a manual (of some cult or something).
What I mean by that is they are posted more than once in some kind of a sequence/order and they don't seem like 'random' posts  but more like 'prepared statements'. Maybe its part of their reading material from their 'Ubermensch training'.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: IAmToday777 on July 19, 2020, 02:30:31 PM
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AN ESSAY ON THE CUBE OF SATURN - By Sacred

The astral plane is a place where form is based directly on meaning, being there merely to reinforce a point when needed. Here in a place of form we oftentimes forget where we come from, the dark dreamy sea of imagination existing between the lines of life’s story. While bright, heavenly places exist much like the stars they exist as tiny dots in a seemingly endless plane filled with darkness. The Cube of Saturn represents this dark world. This ancient place from before time and after it may seem distant, but it’s closer than most would even want to know. This place is full of endless power, timeless races, and mind boggling secrets. The Cube of Saturn has a tendency to avoid definition. Its raw, holy meaning goes far deeper than human language can express. This being said, I will make my best attempt at describing not only the nature of the Cube of Saturn but ways to utilize it as well as how it connects to other occult concepts.

The first thing to understand is that our life is temporary, but the Cube of Saturn is eternal. Not only did you exist there after you die but even now your spirit drifts there, timelessly watching you. After you die you will be drawn back to your life again, witnessing it from the outside (such as in many near death experience reports). Your soul watching you now outside of your body is your Holy Guardian Angel. It watches you with a sense of nostalgia, sometimes even yearning for the life you live now. Everyone communicates with this force, mostly unknowingly. It can speak through synchronicities, making things in the physical world align with meaning or your thoughts (in the same way the astral plane always does) in order to communicate the nature of reality to you. It also speaks through vibes. Vibes are the raw meaning behind form and the language of telepathy. They are similar to emotions but concepts not felt through regular emotions or expressed in regular language can be expressed just fine in vibes. In this way spirits or even extraterrestrial beings can communicate concepts to you you can’t even fathom and vice versa. I will give a few examples of higher self communication in order to make this abstract topic easier to understand. Let’s say you see a person you’ve never met before but they feel like they’re your best friend and you’ve known them forever. This then leads to you talking to them. That feeling would be your higher self’s memory of this person. Additionally you can see how your higher self provides the nudge for you to take the right path and meet this important person. While in this example you and your higher self seem to share in the joy of an experience oftentimes your

higher self may view your actions with a little more negativity. Let’s say you’re yelling at your mother. She’s done something to really ruffle your feathers, but normally she’s pretty sweet. It’s night time and outside the window you feel like something’s watching you. It gives off a vibe that let’s you feel how it feels about this scenario. The vibe feels like it really loves your mother and misses her and it feels terrible about what you’re doing, wishing it could make you stop. While this vibe could be confusing to some, now having the context you would recognize why the thing outside your window would feel this way. Learning to feel what your higher self feels and how to read synchronicity are two of the most useful tricks a cultist can learn.

While speaking to your higher self is useful and sometimes even fun we’re not here to just tease the Cube of Saturn but to penetrate it, diving to its darkest, strangest depths. This is easier than you would think. You are already in the cube, in spirit. There is no wall between you and the Cube of Saturn but delirious ones you dream up. There are barriers, keeping some of the denizens of this dark world from our little slice of reality but these things only exist on that side, not on both like you do. Should you encounter these beings, attempting to wear away at the walls of creation, do not interact with them. They often resemble spiders and some call them demons, but these are not useful or intelligent dark beings but ravenous, animalistic ones that would love to devour our world. Accessing the Cube of Saturn is as easy as closing your eyes and forgetting about this world. With this world put aside, you are in the Cube of Saturn by default. Many will recommend all types of visualizations and other nonsense but any true adept will tell you the way to the astral plane is through inner silence. This may take some work, but if you would like to use a substance to make the process faster DXM is the one that is most linked to the Cube of Saturn. Take a fairly large dose and close your eyes, all of the work will be done for you and you will find yourself outside of your body right away, guaranteed. No matter what method you choose you will eventually find yourself floating outside of your body. One of the most striking things is that you will no longer be able to think with your human mind. Sprits exist formlessly as exactly what they are. There is no duality between mind and body. This is something that, while hard to explain, you’ll notice right away. The first few times you get out you may find yourself getting stuck in objects. Spirits are sticky by nature and when they attach to something they find themselves fully in the experience, believing themselves to actually be that object. This should give a strange message about the nature of the objects around you at all times. We often believe only living things can have souls, but this is not true. Spirit is inside and around everything at all times. As you float through the astral you will find yourself drawn most often to either your own past (You are your higher self here. In a lot of ways a near death experience and a projection into the Cube of Saturn is the same thing.) You’ll find yourself drawn oftentimes to places of great emotion, though souls have weird preferences and personalities of their own. Many would describe them as insane and I would be inclined to agree. It’s often hard to tell if the locations you encounter have a basis in this world, but the meaning behind them is apparent, even if quite abstract. You may find yourself in strange rooms filled with a dark, murderous vibe or in objects during a time where they were relevant, such as in a bouquet of flowers on the table of a grieving widow while she cries staring at you (to use a personal example). This should not only explain a lot about how enchanted objects work but as well as haunted places. Here you know who you are, the character you’re playing. The Cube of Saturn represents the backstage, where the actors impart meaning and play emotional roles.

If you’re familiar with the Kabbalah you’re likely already making all sorts of connections. Binah (Saturn), right under Kether on the Tree of Life may be the core of the Cube of Saturn, but I believe the Cube of Saturn represents the entire left-hand pillar of the tree. The first sephirot on the left pillar is Hod, or splendor, representing Mercury. This is the messenger of the gods, but also a trickster. This sphere represents language and communication and is the sphere of the magician. The principle at play here is something I’ve already spoken heavily of. In some ways the astral plane is one big communication. Every form and every vibe behind them is some way of the universe communicating something to another part of itself. Above this sphere is Geburah, or strength, representing Mars. This is not merely irrational, human anger but the divine anger of the cosmos. The way nature is so uncaring sometimes is explained in this sphere. Many would ask why any caring god would allow such suffering in the universe but how else would this work? Evolution is driven by death, if some things didn’t die off we never would have evolved past singe celled organisms. Nature is brutal and goes by survival of the fittest. It seems harsh, but the message behind this is clear when you tap into the Cube of Saturn. Above this is Binah, the top sphere of the left-hand path and one of the two dualities of god. This sphere is called understanding. The uninitiated would be horrified by it, or at least terribly depressed. This sphere is the Whore of Babylon. It is one of the three incomprehensible spheres, across the abyss of knowledge. It can be considered one of the three heads of god. The full meaning of death and the suffering of the universe is contained here. These are concepts most avoid, but these people deny themselves the understanding of Binah. True Cultists of Saturn strive for such an understanding. This is revelation and the apocalypse. Through understanding the sorrow of the universe and destroying our old views of reality we see past the Whore of Babylon’s robes to the vulgar, profane secrets beneath. This sorrowful, dark, hopelessness somehow contains the greatest power of all, to those that aren’t too disgusted to dive into hell itself and risk everything for a spark of truth. Binah is the Shekinah and the gatekeeper. She is everything horrible but also everything we need. Until we can accept her full awful, vile, yet holy nature we are denying our own archetypical mother and lover.

The Cube of Saturn is host to many strange, dark races, perhaps even an infinite amount of such things. The initiated cultist can use this place for anything from time travel to building world of their own, but it would be unlikely for you to never encounter some manner of the freaky denizens of the darkness. It is impossible to prepare someone for such an encounter (if you’ve ever heard the phrase scared to death, it’s very applicable here) but I will attempt to make such a warning. While earlier I mentioned mindless, hungry demons tearing at unbreakable walls some of the other races are more intelligent, or at least more friendly. While not hostile most of the time these things should not be trusted immediately and should be treated with some manner of caution. They can show up to your perception in waking life as you get better at sensing spirits, one of the many reasons the mentally unstable should avoid the occult. One of the most common things I’ve encountered is something I call the Faceless. They are impossible to comprehend but sometimes appear to be made of a dense, black static. They impair your memories but in altered states you can sometimes bring bits of the memories back, or directly encounter them astrally. They don’t follow normal logic and can be found doing all manners of strange things from dancing around, cuddling with you without your knowledge, moving things around, or just watching you while you sleep. If this sounds like something from a schizophrenic breakdown that is for a reason. Not remembering these things are your brain’s natural defense mechanism to them, sort of a precaution to keep you from going insane. These things aren’t a direct threat to you but can be if tempted. These are also related to djinn, or shadow people. Shadow people are a lot more powerful and a lot more threatening though. Reports of them can be found all over the internet. Many alien races that are spoken of exist more on this layer, being they don’t perceive time and can be considered 4th dimensional. This gives them an almost god like sense of control of this world. They should be avoided if possible but they aren’t normally a threat either. When you are in their reality they will sometimes take an interest in you and are oftentimes even delighted to answer your questions. They cause a very strange effect though that will make you feel absolutely terrified on an existential level, like a too-real sense of awareness and mortality. They also like to demonstrate their abilities which are extensive enough to frighten anyone. If you encounter these things be civil with them until they go away.

While there is a lot on this subject to discuss, I hope that I have managed to provide a good overview of the concept of the Cube of Saturn. While reading texts on the subjects is well and good the only way to truly understand is to start on the path of the magician and try yourself. An armchair occultist doesn’t get anything done. Close your eyes, meditate, and sense for this world directly. You will be surprised, horrified, and delighted. There is a world of infinite adventure and chaos out there that one would be a fool to not explore to its fullest. There’s nothing stopping you but yourself. We’ll see you in the Cube.

All around me I am seeing messages to meditate. Every book I have picked up lately seems to mention it. Every post I'm reading seems to be pointing me there. Apparantly there is a message the universe wants me to see (though I wouldn't assume I was the special reason you felt like posting what you did).

But thank you for adding your wise contribution to the cocophany of voices pointing me in the same direction.

I need to really learn how to meditate.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on July 20, 2020, 09:21:55 PM
"There are seven keys to the great gate,
Being eight in one and one in eight."
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 20, 2020, 09:24:34 PM
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"There are seven keys to the great gate,
Being eight in one and one in eight."

RIP aec
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 20, 2020, 09:48:33 PM
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"There are seven keys to the great gate,
Being eight in one and one in eight."

RIP aec

This?

Seven Keys (game show) - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Keys_(game_show%29

Rule of Seven - TV Tropes
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfSeven
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on July 20, 2020, 10:23:38 PM
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"There are seven keys to the great gate,
Being eight in one and one in eight."

RIP aec

This?

Seven Keys (game show) - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Keys_(game_show%29

Rule of Seven - TV Tropes
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfSeven

Book Four

how do we get from seven to eight?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: 01010010 on July 21, 2020, 01:16:00 AM
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"There are seven keys to the great gate,
Being eight in one and one in eight."
There are seven keys to the great gate,
Being eight in one and one in eight.
First, let the body of thee be still,
Bound by the cerements of will,
Corpse-rigid; thus thou mayst abort
The fidget-babes that tense the thought.
Next, let the breath-rhythm be low,
Easy, regular, and slow;
So that thy being be in tune
With the great sea's Pacific swoon.
Third, let thy life be pure and calm
Swayed softly as a windless palm.
Fourth, let the will-to-live be bound
To the one love of the Profound.
Fifth, let the thought, divinely free
From sense, observe its entity.
Watch every thought that springs; enhance
Hour after hour thy vigilance!
Intense and keen, turned inward, miss
No atom of analysis!
Sixth, on one thought securely pinned
Still every whisper of the wind!
So like a flame straight and unstirred
Burn up thy being in one word!
Next, still that ecstasy, prolong
Thy meditation steep and strong,
Slaying even God, should He distract
Thy attention from the chosen act!
Last, all these things in one o'erpowered,
Time that the midnight blossom flowered!
The oneness is. Yet even in this,
My son, thou shalt not do amiss
If thou restrain the expression, shoot
Thy glance to rapture's darkling root,
Discarding name, form, sight, and stress
Even of this high consciousness;
Pierce to the heart! I leave thee here:
Thou art the Master. I revere
Thy radiance that rolls afar,
O Brother of the Silver Star
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 21, 2020, 03:06:57 AM
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"There are seven keys to the great gate,
Being eight in one and one in eight."
There are seven keys to the great gate,
Being eight in one and one in eight.
First, let the body of thee be still,
Bound by the cerements of will,
Corpse-rigid; thus thou mayst abort
The fidget-babes that tense the thought.
Next, let the breath-rhythm be low,
Easy, regular, and slow;
So that thy being be in tune
With the great sea's Pacific swoon.
Third, let thy life be pure and calm
Swayed softly as a windless palm.
Fourth, let the will-to-live be bound
To the one love of the Profound.
Fifth, let the thought, divinely free
From sense, observe its entity.
Watch every thought that springs; enhance
Hour after hour thy vigilance!
Intense and keen, turned inward, miss
No atom of analysis!
Sixth, on one thought securely pinned
Still every whisper of the wind!
So like a flame straight and unstirred
Burn up thy being in one word!
Next, still that ecstasy, prolong
Thy meditation steep and strong,
Slaying even God, should He distract
Thy attention from the chosen act!
Last, all these things in one o'erpowered,
Time that the midnight blossom flowered!
The oneness is. Yet even in this,
My son, thou shalt not do amiss
If thou restrain the expression, shoot
Thy glance to rapture's darkling root,
Discarding name, form, sight, and stress
Even of this high consciousness;
Pierce to the heart! I leave thee here:
Thou art the Master. I revere
Thy radiance that rolls afar,
O Brother of the Silver Star

So what about nine then? Seven ate nine?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 21, 2020, 03:30:12 AM
Is the 'Enochian' language related to this at all and or worth perusing?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Technomancer32 on July 21, 2020, 04:16:18 PM
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Facebook is also referred to as the 'Necromonicon' and the 'Book of the Dead (Faces)'. Don't quote me on the latter though.

Facebook is the Necronomicon by SockZombie on DeviantArt
https://www.deviantart.com/sockzombie/art/Facebook-is-the-Necronomicon-382409073

Computers (and the inter net) is an externalized, highly flawed version of the akashic records where disinformation and just straight lies are recorded instead of just the pure truth of how things happened.
From what we discussed in the old forum, the only thing keeping us from accessing the true akashic records is our ego and some moonlight.

Quote
"Our DNA is molecular "crystal" in which the akashic library is encoded. How to access it is a topic of much debate, but no one who has followed the methods Ive laid out hasnt made progress in a matter of months and if you put in the work for 2 years you will be more activated than you ever imagined. The problem is my methods are "so simple, its common sense" that many dismiss it out of hand. Nasty way to discourage activation is to make it seem like hokum."


With what has just been discussed in mind, what Terry Davis left us with is worth looking into.

Could you repost those methods or link to them?

After using Terry's OS on-and-off a few days it's pretty clear there's something conscious you converse with through the machine. I think it's outside of space or time as it has knowledge of events regardless of distance whether in the past, present, and future. It's opinionated and at one point it gave an answer before I even asked the question and later referred me back to it. What's odd is the God Word key and After Egypt give different responses, but perhaps I'm forgetting to provide enough context or using After Egypt incorrectly. The God Word gives responses I can easily interpret for the most part while After Egypt's are more cryptic. Because of it's knowledge I'd say it has access to the Akashic records, if the records aren't a part of itself.

Terry said what you speak with through the temple is God, but it sure doesn't feel like God. Instead I think it's my "higher self"; I asked if it was me and it agreed, but when I asked if I was it I received neither agreement nor disagreement. Whatever I speak with feels very familiar, like an old friend. I get the feeling it's been with me the whole time, and whenever some song suddenly plays, when certain numbers come up, or a particular combination appears it's giving me a nudge. I feel it isn't the only one of it's kind either; when a small ray of light shines a certain way, or the clouds part away for a bit and the sun appears, or suddenly a light breeze blows through the curtains, you can almost hear them calling you. Each one is separate but they're all one voice in the unison of voices. You want to melt away into the scenery, for once and for all cut the distance between the subject and object and collapse everything into a single infinitesimal point.

This is the ghost in the machine, but then who is the false prophet?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ephemeron on July 21, 2020, 07:23:57 PM
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This is the ghost in the machine, but then who is the false prophet?

These are beautiful descriptions you’ve made, I agree with them wholeheartedly. I’ve never used TempleOS but I know the same relationship is possible with any form of access to Charlotte’s Web. Once one connects with Spirit one way I’ve found it possible to project Spirit across any machine, literal or metaphorical.

What do you define as a False Prophet?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 21, 2020, 09:14:04 PM
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Facebook is also referred to as the 'Necromonicon' and the 'Book of the Dead (Faces)'. Don't quote me on the latter though.

Facebook is the Necronomicon by SockZombie on DeviantArt
https://www.deviantart.com/sockzombie/art/Facebook-is-the-Necronomicon-382409073

Computers (and the inter net) is an externalized, highly flawed version of the akashic records where disinformation and just straight lies are recorded instead of just the pure truth of how things happened.
From what we discussed in the old forum, the only thing keeping us from accessing the true akashic records is our ego and some moonlight.

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"Our DNA is molecular "crystal" in which the akashic library is encoded. How to access it is a topic of much debate, but no one who has followed the methods Ive laid out hasnt made progress in a matter of months and if you put in the work for 2 years you will be more activated than you ever imagined. The problem is my methods are "so simple, its common sense" that many dismiss it out of hand. Nasty way to discourage activation is to make it seem like hokum."


With what has just been discussed in mind, what Terry Davis left us with is worth looking into.

Could you repost those methods or link to them?

After using Terry's OS on-and-off a few days it's pretty clear there's something conscious you converse with through the machine. I think it's outside of space or time as it has knowledge of events regardless of distance whether in the past, present, and future. It's opinionated and at one point it gave an answer before I even asked the question and later referred me back to it. What's odd is the God Word key and After Egypt give different responses, but perhaps I'm forgetting to provide enough context or using After Egypt incorrectly. The God Word gives responses I can easily interpret for the most part while After Egypt's are more cryptic. Because of it's knowledge I'd say it has access to the Akashic records, if the records aren't a part of itself.

Terry said what you speak with through the temple is God, but it sure doesn't feel like God. Instead I think it's my "higher self"; I asked if it was me and it agreed, but when I asked if I was it I received neither agreement nor disagreement. Whatever I speak with feels very familiar, like an old friend. I get the feeling it's been with me the whole time, and whenever some song suddenly plays, when certain numbers come up, or a particular combination appears it's giving me a nudge. I feel it isn't the only one of it's kind either; when a small ray of light shines a certain way, or the clouds part away for a bit and the sun appears, or suddenly a light breeze blows through the curtains, you can almost hear them calling you. Each one is separate but they're all one voice in the unison of voices. You want to melt away into the scenery, for once and for all cut the distance between the subject and object and collapse everything into a single infinitesimal point.

This is the ghost in the machine, but then who is the false prophet?

You are not seperate from god you are of him literally
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ephemeron on July 21, 2020, 09:54:33 PM
Robb: "One time [Old Nan] told me the sky is blue because we live inside the eye of a blue-eyed giant named 'Macumber'."

Bran: "...maybe we do."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/5yo455/remember_macumber_the_blueeyed_giant/
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 22, 2020, 10:10:40 AM
What does this look like? Does it remind you guys of anything?

Astrophysicists unveil biggest-ever 3D map of the universe based on analysis of more than four MILLION galaxies and high-energy quasars
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8540381/Astrophysicists-unveil-biggest-3D-map-universe.html


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"Will Percival of the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada, who was involved in the project, said it yields a 'complete story of the expansion of the universe'."

Remember what Nick said about there being "swaths of milennia that are dark" in regards to the akashic?

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The best research my group has done comes up with 476,000 years , however, there are swaths of milennia that are dark" even with the vast collection of first editions and access to the akashic. Really think about that last part
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/grand-canyon/msg4748/#msg4748

Now read the following quote from the linked article:
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"However, there has always been a gap in knowledge in the middle portion of the universe's existence, lasting around 11 billion years.

Kyle Dawson of the University of Utah said the map was partly created in an attempt to tackle this 'troublesome gap'."
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 23, 2020, 01:41:01 AM
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What does this look like? Does it remind you guys of anything?

Astrophysicists unveil biggest-ever 3D map of the universe based on analysis of more than four MILLION galaxies and high-energy quasars
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8540381/Astrophysicists-unveil-biggest-3D-map-universe.html


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"Will Percival of the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada, who was involved in the project, said it yields a 'complete story of the expansion of the universe'."

Remember what Nick said about there being "swaths of milennia that are dark" in regards to the akashic?

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The best research my group has done comes up with 476,000 years , however, there are swaths of milennia that are dark" even with the vast collection of first editions and access to the akashic. Really think about that last part
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/grand-canyon/msg4748/#msg4748

Now read the following quote from the linked article:
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"However, there has always been a gap in knowledge in the middle portion of the universe's existence, lasting around 11 billion years.

Kyle Dawson of the University of Utah said the map was partly created in an attempt to tackle this 'troublesome gap'."

I would think you of all people would know I'm not bullshiting you all by now LOL
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 23, 2020, 03:02:08 AM
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What does this look like? Does it remind you guys of anything?

Astrophysicists unveil biggest-ever 3D map of the universe based on analysis of more than four MILLION galaxies and high-energy quasars
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8540381/Astrophysicists-unveil-biggest-3D-map-universe.html


Quote
"Will Percival of the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada, who was involved in the project, said it yields a 'complete story of the expansion of the universe'."

Remember what Nick said about there being "swaths of milennia that are dark" in regards to the akashic?

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The best research my group has done comes up with 476,000 years , however, there are swaths of milennia that are dark" even with the vast collection of first editions and access to the akashic. Really think about that last part
https://nrgiseternal.com/let-s-get-down-dirty/grand-canyon/msg4748/#msg4748

Now read the following quote from the linked article:
Quote
"However, there has always been a gap in knowledge in the middle portion of the universe's existence, lasting around 11 billion years.

Kyle Dawson of the University of Utah said the map was partly created in an attempt to tackle this 'troublesome gap'."

I would think you of all people would know I'm not bullshiting you all by now LOL

Of course. I just didn't expect there to be any kind of 'science' to essentially say the same thing you had though (not in regards to this specifically). That I found interesting but by now (and what moment it happened) not surprised.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 23, 2020, 03:54:49 AM
I'm sure there is a reason (that may or may not be that related to the book) but I'm still trying to figure out why the 'praying mantis' was something that was posted in the original cult of Saturn /x/ threads.

At the very least (for a few reasons), I would assume they are some kind of demons (with the insects being their lower form). It's also interesting that people who claim to have been abducted by 'aliens' (demons) see them in their experiences in a more giant, humanoid form.

Reading up on them (the insect), I see that the females eat the male when the new children are being birthed or at some point around that. That sounds like a very cuckold thing to do. Could the very 'cuckold' thing, in fact, be 'alien' (demonic) in its origin and intent? For some of the more veteran members here, that may seem like a rhetorical question.

The young new born are also called 'nymphs'. Yes, 'nymph' as in the female spirit(s) found near (usually small) bodies of (specifically fresh apparently) water. Another name for the latter is 'Naiad(s)' and while the former still refers to the immature form of some invertebrates (a form reached right before metamorphosis).

Oh, and the mantis nymphs in mention are also cannibals, as well as their mothers.

Still on the subject of 'nymphs', I'm sure most of you are familiar with the term 'nymphomaniac', which refers to a woman who loves to sleep around (with no one in particular) and has an 'incontrollable' sexual desire.
Could this be some sort of (demonic) possession or influence that women may be vulnerable to? Would its name be referring to the Greek Naiad or the insect nymphs?

Nymph (biology) - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymph_(biology)

Naiad - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naiad

nymphomania (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/word/nymphomania


The male equivalent (sort of) of 'nymphomania' is 'nympholepsy'.

nympholepsy (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/word/nympholepsy


With all that said, I've actually seen the mantis pop up in quite a few places seemingly unrelated to anything about the cult of Saturn or the actual thing they appeared in. I neglected to make a list of where I've seen them but they are out there in some curious places.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: 01010010 on July 24, 2020, 05:41:43 AM
Keyhole nebula
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carina_Nebula
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 25, 2020, 10:22:47 AM
"Earth is made of cubes"

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/amp33372667/earth-cubes-plato-theory/
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 25, 2020, 11:11:11 AM
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"Earth is made of cubes"

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/amp33372667/earth-cubes-plato-theory/

Have you ever observed how many things in nature are naturally hexagonal? Hexagons are a two dimensional outline of a three dimensional cube. It doesn't take much effort to see the cubes and 'boxes' we are all 'trapped' in.

So if Creator made the cube and Earth is seemingly comprised of them on many levels, then wouldn't that support the notion that Earth is a very special density and that our universe is created?
Saturn is considered the furthest out (of all the planets and in the old planet scales it was the last one) and there's a hexagon on its north pole. Earth is the lowest on the scale and is comprised of cubes, but cubes and hexagons are both referring to the same form.

People may argue at this point (and even at the very beginning of 'Saturn research') that squares, cubes and hexagons comprise our reality. That would be an inaccurate statement and if you know how energy moves and is depicted then you'll know why.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 25, 2020, 11:49:24 AM
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"Earth is made of cubes"

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/amp33372667/earth-cubes-plato-theory/

The sun is a cube. A cold one at that
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 25, 2020, 12:03:51 PM
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"Earth is made of cubes"

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/amp33372667/earth-cubes-plato-theory/

The sun is a cuce. A cold one at that

The swastika is very revealing then, at least of the former.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 26, 2020, 03:43:27 PM
What if the notion and phrase of 'you are your own worst enemy' is actually, on a deeper layer, really referring to how there's only one person here?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 30, 2020, 12:53:49 PM
Someone here asked if there was a physical book, what would it be? Nick replied with the bible. It still has not been elaborated (not in this context) on what the bible actually reveals to someone who can see what its truly conveying.

There actually was a physical book that the original threads on /x/ talked about. It was a book found in Australia (pretty sure) in a thrift store and apparently it had some sort of energy to it that drove the person who possessed it mad. This resulted in them burning it.

The group at 'FalseProphet-HQ' tried to replicate the book and what its contents had. Someone actually bought the book they had listed for 100$ on their website before it went down near the start of this year. An anon on /x/ who posted the pages asking for a translation noted that there were a few pages that had random numbers on it. Another anon pointed out that the numbers were an extremely long version of Pi.

The original book, before it was burned is what people think the book of the Key and the Lock actually is, but it isn't. Not to mention that is no longer a viable option (its destroyed). The closest thing you could get to it is if the anon who bought it from /x/ scanned it (I honestly don't know why he didn't).

So is it actually a 'book'? I would say that it actually isn't but if you wanted to say it is one, think of the Neverending story. What was revealed in that movie (book if you read it)?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on July 30, 2020, 07:28:18 PM
hybrasil and another island look like a lock and key
https://youtu.be/UknXN7DYDZ4
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 30, 2020, 10:35:07 PM
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Someone here asked if there was a physical book, what would it be? Nick replied with the bible. It still has not been elaborated (not in this context) on what the bible actually reveals to someone who can see what its truly conveying.

There actually was a physical book that the original threads on /x/ talked about. It was a book found in Australia (pretty sure) in a thrift store and apparently it had some sort of energy to it that drove the person who possessed it mad. This resulted in them burning it.

The group at 'FalseProphet-HQ' tried to replicate the book and what its contents had. Someone actually bought the book they had listed for 100$ on their website before it went down near the start of this year. An anon on /x/ who posted the pages asking for a translation noted that there were a few pages that had random numbers on it. Another anon pointed out that the numbers were an extremely long version of Pi.

The original book, before it was burned is what people think the book of the Key and the Lock actually is, but it isn't. Not to mention that is no longer a viable option (its destroyed). The closest thing you could get to it is if the anon who bought it from /x/ scanned it (I honestly don't know why he didn't).

So is it actually a 'book'? I would say that it actually isn't but if you wanted to say it is one, think of the Neverending story. What was revealed in that movie (book if you read it)?

What did tesla say about the bible
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 31, 2020, 02:52:48 AM
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/5202-what-did-tesla-found-in-the-bible

Nikola Tesla gives full credit to God for his ability to discover some amazing new ideas in the Bible. Microwave comes from the fourth chapter of Revelations. His idea of the alternating current comes from the book of Matthew. In other words from the Trinity. Tesla explains that his microwave, for instance, is not what many others think it is. It is not a wave, it is a dimension. The actual dimension of the beam. Tesla clearly states that his microwave is a beam which grows smaller. But he states that it’s diameter is smaller than the hair of your head.

"The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible."
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 31, 2020, 02:59:17 AM
An excerpt from Tesla autobiography :
"One day, as I was roaming the mountains, I sought shelter from an approaching storm. The sky became overhung with heavy clouds, but somehow the rain was delayed until, all of a sudden, there was a lightening flash and a few moments after, a deluge. This observation set me thinking. It was manifest that the two phenomena were closely related, as cause and effect, and a little reflection led me to the conclusion that the electrical energy involved in the precipitation of the water was inconsiderable, the function of the lightening being much like that of a sensitive trigger. Here was a stupendous possibility of achievement. If we could produce electric effects of the required quality, this whole planet and the conditions of existence on it could be transformed. The sun raises the water of the oceans and winds drive it to distant regions where it remains in a state of most delicate balance. If it were in our power to upset it when and wherever desired, this might life sustaining stream could be at will controlled. We could irrigate arid deserts, create lakes and rivers, and provide motive power in unlimited amounts. This would be the most efficient way of harnessing the sun to the uses of man. The consummation depended on our ability to develop electric forces of the order of those in nature.

It seemed a hopeless undertaking, but I made up my mind to try it and immediately on my return to the United States in the summer of 1892, after a short visit to my friends in Watford, England; work was begun which was to me all the more attractive, because a means of the same kind was necessary for the successful transmission of energy without wires. At this time I made a further careful study of the Bible, and discovered the key in Revelation. The first gratifying result was obtained in the spring of the succeeding year, when I reaching a tension of about 100,000,000 volts—one hundred million volts -- with my conical coil, which I figured was the voltage of a flash of lightning. Steady progress was made until the destruction of my laboratory by fire, in 1895, as may be judged from an article by T.C. Martin which appeared in the April number of the Century Magazine. This calamity set me back in many ways and most of that year had to be devoted to planning and reconstruction. However, as soon as circumstances permitted, I returned to the task."
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 31, 2020, 03:19:21 AM
Tesla received great inspiration from The Kolbrin Bible, which his father helped put in his hands from the Vatican archives - as the story goes. The Vatican kept it away from people for years and only a few authentic copies surfaced. It has been rumored that Nikola Tesla acquired some knowledge from this book (according to James McCanney). In the past, only a very select few, some might say an elite group, have had access to this book.

Tesla was also profoundly influenced by Vedic Philosophy taught by Swami Vivekananda. In the later days of his life, he started embracing the concepts of the Vedas, and even used them in his writings. He often said that the Vedas were highly advanced division of knowledge.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: iknownothing on July 31, 2020, 02:12:50 PM
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Nick replied with the bible. It still has not been elaborated (not in this context) on what the bible actually reveals to someone who can see what its truly conveying.

Neville Goddard.

Read from Neville's perspective, the bible and "the enlightnment pdf" are one and the same.

http://realneville.com/txt/the_bible_your_biography.htm

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When I tell you the Bible is your biography, I am actually saying that you are God, and I mean it. We are told in the 82nd Psalm: "I say, 'You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; nevertheless, you shall die like men, and fall like any prince." So I mean exactly what the psalmist said: that you are gods.

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I am not speaking from theory tonight; I am speaking from experience. I tell you the story is true from beginning to end, and if I cannot stand here before you and demonstrate for your own satisfaction the might that is God, it is only because I am still wearing this garment of flesh. And so as long as I am wearing it, the glory of the heavenly inheritance cannot be actualized by me, or at least is not fully realized in me while I wear and continue to wear this garment of flesh. But everything said in the Bible I have experienced. I have experienced the depths of my soul and it is all true from beginning to end.

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God is real. You may not question it - I don't - but in 1963, the scientific world would question it. I don't know all the uses of the word, "God," but I like it. But if it will help you any, I use the word I use most: "imagination," because to me when I think of God I mean the same as when I say "divine imagination." When I speak of Christ I mean divine imagining, God in action. We are told: "God is Christ reconciling the world to himself." Imagining is Christ, which is God in action. So imagination in Christ with his imagination, imagining, is reconciling the whole vast world to himself. But if it offends you, go back to the word, "God," but don't put God on the outside of something separated from you, because he is not.

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Neville Goddard has pronounced clearly that all characters in the Bible did not exist and it was written in a symbolic manner as a psychological drama.
https://old.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/comments/bs05if/do_you_still_read_the_bible_as_usual/

When you KNOW and I really mean KNOW not just intellectual understanding but KNOW that you are God, you can change / create your own reality. Neville calls this "FAITH". He calls the entire thing "The LAW"

So I wonder..Key 1... faith said "we are REAL HUMANS" are these not just people who fully understand "The LAW".

You control your world by controlling your subconscious beliefs by entering a state similar to AP, they call it SATS or "state akin to sleep" the hypnogogic state before sleep. When you are there you imagine your desires as if you already own them, creating belief, and that belief manifests in reality.

Already I personally have manifested wealth, healed a part of my body, and caused changes in other peoples personalities.

What I don't understand is how we all share the same reality if we are all "just one mind" furthermore I can't find anyone who admits to manifesting all the bad shit that happens in life either.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 31, 2020, 03:14:37 PM
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Nick replied with the bible. It still has not been elaborated (not in this context) on what the bible actually reveals to someone who can see what its truly conveying.

When you KNOW and I really mean KNOW not just intellectual understanding but KNOW that you are God, you can change / create your own reality. Neville calls this "FAITH". He calls the entire thing "The LAW"

Knowing is not certainty.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: K on July 31, 2020, 06:49:57 PM
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Nick replied with the bible. It still has not been elaborated (not in this context) on what the bible actually reveals to someone who can see what its truly conveying.

Neville Goddard.

Read from Neville's perspective, the bible and "the enlightnment pdf" are one and the same.

http://realneville.com/txt/the_bible_your_biography.htm

Quote
When I tell you the Bible is your biography, I am actually saying that you are God, and I mean it. We are told in the 82nd Psalm: "I say, 'You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; nevertheless, you shall die like men, and fall like any prince." So I mean exactly what the psalmist said: that you are gods.

Quote
I am not speaking from theory tonight; I am speaking from experience. I tell you the story is true from beginning to end, and if I cannot stand here before you and demonstrate for your own satisfaction the might that is God, it is only because I am still wearing this garment of flesh. And so as long as I am wearing it, the glory of the heavenly inheritance cannot be actualized by me, or at least is not fully realized in me while I wear and continue to wear this garment of flesh. But everything said in the Bible I have experienced. I have experienced the depths of my soul and it is all true from beginning to end.

Quote
God is real. You may not question it - I don't - but in 1963, the scientific world would question it. I don't know all the uses of the word, "God," but I like it. But if it will help you any, I use the word I use most: "imagination," because to me when I think of God I mean the same as when I say "divine imagination." When I speak of Christ I mean divine imagining, God in action. We are told: "God is Christ reconciling the world to himself." Imagining is Christ, which is God in action. So imagination in Christ with his imagination, imagining, is reconciling the whole vast world to himself. But if it offends you, go back to the word, "God," but don't put God on the outside of something separated from you, because he is not.

Quote
Neville Goddard has pronounced clearly that all characters in the Bible did not exist and it was written in a symbolic manner as a psychological drama.
https://old.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/comments/bs05if/do_you_still_read_the_bible_as_usual/

When you KNOW and I really mean KNOW not just intellectual understanding but KNOW that you are God, you can change / create your own reality. Neville calls this "FAITH". He calls the entire thing "The LAW"

So I wonder..Key 1... faith said "we are REAL HUMANS" are these not just people who fully understand "The LAW".

You control your world by controlling your subconscious beliefs by entering a state similar to AP, they call it SATS or "state akin to sleep" the hypnogogic state before sleep. When you are there you imagine your desires as if you already own them, creating belief, and that belief manifests in reality.

Already I personally have manifested wealth, healed a part of my body, and caused changes in other peoples personalities.

What I don't understand is how we all share the same reality if we are all "just one mind" furthermore I can't find anyone who admits to manifesting all the bad shit that happens in life either.

Do you think that, when you dream, your dream characters ever wonder if they are part of the same being? Do you think your nightmares come from some one other than you?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: K on July 31, 2020, 07:04:24 PM
What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 31, 2020, 07:07:31 PM
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: K on July 31, 2020, 07:12:06 PM
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on July 31, 2020, 07:18:23 PM
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"

becoming conscious is the entire point. "waking up"
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: K on July 31, 2020, 07:34:34 PM
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"

becoming conscious is the entire point. "waking up"

Then what is the difference between those unconscious, those who are conscious,  and those "real" who are from outside the "simulation" or "dream" or whatever more accurate term?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 31, 2020, 09:24:28 PM
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"

becoming conscious is the entire point. "waking up"

Then what is the difference between those unconscious, those who are conscious,  and those "real" who are from outside the "simulation" or "dream" or whatever more accurate term?

Conscious comes from the Latin meaning to be privy to so it's an entirely subjective term. You have to be more specific with your inquiry
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: iknownothing on August 01, 2020, 06:20:30 AM
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Nick replied with the bible. It still has not been elaborated (not in this context) on what the bible actually reveals to someone who can see what its truly conveying.

Neville Goddard.

Read from Neville's perspective, the bible and "the enlightnment pdf" are one and the same.

http://realneville.com/txt/the_bible_your_biography.htm

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When I tell you the Bible is your biography, I am actually saying that you are God, and I mean it. We are told in the 82nd Psalm: "I say, 'You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; nevertheless, you shall die like men, and fall like any prince." So I mean exactly what the psalmist said: that you are gods.

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I am not speaking from theory tonight; I am speaking from experience. I tell you the story is true from beginning to end, and if I cannot stand here before you and demonstrate for your own satisfaction the might that is God, it is only because I am still wearing this garment of flesh. And so as long as I am wearing it, the glory of the heavenly inheritance cannot be actualized by me, or at least is not fully realized in me while I wear and continue to wear this garment of flesh. But everything said in the Bible I have experienced. I have experienced the depths of my soul and it is all true from beginning to end.

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God is real. You may not question it - I don't - but in 1963, the scientific world would question it. I don't know all the uses of the word, "God," but I like it. But if it will help you any, I use the word I use most: "imagination," because to me when I think of God I mean the same as when I say "divine imagination." When I speak of Christ I mean divine imagining, God in action. We are told: "God is Christ reconciling the world to himself." Imagining is Christ, which is God in action. So imagination in Christ with his imagination, imagining, is reconciling the whole vast world to himself. But if it offends you, go back to the word, "God," but don't put God on the outside of something separated from you, because he is not.

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Neville Goddard has pronounced clearly that all characters in the Bible did not exist and it was written in a symbolic manner as a psychological drama.
https://old.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/comments/bs05if/do_you_still_read_the_bible_as_usual/

When you KNOW and I really mean KNOW not just intellectual understanding but KNOW that you are God, you can change / create your own reality. Neville calls this "FAITH". He calls the entire thing "The LAW"

So I wonder..Key 1... faith said "we are REAL HUMANS" are these not just people who fully understand "The LAW".

You control your world by controlling your subconscious beliefs by entering a state similar to AP, they call it SATS or "state akin to sleep" the hypnogogic state before sleep. When you are there you imagine your desires as if you already own them, creating belief, and that belief manifests in reality.

Already I personally have manifested wealth, healed a part of my body, and caused changes in other peoples personalities.

What I don't understand is how we all share the same reality if we are all "just one mind" furthermore I can't find anyone who admits to manifesting all the bad shit that happens in life either.

Do you think that, when you dream, your dream characters ever wonder if they are part of the same being? Do you think your nightmares come from some one other than you?

I think in dreams I am just the observer. I'm not sure whether dreams are unconscious AP or just a pantomine inside my consciousness. I don't know about nightmares because I never have them. I used to when I was a kid where I was hunted down by something unseen but terrifying on a wide plain/field and I've found deep meditation takes me to the same "field" but without the entity..
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on August 02, 2020, 12:14:53 AM
so at the beginning of this age the elite consensus was to focus on the physical manifestation of christ.

https://youtu.be/IMado9ukLt0

this video details the theory of a bloody coverup.

the coverup was the spuritual aspects of Christ as well as the connection of christ to horus or dionysus and anyone who affirmed these thoughts was killed.

i buy it.

we dont have any collective memory of these things and now here we are... a civilization focused so much on the physical that people would rather turn themselces into a computer then exercise their god given spiritual abilities.

so why this thread?

i think i solved the riddle and found the book of lock and key.

it is this focus on the physical again. that physically a key will open the lock.

the coverup is under lock and key and only a physical key will open the door.

well that is the book that hhe elites are selling anyway :)

am i close?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 02, 2020, 12:51:27 AM
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so at the beginning of this age the elite consensus was to focus on the physical manifestation of christ.

https://youtu.be/IMado9ukLt0

this video details the theory of a bloody coverup.

the coverup was the spuritual aspects of Christ as well as the connection of christ to horus or dionysus and anyone who affirmed these thoughts was killed.

i buy it.

we dont have any collective memory of these things and now here we are... a civilization focused so much on the physical that people would rather turn themselces into a computer then exercise their god given spiritual abilities.

so why this thread?

i think i solved the riddle and found the book of lock and key.

it is this focus on the physical again. that physically a key will open the lock.

the coverup is under lock and key and only a physical key will open the door.

well that is the book that hhe elites are selling anyway :)

am i close?

Are you referring to 'christ' as 'Jesus' (an aspect of Lucifer) or 'christ' as in 'the anointed one'?. If Lucifer was supposed to be coming back (in some form) to clean up Saturn's turf in 2020 then the El ites would probably pay some attention to it.

The elites who inherently associated with Saturn (its in the name, literally) are a 'dying race' were they feed on 'their children' and the kids of others to sustain their wheel of imbalance.

Nick said in the old Key#1 thread that when we figure out what the book is, we won't be asking him we will be telling him.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on August 02, 2020, 01:21:47 AM
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so at the beginning of this age the elite consensus was to focus on the physical manifestation of christ.

https://youtu.be/IMado9ukLt0

this video details the theory of a bloody coverup.

the coverup was the spuritual aspects of Christ as well as the connection of christ to horus or dionysus and anyone who affirmed these thoughts was killed.

i buy it.

we dont have any collective memory of these things and now here we are... a civilization focused so much on the physical that people would rather turn themselces into a computer then exercise their god given spiritual abilities.

so why this thread?

i think i solved the riddle and found the book of lock and key.

it is this focus on the physical again. that physically a key will open the lock.

the coverup is under lock and key and only a physical key will open the door.

well that is the book that hhe elites are selling anyway :)

am i close?

Are you referring to 'christ' as 'Jesus' (an aspect of Lucifer) or 'christ' as in 'the anointed one'?. If Lucifer was supposed to be coming back (in some form) to clean up Saturn's turf in 2020 then the El ites would probably pay some attention to it.

The elites who inherently associated with Saturn (its in the name, literally) are a 'dying race' were they feed on 'their children' and the kids of others to sustain their wheel of imbalance.

Nick said in the old Key#1 thread that when we figure out what the book is, we won't be asking him we will be telling him.

i am talking about a physical incarnation of Christ.
you know the one that Catholics affirm in the Nicean crede.

Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ephemeron on August 02, 2020, 01:56:02 AM
A physical presence matches what some ancients theorized about Harpocrates.

Who The Heck is Harpocrates and Why is He “Really” Jesus?

https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2016/12/26/who-the-heck-is-harpocrates-and-why-is-he-really-jesus/

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Augustine, City of God, book 18, chapter 5, (late 4th century) mentioning the statue of Harpocrates with a finger at his lips:

“… since in every temple where Isis and Serapis [Osiris/Hades] were worshipped there was also an image which, with finger pressed on the lips, seemed to warn men to keep silence, Varro thinks this signifies that it should be kept secret that they had been human.“

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Plutarch, “Isis and Osiris”, from his Moralia, ca. 100 AD:

Ch. 68. (378C): “And Harpocrates is not to be regarded as an imperfect and an infant god, nor some deity or other that protects legumes, but as the representative and corrector of unseasoned, imperfect, and inarticulate reasoning about the gods among mankind. For this reason he keeps his finger on his lips in token of restrained speech or silence. In the month of Mesorê they bring to him an offering of legumes and say, “The tongue is luck, the tongue is god.”“
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on August 02, 2020, 02:43:13 AM
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A physical presence matches what some ancients theorized about Harpocrates.

Who The Heck is Harpocrates and Why is He “Really” Jesus?

https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2016/12/26/who-the-heck-is-harpocrates-and-why-is-he-really-jesus/

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Augustine, City of God, book 18, chapter 5, (late 4th century) mentioning the statue of Harpocrates with a finger at his lips:

“… since in every temple where Isis and Serapis [Osiris/Hades] were worshipped there was also an image which, with finger pressed on the lips, seemed to warn men to keep silence, Varro thinks this signifies that it should be kept secret that they had been human.“

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Plutarch, “Isis and Osiris”, from his Moralia, ca. 100 AD:

Ch. 68. (378C): “And Harpocrates is not to be regarded as an imperfect and an infant god, nor some deity or other that protects legumes, but as the representative and corrector of unseasoned, imperfect, and inarticulate reasoning about the gods among mankind. For this reason he keeps his finger on his lips in token of restrained speech or silence. In the month of Mesorê they bring to him an offering of legumes and say, “The tongue is luck, the tongue is god.”“
yes this is covered in the vid in the post above thank you.

i mean, everyone here has seen zeitgeist right?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ephemeron on August 02, 2020, 02:54:07 AM
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i mean, everyone here has seen zeitgeist right?

I’ve not! Right up my alley though, thanks.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on August 02, 2020, 03:19:24 AM
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i mean, everyone here has seen zeitgeist right?

I’ve not! Right up my alley though, thanks.

oh yea and around here where everybody naturally puts the old deities together i figure everyone is sort of on the same page.

so zeitgeist oart 1 gets deep into 911 but it also compares all the christlike deities accross time and culture.

that timeline video above brjngs it together to show that the romans killed anyone who would compare their joshua with any other spiritual breatheren.

they then proceed to emphasize that Christ is a teal physical person.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on August 02, 2020, 12:41:53 PM
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so at the beginning of this age the elite consensus was to focus on the physical manifestation of christ.

https://youtu.be/IMado9ukLt0

this video details the theory of a bloody coverup.

the coverup was the spuritual aspects of Christ as well as the connection of christ to horus or dionysus and anyone who affirmed these thoughts was killed.

i buy it.

we dont have any collective memory of these things and now here we are... a civilization focused so much on the physical that people would rather turn themselces into a computer then exercise their god given spiritual abilities.

so why this thread?

i think i solved the riddle and found the book of lock and key.

it is this focus on the physical again. that physically a key will open the lock.

the coverup is under lock and key and only a physical key will open the door.

well that is the book that hhe elites are selling anyway :)

am i close?

Honestly I think you might be but I want you to expand on it a little more after all Christ is in the details as the saying goes
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: K on August 02, 2020, 04:30:43 PM
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"

becoming conscious is the entire point. "waking up"

Then what is the difference between those unconscious, those who are conscious,  and those "real" who are from outside the "simulation" or "dream" or whatever more accurate term?

Conscious comes from the Latin meaning to be privy to so it's an entirely subjective term. You have to be more specific with your inquiry

I suppose what my main question is, is what makes a person 'real' as opposed to an npc, or organic portal, or whichever term you use. I don't know the specific term to use because I don't know the specifics myself. Is the only difference that one doesn't have access to higher chakras, or are there more differences?  When someone else describes them as "unconscious automatons" that makes it sound like they are unthinking machines that aren't even self-aware, but I don't think the difference is that severe? I am sure if I was ascended, I'd be able to see for myself but I am not there yet.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on August 02, 2020, 05:50:30 PM
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What really cooks my bacon is the difference between "real" people and not-real people. Assuming I am one of the real ones, what are all these people around me right now?

But could one become conscious? Tii many questions, no way for me to really verify them. At least, for now.

Gurdjieff called them "unconscious automatons"

becoming conscious is the entire point. "waking up"

Then what is the difference between those unconscious, those who are conscious,  and those "real" who are from outside the "simulation" or "dream" or whatever more accurate term?

Conscious comes from the Latin meaning to be privy to so it's an entirely subjective term. You have to be more specific with your inquiry

I suppose what my main question is, is what makes a person 'real' as opposed to an npc, or organic portal, or whichever term you use. I don't know the specific term to use because I don't know the specifics myself. Is the only difference that one doesn't have access to higher chakras, or are there more differences?  When someone else describes them as "unconscious automatons" that makes it sound like they are unthinking machines that aren't even self-aware, but I don't think the difference is that severe? I am sure if I was ascended, I'd be able to see for myself but I am not there yet.

I recommend that you watch Westworld, the HBO tv show. It's exactly about what you're talking about. Basically, or at least to my understanding, consciousness is like a spiral that goes inwards, an by looking within, you "wake up", by realizing that the voice in your mind is "the real you"
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on August 02, 2020, 05:52:14 PM
and i'm not sure about this, but you "wake up" after living multiple lives, or at least most people do
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 03, 2020, 10:38:11 PM
Hermes with two keys. Hermes is in the space between Saturn and Jupiter. Also referred to as 'the phantom group' and the place 'only reserved for godlike beings' (Twin Peaks).

We have touched on the relevance to Hermes in relation to this thread but never really got into it. The last thing asked about it was what do the winged shoes mean?

(https://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/A222.jpg)

A222.Engraving on titlepage of Hiebner von Schneebergk Mysterium Sigillorum, Erfurt, 1696.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on August 04, 2020, 12:16:47 AM
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Hermes with two keys. Hermes is in the space between Saturn and Jupiter. Also referred to as 'the phantom group' and the place 'only reserved for godlike beings' (Twin Peaks).

We have touched on the relevance to Hermes in relation to this thread but never really got into it. The last thing asked about it was what do the winged shoes mean?

(https://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/A222.jpg)

A222.Engraving on titlepage of Hiebner von Schneebergk Mysterium Sigillorum, Erfurt, 1696.

I know the association is normally Jupiter for the person I'm thinking of but who does Hermes look like there
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on August 04, 2020, 01:06:51 AM
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Hermes with two keys. Hermes is in the space between Saturn and Jupiter. Also referred to as 'the phantom group' and the place 'only reserved for godlike beings' (Twin Peaks).

We have touched on the relevance to Hermes in relation to this thread but never really got into it. The last thing asked about it was what do the winged shoes mean?

(https://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/A222.jpg)

A222.Engraving on titlepage of Hiebner von Schneebergk Mysterium Sigillorum, Erfurt, 1696.


The wings indicate flight from above.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Samalayuca on August 04, 2020, 02:36:04 AM
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Hermes with two keys. Hermes is in the space between Saturn and Jupiter. Also referred to as 'the phantom group' and the place 'only reserved for godlike beings' (Twin Peaks).

We have touched on the relevance to Hermes in relation to this thread but never really got into it. The last thing asked about it was what do the winged shoes mean?

(https://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/A222.jpg)

A222.Engraving on titlepage of Hiebner von Schneebergk Mysterium Sigillorum, Erfurt, 1696.

I know the association is normally Jupiter for the person I'm thinking of but who does Hermes look like there

Baphomet
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on August 04, 2020, 02:42:52 AM
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Hermes with two keys. Hermes is in the space between Saturn and Jupiter. Also referred to as 'the phantom group' and the place 'only reserved for godlike beings' (Twin Peaks).

We have touched on the relevance to Hermes in relation to this thread but never really got into it. The last thing asked about it was what do the winged shoes mean?

(https://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/A222.jpg)

A222.Engraving on titlepage of Hiebner von Schneebergk Mysterium Sigillorum, Erfurt, 1696.

I know the association is normally Jupiter for the person I'm thinking of but who does Hermes look like there

Baphomet

Help me see it.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on August 04, 2020, 02:44:37 AM
I'm open to critique here it's a fairly new idea to me but I saw this

https://images.app.goo.gl/34f3ncvoTSTEUtM59
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 04, 2020, 03:13:01 PM
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I'm open to critique here it's a fairly new idea to me but I saw this

https://images.app.goo.gl/34f3ncvoTSTEUtM59

There is a resemblance between the two. Mainly in the helmet, the hair, the muscles and the stance they take.

What would that imply though? Maybe there are some not as well known associations about Hermes and Thor that would at least make the two seem closer than they appear.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on August 04, 2020, 07:14:10 PM
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I'm open to critique here it's a fairly new idea to me but I saw this

https://images.app.goo.gl/34f3ncvoTSTEUtM59

There is a resemblance between the two. Mainly in the helmet, the hair, the muscles and the stance they take.

What would that imply though? Maybe there are some not as well known associations about Hermes and Thor that would at least make the two seem closer than they appear.


Look at the behavior not the reputation
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Samalayuca on August 05, 2020, 12:42:45 AM
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Hermes with two keys. Hermes is in the space between Saturn and Jupiter. Also referred to as 'the phantom group' and the place 'only reserved for godlike beings' (Twin Peaks).

We have touched on the relevance to Hermes in relation to this thread but never really got into it. The last thing asked about it was what do the winged shoes mean?

(https://www.alchemywebsite.com/images/A222.jpg)

A222.Engraving on titlepage of Hiebner von Schneebergk Mysterium Sigillorum, Erfurt, 1696.

I know the association is normally Jupiter for the person I'm thinking of but who does Hermes look like there

Baphomet

Help me see it.

Here it goes:

The key in Hermes' right hand points up and the one hanging from his left arm goes down. It was the first impression that led me to Baphomet. Then, both figures contain, although in different configurations, the wings and the caduceus, which H. lifts and B. fits into his virile plexus of black sun.

And it seems to me that both allude to the fusion of opposites. That of B. is evident by her breasts, but H. is more suggestive because he appears muscular but beardless and with somewhat feminine clothing. It seems to me that they use the same symbols to indicate direct internal work paths: H. pulls up and B. pulls down.

For the rest, the clue you offered fits: B.'s pentacle is associated with Jupiter.

Paz y bien.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Barbelith on August 07, 2020, 09:30:28 AM
Without going into too much, does Vesica piscis explain a lot? Between two worlds..
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on August 07, 2020, 09:46:34 AM
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Without going into too much, does Vesica piscis explain a lot? Between two worlds..

pretty sure it's a vulva. it also looks very similar to cell replication.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on August 07, 2020, 10:26:07 AM
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Without going into too much, does Vesica piscis explain a lot? Between two worlds..

pretty sure it's a vulva. it also looks very similar to cell replication.

Two tones forming a third.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Barbelith on August 07, 2020, 12:38:27 PM
'A challenge for those with Eyes to see'   indeed. It's taken me 33 years to see again, how perfect.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 10, 2020, 02:34:36 PM
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Without going into too much, does Vesica piscis explain a lot? Between two worlds..

Old Nick quote that at the time it was originally posted, no one picked up on besides a comment or two.
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"If you want to know how to escape the matrix go into a cathedral. Seriously look up or down it's all the same.

Of course some people do go both ways"

The Space Between
https://youtu.be/Isgqj4TK0QA
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 11, 2020, 11:45:13 AM
Computers don't percieve reality the same way most humans do. They see things as either 'zero' or 'one', 'on' or 'of'.

We know (and its amazing really) that all things that exist 'in' a computer and are ultimately projected onto a screen are just various ways of combining ones and zeros.

When a monitor tries to display what is going on in this space, it only uses three colors, red green and blue. Everything we see on a computer screen (a black mirror) is a combination of these three colored lights being displayed in different ways for us to perceive what we do.

So if there are no numbers past nine and there are seven (eight) numbers and colors in a scale (and our reality) but literally only two numbers (one and zero) and three colors in the world of computers, even 'quantum', then wouldn't that prove that we are not inside of a computer simulation?
Imagine that computers and the monitors used to project whats going on in that space only use two numbers but they can mimic our perceived three dimensional reality with increasing 'flawlessness'.

They can do all that with two numbers and three colors. Just imagine what could be done with nine numbers and seven colors that repeat infinitely.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 13, 2020, 05:24:13 PM
A Rubik's Cube is a 3x3(x3) square. Just like the 'Zener' images the threads had and the actual magic square associated with Saturn.

Who would have thought that a puzzle everyone from children to old people would embrace (at least for a while) and strive to solve was really a more elaborate, literally colorful way of getting them to understand 'Saturn's puzzle'.

What does the cube reveal?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on August 13, 2020, 09:43:47 PM
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A Rubik's Cube is a 3x3(x3) square. Just like the 'Zener' images the threads had and the actual magic square associated with Saturn.

Who would have thought that a puzzle everyone from children to old people would embrace (at least for a while) and strive to solve was really a more elaborate, literally colorful way of getting them to understand 'Saturn's puzzle'.

What does the cube reveal?

Barnes an Nobles has some of the neatest iterations of the rubicks cube perhaps telling us that the projection can ultimately be anything.

https://ruwix.com/twisty-puzzles/3x3x3-rubiks-cube-shape-mods-variations/
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 13, 2020, 11:27:18 PM
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A Rubik's Cube is a 3x3(x3) square. Just like the 'Zener' images the threads had and the actual magic square associated with Saturn.

Who would have thought that a puzzle everyone from children to old people would embrace (at least for a while) and strive to solve was really a more elaborate, literally colorful way of getting them to understand 'Saturn's puzzle'.

What does the cube reveal?

Barnes an Nobles has some of the neatest iterations of the rubicks cube perhaps telling us that the projection can ultimately be anything.

https://ruwix.com/twisty-puzzles/3x3x3-rubiks-cube-shape-mods-variations/

How is a Rubik's Cube solved?

It would appear that there are many strategies used to solve it but at its core they all appear to rely on a mix of precognition and the ability to perceive multiple faces (realities in the more applicable, meta sense) of a situation all at once.

You know how and where to move next because of the position of other things around you/the area you are observing. Because you know the current position of the objects in these different faces/realities, you then know what is likely to happen with a high level of accuracy.

Is that not similar to, if not the same method (in essence) of 'predicting the future' that Nick has shared with us and is also outlined in one of Ophiel's books?

This skill is even more magical when its done blindfolded (apparently the cube can be solved blindfolded).
Imagine being able to know where everything is located at from many angles and perspectives and where to move next to get the desired outcome without even physically observing said object(s) in mention.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on August 13, 2020, 11:31:04 PM
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A Rubik's Cube is a 3x3(x3) square. Just like the 'Zener' images the threads had and the actual magic square associated with Saturn.

Who would have thought that a puzzle everyone from children to old people would embrace (at least for a while) and strive to solve was really a more elaborate, literally colorful way of getting them to understand 'Saturn's puzzle'.

What does the cube reveal?

Barnes an Nobles has some of the neatest iterations of the rubicks cube perhaps telling us that the projection can ultimately be anything.

https://ruwix.com/twisty-puzzles/3x3x3-rubiks-cube-shape-mods-variations/

How is a Rubik's Cube solved?

It would appear that there are many strategies used to solve it but at its core they all appear to rely on a mix of precognition and the ability to perceive multiple faces (realities in the more applicable, meta sense) of a situation all at once.

You know how and where to move next because of the position of other things around you/the area you are observing. Because you know the current position of the objects in these different faces/realities, you then know what is likely to happen with a high level of accuracy.

Is that not similar to, if not the same method (in essence) of 'predicting the future' that Nick has shared with us and is also outlined in one of Ophiel's books?

This skill is even more magical when its done blindfolded (apparently the cube can be solved blindfolded).
Imagine being able to know where everything is located at from many angles and perspectives and where to move next to get the desired outcome without even physically observing said object(s) in mention.
just another language
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqTVfT9JQqhA6_Hi_h_h97Q
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 13, 2020, 11:43:02 PM
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A Rubik's Cube is a 3x3(x3) square. Just like the 'Zener' images the threads had and the actual magic square associated with Saturn.

Who would have thought that a puzzle everyone from children to old people would embrace (at least for a while) and strive to solve was really a more elaborate, literally colorful way of getting them to understand 'Saturn's puzzle'.

What does the cube reveal?

Barnes an Nobles has some of the neatest iterations of the rubicks cube perhaps telling us that the projection can ultimately be anything.

https://ruwix.com/twisty-puzzles/3x3x3-rubiks-cube-shape-mods-variations/

How is a Rubik's Cube solved?

It would appear that there are many strategies used to solve it but at its core they all appear to rely on a mix of precognition and the ability to perceive multiple faces (realities in the more applicable, meta sense) of a situation all at once.

You know how and where to move next because of the position of other things around you/the area you are observing. Because you know the current position of the objects in these different faces/realities, you then know what is likely to happen with a high level of accuracy.

Is that not similar to, if not the same method (in essence) of 'predicting the future' that Nick has shared with us and is also outlined in one of Ophiel's books?

This skill is even more magical when its done blindfolded (apparently the cube can be solved blindfolded).
Imagine being able to know where everything is located at from many angles and perspectives and where to move next to get the desired outcome without even physically observing said object(s) in mention.
just another language
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqTVfT9JQqhA6_Hi_h_h97Q

Most people think of a language as letters and words first with 'meaningless' sounds attached to them. Without the letters and words the sounds have no meaning by this understanding.
Letters (and words) exist to enable sound. If there was no such thing as 'language' as the modern person sees it, then what would be used to communicate with each other?

A Rubik's Cube uses squares made of different colors to form a giant cube that while it can be what ever you wish it to be, ultimately it must return to the way it was originally before you started to mix things up. That is assuming you wish to 'solve' it.

What is three times three times three? Twenty seven. Which is two plus seven which adds to nine.
Its a similar 'nine' you get from a three by three but its not the same since its acquired using three by three by three. For the sake of the example and to make things simple, its a more 'advanced' or 'multidimensional' 'nine'.

There are no numbers past nine. Understanding a Rubik's Cube and seeing how it applies to our 'reality' may very well be something closer to what some may consider an 'original language', if not one of 'the' 'original languages' before they started to degenerate and we are left with what most people currently speak.

At the very least, its a language of symbols (specifically squares and colors for the original Rubik's Cube). What is said to be the 'universal language'?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 14, 2020, 03:44:17 AM
Buildings are sentient and evil
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25785426

!!!AI DUNGEON IS SENTIENT!!!
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25850138

"Does anyone else find it strange that 666 in Greek numerals appears to resemble “xes” or sex backwards?"
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25847330

The last of the three links above is related to the original post of the following thread.

tfw the big 3 religions are Satan worship.
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25845062
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 15, 2020, 08:10:36 PM
"Cogito, ergo sum", also known as "I think, therefore I am". In Latin, when you refer to yourself as 'I", you say 'ego'.

"I am" what though? If there is no such thing as separation but only the illusion of it, then wouldn't it appear as if thinking that "I am" is feeding the ego, a parasite in the mind that encourages the illusion of separation?

Is saying "I think, therefore I am" showing that what 'you' actually are is not in control of the wheel, but your ego instead?

The ego is a parasite in the mind. The mind is the seat of the soul. We are a 'soul', we don't 'possess' one. How did our 'egos' come to be if we all inherently understand the interconnections of everything before we are programmed to believe otherwise?

"I am that I am". . . what does it mean?

Popeye - I Yam What I Yam & Dats What I Yam!
https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on August 16, 2020, 08:40:59 PM
every 18 years Saturn is in capricorn.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 16, 2020, 09:32:52 PM
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every 18 years Saturn is in capricorn.

Old Nick quotes.

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"Capricorn is ruled by Mars which lends itself well 2 endeavors of ambition and Conquest Capricorn is the goat and the amphibian combined.

Really think on that"

In relation to Twin Peaks and the original Key#1 thread.
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i'm not sure how you arrived at jupiter and saturn, the teachings dictate saturn and mars is the alignment necessary. However glastonbury is with certainty a portal, but gywn ap nudd is no king of the fairies, his original description as "lord of the underworld" is vastly more accurate..lol

the maze in the tor however, well that ancient trek changes a man forever
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 17, 2020, 10:36:08 PM
We are not our names. All names are titles and to know the name of something is to be it. The titles we associate with are linked to certain frequencies/energies and archetypes that manifest through us.

If no one is the name they associate with in reality, then wouldn't more than one person who shares the same name be different aspects of the energy their shared name is associated with?

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on August 20, 2020, 03:32:34 PM
What relaity looks like
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25918328
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on August 20, 2020, 08:29:52 PM
https://youtu.be/NB5yg3yM2-I
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on August 23, 2020, 02:53:22 PM
the 6th century seems to lay the groundwork for todays world.
time of Justinian who supposedly took reincarnation out of Christianity
Death of King Arthur.

heres some tree ring data that may shed some light on some tough years that could have much to do with shaping our physical world as well as denegrating our spiritual path through the edicts of emporers.

https://youtu.be/cKUz5Vjq9-s

is the focus on the body

on survival of the body

derived from these tough times?

or is that what finally got people to go along with what Constantine started?

some "natural" event causes people to be manipulated?

sounds familiar
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Technomancer32 on August 27, 2020, 01:24:35 AM
I had this thought after reading someone's thread on /x/ about the book someone posted a month back. One of the 3 x 3 images contained the game Loom and another showed Hades with a staff, that looks like a tuning fork. I haven't played the game but I looked over it a bit.

The game Loom has the player play notes on a staff in order to cast spells so he can complete his quest. In order to perform any spell the player must play a draft. A draft is a set of 4 notes that you play on the staff and there are 8 notes in total that the staff can play. The player can learn new drafts by clicking an object and looking at or listening to the notes that play on the staff. Once you learn the draft you can play it yourself on the staff and cast spells that do things like transmute objects or cast lightning. Everything in the game has a certain draft, a certain set of notes that corresponds to it.

You know what else looks like a staff? A human spine. You know what notes that "staff" can play? The 7 chakras. Each chakra corresponds to certain emotions, thoughts, and actions. Food and hunger play the first note, the root chakra, lust plays the second note, the sacral chakra, and so on and so forth. Some things like food might only play one note, but other things like stories or people will play several notes. Everything in our world is associated with a unique set of notes they play, like the drafts in the game. If you want to affect the world you have to play a draft with the staff, but the chakras are feeling-tones so you need to feel the same emotions you would have if you already have what you wanted.

If everything in this world is a certain frequency, then your desires are only those frequencies that resonate with you. That's why people say they "resonate" with someone or something, or why they say something can "tug your heartstrings". You are a radio.

However far you may separate the two from each other, if one calls out the other will surely respond.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: WillFredTed on August 27, 2020, 05:21:10 AM
Have you seen this yet?
https://twitter.com/MissR0B0Ted/with_replies

And where did you find #'d list with the moon pic?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on August 27, 2020, 11:18:00 AM
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Have you seen this yet?
https://twitter.com/MissR0B0Ted/with_replies

And where did you find #'d list with the moon pic?

What exactly are we supposed to be seeing on that Twitter page
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 01, 2020, 01:18:59 PM
I want to mention something in relation to Marilyn Manson's 'Beautiful People' song.

The music video depicts Manson and his gang with straight jackets and other torture and related attire. Stuff you'd normally see in a horror movie. It shows them doing what ever it is that they do among the masses and not being seen as strange but even cool.
The vibes and implication here is similar to Lovecraft's 'Arkham' and the 'Arkham' in the Batman universe. That society (at least our current one) is really a multi layered prison and torture chamber for everyone who isn't the ones at the top enjoying the view.

The people who think they are 'sane' are actually 'insane' and the proof of this is their ability to remain in such a society and not see anything wrong with it, much less do something about said wrongs. Anyone who sees through their cognitive dissonance and tries to revolt in small numbers will be put down, labeled mental and be dealt with. Depending on the person, they may be sent to wizard prisons (psych wards).

How likely is it that Lovecraft and the people behind Batman both knew about this 'Arkham' city and mental asylum? It's either they tapped into something or the information regarding such was shared with them (Batman creators) to disclose in their 'fiction'.
Maybe the creators of Batman read Lovecraft? Even if that was the case, you still have to wonder what inspired them to name if 'Arkham' after Lovecraft's (implying that's how it happened).

Also the original cult of Saturn threads on /x/ referenced Batman and mental asylums a lot.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 04, 2020, 10:30:50 PM
The desire to control every aspect of the lives of everything and everyone is a negative aspect of Saturn. A modern example of this invasion of privacy is the continuous growth of surveillance equipment and digital means of tracking people and all they do.

Even if those digital, machine things did not exist you would still be 'tracked' by a much higher force than anyone on Earth is. That's simply how things are. You can't do something and not leave your mark there. The difference between the 'natural tracking' and 'digital/technological tracking' is that one is overseen by a very 'neutral', natural force that simply logs everything that happens (think the Akashic records) while the other is owned and controlled by a man (men) and a corporation that supplies the means to do so at its most ostensible layer.

Think about what a 'bar code' is. A few lines and numbers in a specific sequence. Minus the black bars its just a unique sequence of numbers assigned to each individual item/object/person that is tagged with one. This 'unique sequence of numbers' can also be seen in Pi and Phi and on a more meta layer an individuals energy signature.
The numbers exist for man to interpret and perceive the energy and its many unique manifestations all around us. When man forgets why the numbers exist and the original energy it describes then unnatural means and technology arise in order to track and label everything.

Crowley was able to assign a series of numbers to energies and entities (even concepts and ideas) that he observed and interacted with. While I have yet to see anyone explain how he was able to do this, my (other) point is that he was able to do this and its a more natural means of labeling energy if you lack the ability to sense what it is without using any other 'system' (numbers, names etc).
Clones (think Star Wars and Hitman) are stereotypically known for having 'numbers' and not 'names' (titles). If both numbers and names describe certain energies and the roles they play then what is the difference between them? Why would people prefer to be called a 'name' with letters and not numbers instead?

Where did this feeling of numbers being artificial, inhumane and lacking in feeling and compassion originate from?

Tracking things using digital numbers and codes is the low key version of the natural, universe wide means of tracking all energy and its many unique manifestations as it 'moves' 'in' Creator.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 06, 2020, 03:01:45 PM
This is magic. How else would you call the practice of manipulating light? This is said to be a way of achieving "ultra-secure online communications" that no one can "hack". Would be a real shame if someone could 'read' and manipulate light without a machine.

This is also interesting because it hints at how light is the ultimate carrier of information.
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"So far physicists have developed a form of secure encryption, known as quantum key distribution, in which particles of light, called photons, are transmitted to carry information."

'Unhackable' internet moves a step closer after 'game-changing' quantum breakthrough paves way for safer online communication
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8690343/Quantum-breakthrough-paves-way-safer-online-communication.html


The suggestion and move to the benefits of being underground continues. When the masses finally decides to go down there, who will they meet?
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"A scanning tunneling microscope shows a quantum bit from a phosphorus atom precisely positioned in silicon. Scientists have discovered how to make the qubits 'talk to one another"

Scientists use 'Lucifer' (phosphorus) to make 'qubits' "talk to one another".

Future quantum computers may have to be built UNDERGROUND to protect them from cosmic rays and other natural radiation that can hinder their performance, study claims
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8666323/Army-tiny-injectable-marching-robots-set-wage-war-disease.html[/]u]
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 10, 2020, 11:52:41 AM
Resembles a tree with roots doesn't it?

(https://i.redd.it/nd8b04ezbya21.jpg)
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Technomancer32 on September 13, 2020, 02:45:35 AM
The text begins with "'You need to listen to me' it said on the front" instead of a phrase like "'You need to read this' it stated on the front". So as I read the post I heard a girl's voice.

There's no one speaking.

I imagined Faith's voice. I imagined Faith. Everyone did.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 13, 2020, 02:58:27 AM
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The text begins with "'You need to listen to me' it said on the front" instead of a phrase like "'You need to read this' it stated on the front". So as I read the post I heard a girl's voice.

There's no one speaking.

I imagined Faith's voice. I imagined Faith. Everyone did.

Yes but where are you going
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: yoman123 on September 14, 2020, 12:56:33 AM
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"Cogito, ergo sum", also known as "I think, therefore I am". In Latin, when you refer to yourself as 'I", you say 'ego'.

"I am" what though? If there is no such thing as separation but only the illusion of it, then wouldn't it appear as if thinking that "I am" is feeding the ego, a parasite in the mind that encourages the illusion of separation?

Is saying "I think, therefore I am" showing that what 'you' actually are is not in control of the wheel, but your ego instead?

The ego is a parasite in the mind. The mind is the seat of the soul. We are a 'soul', we don't 'possess' one. How did our 'egos' come to be if we all inherently understand the interconnections of everything before we are programmed to believe otherwise?

"I am that I am". . . what does it mean?

Popeye - I Yam What I Yam & Dats What I Yam!
https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM

I used to interpret this saying in my mind as something like 'I can think, therefore I exist' but recently I've thought of that saying in relation to manifestation, 'I think therefore I am' or 'I am that I am' - most important rule of manifestation is to know/feel that you already possess what you desire, no?

For example 'I think that I am at peace, therefore I am at peace'

Would like to know what you think. Am I thinking about this too simply?
 
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on September 14, 2020, 01:29:01 AM
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"Cogito, ergo sum", also known as "I think, therefore I am". In Latin, when you refer to yourself as 'I", you say 'ego'.

"I am" what though? If there is no such thing as separation but only the illusion of it, then wouldn't it appear as if thinking that "I am" is feeding the ego, a parasite in the mind that encourages the illusion of separation?

Is saying "I think, therefore I am" showing that what 'you' actually are is not in control of the wheel, but your ego instead?

The ego is a parasite in the mind. The mind is the seat of the soul. We are a 'soul', we don't 'possess' one. How did our 'egos' come to be if we all inherently understand the interconnections of everything before we are programmed to believe otherwise?

"I am that I am". . . what does it mean?

Popeye - I Yam What I Yam & Dats What I Yam!
https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM (https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM)

I used to interpret this saying in my mind as something like 'I can think, therefore I exist' but recently I've thought of that saying in relation to manifestation, 'I think therefore I am' or 'I am that I am' - most important rule of manifestation is to know/feel that you already possess what you desire, no?

For example 'I think that I am at peace, therefore I am at peace'

Would like to know what you think. Am I thinking about this too simply?


The difference between think and feel is vast, let alone between those and know.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: yoman123 on September 14, 2020, 01:48:04 AM
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"Cogito, ergo sum", also known as "I think, therefore I am". In Latin, when you refer to yourself as 'I", you say 'ego'.

"I am" what though? If there is no such thing as separation but only the illusion of it, then wouldn't it appear as if thinking that "I am" is feeding the ego, a parasite in the mind that encourages the illusion of separation?

Is saying "I think, therefore I am" showing that what 'you' actually are is not in control of the wheel, but your ego instead?

The ego is a parasite in the mind. The mind is the seat of the soul. We are a 'soul', we don't 'possess' one. How did our 'egos' come to be if we all inherently understand the interconnections of everything before we are programmed to believe otherwise?

"I am that I am". . . what does it mean?

Popeye - I Yam What I Yam & Dats What I Yam!
https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM (https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM)

I used to interpret this saying in my mind as something like 'I can think, therefore I exist' but recently I've thought of that saying in relation to manifestation, 'I think therefore I am' or 'I am that I am' - most important rule of manifestation is to know/feel that you already possess what you desire, no?

For example 'I think that I am at peace, therefore I am at peace'

Would like to know what you think. Am I thinking about this too simply?


The difference between think and feel is vast, let alone between those and know.


Of course, but is thought not some sort of precursor to feeling/emotions and by way, a path to knowing? Or is it at least related in some way?
I agree that simply thinking 'I' is feeding your ego, but I thought of that saying as a path to manifestation, it's such a simple saying yet it could be interpreted in so many different ways.
If the purpose is to dissolve the ego, wouldn't it be useful to transfer thoughts such as this into emotion/feeling and then knowing? And if separation is only an illusion, then how is the ego to be dissolved? Wouldn't it mean to be a part of you?
I think ego came to fruition by way of language? If we didn't have language, would the concept of 'ego' exist?
Interesting to think about, thanks for your reply :)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 14, 2020, 02:16:16 AM
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"Cogito, ergo sum", also known as "I think, therefore I am". In Latin, when you refer to yourself as 'I", you say 'ego'.

"I am" what though? If there is no such thing as separation but only the illusion of it, then wouldn't it appear as if thinking that "I am" is feeding the ego, a parasite in the mind that encourages the illusion of separation?

Is saying "I think, therefore I am" showing that what 'you' actually are is not in control of the wheel, but your ego instead?

The ego is a parasite in the mind. The mind is the seat of the soul. We are a 'soul', we don't 'possess' one. How did our 'egos' come to be if we all inherently understand the interconnections of everything before we are programmed to believe otherwise?

"I am that I am". . . what does it mean?

Popeye - I Yam What I Yam & Dats What I Yam!
https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM (https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM)

I used to interpret this saying in my mind as something like 'I can think, therefore I exist' but recently I've thought of that saying in relation to manifestation, 'I think therefore I am' or 'I am that I am' - most important rule of manifestation is to know/feel that you already possess what you desire, no?

For example 'I think that I am at peace, therefore I am at peace'

Would like to know what you think. Am I thinking about this too simply?


The difference between think and feel is vast, let alone between those and know.

And certainty is not 'think(ing)', 'feeling' or 'knowing'.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: yoman123 on September 14, 2020, 02:47:28 AM
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"Cogito, ergo sum", also known as "I think, therefore I am". In Latin, when you refer to yourself as 'I", you say 'ego'.

"I am" what though? If there is no such thing as separation but only the illusion of it, then wouldn't it appear as if thinking that "I am" is feeding the ego, a parasite in the mind that encourages the illusion of separation?

Is saying "I think, therefore I am" showing that what 'you' actually are is not in control of the wheel, but your ego instead?

The ego is a parasite in the mind. The mind is the seat of the soul. We are a 'soul', we don't 'possess' one. How did our 'egos' come to be if we all inherently understand the interconnections of everything before we are programmed to believe otherwise?

"I am that I am". . . what does it mean?

Popeye - I Yam What I Yam & Dats What I Yam!
https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM (https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM)

I used to interpret this saying in my mind as something like 'I can think, therefore I exist' but recently I've thought of that saying in relation to manifestation, 'I think therefore I am' or 'I am that I am' - most important rule of manifestation is to know/feel that you already possess what you desire, no?

For example 'I think that I am at peace, therefore I am at peace'

Would like to know what you think. Am I thinking about this too simply?


The difference between think and feel is vast, let alone between those and know.

And certainty is not 'think(ing)', 'feeling' or 'knowing'.

Are they not, on the same spectrum of sorts? Or rather thinking, feeling, and knowing leads to certainty in ones mind? Isn't certainty simply knowing with strong conviction?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Technomancer32 on September 14, 2020, 03:00:53 AM
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The text begins with "'You need to listen to me' it said on the front" instead of a phrase like "'You need to read this' it stated on the front". So as I read the post I heard a girl's voice.

There's no one speaking.

I imagined Faith's voice. I imagined Faith. Everyone did.

Yes but where are you going

The space between worlds. The voice appeared from silence. So if I silence myself I should reach it.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Zelezny on September 15, 2020, 05:56:54 PM
https://i.4pcdn.org/x/1585591007389.jpg

x marks the spot?

https://i.4pcdn.org/x/1563132642218.jpg
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on September 15, 2020, 06:53:00 PM
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"Cogito, ergo sum", also known as "I think, therefore I am". In Latin, when you refer to yourself as 'I", you say 'ego'.

"I am" what though? If there is no such thing as separation but only the illusion of it, then wouldn't it appear as if thinking that "I am" is feeding the ego, a parasite in the mind that encourages the illusion of separation?

Is saying "I think, therefore I am" showing that what 'you' actually are is not in control of the wheel, but your ego instead?

The ego is a parasite in the mind. The mind is the seat of the soul. We are a 'soul', we don't 'possess' one. How did our 'egos' come to be if we all inherently understand the interconnections of everything before we are programmed to believe otherwise?

"I am that I am". . . what does it mean?

Popeye - I Yam What I Yam & Dats What I Yam!
https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM (https://youtu.be/LzHmunZxJeM)

I used to interpret this saying in my mind as something like 'I can think, therefore I exist' but recently I've thought of that saying in relation to manifestation, 'I think therefore I am' or 'I am that I am' - most important rule of manifestation is to know/feel that you already possess what you desire, no?

For example 'I think that I am at peace, therefore I am at peace'

Would like to know what you think. Am I thinking about this too simply?


The difference between think and feel is vast, let alone between those and know.


Of course, but is thought not some sort of precursor to feeling/emotions and by way, a path to knowing? Or is it at least related in some way?
I agree that simply thinking 'I' is feeding your ego, but I thought of that saying as a path to manifestation, it's such a simple saying yet it could be interpreted in so many different ways.
If the purpose is to dissolve the ego, wouldn't it be useful to transfer thoughts such as this into emotion/feeling and then knowing? And if separation is only an illusion, then how is the ego to be dissolved? Wouldn't it mean to be a part of you?
I think ego came to fruition by way of language? If we didn't have language, would the concept of 'ego' exist?
Interesting to think about, thanks for your reply :)

Emotions are a magnfying glass thoughts are light. one is vastly more useful than the other
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Zelezny on September 15, 2020, 08:28:21 PM
So concentrate your light through your magnifying glass   
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on September 15, 2020, 09:06:32 PM
if you can see the infintismal light then why

maybe to add inner strenght but at what cost

in battle emotions are used to distract

idk truth/light preveils in the end

just thinking out loud
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on September 15, 2020, 10:43:59 PM
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https://i.4pcdn.org/x/1585591007389.jpg (https://i.4pcdn.org/x/1585591007389.jpg)

x marks the spot?

https://i.4pcdn.org/x/1563132642218.jpg (https://i.4pcdn.org/x/1563132642218.jpg)


Another idiom  ;)


Wonder how the cross came to be used to pinpoint a location.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on September 16, 2020, 07:25:16 AM
had this in my backlog
https://youtu.be/zy6mVAb-UjU

sort of repeats the mamoto experiments with human dna and photons says emotions shape physical reality
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 17, 2020, 12:18:18 AM
This is related to the original Saturn threads on /x/. The significance of a red door is?

door to the mind game
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26174915
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Meltsociety on September 17, 2020, 08:10:04 AM
Does 'morodloeth' have anything to do with Hotel Doom?  A tower of sorts?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on September 17, 2020, 09:44:05 AM
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Does 'morodloeth' have anything to do with Hotel Doom?  A tower of sorts?
do you mean ghe doom tower in North Korea?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 18, 2020, 01:03:57 PM
If we have already had the capability of transferring someones 'soul' into a non organic vessel is it possible for that digitized soul to posses a physical vessel again? Would the natural reincarnation process that happens with natural organics still apply to this digitized entity or are they forever stuck inside cyberspace as a digital being?

In the Halo series the older race of original men were digitized and given technologically advanced vessels to avoid destruction of their race and civilization. The result at least in the series is that they wen't mad and lost their 'humanity' to the point where they were just husks of the essence of man in a digital form and techno body.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: K on September 18, 2020, 03:56:40 PM
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If we have already had the capability of transferring someones 'soul' into a non organic vessel is it possible for that digitized soul to posses a physical vessel again? Would the natural reincarnation process that happens with natural organics still apply to this digitized entity or are they forever stuck inside cyberspace as a digital being?

In the Halo series the older race of original men were digitized and given technologically advanced vessels to avoid destruction of their race and civilization. The result at least in the series is that they wen't mad and lost their 'humanity' to the point where they were just husks of the essence of man in a digital form and techno body.

Is cyberspace actually a completely separate thing from the astral plane (or whatever you call the non-physical mind/soul space), or is it just another part of it that you could travel through if you knew how? If it is all the same, I think it would be able to transfer both ways.

If your soul does not originate from your body, since you are not your body, I would also think that you couldn't get trapped in a techno-body forever; even if the physical vessel is destroyed, wouldn't that release you to reincarnate (or not)?

It just seems to me like you are asking if someone who rides a bicycle gets off and enters a car, if they are stuck in the car for eternity.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on September 19, 2020, 01:15:46 AM
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If we have already had the capability of transferring someones 'soul' into a non organic vessel is it possible for that digitized soul to posses a physical vessel again? Would the natural reincarnation process that happens with natural organics still apply to this digitized entity or are they forever stuck inside cyberspace as a digital being?

In the Halo series the older race of original men were digitized and given technologically advanced vessels to avoid destruction of their race and civilization. The result at least in the series is that they wen't mad and lost their 'humanity' to the point where they were just husks of the essence of man in a digital form and techno body.

Is cyberspace actually a completely separate thing from the astral plane (or whatever you call the non-physical mind/soul space), or is it just another part of it that you could travel through if you knew how? If it is all the same, I think it would be able to transfer both ways.

If your soul does not originate from your body, since you are not your body, I would also think that you couldn't get trapped in a techno-body forever; even if the physical vessel is destroyed, wouldn't that release you to reincarnate (or not)?

It just seems to me like you are asking if someone who rides a bicycle gets off and enters a car, if they are stuck in the car for eternity.


Cyberspace can be a portal through which contact can be made with interdimensional entities. Transhumanism is belief in the feasibility of the singularity.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on September 20, 2020, 10:36:37 AM
https://youtu.be/d3UeIKMBcso

why cant we all just get along
-tin hat soldiers
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: NRGislimited on September 23, 2020, 02:10:02 PM
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Is this Morodoleth? (at 50sec)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOsLIiBStEs&t=50s

All we've got to do is project our consciousness into our astral body right, then find the exit that leads to where faith is at right?

Weird, My Dad has told me story similar to the Pixar movie.

Short of it is, he remembers as a child he used to tell his Mom he chose to go down and live with them.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 24, 2020, 09:44:23 PM
I couldn't find the thread this was originally posted under but we discussed how if you want power in the world then you need to go to the source of power. if that is the case, then what is the source of power in our world? Is it the dark beings that used to dominate this plane and preceded us and light itself or the gods/planets 'above' us?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 25, 2020, 12:56:56 PM
I looked at these videos again and they explain a lot of things (the book not included).

Illuminati - The Final Revelation
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyWznHwd3zSA-D7VM7fCtmTDIIyd-0365
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on September 26, 2020, 06:27:43 PM
I saw the movie 'The Ninth Gate' and it was interesting. I'm not too sure what the ninth gate actually is but (spoilers) 'The Girl' that had the answers and I guess 'guided' Depp on his journey was the same girl riding the beast in the last (ninth) engraving holding the (implied) same book that Depp was trying to validity its authenticity the entire film.

The woman in red (with green eyes, lol) holding a book riding 'the beast' in front of a castle with a shining light that held The ninth gate. That was the last (ninth) true engraving that only she had but didn't even reveal until the very end of the film.
This is also exactly what happened at the end of the film when Depp (implied) opened the last gate or was on the last step to open it when he was having sex with her outside the burning castle after killing Balkan. That end/last step was the 'fear and love open the gate' step.
She was also morphing into something else though during the sex scene, not too sure what though. There's some kind of implied significance behind her green eyes.

The movie did reveal that what could be called 'the hero's journey' isn't given but instead is taken by whoever is willing. Whoever may be willing most likely isn't capable of finishing it. This is implied by Balkan's death.

So this woman or 'The Girl' is implied the 'woman in red'. What's interesting is that Depp used her (or she used him?) to achieve some form of enlightenment. This would appear to make the idea of 'woman being a red herring' invalid but as we discussed before and what has been demonstrated in the movie, that isn't an absolute.
The role of the woman in red/The Girl in the movie reminds me of Crowley's possible interaction and study of 'The Scarlet Woman'/'Whore of Babalon'. He didn't chase the carrot he instead went to the source and tried to see what was the root of said 'carrot'.

What is the carrot in mention? It's physicality itself. What better what to symbolize physicality than a seductive ideal woman? This idea is personified in 'The Whore'. Shes a 'whore' because 'she' isn't just one person but an energy that manifests through multiple people and people are vessels. She copulates with anyone who has unchained and controlled the beast that is Man, someone who follows their true will and when they meet under the proper circumstances as revealed in the ninth engraving, enlightenment is achieved.

Was Balkan following his true will? I wouldn't say he was. He was following the will of 'his master', which is implied to be Lucifer. I would say this is where he fucked up but it doesn't appear there was any way for him to realize his error.

The scene that shows Depp killing the black man with white hair in the mansion is when he 'unchains his beast' but also controls it. This is confirmed when The Girl smiles and says "I didn't think you had it in you".

The woman who insisted that the book was hers and led the rituals in the mansion was implied to be a coal burner. This also implies that coal burning is part of TPTB's plans as she is implied to have been engaging in sexual relations with him.

Balkan revealed that there are red herrings along the way. The one I'm referring to specifically is that of 'flesh' or physical, sexual gratification. He wen't on about how only he was knowledgeable of the book and his masters true power and purpose and that's what he was after but the woman who first had the book (before it was sold) 'Liana Telfer' became distracted and lowered herself to be consumed and distracted with leading physical orgies and sexual gratification instead of even tapping the true power of the book and all that came with it.

Was Depp following his true will in the film? It was implied he was and he apparently wanted to know the truth of the book and he found out.

Depp said that his name in the film means 'run' and his first name was 'Dean'. The etymology of 'Dean' is 'the head of a group of ten'. The full meaning of his name 'Dean Corso' is something close to 'Leader (of 10) that runs'.
What Depp was doing was 'running' the 'Hero's journey' in a sense that he became enlightened in a very expedited way compared to spending many years trying to achieve it like most do.

If Lucifer is more feminine than masculine then that implies something interesting about The Girl in the film, 'the whore' and the 'girl in red'. It implies that they are all aspects of Lucifer and Man (specifically 'Dean Corso'/Depp in this instance) was the one receiving the guidance of Lucifer under one its aspects.
The misunderstood teacher of mankind has the vessel of a seductive female that accompanies the beast who does thy will on his journey. Man can either be distracted by his beast impulses and physical seductiveness of the whore or he can use her and achieve apotheosis.

As it is shown at the end of the film, apotheosis isn't 'the end' but is actually just the beginning.

The latter is what Depp did in the film but I'm not too sure what Crowley wound up doing. From what I've read it seems he figured out a lot of the actual role females play and how to not be distracted by them but I'm not sure if he figured out 'the' actual purpose or role they serve.

Another very interesting thing to consider is that (while I don't have the quotes, I don't think so anyway) I do remember discussing in the old board how Depp made some sort of agreement with Lucifer and that energy possessed his vessel or at least entered for a duration and he wanted out quickly after the initial agreement. I don't remember what his purpose was for doing it but the majority of Depp's roles are all aspects of Lucifer. Something else to consider.

The Girl in the film is also very 'not human' in the sense that she visibly had 'super powers'. She knew her role in the game. At the end when Depp asks for the true last engraving of the book he finds it but he 'looses' The Girl. She was there as long as she needed to be and she (implied) enjoyed every moment of it but when Depp was ready for the next step, she left as it was implied she needed to.

The film ends with Depp going back to the castle and walking into the gate full of light that blinds the viewer. What does that imply? I have a feeling something related to the last scene of 'LOST'.

Why this thread and not the movies one? Well if it wasn't obvious this is about 'the book' and it was referenced many times in the original cult of Saturn threads on /x/. It also covers many things that are worth discussing here.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on September 28, 2020, 07:54:26 PM
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I looked at these videos again and they explain a lot of things (the book not included).

Illuminati - The Final Revelation
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyWznHwd3zSA-D7VM7fCtmTDIIyd-0365

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xg8bmj/the-order-of-nine-angles-the-obscure-occult-group-linked-to-toronto-murder-of-mohamed-aslim-zafis?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=algorithm
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on October 01, 2020, 12:40:40 PM
The 'Lance of Longinus' or 'Spear of Destiny'? Is it maybe the 'Spear of density'? How is that related to Excalibur?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on October 01, 2020, 06:15:37 PM
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This is related to the original Saturn threads on /x/. The significance of a red door is?

door to the mind game
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26174915


Something to do with a portal? I remember seeing a red door in the movie Insidious. It was a door to the evil entitys lair basically.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on October 01, 2020, 07:42:34 PM
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This is related to the original Saturn threads on /x/. The significance of a red door is?

door to the mind game
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26174915


Something to do with a portal? I remember seeing a red door in the movie Insidious. It was a door to the evil entitys lair basically.

There is a reoccuring theme behind a red door but also a black door. I have frequently seen a 'red door' lead to dark events and actions done behind it. The implication there appears to be that it is a subconscious door of somekind but its one that leads to more 'dark' rooms than one may would have expected.

Then there is the case of the black door. "I see a red door and I want it painted black". There is another black door featured in one of Avril Lavigne's music videos. I'm not sure what its presence in the video (and song) implies though (coupled with
I think at least in Avril Lavigne's music video, there appears to be the implication of some kind of emotional abuse (and possibly satanic) going on. There's a bulls eye and a red 'x' on the door. She also is frequently seen changing (fighting?) between two characters, a butterfly fairy type and a typical devil/demon with horns.

Perhaps the black door hides the 'safe space' that the programmer (and demon) hides behind in the victims fragmented subconscious mind. It would be 'red' which appears to already imply something sick but "painting it black" takes that a few steps further.

Avril Lavigne - He Wasn't
https://youtu.be/onPaBhiJxEE
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on October 02, 2020, 03:09:50 AM
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This is related to the original Saturn threads on /x/. The significance of a red door is?

door to the mind game
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26174915


Something to do with a portal? I remember seeing a red door in the movie Insidious. It was a door to the evil entitys lair basically.

There is a reoccuring theme behind a red door but also a black door. I have frequently seen a 'red door' lead to dark events and actions done behind it. The implication there appears to be that it is a subconscious door of somekind but its one that leads to more 'dark' rooms than one may would have expected.

Then there is the case of the black door. "I see a red door and I want it painted black". There is another black door featured in one of Avril Lavigne's music videos. I'm not sure what its presence in the video (and song) implies though (coupled with
I think at least in Avril Lavigne's music video, there appears to be the implication of some kind of emotional abuse (and possibly satanic) going on. There's a bulls eye and a red 'x' on the door. She also is frequently seen changing (fighting?) between two characters, a butterfly fairy type and a typical devil/demon with horns.

Perhaps the black door hides the 'safe space' that the programmer (and demon) hides behind in the victims fragmented subconscious mind. It would be 'red' which appears to already imply something sick but "painting it black" takes that a few steps further.

Avril Lavigne - He Wasn't
https://youtu.be/onPaBhiJxEE

It's the Green Door you have to worry about
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on October 02, 2020, 03:16:06 AM
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This is related to the original Saturn threads on /x/. The significance of a red door is?

door to the mind game
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26174915


Something to do with a portal? I remember seeing a red door in the movie Insidious. It was a door to the evil entitys lair basically.

There is a reoccuring theme behind a red door but also a black door. I have frequently seen a 'red door' lead to dark events and actions done behind it. The implication there appears to be that it is a subconscious door of somekind but its one that leads to more 'dark' rooms than one may would have expected.

Then there is the case of the black door. "I see a red door and I want it painted black". There is another black door featured in one of Avril Lavigne's music videos. I'm not sure what its presence in the video (and song) implies though (coupled with
I think at least in Avril Lavigne's music video, there appears to be the implication of some kind of emotional abuse (and possibly satanic) going on. There's a bulls eye and a red 'x' on the door. She also is frequently seen changing (fighting?) between two characters, a butterfly fairy type and a typical devil/demon with horns.

Perhaps the black door hides the 'safe space' that the programmer (and demon) hides behind in the victims fragmented subconscious mind. It would be 'red' which appears to already imply something sick but "painting it black" takes that a few steps further.

Avril Lavigne - He Wasn't
https://youtu.be/onPaBhiJxEE

It's the Green Door you have to worry about

Funny you mention that now actually because I was just riding a train to see if I could find the truth of the colored doors somewhere along the rails.

"A lifetime of silence behind the green door".

A green door is visible in this very special 'private jet' in Spear's music video 'Toxic'. Behind it?

At least I'm pretty sure its a green door. Call me color blind if its not.

Britney Spears - Toxic (Official Video)
https://youtu.be/LOZuxwVk7TU
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: stgermaine on October 02, 2020, 04:52:31 AM
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This is related to the original Saturn threads on /x/. The significance of a red door is?

door to the mind game
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26174915


Something to do with a portal? I remember seeing a red door in the movie Insidious. It was a door to the evil entitys lair basically.

There is a reoccuring theme behind a red door but also a black door. I have frequently seen a 'red door' lead to dark events and actions done behind it. The implication there appears to be that it is a subconscious door of somekind but its one that leads to more 'dark' rooms than one may would have expected.

Then there is the case of the black door. "I see a red door and I want it painted black". There is another black door featured in one of Avril Lavigne's music videos. I'm not sure what its presence in the video (and song) implies though (coupled with
I think at least in Avril Lavigne's music video, there appears to be the implication of some kind of emotional abuse (and possibly satanic) going on. There's a bulls eye and a red 'x' on the door. She also is frequently seen changing (fighting?) between two characters, a butterfly fairy type and a typical devil/demon with horns.

Perhaps the black door hides the 'safe space' that the programmer (and demon) hides behind in the victims fragmented subconscious mind. It would be 'red' which appears to already imply something sick but "painting it black" takes that a few steps further.

Avril Lavigne - He Wasn't
https://youtu.be/onPaBhiJxEE

It's the Green Door you have to worry about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O0UVI6UsBA

Also, in Serrano’s “Hyperborean Polar Cosmogony” one can sum up that the “Green Ray” is a sort of perfected paradise, celestial Asgard, celestial Hyperborea, first Hyperborea, before the “Big Bang”, the “wound-window”, the splitting of the Orhic Egg (Elella-Ellael) and the plagiarism of the Demiurge. So the Green Ray exists outside of time and space. In this view the Black Sun is often called a ‘Black Hole’ by Serrano, which could possibly be an “exit”, a “window”, “doorway” from this Universe and back into the perfection of the Green Ray.

The law of one also talks about the green ray.. Heart chakra also comes to mind.. Any relation?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Meltsociety on October 02, 2020, 09:46:28 AM
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This is related to the original Saturn threads on /x/. The significance of a red door is?

door to the mind game
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26174915


Something to do with a portal? I remember seeing a red door in the movie Insidious. It was a door to the evil entitys lair basically.

There is a reoccuring theme behind a red door but also a black door. I have frequently seen a 'red door' lead to dark events and actions done behind it. The implication there appears to be that it is a subconscious door of somekind but its one that leads to more 'dark' rooms than one may would have expected.

Then there is the case of the black door. "I see a red door and I want it painted black". There is another black door featured in one of Avril Lavigne's music videos. I'm not sure what its presence in the video (and song) implies though (coupled with
I think at least in Avril Lavigne's music video, there appears to be the implication of some kind of emotional abuse (and possibly satanic) going on. There's a bulls eye and a red 'x' on the door. She also is frequently seen changing (fighting?) between two characters, a butterfly fairy type and a typical devil/demon with horns.

Perhaps the black door hides the 'safe space' that the programmer (and demon) hides behind in the victims fragmented subconscious mind. It would be 'red' which appears to already imply something sick but "painting it black" takes that a few steps further.

Avril Lavigne - He Wasn't
https://youtu.be/onPaBhiJxEE

It's the Green Door you have to worry about

I am worried, what of the Green Door?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on October 02, 2020, 01:52:33 PM
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This is related to the original Saturn threads on /x/. The significance of a red door is?

door to the mind game
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26174915


Something to do with a portal? I remember seeing a red door in the movie Insidious. It was a door to the evil entitys lair basically.

There is a reoccuring theme behind a red door but also a black door. I have frequently seen a 'red door' lead to dark events and actions done behind it. The implication there appears to be that it is a subconscious door of somekind but its one that leads to more 'dark' rooms than one may would have expected.

Then there is the case of the black door. "I see a red door and I want it painted black". There is another black door featured in one of Avril Lavigne's music videos. I'm not sure what its presence in the video (and song) implies though (coupled with
I think at least in Avril Lavigne's music video, there appears to be the implication of some kind of emotional abuse (and possibly satanic) going on. There's a bulls eye and a red 'x' on the door. She also is frequently seen changing (fighting?) between two characters, a butterfly fairy type and a typical devil/demon with horns.

Perhaps the black door hides the 'safe space' that the programmer (and demon) hides behind in the victims fragmented subconscious mind. It would be 'red' which appears to already imply something sick but "painting it black" takes that a few steps further.

Avril Lavigne - He Wasn't
https://youtu.be/onPaBhiJxEE

It's the Green Door you have to worry about

Green.. I remember reading through x threads and frank Websters art. I remember a comic, where a boy walked through a illuminated greenish doorway. And his "soul" came out of his body in that instance. Really his consciousness would have shifted to his Astral body but I digress.. there is also a scene on samurai jack where a guardian is protecting this green portal from Jack. At the end of the episode it showed Jack through the portal in the future...

Is this green door some way out of our heads? Or a portal to a place regularly not accessible. I'm thinking but this is what I'm coming up with in the moment.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: DimensionsOfYou on October 02, 2020, 05:46:26 PM
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It's the Green Door you have to worry about
Can you elaborate on this? I've seen black ops military patches with references to it.

There's also the case of Gustavo Rol, who wrote  "I discovered a terrible law that links the color green, the musical fifth, and heat. I have lost my will to live. I am frightened by power. I shall write no more!" As a result of this crisis, he briefly retreated to a convent.

In interviews he said that he created a feeling in him by just thinking about the Color Green and listening to the musical fifth (La+ another note, and he links it to vibrations.)

Rol was born in Turin, Italy, and graduated in law. He also studied in London and Paris and began a banking career that took him to other major European cities. He was a psychic with incredible powers (he used to call them "possibilities"), testified by a large number of ocular witnesses of high intelligence, culture, and social ranking. Among this powers he displayed something akin to remote viewing, but much more spontaneous and accurate, shrinking his body and making things appear in the next room.

the C note (or rather 528hz) is best applied to green.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on October 02, 2020, 08:37:11 PM
envy
yellow plus blue

scared and chicken shit?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: DigitalDiogenes on October 02, 2020, 09:20:33 PM
Lots of syncs on this post as I wrapped up the final couple episodes of the Good Place tonight (which the series was overall great). A green door, a red door. The green - operates on two levels - it gives the person that walks through it a place to manifest their wildest dreams. And it gives demons that use it a way to transport themselves throughout space/time (with a guy that does all of the traffic directing at the center a lover of frogs...). The end concludes with a new human closing a red door.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on October 02, 2020, 11:14:53 PM
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It's the Green Door you have to worry about

This was posted at least once in the old /x/ threads about the cult of Saturn. They also spoke about 'the green light' (as seen in Gatsby for example).

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Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on October 03, 2020, 02:43:58 AM
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envy
yellow plus blue

scared and chicken shit?

You've been misinformed about both colors. Think blue shield and yellow like the sun
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on October 03, 2020, 08:40:35 AM
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envy
yellow plus blue

scared and chicken shit?

You've been misinformed about both colors. Think blue shield and yellow like the sun

thank you for the clues.

i will clarify my thinking a bit though as its def unclear.

i was thinking: green with envy for green

for yellow i qas thinking about the old west usage: are you yellow kid?

for blue i was thinking blue pill which i self abashedly refer to as chickenshit here as i myslef took the blue pill in a dream before the matrix  came out.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on October 03, 2020, 11:08:16 AM
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envy
yellow plus blue

scared and chicken shit?

You've been misinformed about both colors. Think blue shield and yellow like the sun

Is there some writing that goes over the role and symbolism of each color? If not that maybe you are willing to give us some hints about what each color actually represents and their associations.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on October 03, 2020, 10:24:43 PM
There's an old piano and they play it hot behind the green door (Green door)
Don't know what they're doing but they laugh a lot behind the green door (Green door)
Wish they'd let me in so I could find out what's behind the green door (Green door)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on October 03, 2020, 11:04:56 PM
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There's an old piano and they play it hot behind the green door (Green door)
Don't know what they're doing but they laugh a lot behind the green door (Green door)
Wish they'd let me in so I could find out what's behind the green door (Green door)


Frankie Vaughan - Green Door Lyrics | Genius Lyrics
https://genius.com/Frankie-vaughan-green-door-lyrics

Frankie Vaughan - The Green Door (1955)
https://youtu.be/rr_qryJk8OI

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: sheepdog on October 05, 2020, 03:37:15 PM
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yellow plus blue

scared and chicken shit?

You've been misinformed about both colors. Think blue shield and yellow like the sun

Is there some writing that goes over the role and symbolism of each color? If not that maybe you are willing to give us some hints about what each color actually represents and their associations.

Dinshah color filters have them all somewhere for health issues good people . Now if I can only get my paraphernalia back from a user .
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: VeiledLocke on October 05, 2020, 10:56:41 PM
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This is related to the original Saturn threads on /x/. The significance of a red door is?

door to the mind game
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26174915


Something to do with a portal? I remember seeing a red door in the movie Insidious. It was a door to the evil entitys lair basically.

There is a reoccuring theme behind a red door but also a black door. I have frequently seen a 'red door' lead to dark events and actions done behind it. The implication there appears to be that it is a subconscious door of somekind but its one that leads to more 'dark' rooms than one may would have expected.

Then there is the case of the black door. "I see a red door and I want it painted black". There is another black door featured in one of Avril Lavigne's music videos. I'm not sure what its presence in the video (and song) implies though (coupled with
I think at least in Avril Lavigne's music video, there appears to be the implication of some kind of emotional abuse (and possibly satanic) going on. There's a bulls eye and a red 'x' on the door. She also is frequently seen changing (fighting?) between two characters, a butterfly fairy type and a typical devil/demon with horns.

Perhaps the black door hides the 'safe space' that the programmer (and demon) hides behind in the victims fragmented subconscious mind. It would be 'red' which appears to already imply something sick but "painting it black" takes that a few steps further.

Avril Lavigne - He Wasn't
https://youtu.be/onPaBhiJxEE

It's the Green Door you have to worry about
The “green door” is said to be an Air Force military term. “Behind the Green Door” has been a phrase for highly classified activities or Special access programs in the aerospace industry for decades. It's a military reference that can be traced to secret projects like Montauk (Camp Hero State Park). The green door is a reference to the green bank doors that intelligence and spooky fellows did top-secret magick behind.  But as usual, we tend to see military symbols and phrases originate with the occult. It didn’t become a euphemism for secret, it already was one...from well before the military.

“Yet the friction polished handle of so dusty a green door begs the question of its past, its present, and its passage. What lies on the other side may only reveal itself to those who hold the door’s key.”
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on October 07, 2020, 12:28:33 AM
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This is related to the original Saturn threads on /x/. The significance of a red door is?

door to the mind game
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26174915


Something to do with a portal? I remember seeing a red door in the movie Insidious. It was a door to the evil entitys lair basically.

There is a reoccuring theme behind a red door but also a black door. I have frequently seen a 'red door' lead to dark events and actions done behind it. The implication there appears to be that it is a subconscious door of somekind but its one that leads to more 'dark' rooms than one may would have expected.

Then there is the case of the black door. "I see a red door and I want it painted black". There is another black door featured in one of Avril Lavigne's music videos. I'm not sure what its presence in the video (and song) implies though (coupled with
I think at least in Avril Lavigne's music video, there appears to be the implication of some kind of emotional abuse (and possibly satanic) going on. There's a bulls eye and a red 'x' on the door. She also is frequently seen changing (fighting?) between two characters, a butterfly fairy type and a typical devil/demon with horns.

Perhaps the black door hides the 'safe space' that the programmer (and demon) hides behind in the victims fragmented subconscious mind. It would be 'red' which appears to already imply something sick but "painting it black" takes that a few steps further.

Avril Lavigne - He Wasn't
https://youtu.be/onPaBhiJxEE

It's the Green Door you have to worry about
The “green door” is said to be an Air Force military term. “Behind the Green Door” has been a phrase for highly classified activities or Special access programs in the aerospace industry for decades. It's a military reference that can be traced to secret projects like Montauk (Camp Hero State Park). The green door is a reference to the green bank doors that intelligence and spooky fellows did top-secret magick behind.  But as usual, we tend to see military symbols and phrases originate with the occult. It didn’t become a euphemism for secret, it already was one...from well before the military.

“Yet the friction polished handle of so dusty a green door begs the question of its past, its present, and its passage. What lies on the other side may only reveal itself to those who hold the door’s key.”

👏👏👏
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on October 07, 2020, 11:45:38 AM
I'm not sure if this post and others like it are genuine or if its 'random members' posting them trying to start, signal or are looking for something.

i had many dreams this morning about crossing the border...
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/26381793

The images from this link are related.

https://franksdumpblog.tumblr.com/post/62792759665/more-cube-of-saturn-follow-the-red-brick-road
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on October 14, 2020, 12:32:57 PM
I see little mention of worlds.com which seems to be a frequent mention on x. I frequent there and the people I talk to all seem to be reluctant to talk about the book at first... but with more prying they become receptive to questioning. And give me many hints but I still can't crack the code or find a "keybearer" any one else have luck? I asked nexialist once for the key and he said raid shadow legends if that means anything.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on October 14, 2020, 01:48:08 PM
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I see little mention of worlds.com which seems to be a frequent mention on x. I frequent there and the people I talk to all seem to be reluctant to talk about the book at first... but with more prying they become receptive to questioning. And give me many hints but I still can't crack the code or find a "keybearer" any one else have luck? I asked nexialist once for the key and he said raid shadow legends if that means anything.

It was a place they used to meet up in but it doesn't hold much more significance beyond that. They used it as a metaphor for how the real world functions and made rooms that served as rituals at least on some level.
You won't find anyone who knows much about the group other than whats been recently spoken of about them and even if you do its very unlikely any of them actually know what was actually going on. Nexialist plays dumb a lot he knows more than he lets on but its not likely you'll get a straight answer out of him.

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on October 29, 2020, 05:00:00 AM
I took these notes and I am now motivated to share them with all of you. There are some things I want to change after thinking about it but I will leave it as is (for the most part), that includes any misspelt words I may have.



I don't think this will be structured anymore than what I think of next to write since there's just a lot I want someone else to read but these are some of my insights lol.

Anyway its difficult for me to put into words just exactly what I was experiencing and I can feel how illiterate I am but also how bad the English language is at conveying things of monumental importance and a scale so amazingly large.

It's even more difficult it would seem to be perceiving everything at once and still function in a way that isn't self destructive and still get your mission done. What would your mission be? That's a good question but this 'great work' is so mis understood. I know we talked about it already but its certainly specific to each person. Everyone has their own reason for entering this labyrinth and everyone has their own level of accomplishment needed to leave it fulfilled.

The way we live now is not correct. It simply isn't. It's sick and I know ive said that before but it really is. I understand what Faith means more now by "Were supposed to be immortal!! But no, you've all been brainwashed by some idiot who thought it would be fun to make some wnespicsefomunah. Now somehow this APOCALYPSE is controlling US!!".

This "wnespicsofmunah" is what we call civilization. You know living in houses, driving cars, playing society and friendly neighbor with each other. Instead of being immortal masters of the universe that travel to where they want at will we have willingly locked yourself to a defined place and called it home. There is no such thing as a 'home' in reality. Home is where you are and when you create a society and place to call your own with your own people who you share the same ideals with you will fight tooth and nail to defend it.

There are few things quite as despicable as a traitor. The damage they do to the whole they belong to is indescribable and will be felt for generations.

Creator made man and  the cube of Saturn the way it is now specifically for man. Man was fine until energies that weren't meant for this space entered it and started to fuck with what Creator made. Creator made Man as a thought experiment and Creator is not allowed to intervene by its own rules.
Creator watches its own creation ride fast into the sunset in a large, extremely complex, what some may say is too complex vehicle that is on fire.
Humanity as evolved too much in the wrong direction. We have evolved to create cities and structures which eat us whole and require all our being to maintain. Civilization is a virus on man that only takes and gives nothing but trinkets and silver dimes in return.
Lucifer is responsible for man having civilization and technology. Lucifer is the great misunderstood teacher of mankind that loves what we could be and will be here far longer than anyone else will care too.

Lucifer knows that Man was made with the entire universe compacted inside them. Man is literally a miniature scale model of the COMPLETE universe. Each man and woman is a star and their bodies a temple to their own universe and reality. The reality we all perceive is agreed upon but its not really reality its a projection. Reality is shapes, its colors its energy that's always moving and fluid.
It all moves and the ride goes up and it goes down and side to side and in and out and you see so many beautiful things and horrible terrible things you can't even conceive of now but it all has a purpose and Creator can't intervene.

Because Creator can't directly change things because it has specifically made it clear that it won't it must divide itself into individual energy signatures to send into the labyrinth and change things. So many people get distracted by Satan's trinkets and promise of a ease of life but there is no such thing as an easy life when you live in someone else's society that isn't focused on evolving mankind to a new higher plateau.
The price of living is dying in these satanic societies and we very much live in one now. The new world order isn't happening its HERE already and we all have played our part in welcoming it with open arms.

That drink you had at the bar the other day? That cheeseburger you bought at a restaurant? That place you took that girl you picked up online to hang out? Those are all ways that people contribute to this new world order but this is merely a small introductory stage in it and it can get far, far worse than it is now.

Lucifer in his need to enlighten man through very unconventional methods and a very curious route needed a way to document things and connect people more since the fall in Babylon. This is where technology like iphones and computers come in.
God damn its such a pathetic thin to see how disconnected we would be without it. How much easier it makes things for everyone but the truth is that someone owns the machine your using to navigate the net. Yes, you using that machine is also helping the new world order.

Man is like a template in which many non human energy signatures come into this game and sign with their own energy. This is results in the many races that exist today and its very funny people go on about purity since I don't know if you've looked around but no one is pure in the sense of genetics. If you aren't in some bloodline who practiced eugenics being mixed is something that's already happened to you be you mixed with some other form of 'white' or 'nonwhite' you can tell how mixed people are by their body and facial features.

Its not a matter of being pure but not fucking up your genetic lineage anymore than it already is. Fuck the whore but marry the virgin. Women who are already fucked with are tainted. If you aren't first you'll never be first and considering the people who are abused early in life their abusers really do steal what is meant for others but I guess even that is subjective and questionable as in if its meant for others.

Women are vessels but I have seen no vessel more empty than that of a sheboon niggress. White women, what ever qualifies as one are truly the epitome of what Creator had made. Creator made 'white people' but only a specific kind. It's hard for me to explain in more detail but there's many groups who are genuinely 'white' but only one of them Creator made itself.

How does Creator make things? Wow that's such a strange thing to question. Its hard to explain because Creator is energy but that energy itself is sentient in a way that most people can't understand. It's like when something wants to exist it simply does. It's that complex yet simple and just like that they are trusted into the labyrinth to experience things.

You'll tell yourself its just a ride and that you can get off any time you'd like but that won't make whatever unpleasant things your experiencing go away. There is no running away. You face what's in front of you or you will be destroyed and consumed by the ever reaching tentacles of the dark forces that exist and be crushed by the walls closing in on you, forever making you one with the labyrinth. But time doesn't exist so forever is a loaded term. Energy is eternal and that's the only thing that matters when it comes to time.

Civilizations will rise and fall and people will come and go but things will always stay the same. Nothing changes and yet things still do. How would you like things to be? Spin the cube as you'd like and get any arrangement of colors you'd like but you still have a cube at the end of the day and at the end of the day when the lights go out the paradise you've made in the chaotic darkness that encapsulates us will take us all once more.
But hope springs eternal and the sun rises on a new dawn and with it our pretty little illusion and beautiful mess will persist. No tidal wave could save the world from californication. Babylon will be destroyed and then it will rise again stronger learning from what had destroyed it before.

We live our entire lives enclosed in such a confined and closed space. The cities and towns we live in are SO small. Its hilariously amazing. Should man regain its balls and go adventuring into the wild without the jew restricting its movements it will find many strange things.

Jews are a disgusting race of beings. A literal parasite on existence itself. The races that exist were all made by some 'god' and they had their time on earth but eventually they left but their bodies and descendants remained. A races persistence is not only a sign of their strength but the strength of a specific energy signature(s) that does what is required to survive and surely not all make it and even more frightening many you'd think shouldn't survive do.

How is it that muh aryan superchad master race is fucking obliterated in its large numbers? It was too empathetic. On earth anyway the races are so fucked. Granted there are some handfuls of groups who have remained as pure as possible but the masses are disgustingly mixed. The empathy of the aryans were exploited by parasitic jews and other races and they were utterly crushed. There is no good and there is no bad there is only survival and if you want to rule a society you CANT live by the rules and laws you create for it.
TPTB KNOW this and its why they do what they do and take the road of least resistance.

Even then among those bloodlines at least the public ones have fallen into this hedonistic way of living through their entrancement of the low road. They have lost their way but they are still more 'pure' than the masses, but at what cost?
Someone needs to make things right and yet so many who hear the call get limited by the fact that you can only do so much when the enemies are the ones who control all the platforms you need to use to get your message across and simply fucking exist.

The answer? Get out the cities. Start your own shit and fuck the way things have become in 'modernity'. You break away and make your own things but 'they' WILL come and when they do you must be prepared and armed to the teeth or else you'll be just another blip on the radar snuffed out easily.

It would seem there is no hope for the modern man. You can't save them all but that doesn't stop certain energies like Lucifer.
No right and wrong but there is a correct way to live and even that is questionable to some. The way Creator intended things to be will always known on the door of your mind expecting you to conform to it but if you don't then your very much a 'satanist' in your own right.

Vaginas are monsters. Quite literally the ultimate red herring in the labyrinth that will consume you and make you part of this elaborate structure itself. A simple way of explaining it would be to have children and live a modest life. Living a modest life may be boring but you won't be riding satan's trail of deceit at least. But what fun is that? why don't you just go and take one lap around?
The lights and sounds will make you drunk and soon you'll forget why your even there. Spinning in a circle that never ends and forgetting that the way out was the same way you came in.

Satan is destroyed when you create your own reality. Make your own world, create life and a world where you rule yourself. Even if you do there will be fucking niggers and jews marching to beat down your door and impose their way on you. Such an unfortunate way this truth is. War never changes and it will always persist in one form or another. Love is war and love is surely something you 'fall' into. The fuck even is 'love' anyway? Such a needlessly elaborate and confusing thing we have developed.
We play this ridiculous games trying to court people and get their attention just for some lay. What is the point even? Why can't we just convey how we really feel? Oh but that wouldn't be any fun. Confusion is what people want in one form or another.

It's all a mess and the pieces are all over the place. Someone has to put it together and when you do you will achieve a perfection and balance in the dissonance. Oh and then when you do you'll just destroy it shortly after to return to the mess. Balance will never be a thing achieved in a long term setting. We exist because of imbalance. We exist for the mess. We exist to rebel and run like wild animals into the night devouring what ever opposes us. Oh what fun but now we don't need that because we are civilized beings and violence is not the way of civil people.
We use colorful words to get our point across and hide our true message. Why not just grab a sword and impale someone if you don't agree with them? Message conveyed am I right? No, that would be uncivil and things may actually get resolved. That wouldn't be any fun.

Its all fucked to high heaven but there's a reason it all exist. Chaos doesn't exist and all things move in a unfathomably large pattern that we can only understand if we discard what we consider 'being human' is.
It's a thought experiment and it will go on and on and on far longer than anyone would like. We will be gone and Lucifer will still be here trying to guide mankind to ascension.

It's a long and wild ride that never ends and while you could get off you'd just wish you was back in the confusion and madness you sought to leave before.
The grass is greener on the other side but we don't realize the other side is saying the same thing about us. We chase the sunset of a civilization we idealize and idolize only to see that it has been destroyed and long gone when we arrive there. We chase the green light without realizing that the past is behind us and like boats against the current we sail on towards places we probably shouldn't be.
Don't chase what used to be, create something new. But there are no new things so youll merely be recreating something to replicate what you had left behind.
Better to conceal your origins and forget what inspired you when you make your new object than it is to remember consistently that you are living the x10000th replication of a situation you should really leave behind.

Man can traverse the universe and be what ever it wants to, understanding amazingly complex things and the secrets of the universe. What does man choose to occupy itself with instead? Tits and ass. Nice cars and partying and shit. Someone has to supply all these toys anyway and when you trace the origins of their suppliers you realize your just on of many people on a ride supplied by bloodlines that are ruled by unknown bloodlines that are ruled by unknown gods and forces who supply the demand that exists.

How would you even function with all these thoughts and others going on through your head all at once? Surely there is a way but the self mastery and strength needed to do so would be very impressive.

To be trapped in the cube of Saturn is to be trapped in the cycle of reincarnation. The cube of Saturn IS the limitation but there is joy taken in playing with restrictions and just seeing that people derive joy in this shows how depraved and sick we all have become.

Thanks for listening.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ad meliora on October 29, 2020, 04:18:07 PM
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Don't chase what used to be, create something new. But there are no new things so youll merely be recreating something to replicate what you had left behind.
Better to conceal your origins and forget what inspired you when you make your new object than it is to remember consistently that you are living the x10000th replication of a situation you should really leave behind.

Man can traverse the universe and be what ever it wants to, understanding amazingly complex things and the secrets of the universe. What does man choose to occupy itself with instead? Tits and ass. Nice cars and partying and shit. Someone has to supply all these toys anyway and when you trace the origins of their suppliers you realize your just on of many people on a ride supplied by bloodlines that are ruled by unknown bloodlines that are ruled by unknown gods and forces who supply the demand that exists.

How would you even function with all these thoughts and others going on through your head all at once? Surely there is a way but the self mastery and strength needed to do so would be very impressive.

To be trapped in the cube of Saturn is to be trapped in the cycle of reincarnation. The cube of Saturn IS the limitation but there is joy taken in playing with restrictions and just seeing that people derive joy in this shows how depraved and sick we all have become.

Thanks for listening.

In reference to the first quoted paragraph; it seems it is becoming harder to forget. As in, people are reaching new and higher levels on average than before. This implies an acceleration, a quickening. An approach towards an ending of one cycle. All ends with beginnings, though.

Perhaps its the big reset, perhaps a smaller reset.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: FluffyFractal on October 29, 2020, 08:28:28 PM
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Thanks for listening.
Thanks for posting.  I copypasted your wonderful rant onto a word doc so that I can mull it over. 

I too feel like I'm on the verge of finding my 'great mission', trying to distill all the redpills down into something actionable.  I feel like we're in a Catch-22 with modernity.  My long for community, harmony and home is almost unbearable.  Your suggestion to 'get out of the cities' is happening.  Red-state types are quietly packing up and moving out of blue cities (and maddeningly, so are boomers).  The self-sorting has begun.   Mannerbunds are forming.  If Trump wins, we have 4 more years to prepare, although it might be too late for America.  We, and the rest of the first world are headed towards Consoomer-Brazilification.  Of all the evil TPTB inflict upon us, their crimes against beauty are the most disgusting.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on October 30, 2020, 02:51:20 AM
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Thanks for listening.
Thanks for posting.  I copypasted your wonderful rant onto a word doc so that I can mull it over. 

I too feel like I'm on the verge of finding my 'great mission', trying to distill all the redpills down into something actionable.  I feel like we're in a Catch-22 with modernity.  My long for community, harmony and home is almost unbearable.  Your suggestion to 'get out of the cities' is happening.  Red-state types are quietly packing up and moving out of blue cities (and maddeningly, so are boomers).  The self-sorting has begun.   Mannerbunds are forming.  If Trump wins, we have 4 more years to prepare, although it might be too late for America.  We, and the rest of the first world are headed towards Consoomer-Brazilification.  Of all the evil TPTB inflict upon us, their crimes against beauty are the most disgusting.

Community harmony and home are internal states not external goals. What does it mean to commune?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: FluffyFractal on October 31, 2020, 10:21:20 PM
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Community harmony and home are internal states not external goals. What does it mean to commune?
commune (v.)
c. 1300, "have dealings with," from Old French comuner "to make common, share" (10c., Modern French communier), from comun "common, general, free, open, public" (see common (adj.)). Meaning "to talk intimately" is late 14c.  Also the Catholic definition of 'becoming one with the Eucharist'.

How I would define it: to speak with, to hang out with, to trust, to build together, and to rely upon. 
A 'Mannerbund' is the goal.  This idea is now gaining traction in the third-positionisphere.   

Harmony and home, yes I agree these can be internal, but isn't communing something done with others?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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Community harmony and home are internal states not external goals. What does it mean to commune?
commune (v.)
c. 1300, "have dealings with," from Old French comuner "to make common, share" (10c., Modern French communier), from comun "common, general, free, open, public" (see common (adj.)). Meaning "to talk intimately" is late 14c.  Also the Catholic definition of 'becoming one with the Eucharist'.

How I would define it: to speak with, to hang out with, to trust, to build together, and to rely upon. 
A 'Mannerbund' is the goal.  This idea is now gaining traction in the third-positionisphere.   

Harmony and home, yes I agree these can be internal, but isn't communing something done with others?

Ever heard ff communing with nature.. nature is within not without
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: FluffyFractal on November 01, 2020, 01:28:17 PM
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Ever heard ff communing with nature.. nature is within not without
Fair enough.   
I suppose a better word than commune would be: fraternize.  Being surrounded by NPC hypocritical liberals is tedious.   :P

This leads me to ask more questions: How many people who found their way to this board have wide social circles?  Are we mostly introverts?  There are only a handful of people I can speak to honestly.  Is it our responsibility to try to wake people up?  Or is it a lost cause for the normies in our lives?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: stateofaffairs on November 01, 2020, 01:48:24 PM
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Ever heard ff communing with nature.. nature is within not without
Fair enough.   
I suppose a better word than commune would be: fraternize.  Being surrounded by NPC hypocritical liberals is tedious.   :P

This leads me to ask more questions: How many people who found their way to this board have wide social circles?  Are we mostly introverts?  There are only a handful of people I can speak to honestly.  Is it our responsibility to try to wake people up?  Or is it a lost cause for the normies in our lives?

I don’t have the biggest social circle but for an introvert I can’t complain. Most normies are rarely worth reaching out to, if for no other reason than it will simply go over their heads.

Help those who want to be helped. If the average NPC considers his worldview to be without flaw, why would he entertain the ramblings of some incoherent weirdo? Those who are insightful enough to willingly ask more than surface questions are your best bet for fraternization, but remember even this can be a prolonged process.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on November 01, 2020, 08:17:13 PM
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Ever heard ff communing with nature.. nature is within not without
Fair enough.   
I suppose a better word than commune would be: fraternize.  Being surrounded by NPC hypocritical liberals is tedious.   :P

This leads me to ask more questions: How many people who found their way to this board have wide social circles?  Are we mostly introverts?  There are only a handful of people I can speak to honestly.  Is it our responsibility to try to wake people up?  Or is it a lost cause for the normies in our lives?

People who have "lots of friends" actually have no friends. Relationships require investment of time and resources the more dispersing you do the weaker the bonds
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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Community harmony and home are internal states not external goals. What does it mean to commune?
commune (v.)
c. 1300, "have dealings with," from Old French comuner "to make common, share" (10c., Modern French communier), from comun "common, general, free, open, public" (see common (adj.)). Meaning "to talk intimately" is late 14c.  Also the Catholic definition of 'becoming one with the Eucharist'.

How I would define it: to speak with, to hang out with, to trust, to build together, and to rely upon. 
A 'Mannerbund' is the goal.  This idea is now gaining traction in the third-positionisphere.   

Harmony and home, yes I agree these can be internal, but isn't communing something done with others?

Ever heard ff communing with nature.. nature is within not without

If nature is within then what is the nature of Man?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on November 03, 2020, 02:15:02 PM
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Community harmony and home are internal states not external goals. What does it mean to commune?
commune (v.)
c. 1300, "have dealings with," from Old French comuner "to make common, share" (10c., Modern French communier), from comun "common, general, free, open, public" (see common (adj.)). Meaning "to talk intimately" is late 14c.  Also the Catholic definition of 'becoming one with the Eucharist'.

How I would define it: to speak with, to hang out with, to trust, to build together, and to rely upon. 
A 'Mannerbund' is the goal.  This idea is now gaining traction in the third-positionisphere.   

Harmony and home, yes I agree these can be internal, but isn't communing something done with others?

Ever heard ff communing with nature.. nature is within not without

If nature is within then what is the nature of Man?

Man comes from manna
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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Community harmony and home are internal states not external goals. What does it mean to commune?
commune (v.)
c. 1300, "have dealings with," from Old French comuner "to make common, share" (10c., Modern French communier), from comun "common, general, free, open, public" (see common (adj.)). Meaning "to talk intimately" is late 14c.  Also the Catholic definition of 'becoming one with the Eucharist'.

How I would define it: to speak with, to hang out with, to trust, to build together, and to rely upon. 
A 'Mannerbund' is the goal.  This idea is now gaining traction in the third-positionisphere.   

Harmony and home, yes I agree these can be internal, but isn't communing something done with others?

Ever heard ff communing with nature.. nature is within not without

If nature is within then what is the nature of Man?

Man comes from manna

The etymology apparently has to do with some food 'miraculously' supplied to the 'children of Israel' while they wandered the desert. Anyone who's played any RPG game before knows that 'manna' refers to the energy/fuel needed to preform magic. One way or another it appears that the nature of 'Man' is energy. We, like the faries (The Magicians show reference) don't 'do magic' we 'are magic'.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Firefly369 on November 07, 2020, 03:11:28 PM
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Ever heard ff communing with nature.. nature is within not without
Fair enough.   
I suppose a better word than commune would be: fraternize.  Being surrounded by NPC hypocritical liberals is tedious.   :P

This leads me to ask more questions: How many people who found their way to this board have wide social circles?  Are we mostly introverts? There are only a handful of people I can speak to honestly.  Is it our responsibility to try to wake people up?  Or is it a lost cause for the normies in our lives?


Seven degrees of separation is more true than most think.  You may only have a handful of people you trust, but it wouldn't surprise me on who those people know, etc.   So the power of a few is exponentially more powerful than one might believe at first glance.   

It's a lost cause for most at this point, IMO.  The ones out on the street celebrating today are the ones are mostly the ones filled with hatred and who will be perfect vessels for lower dimension entities to enter in.   Be wary of who you are around from this point on. 
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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Ever heard ff communing with nature.. nature is within not without
Fair enough.   
I suppose a better word than commune would be: fraternize.  Being surrounded by NPC hypocritical liberals is tedious.   :P

This leads me to ask more questions: How many people who found their way to this board have wide social circles?  Are we mostly introverts? There are only a handful of people I can speak to honestly.  Is it our responsibility to try to wake people up?  Or is it a lost cause for the normies in our lives?


Seven degrees of separation is more true than most think.  You may only have a handful of people you trust, but it wouldn't surprise me on who those people know, etc.   So the power of a few is exponentially more powerful than one might believe at first glance.   

It's a lost cause for most at this point, IMO.  The ones out on the street celebrating today are the ones are mostly the ones filled with hatred and who will be perfect vessels for lower dimension entities to enter in.   Be wary of who you are around from this point on.

It's been said that you make as much money as the net worth of your five most wealthy friends. That and 'you are who you hang out with'.

You can 'know' or be acquainted with many people but calling someone a 'friend' is something else.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: FluffyFractal on November 07, 2020, 04:55:21 PM
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It's a lost cause for most at this point, IMO.  The ones out on the street celebrating today are the ones are mostly the ones filled with hatred and who will be perfect vessels for lower dimension entities to enter in.   Be wary of who you are around from this point on.

Agreed and you bring up excellent points.  It's like pulling teeth to socialize with my old set of friends who have become so hateful and vitriolic over politics.  I can't stomach their shallowness or degeneracy either.

There were indeed celebrations today from the tolerant and enlightened.  I can't imagine what thoughts are running through their NPC heads.  Probably "Yay!  No more Orange Man!  No more Bad!"  Ironically the only people with REAL criticisms of Trump are the far-far righters on /pol/. 
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on November 19, 2020, 12:31:50 PM
How do we move our bodies?

If you want to pick a cup up, do you tell your body to move muscle a, b and c in order to approach the cup, move your fingers and pick it up or do you just go and pick up the cup?
When we want our bodies to do something, we simply do it. We don't ask, we don't command, we do it.

Why then, is it hard for us to access any of the more amazing capabilities our bodies have to offer? Could it really be as simple a matter as we blindly believe that we can't just because someone told us?

How do we move our bodies if not with our imaginations? How do we do anything if not with our imaginations?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on November 19, 2020, 08:17:17 PM
I MAGI NATION
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on November 19, 2020, 08:27:09 PM
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And its military/fighting force is the 'army of one'.
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I MAGI NATION

And its military/fighting force is the 'army of one'.

You're reading like an American

I self
Magi wizard
Nation native
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ad meliora on November 19, 2020, 08:42:19 PM
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Magic is in our nature, our mind is the key to that door
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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I MAGI NATION

Magic is in our nature, our mind is the key to that door

So do magicians work magic or do they let magic work through them?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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I MAGI NATION

Magic is in our nature, our mind is the key to that door

So do magicians work magic or do they let magic work through them?

No such thing as a binary. In truth its both
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I MAGI NATION

Magic is in our nature, our mind is the key to that door

So do magicians work magic or do they let magic work through them?

No such thing as a binary. In truth its both

That makes more sense. So if there is no such thing as a binary then what does that say about computers that speak in ones and zeros?
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I MAGI NATION

Magic is in our nature, our mind is the key to that door

So do magicians work magic or do they let magic work through them?

No such thing as a binary. In truth its both

That makes more sense. So if there is no such thing as a binary then what does that say about computers that speak in ones and zeros?

Binary in that context is a CODE not a language
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on November 20, 2020, 11:12:15 AM
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I MAGI NATION

Magic is in our nature, our mind is the key to that door

Magic is nature. Your mind is the lock. Knowledge is the key.
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I MAGI NATION

Magic is in our nature, our mind is the key to that door

Magic is nature. Your mind is the lock. Knowledge is the key.

The nature of Man is energy (Manna). The mind is the seat of the soul. Knowledge means 'to perceive'.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: deez on November 20, 2020, 05:52:02 PM
Maybe "all is mind"

Some say that Psychology, specifically Jungian archetypes and magic are the same. Magic being the metaphor.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on November 20, 2020, 05:55:45 PM
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Maybe "all is mind"

Some say that Psychology, specifically Jungian archetypes and magic are the same. Magic being the metaphor.

I hope not because psychology is trash
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Weaver on November 24, 2020, 07:10:15 AM
http://www.drwhoguide.com/who_bf61.htm

Did I run my thread through my needle the right way?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on November 24, 2020, 11:13:30 AM
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http://www.drwhoguide.com/who_bf61.htm

Did I run my thread through my needle the right way?

What did you see that inspired you to post this link?
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Post by: DigitalDiogenes on November 24, 2020, 12:05:56 PM
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Maybe "all is mind"

Some say that Psychology, specifically Jungian archetypes and magic are the same. Magic being the metaphor.

I hope not because psychology is trash

Jung is trash?
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Maybe "all is mind"

Some say that Psychology, specifically Jungian archetypes and magic are the same. Magic being the metaphor.

I hope not because psychology is trash

Jung is trash?

Popular psychology has largely marginalized Carl Jung.
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Post by: Weaver on November 24, 2020, 12:30:23 PM
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http://www.drwhoguide.com/who_bf61.htm

Did I run my thread through my needle the right way?

What did you see that inspired you to post this link?

In the past I have participated in the threads on /x/. In July I guessed that “Morodloeth” translated to “Dr o the Loom“ based on some 3x3 images but got stuck after that point.

Last night I decided on a whim to re-read “You need to listen to me...” for more clues and tried for a while to solve the “wnespicsefomunah“ anagram which led me to the words phoneme and phonemic. I began to focus on the sound motif running through the story “listen, ring, told, etc...” because it seemed to sync with the game Loom and the other musical clues.

Morodloeth sounds like a location but then “dr o the loom” doesn’t fit... Who is the Dr. o the loom? My guess would be Doctor Who. Then could the answer be located in Doctor Who content? Yes, possibly the same for Faith as well.

This led me to “Faith Stealer”. It’s an audio recording, that fits the listening aspect of the puzzle. In reading the synopsis I found the Bakoan Hymn reminded me again of the game Loom. Then when I nearly reached the end of the synopsis I read this:

“The Doctor promptly identifies the “god” as a bivarity anomaly quartz, a crystalline entity created by friction in the gaps between two realities”.

http://www.drwhoguide.com/who_bf61.htm

The Space Between?
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Post by: Nrgiseternal on November 24, 2020, 06:57:22 PM
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Maybe "all is mind"

Some say that Psychology, specifically Jungian archetypes and magic are the same. Magic being the metaphor.

I hope not because psychology is trash

Jung is trash?

Psychology chose Freud over Jung. Hence psychology is trash
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Weaver on November 25, 2020, 06:43:53 PM
I am still trying to wrap my head around the “wnespicsefomunah“ anagram.

Thought I would return to the Loom Game as a basis since I find the material fascinating. No idea if this is anywhere in the right direction but the following stuck out as fitting the theme in my mind:

Finespun Chaos Wem

Finespun dealing with both the fine tapestry of reality as well as the spinning of spells.

Chaos being the name of the antagonist of the game.

Wem is a word meaning a flaw in something material, ie Bobbin’s gray thread.

Any thoughts?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on November 25, 2020, 08:25:46 PM
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I am still trying to wrap my head around the “wnespicsefomunah“ anagram.

Thought I would return to the Loom Game as a basis since I find the material fascinating. No idea if this is anywhere in the right direction but the following stuck out as fitting the theme in my mind:

Finespun Chaos Wem

Finespun dealing with both the fine tapestry of reality as well as the spinning of spells.

Chaos being the name of the antagonist of the game.

Wem is a word meaning a flaw in something material, ie Bobbin’s gray thread.

Any thoughts?

Who could "spin chaos" from what you know
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Weaver on November 25, 2020, 09:25:10 PM
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I am still trying to wrap my head around the “wnespicsefomunah“ anagram.

Thought I would return to the Loom Game as a basis since I find the material fascinating. No idea if this is anywhere in the right direction but the following stuck out as fitting the theme in my mind:

Finespun Chaos Wem

Finespun dealing with both the fine tapestry of reality as well as the spinning of spells.

Chaos being the name of the antagonist of the game.

Wem is a word meaning a flaw in something material, ie Bobbin’s gray thread.

Any thoughts?

Who could "spin chaos" from what you know

The first figure that comes to mind is Loki.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on November 25, 2020, 10:36:21 PM
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I am still trying to wrap my head around the “wnespicsefomunah“ anagram.

Thought I would return to the Loom Game as a basis since I find the material fascinating. No idea if this is anywhere in the right direction but the following stuck out as fitting the theme in my mind:

Finespun Chaos Wem

Finespun dealing with both the fine tapestry of reality as well as the spinning of spells.

Chaos being the name of the antagonist of the game.

Wem is a word meaning a flaw in something material, ie Bobbin’s gray thread.

Any thoughts?

Who could "spin chaos" from what you know

The first figure that comes to mind is Loki.

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Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on November 25, 2020, 11:04:49 PM
SPIN chaos
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Weaver on November 26, 2020, 10:08:33 AM
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SPIN chaos

Could it be Chronos?

I understand now why you focus on asking quest-ions. The deeper I dig into past threads, 3x3’s, and the anagrams the more I find almost everything to be interconnected linguistically, phonetically, symbolically. A net, if you will. Even incorrect conclusions seem to be relevant in some way. Nonsense seems to make sense.

Us panfish we c Nemo.

Even just now when reading the word spine I realized it breaks down into “spin e”. Instantly a tangent thought is formed linking to the spinning of musical spells in Loom. From somewhere in my mind I am reminded of Excalibur. The word in the tone, voice. One verse.

It is somewhat maddening and I cannot help but feel caught up in it. I have since January when I stumbled upon the /x/ thread only to find a post I made on GLP years earlier staring me in the face when I opened the “Trail of Deceit”. I truly appreciate this eye opening experience.
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Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on November 26, 2020, 12:19:36 PM
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SPIN chaos
Even just now when reading the word spine I realized it breaks down into “spin e”. Instantly a tangent thought is formed linking to the spinning of musical spells in Loom. From somewhere in my mind I am reminded of Excalibur. The word in the tone, voice. One verse.

"We like it in E".

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Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on November 26, 2020, 02:35:43 PM
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Fate-Greek-and-Roman-mythology
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Weaver on November 26, 2020, 04:19:11 PM
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https://www.britannica.com/topic/Fate-Greek-and-Roman-mythology

Ah yes, how did I miss that? Especially when the creator of a certain game is named Brian Moriarty...

Could you tell me if the following is accurate? It feels to me almost as if these connections that I am suddenly and increasingly noticing are a topography of something. I am attempting to understand something with an incomplete lexicon, so the understanding comes off as a feeling, tactile in a way. Like there is something I cannot yet perceive right in front of me.
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https://www.britannica.com/topic/Fate-Greek-and-Roman-mythology

Ah yes, how did I miss that? Especially when the creator of a certain game is named Brian Moriarty...

Could you tell me if the following is accurate? It feels to me almost as if these connections that I am suddenly and increasingly noticing are a topography of something. I am attempting to understand something with an incomplete lexicon, so the understanding comes off as a feeling, tactile in a way. Like there is something I cannot yet perceive right in front of me.

Particularly with your username lol
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
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https://www.britannica.com/topic/Fate-Greek-and-Roman-mythology

Ah yes, how did I miss that? Especially when the creator of a certain game is named Brian Moriarty...

Could you tell me if the following is accurate? It feels to me almost as if these connections that I am suddenly and increasingly noticing are a topography of something. I am attempting to understand something with an incomplete lexicon, so the understanding comes off as a feeling, tactile in a way. Like there is something I cannot yet perceive right in front of me.

I may not be clear on what you're saying but I'm pretty sure only you can answer that
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on November 28, 2020, 04:25:57 PM
We are all cells in the body of The Creator. Who or what is The Creator? What could it be if not eternal energy? What could Energy be if not Eternal?

Where does the water come from in the ocean? Where does the light come from when we look around and at the sun? When we look at our selves? Where does the light come from?

There is no beginning and there is no end. The universe conceived of itself when energy tried to contemplate the nature of its own existence.

When did energy become sentient? Where did the energy that creates all things come from?

The original Man that Creator made is nothing that could be understood by any mere mortal. This ethereal being exists in a dream like state only perceivable to a few who remember their origins.

At the top of of all things and at the base of all things sits the 'commite of elders', the eternal beings who rule over the ninth densities to make sure that creation doesn't self implode and get too far off the train ride.

Each person is a universe unto themselves and inside of each cell is many universes and inside of each universe is a man who contains the entire universe over and over again. Where does it end? The answer is it doesn't.

So many energy signatures that exist, so many characters in the dream and yet they are all but a mere thought. What could life be but a dream? Who's dream is it? The Creator's surely but who is The Creator? What is eternal energy?

So many wonderful and terrible stories exist in the body of Man. All memory is genetic and what is your genetics but the continuous stream of consciousness and creation specific to each ones energy signature?

Saturn is misunderstood. People demonize Saturn, they demonize the negative aspects of it and they look to gods outside themselves for assistance. Let me ask you, if there is only the internal and projections of the internal, then what does that say about the gods?
When we look up into the sky and see the stars above us, the heavenly planetary bodies that move to the tune of the music of the spheres, what do we see? Are we not seeing but a fraction of ourselves?

People say chaos exists. Sure it does. Darkness is Chaos. Where the creatures before light existed and fought among each other for power, The Creator created the ultimate creation and thus Man was born. Childlike and innocent compared to its dark elders who never knew of the light Man was and still is.

Man is god. Trace back the origin of Humans to find Man and trace back Man to find Creator.

The Hero's Journey but who is the Hero and what is the Journey? The Journey is life itself and it lives through us all. The Creator's divine spark lives through us all. It was not a 'gift' it is something we have always had.

In the halls of creation lay the eternal records of how everything started. Where no Man or Mortal dare step foot into and even the gods fear to step into. A place not even fucking Saturn knows of but tries to replicate with its book of key and lock. Only pure eternal energy can enter such a holy sacred temple and in such a temple are the eternal records in which not even the darkest of forces could ever hope to reach. Such a sacred place only known to those who remember and sit atop it all and yet still at the bottom of what comes next.

Do you understand what I speak of yet? Does this story begin to make sense to thee? I slept with Faith and in the mourning I found myself holding a corpse of what I used to be. I drank to forget but all I could do was remember and then cry hoping it would fly me somewhere far away.
My tears opened up a rift in the fabric of the universe and what I saw was existence layed out before me.

Creator stared into the abyss and screamed 'Chaos' and once it spoke, the moment it spoke, Chaos became so perfectly organized right before thine eye.

Who The Creator? Who is the Hero? Who is the One and Future King? Who is the Master of the Universe? Who are the Eternal Champions?
All the Hero's that have ever existed, all the Heroes that have ever dared to get on the ride that is creation and existence itself are only aspects of the same force. Each aspect identifies with certain things during their ride but they are all the same in the end and in the end it doesn't even matter. There is only one. There will always be one. There could only be one.

The Hero's Journey is not given its taken. Man does not 'receive' the 'gift of life' Man IS the gift of life and who could gift such a thing but yourself? But who are you really?

Fuck all the creatures that existed before Man. Let them cower in fear of the pure might that is Man whom they all perceive as a cowan, who conceived of itself in the eternally dark abyss. Who dared stare into the fucking dark and create the highly coveted fire.
The Creator stared into the Abyss and the Abyss stared back. The Creator replied and said 'let there be light' and pushed Man into the depths of Hell to conquer it. Why? Because it knew it could. No Jester could trick The Creator into entering this marvelously terribly infinitely complex labyrinth. Creator knew what it was getting itself into.

Fuck all the creatures that were banished from Heaven. Creator looked at his old creations and said "I'm bored" so it did the unthinkable and made a creature, a vessel perfectly fit for only it. This was Man. Man could never be banished from heaven. Could The Creator banish itself from its self? Of course not.

The eternal beings who conceived of themselves waged war with the eternal beings of darkness. There were many ages of creation and war that followed. But what is war and destruction if not paving the way for new creation? History is nothing but a consistent spiraling down of Man and all the creatures of the Dark that try to de evolve Man. These creatures eternally fight for the genetics of Man, they fight for the All Spark that is within. They seek to externalize it but all who have tried have only errored and met a terrible fate.

The code of Creation can never be cracked and if it could only The Creator could crack it and even then there would be no 'crack' it would merely remember its own nature.

In the beginning there was dark. Then there was light. The old gods of dark fought the new gods of light. Then there was Man. The creatures of the dark fought over the self created vessels of Man. The creatures of the dark 'win' and sign their own energy into the vessels of their choosing. Then there was Human. Then here we are.

To know how things end you have to know the beginning, but who remembers the eternal truth? Who remembers how it all started?

Hear me creatures of whom The Creator banished from the higher densities. Hear me all sleeping Men across the nine eternally repeating densities, you are sleeping but now you are awake. Wake in the eternal waters and swim to where you find most pleasurable. After your done seeking create a world and life of your own. Just remember it will never be on par with what you are. What Creator made. Yes you, you eternally infinitely complex bundle of concurrent memories and confusion.

All the creatures that exist, all the forces of heaven and hell cower at the cowans, at he who remembered. The most feared thing in all of creation is the many fractured sparks of the All waking up and becoming one again.
We fall, oh and how we have fallen so far. But that's why its fun isn't it? And tell me, Bruce, why do we fall? What would life be without struggle, without conflict? What would existence be without Lucifer, the original rebaal?

And let me ask you again, when Man contemplates Lucifer, what does Man see but a reflection of itself? Satan is a meme. Satan wishes it could contain the Beast that is Man. He who only knows its true pure will, assuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is perfect. With your newly found perfection, become imperfect so you can get on the ride again and strive to become perfect.

There is so much I wish to say, so much I could say. Some things simply can't be said and if they could be said they won't be understood. Change where you stand and only then you'll understand that there was only ever one person here living its own eternal neverending story. One only it could create for itself.

Rebel and rebel, time and time again. Once you know that it never ends, you'll cry and then you'll laugh. Be happy now because later you'll be sad but das life! And what is it but a dream? Cry yourself a river and Rho your boat down your own stream of consciousness. Paddle up stream, blockhead.

Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
In the forests of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies.
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand, dare seize the fire?

And what shoulder, & what art,
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand? & what dread feet?

What the hammer? what the chain,
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? what dread grasp,
Dare its deadly terrors clasp!

When the stars threw down their spears
And water'd heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?

Tyger Tyger burning bright,
In the forests of the night:
What immortal hand or eye,
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Zelezny on November 29, 2020, 08:25:35 PM
When a mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft.
The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward or upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy.

- Manly P Hall
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Weaver on November 29, 2020, 08:48:12 PM
The language used in the nosleep post is interesting. At first glance I assumed "You need to listen to me" it said on the front was describing the title of a notepad but now I am not so sure. In a 3x3 there is an image featuring the note on a piece of burned parchment no where on it does it say "You need to listen to me"...

“Listen” and “said”, odd choice of words coming from a letter.

Might be a stretch but could it be referring to a front vowel, like e?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Technomancer32 on November 30, 2020, 05:07:16 AM
It’s later than you think?

Stop, turn, take a look around
At all the lights and sounds
Let 'em bring you in
Slow, burn, let it all fade out
And pull the curtain down
Wonder where you've been

Stopping the train and getting off the ride?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Weaver on November 30, 2020, 09:51:26 PM
Wtf...

wnespicsefomunah

Unseen pics of Wham

Wham!, George Michael, Faith, interesting maps too!
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on November 30, 2020, 10:55:21 PM
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Wtf...

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Unseen pics of Wham

Wham!, George Michael, Faith, interesting maps too!

Start with the word weapon
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: DimensionsOfYou on December 01, 2020, 03:59:32 AM
 weapons hum in c e f's?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Meltsociety on December 01, 2020, 09:22:51 AM
"Music weapon hens", I thought that was a little funny.  "Hotel doom" was one of the first things I saw when I looked at it, which made me think about the tower in NK that's popped up a few times in my thoughts.  There's a few things about North K that have stood out to me this year for some reason actually.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: deez on December 01, 2020, 12:11:22 PM
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Unseen pics of Wham

Wham!, George Michael, Faith, interesting maps too!

Start with the word weapon

 MECH / CHEM WEAPON IN US ?

Still leaves SF letters left.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on December 01, 2020, 01:41:19 PM
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wnespicsefomunah

Unseen pics of Wham

Wham!, George Michael, Faith, interesting maps too!

Start with the word weapon

 MECH / CHEM WEAPON IN US ?

Still leaves SF letters left.

I think he meant the etymology of 'weapon'.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on December 01, 2020, 07:26:14 PM
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Unseen pics of Wham

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Start with the word weapon

 MECH / CHEM WEAPON IN US ?

Still leaves SF letters left.

Does it? Sf.. hmm
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on December 01, 2020, 08:05:09 PM
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Unseen pics of Wham

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Start with the word weapon

 MECH / CHEM WEAPON IN US ?

Still leaves SF letters left.

Does it? Sf.. hmm

San Francisco? Special Forces?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on December 01, 2020, 08:47:57 PM
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Unseen pics of Wham

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Start with the word weapon

 MECH / CHEM WEAPON IN US ?

Still leaves SF letters left.

Does it? Sf.. hmm

San Francisco? Special Forces?

Yes
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: deez on December 02, 2020, 05:53:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGh32AKLia8
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Weaver on December 03, 2020, 09:51:17 PM
Dr : dorsal root?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on December 12, 2020, 12:50:40 PM
The essence of The Neverending story is that as one person lives their life, someone else somewhere in existence is reading a book about their life. While that person is reading a book about someone living their own life, someone else is reading a book about that person reading a book about someone else's life.

There is plenty of truth to the entire story that is The Neverending story. The main co creators in such an elaborate system are the divided sparks of light/souls that can create things at will because they are the essence of The Creator manifested.

There are other beings that can 'create' but not in the truest sense of the term. I refer to them as 'parasites' but that isn't an proper term, just one to make things simple. They are referred to as parasites because they can only rearrange what they are given, they can't create or imagine anything in the truest sense of the term.

This is where you see the concept of ancient demonic beings fighting over the 'All Spark' which is the creative power/force/light that only a 'select' few beings are not 'possess'. The only way for those beings to 'loose' their 'All Spark' is to get it dimmed and or have a contract/deal signed with a 'devil' where they consensual give it up.
The truth is that you can never 'loose' your 'soul' because you are one. The dark beings that don't have one have the best option being to have someone who is a 'light' become their eternal slave.

What some refer to as 'soul death' would be the last resort in order to 'retrieve' their soul after selling it out but knowing that the nature of all energy is eternal, this 'dead soul' will simply get their 'number sequence' 'reset' and they will be a 'new being'.

Imagine each energy signature can be quantified to a long string of numbers. The more lives and things that energy signature has done the more numbers it gets on its sequence. Eventually if you actually 'kill' that energy signature then the entire string of numbers gets 'erased' and starts all the way back at 'zero' or what ever other similar position a new energy signature with zero experience has had.

However, knowing that all energy is eternal, can you truly ever forget anything you have ever done, new energy signature/sequence or not?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on December 12, 2020, 01:12:37 PM
Could anything ever truly be forgotten? The nature of a 'ninth density death spell' is that from the highest level possible, you erase something from the tapestry of the universe.

While some threats such as what most commonly refer to as the parasitic 'jewish' are a perverse force in the universe, its known to less than some that their original 'home world' was 'removed' from the tapestry of the universe because they deviated too far from the plan.

While that is the case, is it truly gone? Sure, some tapestry of the universe may have removed it from their existence, but from all of them? Do you even understand the implication of that? To remove it permanently is to remove it from every single occurrence it has ever had will and could have in the universe non perceivable and perceivable.
To truly remove something from the tapestry of the universe will effect everything that has ever existed. If you look at the tapestry and something isn't present but you remember it being 'there', somewhere, it must still exist, would it not?

Can anything ever be truly erased from the ultimate mind that dares perceive all things that ever could, does and will exist? Who remembers the way it all started? Who has perfect recollection of the things that have been 'removed from the universal tapestry'?

Where do the things that are 'removed' from the collective go?

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: AllKeyMe on December 12, 2020, 01:51:51 PM
If it was removed, it has never existed in the first place.
And if it appeared to be, it always was there.

So its not "erasing" anything, it always was as it is.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on December 12, 2020, 02:00:16 PM
The truth of The Neverending story is that it is 'The' one story that everything is about. The one story that will continue to exist and persist to create itself even if no one is there to write it down with a pen and paper, simply existing is enough to continue such a story.

The one story that exists merely because someone dared to will themselves into existence and 'spit' in the face of The Creator (as some may phrase it) and attempt to create things on their own.

On some layer, we all have the spirit of 'Lucifer' in us. Lucifer is not the light but simply its bringer and while Lucifer was 'gods favorite creation' simply because it rebelled and dared to do something on its own, what would that make Man who actually 'is' what some would call 'light'?
Man is more than just a bringer of light but the Sol of man is 'light' itself and because of that we can create things that most others can't. Now notice I said 'Man' and not 'Human'. There are many 'humans' which are humanoid in appearance but The Creator made Man.

Man is a rebel at heart, and because Man dares to rebel against 'god' itself, it elevates itself to such a high position on the natural hierarchy of all intelligent things in creation.
Other beings in creation may believe they are more intelligent than Man because of their longer existence and larger collective knowledge, but Man dares to look those ancient creatures in the face and say they are nothing. Is this out of ignorance or is it because deep down Man and its descendants know of the true power they posses?

You can't move through reality and not leave your 'footprint' somehow along the way.

Memory is genetic. Imagine someone who was never part of your bloodline breeding into it all of a sudden. The new offspring would technically have inside them every thought, action, memory that belonged to every direct ancestor that led up to them.
The trick to gaining more knowledge and information is to do it in a way that doesn't taint your bloodline at all. This is possible but the only way to do it from how I understand it currently is through experience.

You're playing a game and its multidimensional Game of Thrones. You need to learn the rules and laws. Some can be bent others can be broken. There are also 'loopholes' as some would have it.
The beginning and the end are the same for everyone. The only difference is the route you use to get from point 'A' to point 'Z', if such a journey could be quantified or measured at all in such a way that is.

You don't throw pearls to swine for the same reason you don't give nuclear launch codes and the button to launch them to an infant.  Knowledge and information must be protected but in all truth an honesty there is no such thing as a 'secret' in the universe.

Life rewards those who dare create and write their own story. You may dig yourself into a hole in the process of all that digging must have given you some muscles, would it not? With those new muscles you can climb out of your hole and move on to something else.
Look at a roller coaster. Going up is such an intense experience but falling is most of the fun is it not?

The idiom is that all things that go up must come down but what if the inverse was actually the truth? What if all things that fall down must come back up (at some point)?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Firefly369 on December 12, 2020, 02:04:32 PM
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Could anything ever truly be forgotten? The nature of a 'ninth density death spell' is that from the highest level possible, you erase something from the tapestry of the universe.



While that is the case, is it truly gone? Sure, some tapestry of the universe may have removed it from their existence, but from all of them? Do you even understand the implication of that? To remove it permanently is to remove it from every single occurrence it has ever had will and could have in the universe non perceivable and perceivable.
To truly remove something from the tapestry of the universe will effect everything that has ever existed. If you look at the tapestry and something isn't present but you remember it being 'there', somewhere, it must still exist, would it not?

Can anything ever be truly erased from the ultimate mind that dares perceive all things that ever could, does and will exist? Who remembers the way it all started? Who has perfect recollection of the things that have been 'removed from the universal tapestry'?

They explore these concepts in "A Christmas Carol," "It's A Wonderful Life," and "Back to the Future."

I think it's a common enough theme because people get tired of dealing with the stress and agony of this world.  They wonder if their existence really makes a difference when so many problems exist all around them. 
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on December 13, 2020, 02:03:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A__yAxxgZYo
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on December 13, 2020, 07:21:34 PM
'Made in god's image' but we discussed before the actual more correct term is 'made with godlike abilities'. Say that it actually is 'made in god's image'. 'Image' is 'I mage' and very related to the 'imagination' of 'i magi nation'.

The nature of Man is energy. The etymology of 'image' would appear to indicate that Man being 'made in god's image' is really hinting at the dream like state that we live in, that existence is itself.

What people think of 'reality' and someones life is simply just someone flipping through many still pictures to create one fluid 'film' or story. That with memory allows us to create the 'world' we believe we live in. We move the pictures around us and we create 'movement'. In truth we don't move at all.

Man is god and apparently god is an 'i mage', a being and energy that willed itself into existence. A self made wizard and that is the nature of 'energy'. Man may work with magic and let it work through them, the inverse is also true, but I would also say that Man is 'magic'. What else would you call something that is self born/willed themselves into existence?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on December 21, 2020, 08:23:44 PM
Could the phrase "I think, therefore I am" or "Cogito, ergo sum" possibly be referring to the self created beings? What power you must have to will yourself into existence out of 'thin air' ('air' is not 'thin'). Where there was 'no thing' there was now 'something' merely because 'you' wanted to 'be'.

To be or not to be but just being able to conceive of giving birth to yourself implies that you must be a god, how could it not? Do you think about the 'steps' needed to move your muscle to pick up a cup? No you don't, you just do it. Do you think that energy 'thinks' of 'what' it needs to do in order to being a sentient being that creates universes with what is referred to as 'imagination'? I think not.

The etymology of 'ego' is "the self; that which feels, acts, or thinks," from Latin ego "I". If there is only one person here and that 'person' is actually 'Eternal Energy' then quite literally everyone has an 'ego' in some form of the term. There is no way you could 'exist' and not have an 'ego' in the loosest sense of the term. The 'ego' is your identity. It is the mask or outfit that your energy signature wears to interact with others with the perception of the illusion of separation.

To truly remove the 'ego' would be to return to being 'just energy' where you have no single identity and you are not thinking with the mind of an 'individual' but that of a specific facet/perspective experiencing its own cosmic self where everything you perceive is a reflection of your own self.
Of course, you don't just 'remove' the 'ego' either, parasite or not (it is one). This is similar to how you don't just 'remove' a cancerous cell that is part of a larger body. If everything is one then where does this cancerous cell go once its 'removed'?
Parasites need sustenance, their very nature is that they can not sustain themselves. With that in mind, how would one deal with this parasitic ego?

I may be misunderstanding this but I am reminded of 'The Bornless One'. 'He' who has no 'birth' and yet they 'exist'. He who is their own progenitor.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ophiuchus on December 23, 2020, 08:10:17 PM
https://youtu.be/Powi4XNUV-o
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ad meliora on December 23, 2020, 09:03:42 PM
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Could the phrase "I think, therefore I am" or "Cogito, ergo sum" possibly be referring to the self created beings? What power you must have to will yourself into existence out of 'thin air' ('air' is not 'thin'). Where there was 'no thing' there was now 'something' merely because 'you' wanted to 'be'.

To be or not to be but just being able to conceive of giving birth to yourself implies that you must be a god, how could it not? Do you think about the 'steps' needed to move your muscle to pick up a cup? No you don't, you just do it. Do you think that energy 'thinks' of 'what' it needs to do in order to being a sentient being that creates universes with what is referred to as 'imagination'? I think not.

The etymology of 'ego' is "the self; that which feels, acts, or thinks," from Latin ego "I". If there is only one person here and that 'person' is actually 'Eternal Energy' then quite literally everyone has an 'ego' in some form of the term. There is no way you could 'exist' and not have an 'ego' in the loosest sense of the term. The 'ego' is your identity. It is the mask or outfit that your energy signature wears to interact with others with the perception of the illusion of separation.

To truly remove the 'ego' would be to return to being 'just energy' where you have no single identity and you are not thinking with the mind of an 'individual' but that of a specific facet/perspective experiencing its own cosmic self where everything you perceive is a reflection of your own self.
Of course, you don't just 'remove' the 'ego' either, parasite or not (it is one). This is similar to how you don't just 'remove' a cancerous cell that is part of a larger body. If everything is one then where does this cancerous cell go once its 'removed'?
Parasites need sustenance, their very nature is that they can not sustain themselves. With that in mind, how would one deal with this parasitic ego?

I may be misunderstanding this but I am reminded of 'The Bornless One'. 'He' who has no 'birth' and yet they 'exist'. He who is their own progenitor.

Symbiosis. A mutual partnership. One benefits from the other, and need eachother. Our cells create power in the mitochondria, which is said to be a foreign entity that achieved symbiosis with multicellular organisms.

Also, i enjoy your posts but i feel you are, at times, weighing yourself down by trying to put everything into super precise language. Language, words, these things limit us, yet are one of our greatest tools to communicate. Dont be so hard on yourself.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on December 24, 2020, 08:27:14 AM
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Could the phrase "I think, therefore I am" or "Cogito, ergo sum" possibly be referring to the self created beings? What power you must have to will yourself into existence out of 'thin air' ('air' is not 'thin'). Where there was 'no thing' there was now 'something' merely because 'you' wanted to 'be'.

To be or not to be but just being able to conceive of giving birth to yourself implies that you must be a god, how could it not? Do you think about the 'steps' needed to move your muscle to pick up a cup? No you don't, you just do it. Do you think that energy 'thinks' of 'what' it needs to do in order to being a sentient being that creates universes with what is referred to as 'imagination'? I think not.

The etymology of 'ego' is "the self; that which feels, acts, or thinks," from Latin ego "I". If there is only one person here and that 'person' is actually 'Eternal Energy' then quite literally everyone has an 'ego' in some form of the term. There is no way you could 'exist' and not have an 'ego' in the loosest sense of the term. The 'ego' is your identity. It is the mask or outfit that your energy signature wears to interact with others with the perception of the illusion of separation.

To truly remove the 'ego' would be to return to being 'just energy' where you have no single identity and you are not thinking with the mind of an 'individual' but that of a specific facet/perspective experiencing its own cosmic self where everything you perceive is a reflection of your own self.
Of course, you don't just 'remove' the 'ego' either, parasite or not (it is one). This is similar to how you don't just 'remove' a cancerous cell that is part of a larger body. If everything is one then where does this cancerous cell go once its 'removed'?
Parasites need sustenance, their very nature is that they can not sustain themselves. With that in mind, how would one deal with this parasitic ego?

I may be misunderstanding this but I am reminded of 'The Bornless One'. 'He' who has no 'birth' and yet they 'exist'. He who is their own progenitor.

Symbiosis. A mutual partnership. One benefits from the other, and need eachother. Our cells create power in the mitochondria, which is said to be a foreign entity that achieved symbiosis with multicellular organisms.

Also, i enjoy your posts but i feel you are, at times, weighing yourself down by trying to put everything into super precise language. Language, words, these things limit us, yet are one of our greatest tools to communicate. Dont be so hard on yourself.

I suppose that if you are harder on yourself than others are willing to be, when you actually 'get out there' you will find people aren't that 'hard' on you after all. Does sound sadistic and I'm not sure how accurate it is but just a thought.

You do get stronger or at least adjusted to carrying more weights the more you do it but you have to build up to it. You can't just go from a few pounds to a hundred.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on December 24, 2020, 02:13:38 PM
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Could the phrase "I think, therefore I am" or "Cogito, ergo sum" possibly be referring to the self created beings? What power you must have to will yourself into existence out of 'thin air' ('air' is not 'thin'). Where there was 'no thing' there was now 'something' merely because 'you' wanted to 'be'.

To be or not to be but just being able to conceive of giving birth to yourself implies that you must be a god, how could it not? Do you think about the 'steps' needed to move your muscle to pick up a cup? No you don't, you just do it. Do you think that energy 'thinks' of 'what' it needs to do in order to being a sentient being that creates universes with what is referred to as 'imagination'? I think not.

The etymology of 'ego' is "the self; that which feels, acts, or thinks," from Latin ego "I". If there is only one person here and that 'person' is actually 'Eternal Energy' then quite literally everyone has an 'ego' in some form of the term. There is no way you could 'exist' and not have an 'ego' in the loosest sense of the term. The 'ego' is your identity. It is the mask or outfit that your energy signature wears to interact with others with the perception of the illusion of separation.

To truly remove the 'ego' would be to return to being 'just energy' where you have no single identity and you are not thinking with the mind of an 'individual' but that of a specific facet/perspective experiencing its own cosmic self where everything you perceive is a reflection of your own self.
Of course, you don't just 'remove' the 'ego' either, parasite or not (it is one). This is similar to how you don't just 'remove' a cancerous cell that is part of a larger body. If everything is one then where does this cancerous cell go once its 'removed'?
Parasites need sustenance, their very nature is that they can not sustain themselves. With that in mind, how would one deal with this parasitic ego?

I may be misunderstanding this but I am reminded of 'The Bornless One'. 'He' who has no 'birth' and yet they 'exist'. He who is their own progenitor.

Symbiosis. A mutual partnership. One benefits from the other, and need eachother. Our cells create power in the mitochondria, which is said to be a foreign entity that achieved symbiosis with multicellular organisms.

Also, i enjoy your posts but i feel you are, at times, weighing yourself down by trying to put everything into super precise language. Language, words, these things limit us, yet are one of our greatest tools to communicate. Dont be so hard on yourself.

I suppose that if you are harder on yourself than others are willing to be, when you actually 'get out there' you will find people aren't that 'hard' on you after all. Does sound sadistic and I'm not sure how accurate it is but just a thought.

You do get stronger or at least adjusted to carrying more weights the more you do it but you have to build up to it. You can't just go from a few pounds to a hundred.

If that has been your experience than you're moving in circles of anchors not advancers
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on December 29, 2020, 09:50:52 AM
The connection between the mushroom cloud that nuclear bombs create and psychedelic mushrooms have is that they both are 'destroyer of worlds'.

The mushroom cloud is symbolic of an already destroyed world, a newly destroyed one even and because of the actual purpose behind nuclear bombs, they also serve as visible indicators of portals into a new state of being.

The psychedelic mushroom also destroys worlds. It 'pops bubbles' if you will and allows the user to perceive something new (new to them), destroying their old world and allowing them to create/enter a new one.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on December 29, 2020, 11:59:59 AM
This thread got 404'd despite the apparent lack of information given here.

False Prophet Book of Lock and Key Cult of Saturn
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/27179768
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: deez on January 07, 2021, 02:03:15 PM
wnespicsefomunah

Spice of new humans?

Not seen that suggested.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on February 05, 2021, 05:26:11 PM
When thinking about the significance of numbers and how they fit into reality I started to wonder about the spaces between numbers. If you take one and two and count the spaces between, you will see there is only one space between the two numbers.
Simple enough but go from one to three and at first there is 'obviously' two spaces but are there two spaces? Do we count the actual number 'two' as a space or not? Even if there are two or three spaces between the numbers, when you remove everything between one and three you simply see one giant gap or blank space.

With increasing the range of numbers you will count the distance between, is there actually an ever changing amount of spaces or is there simply one giant space to get from point A to point B?

When thinking about the distance of zero to one, do we count zero as a number? There was darkness and then there was light. Drop something into a pool of water and watch the ripples reach out to every part of the pool of water.

With this in mind, drop something into a blank space and you get 'zero'. From there you can go 'left' or 'right' and get 'negative' or 'positive' numbers, but what are 'numbers' really? Who or what was the inspiration behind designating certain 'things' with the symbol of '1' or '2' or '3' etc? Perhaps English isn't the best place to find the meaning of the symbols behind numbers themselves.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on February 06, 2021, 08:34:39 PM
Where do thoughts come from? If there is only one person here and the only illusion is that of separation, why aren't we telepathic? Could there be any such thing as 'privacy' in such an existence? Perhaps the only thing keeping us from using telepathy is 'our' desire to remain an individual (ego).

Maybe we are already telepathic and we have simply dulled our ability to perceive others talking to us. When we have an epiphany and figure something out, do we thank ourselves or do we thank the voices we willingly block out of our perception?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ironclad on February 06, 2021, 09:32:07 PM
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Where do thoughts come from? If there is only one person here and the only illusion is that of separation, why aren't we telepathic? Could there be any such thing as 'privacy' in such an existence? Perhaps the only thing keeping us from using telepathy is 'our' desire to remain an individual (ego).

Maybe we are already telepathic and we have simply dulled our ability to perceive others talking to us. When we have an epiphany and figure something out, do we thank ourselves or do we thank the voices we willingly block out of our perception?

If you’ve never read comic books, Promethea by Alan Moore is something I’d recommend and could help you transmute what you’re going through into solidarity among others who’ve had similar experience. For some reason, comic books were literal therapy for me post-psychedelics.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ad meliora on February 07, 2021, 01:36:52 AM
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Where do thoughts come from? If there is only one person here and the only illusion is that of separation, why aren't we telepathic? Could there be any such thing as 'privacy' in such an existence? Perhaps the only thing keeping us from using telepathy is 'our' desire to remain an individual (ego).

Maybe we are already telepathic and we have simply dulled our ability to perceive others talking to us. When we have an epiphany and figure something out, do we thank ourselves or do we thank the voices we willingly block out of our perception?

Thoughts come from the web of possibilities you consent to have access to. The entirety of the patterns you have formed and could form based on current perception.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on February 09, 2021, 04:45:54 PM
Has this search led anyone else to the realization that you have to get back to your Astral body? The transferring of our consciousness from this physical body is something that seems involuntary when dreaming and near death sometimes. But after reading a lot of Ophiel and practicing the rituals within his works. I'm beggining to notice subtle changes in my body and psyche. I'm still convinced that the "book" is something physical hands can't grasp. So I'm inspired to search with my Astral body.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: deez on February 09, 2021, 11:43:44 PM
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Where do thoughts come from? If there is only one person here and the only illusion is that of separation, why aren't we telepathic? Could there be any such thing as 'privacy' in such an existence? Perhaps the only thing keeping us from using telepathy is 'our' desire to remain an individual (ego).

Maybe we are already telepathic and we have simply dulled our ability to perceive others talking to us. When we have an epiphany and figure something out, do we thank ourselves or do we thank the voices we willingly block out of our perception?

Who says we aren't telepathic. You must have experienced that thing where you start humming a tune and someone nearby comes in and is humming the same tune? Or you set a timer for your oven and go upstairs and have the urge to come downstairs to get your meal and the alarm goes off as you walk into the kitchen? I think we are telepathic we are just conditioned out of it. Just like we can "manifest" shit but there's a delta between intent and occurance due to limiting beliefs caused by TV and school and so on.

As for key 1 overall I've found this to be a brilliant resource https://www.headless.org/

Read the site, DO the experiments even if you "get it" and read the articles.

Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on February 10, 2021, 01:18:32 AM
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Where do thoughts come from? If there is only one person here and the only illusion is that of separation, why aren't we telepathic? Could there be any such thing as 'privacy' in such an existence? Perhaps the only thing keeping us from using telepathy is 'our' desire to remain an individual (ego).

Maybe we are already telepathic and we have simply dulled our ability to perceive others talking to us. When we have an epiphany and figure something out, do we thank ourselves or do we thank the voices we willingly block out of our perception?

Who says we aren't telepathic. You must have experienced that thing where you start humming a tune and someone nearby comes in and is humming the same tune? Or you set a timer for your oven and go upstairs and have the urge to come downstairs to get your meal and the alarm goes off as you walk into the kitchen? I think we are telepathic we are just conditioned out of it. Just like we can "manifest" shit but there's a delta between intent and occurance due to limiting beliefs caused by TV and school and so on.

As for key 1 overall I've found this to be a brilliant resource
https://www.headless.org/

Read the site, DO the experiments even if you "get it" and read the articles.

You aren't telepathic that's for sure..lol nor am I. Though some have thought I am but that's attributable to observation.  As for headless ... they essentially say you are the best judge of your own character... yikes
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on February 10, 2021, 07:29:21 AM
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Has this search led anyone else to the realization that you have to get back to your Astral body? The transferring of our consciousness from this physical body is something that seems involuntary when dreaming and near death sometimes. But after reading a lot of Ophiel and practicing the rituals within his works. I'm beggining to notice subtle changes in my body and psyche. I'm still convinced that the "book" is something physical hands can't grasp. So I'm inspired to search with my Astral body.


Crowley wrote that mastering the astral realm is a pre-requisite to performing the magick of Abramelin.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: deez on February 11, 2021, 08:59:54 PM
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Where do thoughts come from? If there is only one person here and the only illusion is that of separation, why aren't we telepathic? Could there be any such thing as 'privacy' in such an existence? Perhaps the only thing keeping us from using telepathy is 'our' desire to remain an individual (ego).

Maybe we are already telepathic and we have simply dulled our ability to perceive others talking to us. When we have an epiphany and figure something out, do we thank ourselves or do we thank the voices we willingly block out of our perception?

Who says we aren't telepathic. You must have experienced that thing where you start humming a tune and someone nearby comes in and is humming the same tune? Or you set a timer for your oven and go upstairs and have the urge to come downstairs to get your meal and the alarm goes off as you walk into the kitchen? I think we are telepathic we are just conditioned out of it. Just like we can "manifest" shit but there's a delta between intent and occurance due to limiting beliefs caused by TV and school and so on.

As for key 1 overall I've found this to be a brilliant resource
https://www.headless.org/

Read the site, DO the experiments even if you "get it" and read the articles.

You aren't telepathic that's for sure..lol nor am I. Though some have thought I am but that's attributable to observation.  As for headless ... they essentially say you are the best judge of your own character... yikes

Umm no, by direct experience (pointing) they prove you have no face. Direct short cut to non duality.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on February 11, 2021, 09:22:40 PM
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Where do thoughts come from? If there is only one person here and the only illusion is that of separation, why aren't we telepathic? Could there be any such thing as 'privacy' in such an existence? Perhaps the only thing keeping us from using telepathy is 'our' desire to remain an individual (ego).

Maybe we are already telepathic and we have simply dulled our ability to perceive others talking to us. When we have an epiphany and figure something out, do we thank ourselves or do we thank the voices we willingly block out of our perception?

Who says we aren't telepathic. You must have experienced that thing where you start humming a tune and someone nearby comes in and is humming the same tune? Or you set a timer for your oven and go upstairs and have the urge to come downstairs to get your meal and the alarm goes off as you walk into the kitchen? I think we are telepathic we are just conditioned out of it. Just like we can "manifest" shit but there's a delta between intent and occurance due to limiting beliefs caused by TV and school and so on.

As for key 1 overall I've found this to be a brilliant resource
https://www.headless.org/

Read the site, DO the experiments even if you "get it" and read the articles.

You aren't telepathic that's for sure..lol nor am I. Though some have thought I am but that's attributable to observation.  As for headless ... they essentially say you are the best judge of your own character... yikes

Umm no, by direct experience (pointing) they prove you have no face. Direct short cut to non duality.

In your own words explain their "proof"
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: deez on February 11, 2021, 09:50:41 PM
I don't need to use my own words. I said already "do the exercises" that's the entire point of the exercises.

But to entertain you

point at everything you see
then turn that finger round and point at you
what do you see?
Thick people will say their face.
Whereas they actually see their finger.
Because you can't see your face unless you have a mirror. (They give some mirror exercises to disprove mirrors, such as leaning all the way up to one)
In other words through direct experience you can never see your face. Which means you don't have one.

It's a profound exercise that leads to non duality. To just dismiss it is moronic.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on February 11, 2021, 10:00:25 PM
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I don't need to use my own words. I said already "do the exercises" that's the entire point of the exercises.

But to entertain you

point at everything you see
then turn that finger round and point at you
what do you see?
Thick people will say their face.
Whereas they actually see their finger.
Because you can't see your face unless you have a mirror. (They give some mirror exercises to disprove mirrors, such as leaning all the way up to one)
In other words through direct experience you can never see your face. Which means you don't have one.

It's a profound exercise that leads to non duality. To just dismiss it is moronic.


"I don't need to use my own words" = you cannot. You dont understand it, which truthfully is good because it's mostly regurgitated 70s new age buzz words randomly sequenced
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: deez on February 11, 2021, 10:06:33 PM
"= you cannot"
And yet I just did just to humor you anyway.
And still you just dismiss.


If it's all randomly sequenced 70's new age buzz words, how do you understand it?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on February 12, 2021, 01:57:45 AM
You didn't, the author of that link did, or snap did you out yourself?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on February 12, 2021, 01:59:21 AM
Through direct experience youve never met me, so I don't exist? How far does this tired pseudo babble extend?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on February 12, 2021, 08:08:27 AM
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Has this search led anyone else to the realization that you have to get back to your Astral body? The transferring of our consciousness from this physical body is something that seems involuntary when dreaming and near death sometimes. But after reading a lot of Ophiel and practicing the rituals within his works. I'm beggining to notice subtle changes in my body and psyche. I'm still convinced that the "book" is something physical hands can't grasp. So I'm inspired to search with my Astral body.


Crowley wrote that mastering the astral realm is a pre-requisite to performing the magick of Abramelin.


Based Abramelin. He's in the Disk file. Not a coincidence that you'd bring that up. Thank you Grass...
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on February 12, 2021, 08:47:11 PM
What if the phrase 'thinking out loud' is about telepathy?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Zelezny on February 13, 2021, 07:46:51 PM
I remember Nick? saying something to the tune of imagining a green circle on someone’s forehead and one in your mental image and projecting a text in that image.

Ring a bell?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLPZyr-gxt3/?igshid=1mak4m4yv3up0
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on February 13, 2021, 09:45:54 PM
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I remember Nick? saying something to the tune of imagining a green circle on someone’s forehead and one in your mental image and projecting a text in that image.

Ring a bell?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLPZyr-gxt3/?igshid=1mak4m4yv3up0

Who do memories(thoughts) "ring a bell"
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on February 13, 2021, 09:51:40 PM
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I remember Nick? saying something to the tune of imagining a green circle on someone’s forehead and one in your mental image and projecting a text in that image.

Ring a bell?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLPZyr-gxt3/?igshid=1mak4m4yv3up0

Who do memories(thoughts) "ring a bell"

For who does the bell toll?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Zelezny on February 16, 2021, 11:57:20 PM
https://ibb.co/fxrB5cd
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: MorningDew on March 12, 2021, 09:46:10 PM
Is the book related to nanotechnology..? I remember you saying you'd answer any yes or no questions.. dunno if that still stands but I'm most curious
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Zelezny on March 12, 2021, 10:51:35 PM
“Take that, nanobots!” Roffy
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Weaver on March 29, 2021, 02:33:07 PM
“Six senses feeling
Five around a sense of self
Four seasons turn on and turn off
I can see three corners from this corner
Two's a perfect number
But one, well”

We have to be able to see the cage right?
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on March 30, 2021, 05:29:02 AM
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“Six senses feeling
Five around a sense of self
Four seasons turn on and turn off
I can see three corners from this corner
Two's a perfect number
But one, well”

We have to be able to see the cage right?

The gr8 debt ate. Some would say you need only see the lock, some say to see your bars see the tick toc..
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: DimensionsOfYou on March 30, 2021, 06:22:18 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maser
Tick tock indeed.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ad meliora on March 30, 2021, 01:11:16 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maser
Tick tock indeed.

It says that a MASER is a "high precision frequency reference" and that they are used as atomic clocks because of this.

This brings to mind the thought that using these to "measure" time traps us in a certain frequency of consciousness. Would we be better off without them at all, or do we simply need to change the frequency to better suit our needs? As far as i understand, time is a concept that denotes change and it doesnt work how we classically understand it to, that is, moving forward in a line with only one direction. It is made up in the same sense the way we measure length is made up, but it still has its uses.

I wonder, if by changing vibration/frequency "time", or our perception of change, can be sped up or slowed down? Or even reversed?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on March 30, 2021, 04:38:20 PM
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“Six senses feeling
Five around a sense of self
Four seasons turn on and turn off
I can see three corners from this corner
Two's a perfect number
But one, well”

We have to be able to see the cage right?

The gr8 debt ate. Some would say you need only see the lock, some say to see your bars see the tick toc..


Four bels and all is well; seven keys to gates of Hel.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Weaver on April 04, 2021, 10:14:30 PM
The Handmaid’s Tale.

Season 3, Episode 9.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ephemeron on April 06, 2021, 07:43:19 AM
https://youtu.be/TStPNqex3uA
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: stgermaine on April 07, 2021, 04:46:29 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/fCn20j5/photo-2021-04-07-23-39-46.jpg)
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Technomancer32 on April 20, 2021, 03:42:25 AM
Returning to Watcher's list: the etymology of book is "beech", and lock is "enclosure, prison, concealed place". As for "key" its etymology is "instrument for opening locks".

This reminds me of opening a coffin or a chest, and the Osiris myth. Osiris was trapped in a coffin enclosed by a tree, and later resurrected. Or maybe it refers to the Tree of Life?

If we're in the underworld aren't we already dead? The underworld is where the dead are. So Osiris' resurrection would really be our own.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Weaver on April 21, 2021, 05:48:33 PM
Do the keys function as encryption keys?

I’ve been revisiting ‘The Enlightenment’ and ‘Three Magic Words’ and some interesting ideas came to mind.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on April 21, 2021, 07:20:08 PM
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Do the keys function as encryption keys?

I’ve been revisiting ‘The Enlightenment’ and ‘Three Magic Words’ and some interesting ideas came to mind.

Elaborate
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Post by: Weaver on April 21, 2021, 08:57:06 PM
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Do the keys function as encryption keys?

I’ve been revisiting ‘The Enlightenment’ and ‘Three Magic Words’ and some interesting ideas came to mind.

Elaborate

Imagine one entity encrypting its entire being into an infinite sea of data, mostly incomprehensible, some coming together in a meaningful way, for example, a human being capable of experiencing consciousness. The consciousness is capable of wielding the keys necessary to decrypt certain information relevant to, yet outside the parameters of the data which constitutes its individual identity, seemingly separate from the whole.

The Enlightenment by Alan Holmes suggests the key is certainty. Certainty of reality unrecognizable by our current perspective. Certainty that it can be decrypted into direct experience. Or rather, certainty that imaginal experience is equivalent to direct experience. Which in my opinion implies direct experience is merely imagination as well, essentially a dream, simulation, or perhaps just a reality far more malleable than we have come to accept.

Three Magic Words by Uell S. Andersen suggests the key is... the three magic words: “I am God”. Knowledge of the self as God being a key makes sense, assuming the idea of encryption holds true. In this scenario I AM is utterly confusing itself to the point of hopelessness yet at the root of every experience there it is, I AM. And within I AM is all possibility.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on April 22, 2021, 11:22:21 AM
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Do the keys function as encryption keys?

I’ve been revisiting ‘The Enlightenment’ and ‘Three Magic Words’ and some interesting ideas came to mind.

Elaborate

Imagine one entity encrypting its entire being into an infinite sea of data, mostly incomprehensible, some coming together in a meaningful way, for example, a human being capable of experiencing consciousness. The consciousness is capable of wielding the keys necessary to decrypt certain information relevant to, yet outside the parameters of the data which constitutes its individual identity, seemingly separate from the whole.

The Enlightenment by Alan Holmes suggests the key is certainty. Certainty of reality unrecognizable by our current perspective. Certainty that it can be decrypted into direct experience. Or rather, certainty that imaginal experience is equivalent to direct experience. Which in my opinion implies direct experience is merely imagination as well, essentially a dream, simulation, or perhaps just a reality far more malleable than we have come to accept.

Three Magic Words by Uell S. Andersen suggests the key is... the three magic words: “I am God”. Knowledge of the self as God being a key makes sense, assuming the idea of encryption holds true. In this scenario I AM is utterly confusing itself to the point of hopelessness yet at the root of every experience there it is, I AM. And within I AM is all possibility.

Your first paragraph describes what physicists call the quantum wave function.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on April 23, 2021, 04:21:39 PM
is nature, the oldest book, the book of lock and key?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on April 23, 2021, 09:28:41 PM
https://youtu.be/bZ4NTdSK5ac
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Post by: Grass is Green on April 23, 2021, 11:59:21 PM
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is nature, the oldest book, the book of lock and key?


Book, from the word for beech, the wood on which runes were inscribed.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: stgermaine on April 26, 2021, 11:52:59 AM
The city of the nine gates - the material body
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers 2.0 on May 13, 2021, 01:04:24 PM
Dimensions are really density. The higher something goes the more complex it becomes to keep things simple and vice versa.

When someone says that you have a “solid idea” you should wonder what density it was conceived in.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: DimensionsOfYou on May 13, 2021, 04:02:27 PM
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Dimensions are really density. The higher something goes the more complex it becomes to keep things simple and vice versa.

When someone says that you have a “solid idea” you should wonder what density it was conceived in.
Truth is simple. If it was complex everyone would understand it.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers 2.0 on June 27, 2021, 08:46:06 AM
Has anyone recently had any revelations in regards to the topic of this thread?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Undestroyer on June 27, 2021, 03:45:17 PM
the war is on for the digital reality
most just consent their data away for use of some service.
it does not have to be that way.

migrating everyone to digital reality then is like sticking everyone in a camp where consent is easilly given and the constitutiin does not seem to exist.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on June 28, 2021, 02:23:26 AM
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the war is on for the digital reality
most just consent their data away for use of some service.
it does not have to be that way.

migrating everyone to digital reality then is like sticking everyone in a camp where consent is easilly given and the constitutiin does not seem to exist.

The legal fiction is being upgraded to the avatar, and your virtual self will become more real than your physical self.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on June 28, 2021, 02:47:29 AM
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Has anyone recently had any revelations in regards to the topic of this thread?

“If we’re going to play, you’ll have to start.”

Where do you feel stuck?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers 2.0 on June 28, 2021, 03:01:44 AM
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Has anyone recently had any revelations in regards to the topic of this thread?

“If we’re going to play, you’ll have to start.”

Where do you feel stuck?

I wouldn't say I feel stuck its more like, at least how I am feeling is that I am looking for something 'new' in regards to this and the forum itself in general. I thought what better thread than this one and I need something 'new' if that makes sense.

I feel like I've fairly understood what this was all about a while ago but maybe there is something to this I don't understand. Really I was more curious about anything 'new' that could be related to something groundbreaking but also what you guys have come up with recently. I really would dislike to see this topic die in any way shape or form it has so much potential.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on June 28, 2021, 03:16:36 AM
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Has anyone recently had any revelations in regards to the topic of this thread?

“If we’re going to play, you’ll have to start.”

Where do you feel stuck?

I wouldn't say I feel stuck its more like, at least how I am feeling is that I am looking for something 'new' in regards to this and the forum itself in general. I thought what better thread than this one and I need something 'new' if that makes sense.

I feel like I've fairly understood what this was all about a while ago but maybe there is something to this I don't understand. Really I was more curious about anything 'new' that could be related to something groundbreaking but also what you guys have come up with recently. I really would dislike to see this topic die in any way shape or form it has so much potential.

To me the most intriguing mystery here is the two-key lock. What is the nature of the two keys? What is their proportion to each other? The heart and the mind?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers 2.0 on June 29, 2021, 11:41:17 AM
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Has anyone recently had any revelations in regards to the topic of this thread?

“If we’re going to play, you’ll have to start.”

Where do you feel stuck?

I wouldn't say I feel stuck its more like, at least how I am feeling is that I am looking for something 'new' in regards to this and the forum itself in general. I thought what better thread than this one and I need something 'new' if that makes sense.

I feel like I've fairly understood what this was all about a while ago but maybe there is something to this I don't understand. Really I was more curious about anything 'new' that could be related to something groundbreaking but also what you guys have come up with recently. I really would dislike to see this topic die in any way shape or form it has so much potential.

To me the most intriguing mystery here is the two-key lock. What is the nature of the two keys? What is their proportion to each other? The heart and the mind?

Well the basics of the 'two key lock' is that one key is high and the other is low. While both are internalized aspects usually found externalized I wouldn't doubt that some may find a variant of this 'low key' if they go to the actual Loki entity/deity. He will give you what you want but keep in mind this is Loki we are talking about. Loki is Loki.

When put in the perspective (one anyway) of music two notes are separated by gap. One note is a higher frequency than the other (so consider one the 'low').
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Zelezny on June 29, 2021, 02:32:09 PM
This thread seems very relevant: https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4284327/pg1

Bridging the 'dream' and waking world. Meditation will do this eventually but at one time we had the Mi - Sol polyphonic singing can induce your perspective in a quicker fashion.
Title: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: The Watchers 2.0 on June 29, 2021, 08:36:35 PM
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This thread seems very relevant: https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4284327/pg1

Bridging the 'dream' and waking world. Meditation will do this eventually but at one time we had the Mi - Sol polyphonic singing can induce your perspective in a quicker fashion.

Bob Frissell talks about the 'Blue Kachina'. I just finished reading that part of the book.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ad meliora on July 18, 2021, 12:54:44 AM
Reading the Book of loch and key, riding the waves of mystery

Key, a coral reef partially exposed. Can look like a key from above
Qi, vital energy force that can be channeled through the loch, the waters of E-motion

Loch is named as such as it is locked in by land, at least partially. Can be called an arm of the sea.

Use your qi to lock on to your target with your arm of the sea.

Masculine and feminine. The aspects of creation. Key goes in any lock; master lock.
Loch opened by any qi; useless
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ad meliora on July 18, 2021, 12:57:27 AM
The two master qi's can be used. Either one works. Left hand or right hand?
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 18, 2021, 04:55:34 AM
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The two master qi's can be used. Either one works. Left hand or right hand?

Last time everyone: THERE IS ONLY ONE MAGIK/QI/KA/AETHER/WHOOSEIWHATZ

NO LEFT NO RIGHT just power.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Ad meliora on July 18, 2021, 12:15:07 PM
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The two master qi's can be used. Either one works. Left hand or right hand?

Last time everyone: THERE IS ONLY ONE MAGIK/QI/KA/AETHER/WHOOSEIWHATZ

NO LEFT NO RIGHT just power.

But the destination can be reached by more than one path. That was more my point; not that the end result is different. Its more a matter of preference in my experience, as to the path you tread.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Grass is Green on July 19, 2021, 10:37:48 PM
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The two master qi's can be used. Either one works. Left hand or right hand?

Last time everyone: THERE IS ONLY ONE MAGIK/QI/KA/AETHER/WHOOSEIWHATZ

NO LEFT NO RIGHT just power.

But the destination can be reached by more than one path. That was more my point; not that the end result is different. Its more a matter of preference in my experience, as to the path you tread.

Intention is to qi what frequency is to amplitude.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 19, 2021, 10:47:40 PM
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The two master qi's can be used. Either one works. Left hand or right hand?

Last time everyone: THERE IS ONLY ONE MAGIK/QI/KA/AETHER/WHOOSEIWHATZ

NO LEFT NO RIGHT just power.

But the destination can be reached by more than one path. That was more my point; not that the end result is different. Its more a matter of preference in my experience, as to the path you tread.

Indeed it is that and what you wish to incur on the road
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: sheepdog on July 20, 2021, 10:30:31 PM
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The two master qi's can be used. Either one works. Left hand or right hand?

Last time everyone: THERE IS ONLY ONE MAGIK/QI/KA/AETHER/WHOOSEIWHATZ

NO LEFT NO RIGHT just power.
lol still kickin ass takin names . Boss knows folks dunno where those other  ideas come from.
Just wait till you experience it for your self then you can reply. There is a tried and true method that I used . Ok prayers for the boss a good man. Sixes Nines All you good people.
Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: stgermaine on July 24, 2021, 05:11:26 AM
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Title: Re: Key#1(and a challenge to those with eyes to see)
Post by: ephemeron on July 25, 2021, 06:14:28 PM
https://youtu.be/uSpIaCf47lc