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Mock Debate: Social Injustice
OP: June 05, 2020, 03:02:17 AM
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The events happening in the U.S. right now manifest a war to conquer and subjugate the minds of the people to a web of deceit and oppression.


I will take a position, and I want you all to argue the counterpoint using facts.


Here it is: America is a racist country. White privilege is real and omnipresent. People of color are oppressed by systemic racism.


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Mock Debate: Social Injustice
#1: June 05, 2020, 08:55:24 AM
Article in SI By Rosenberg "Drew brees  a Racist (suggesting unity) doesn't get to call that play etc etc in essence you white boy don't get to tell blacks/vibrants how to behave deeming it offensive for Any White racist to dictate negro policy ..Unfortunately he offered an  addendum apology uh oh now they'll double down on the man .He's toast career gone. Celebrating diversity is a death knell for any whites foolish enough to accept this .
In Sci Fi writing they've given this  negro broad jemisin the best novel  Hugo award 3 years in a row another bad move Negros doubling down again Soooo
Sci Fi org  promising money to any sort of ne gro causes to "make up" for past transgressions one book company should agree to only publish negro SCi Fi till the vibrants decide how much is enough to placate white racism..Finally they have to grant this Negro Broad Super Status or else more looting burning . Thank you My friend !Watch your Six Stay Safe
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#2: June 05, 2020, 09:35:50 AM
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Here it is: America is a racist country. White privilege is real and omnipresent. People of color are oppressed by systemic racism.

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Mock Debate: Social Injustice
#3: June 05, 2020, 10:32:31 AM
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Practice is the key to skill.
The events happening in the U.S. right now manifest a war to conquer and subjugate the minds of the people to a web of deceit and oppression.
I will take a position, and I want you all to argue the counterpoint using facts.
Here it is: America is a racist country. White privilege is real and omnipresent. People of color are oppressed by systemic racism.
Go!
Oooh goody!  I'm your hucklebearer.  I've been pilpulling Kommie Karens on nextdoor all week.

America is a racist country.
All people groups prefer their own group to outside groups.  This is natural and part of biology.  For evidence of group preference, I present to you: Chinatown, Little Italy, Little Mogadishu, etc.  Some libtards might claim this is 'ghettoization', with which you can ask: is it still a ghetto if they CHOOSE to live amongst their own?  Isn't it racist of them to only want to live with their own kind?  A recent headline in the Los Angeles area shows Mexican gangs 'ethnically cleansing' Boyle Heights of anyone other than Hispanics.  Does this fit their definition of racism?  If not, why?

Aside: if you ever talk to black Americans who feel like they don't belong in America, urge them to watch videos of the black Americans who have moved back to Africa.  Their stories are truly heartwarming and uplifting.  They INSTANTLY feel a sense of belonging and happiness.  And coming from America, they are wealthier, have higher IQ's and are able to get in on the ground floor of a rapidly growing African middle class.  I really think this is a viable way forward and I enthusiastically encourage disgruntled African Americans to consider the possibilities of repatriating to the motherland.

White privilege is real and omnipresent.
Privilege is something you gift to your offspring by virtue of your good life choices.
Choose poorly and your children will be underprivileged.  If you are underprivileged, ask your mother why she chose so poorly.  Happily, 'Correct' life choices are within the reach of every American, so even if their own mother made poor life choices, they should be able to privilege their own children if they choose wisely.

Here are some good questions to throw back at that argument:
Ask them: What is privilege? 
They will say: living in a nice neighborhood, access to good schools, having nice things, having two parents, not getting harassed by the police, not getting fired, unequal hiring, people looking at you funny, people being racist towards you, etc.

Keep asking questions:
Why did that woman choose to live in that bad neighborhood?
Why was that the only place she could afford? 
Why didn't she choose to get married to a good man before bringing children into the world? 
Why didn't she choose to go to college and find a good job before she had children?
Why were those kids out at 2:00 in the morning with drunk friends in the car?
Why did they take drugs even though your workplace forbids them?
Why did they sign that usurious contract before reading the terms?
Why do they wear clothing that displays disrespect and gang affiliation?
And so on.

Note: You will usually not be able to argue with a person of color with the question method.  They will just be angry that you are attacking their mother or their shitty behavior.  But with the white libtard Karen types this at least gets them thinking.  The Karens will say: well they just need someone to SHOW them how to do this.  Bring up the myriad of programs already in place to support the underprivileged, and ask: 'How much are YOU personally willing to do?  Are you willing to take a person of color into your house to teach them the proper way?  Are you willing to spend moar of YOUR tax dollars on this problem?  We've already allocated billions.  In fact, every black person costs the taxpayer on average $750k over their lifetime.  How much more do you think we need to spend?

People of color are oppressed by systemic racism.
People of color are routinely given free housing, free food, free clothing, free education, free vocational training, free scholarships, good job opportunities and kid glove treatment.  Ask them to explain how oppression includes all of these perks.  When they claim that black people are targeted by police, bring up the fact that they disproportionately commit more crime.  When they excuse that crime as a result of being underprivileged, go back to the talking points of privilege being something your parents are responsible for, and ask why blacks choose to underprivilege their children so regularly.

You can also try to explain that their premise is flawed.  Their faulty equation is:
We are all the same/Tabula Rasa + Systemic Racism = Unequal outcomes

The flaw in this equation is that we are OBVIOUSLY NOT all the same.  Everyone can agree on that.  And from there, work on the idea that we should all be treated EQUALLY under the law. 

And from there, go to the questions:
Who writes the laws? 
Who are the judges?   
Do they represent 'white' normie America? 
Or do they represent the Elites?
Who are the rich?
What are their occupations?
Who controls the public opinion?
Who owns the media corporations?
Why would it be in their interest to show the narrative that blacks are so oppressed, when the statistics show otherwise?
We all know where this rabbit hole goes. :)
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Re: Mock Debate: Social Injustice
#4: June 06, 2020, 07:30:57 PM
I'd like to continue this, as I've wanted to do this for some time, but in a slightly different context:

America is a racist country. White privilege is real and omnipresent. People of color are oppressed by systemic racism.

(trying on my ethos)

Are you an idiot? Do you just parrot media talking points like a puppet... how is America racist? If working hard and excelling is privilege than sure "white privilege" exists. But, wouldn't it be more accurate to say that they excel because they're smart, capable, have solid families? Sounds to me like word games just to make whites look bad and hate themselves. Systemic racism is a JOKE, more whites are killed by police than blacks.

How about you prove to me we're racist, white privilege is real, and there is "systemic racism."
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#5: June 06, 2020, 09:42:54 PM
“White supremacy” is a slur to inflict supremacy over whites.

If america is so racist why are millions of non whites flocking here?

Is there “Han supremacy” in China?
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#6: June 06, 2020, 09:47:20 PM
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“White supremacy” is a slur to inflict supremacy over whites.

If america is so racist why are millions of non whites flocking here?

Is there “Han supremacy” in China?

Damn I like that line about immigrants.
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#7: June 07, 2020, 02:16:49 AM
I'll throw my hat in the ring. America is a racist nation and every nation on Earth is racist what America is not however is institutionally  racist.

We've had full equality for all minorities for 50 years. There is nothing anyone cannot do because of their belief or race.

Sowell racism exist in men's Hearts it cannot exist in their actions. The go to Liberal argument is the Ku Klux Klan what many people don't know is the Republican party party was founded in the late 1800s in Texas by about 250 black men.

The Republican Party had over a dozen black Senators within the first few years of its formation the Democrats fear the Republican party is Growing Power so the clan was formed as a hit squad against Republicans not black men.

Because the Republican party was heavily black many black men were looking to the plan but so were many white men you ever notice how they never teach you exactly why the clan went after them it's because they were Republicans so the Ku Klux Klan was not a racist organization but a political one founded by the Democrats and the Democrats owned it and acknowledge it and the Congressional inquiry on the topic it's all in the record
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Re: Mock Debate: Social Injustice
#8: June 07, 2020, 03:31:25 AM
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I'll throw my hat in the ring. America is a racist nation and every nation on Earth is racist what America is not however is institutionally  racist.

We've had full equality for all minorities for 50 years. There is nothing anyone cannot do because of their belief or race.

Sowell racism exist in men's Hearts it cannot exist in their actions. The go to Liberal argument is the Ku Klux Klan what many people don't know is the Republican party party was founded in the late 1800s in Texas by about 250 black men.

The Republican Party had over a dozen black Senators within the first few years of its formation the Democrats fear the Republican party is Growing Power so the clan was formed as a hit squad against Republicans not black men.

Because the Republican party was heavily black many black men were looking to the plan but so were many white men you ever notice how they never teach you exactly why the clan went after them it's because they were Republicans so the Ku Klux Klan was not a racist organization but a political one founded by the Democrats and the Democrats owned it and acknowledge it and the Congressional inquiry on the topic it's all in the record

That's a pretty revealing fact and I'm sort of surprised I've never met anyone who ever even knew about this. Just goes to show you how ignorant Americans are of their own history, and we aren't even talking about anything past 100 years ago.
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#9: June 07, 2020, 12:15:37 PM
Being called  "radical" in the mid 1800s usa is the equivalent of being a "nigger lover" today. The radical Republicans were a bi racial party unheard of at the time.

The democrats desperately needed to stomp that out. Thus the kkk was born

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#10: June 07, 2020, 01:12:59 PM
The idea that there are different races or ethnic groups with different abilities that legitimises treating people worse based off their ethnicity/race has no place in our society.
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#11: June 07, 2020, 01:45:20 PM
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The idea that there are different races or ethnic groups with different abilities that legitimises treating people worse based off their ethnicity/race has no place in our society.

But theirare different races with different abilities and weaknesses and some are clearly preferable to others. Try tbis, go live in haiti let me know how long you make it
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#12: June 07, 2020, 03:30:09 PM
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The idea that there are different races or ethnic groups with different abilities that legitimises treating people worse based off their ethnicity/race has no place in our society.

But theirare different races with different abilities and weaknesses and some are clearly preferable to others. Try tbis, go live in haiti let me know how long you make it
Yes I know, was just playing the devils advocate, as this is a typical argument I hear thrown out by leftist. If you try to argue the average IQ, crime stats, difference in muscular fibre constitution(fast twitch vs slow twitch), lactose-tolerance genetics, etc you're just labelled as racist.
I'm not saying they are less worth, just that they are different.
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Re: Mock Debate: Social Injustice
#13: June 07, 2020, 03:34:49 PM
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The idea that there are different races or ethnic groups with different abilities that legitimises treating people worse based off their ethnicity/race has no place in our society.

But theirare different races with different abilities and weaknesses and some are clearly preferable to others. Try tbis, go live in haiti let me know how long you make it
Yes I know, was just playing the devils advocate, as this is a typical argument I hear thrown out by leftist. If you try to argue the average IQ, crime stats, difference in muscular fibre constitution(fast twitch vs slow twitch), lactose-tolerance genetics, etc you're just labelled as racist.
I'm not saying they are less worth, just that they are different.

Yes and they are so different that most of the other races don't want anything to do with them for the most part. I'm sure they have their place but that better not be next to me.
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#14: June 07, 2020, 06:12:07 PM
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The idea that there are different races or ethnic groups with different abilities that legitimises treating people worse based off their ethnicity/race has no place in our society.

But theirare different races with different abilities and weaknesses and some are clearly preferable to others. Try tbis, go live in haiti let me know how long you make it
Yes I know, was just playing the devils advocate, as this is a typical argument I hear thrown out by leftist. If you try to argue the average IQ, crime stats, difference in muscular fibre constitution(fast twitch vs slow twitch), lactose-tolerance genetics, etc you're just labelled as racist.
I'm not saying they are less worth, just that they are different.

So why don't we enter to Tim primitive action in the NBA for Asians? Why don't we insist on an equal number of women working in the department of sanitation on the garbage trucks? Actually I agree with you stupid Lefty let's make all jobs completely equal and insist on equal numbers of women scaling cell phone towers working in Lumber and demolition.

That usually shuts them up pretty quickly
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