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To jab or not to jab?
OP: December 02, 2020, 08:49:30 PM
Hello Brethren of NRG,

As the title says, “To jab or not to jab?”.

I’ve noticed an increasing trend in industry (especially health care), and education institutions, that many are making policies that require mandatory vaccination checklists to be completed.

Whether it be the annual flu, hep b, immune boosters, tetanus boosters, chicken pox etc. Many of these are done at a tender age through  school and what not, however some require ongoing application. 

I understand this is becoming a contentious and polarising subject matter for society. It seems the middle fence sitting is falling to the wayside (enacted through policy), and one has to either say no, or say yes.

Now, I have a close friend (let’s call him bob), who has spent the last 7 years building to a career in health care. He has reached postgraduate level of study and the institution is now requiring him to undertake a vaccination checklist requirement if he wishes to do a hospital placement and finish his degree.

Now in terms of advice, we all have our own views, however, how much of that is conjecture and how much of it is grounded in facts/solid information?

I for one am leaning towards advising him not to do it. A career is just not worth the potential irreversible complications (after all, this life is temporary). The ramifications for declining are not only personal, but one could find him ostracised and discarded with how political this issue is becoming.

He’s quite the diligent bloke and I’m sure it won’t be the end of the world for him if he was to refuse and accept that path is no longer an option. I know he values his spirit more than the material.

Having said that, it is a big decision after so much investment of finances and more importantly, time.

Obviously with this covid vaccine pending this further complicates the matter.

Research is also polarising and it seems there is a lot of propaganda out there. Discernment is needed but it can be difficult to cut the issue straight down the middle when all resources and information available seem to come from sources outside of ones self and studies that may have an agenda either for or against.

Much information for against is anecdotal with some small amount of studies indicating potential for health issues, and then we know there is a plethora of information on the for side.

At times it seems the decision is obvious, however, he asked me to consult a rag tag team of intelligent and knowledgeable humans, such as yourselves.

So comrades, hit me with what you got on this subject matter.

Cheers.
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Re: To jab or not to jab?
#1: December 02, 2020, 09:19:50 PM
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Hello Brethren of NRG,

As the title says, ďTo jab or not to jab?Ē.

Iíve noticed an increasing trend in industry (especially health care), and education institutions, that many are making policies that require mandatory vaccination checklists to be completed.

Whether it be the annual flu, hep b, immune boosters, tetanus boosters, chicken pox etc. Many of these are done at a tender age through  school and what not, however some require ongoing application. 

I understand this is becoming a contentious and polarising subject matter for society. It seems the middle fence sitting is falling to the wayside (enacted through policy), and one has to either say no, or say yes.

Now, I have a close friend (letís call him bob), who has spent the last 7 years building to a career in health care. He has reached postgraduate level of study and the institution is now requiring him to undertake a vaccination checklist requirement if he wishes to do a hospital placement and finish his degree.

Now in terms of advice, we all have our own views, however, how much of that is conjecture and how much of it is grounded in facts/solid information?

I for one am leaning towards advising him not to do it. A career is just not worth the potential irreversible complications (after all, this life is temporary). The ramifications for declining are not only personal, but one could find him ostracised and discarded with how political this issue is becoming.

Heís quite the diligent bloke and Iím sure it wonít be the end of the world for him if he was to refuse and accept that path is no longer an option. I know he values his spirit more than the material.

Having said that, it is a big decision after so much investment of finances and more importantly, time.

Obviously with this covid vaccine pending this further complicates the matter.

Research is also polarising and it seems there is a lot of propaganda out there. Discernment is needed but it can be difficult to cut the issue straight down the middle when all resources and information available seem to come from sources outside of ones self and studies that may have an agenda either for or against.

Much information for against is anecdotal with some small amount of studies indicating potential for health issues, and then we know there is a plethora of information on the for side.

At times it seems the decision is obvious, however, he asked me to consult a rag tag team of intelligent and knowledgeable humans, such as yourselves.

So comrades, hit me with what you got on this subject matter.

Cheers.
In regard to the new covid vaccines:
Even IF the vaccines aren't intended to re-write your genome to make you the perfect nigger-cattle, or render you sterile and sickly, they are at the very least (publicly) a new and experimental type of vaccine that is being rushed out without adequate study of their long-term effects for something that is lethal only a very small percentage of elderly with other health issues which should be alarming enough.
 The concern should be for when employers attempt to make it mandatory and how to get around such restrictions.

As for other vaccines, perhaps it is possible to claim some kind of religious exception?
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Re: To jab or not to jab?
#2: December 02, 2020, 09:32:28 PM
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Hello Brethren of NRG,

As the title says, ďTo jab or not to jab?Ē.

Iíve noticed an increasing trend in industry (especially health care), and education institutions, that many are making policies that require mandatory vaccination checklists to be completed.

Whether it be the annual flu, hep b, immune boosters, tetanus boosters, chicken pox etc. Many of these are done at a tender age through  school and what not, however some require ongoing application. 

I understand this is becoming a contentious and polarising subject matter for society. It seems the middle fence sitting is falling to the wayside (enacted through policy), and one has to either say no, or say yes.

Now, I have a close friend (letís call him bob), who has spent the last 7 years building to a career in health care. He has reached postgraduate level of study and the institution is now requiring him to undertake a vaccination checklist requirement if he wishes to do a hospital placement and finish his degree.

Now in terms of advice, we all have our own views, however, how much of that is conjecture and how much of it is grounded in facts/solid information?

I for one am leaning towards advising him not to do it. A career is just not worth the potential irreversible complications (after all, this life is temporary). The ramifications for declining are not only personal, but one could find him ostracised and discarded with how political this issue is becoming.

Heís quite the diligent bloke and Iím sure it wonít be the end of the world for him if he was to refuse and accept that path is no longer an option. I know he values his spirit more than the material.

Having said that, it is a big decision after so much investment of finances and more importantly, time.

Obviously with this covid vaccine pending this further complicates the matter.

Research is also polarising and it seems there is a lot of propaganda out there. Discernment is needed but it can be difficult to cut the issue straight down the middle when all resources and information available seem to come from sources outside of ones self and studies that may have an agenda either for or against.

Much information for against is anecdotal with some small amount of studies indicating potential for health issues, and then we know there is a plethora of information on the for side.

At times it seems the decision is obvious, however, he asked me to consult a rag tag team of intelligent and knowledgeable humans, such as yourselves.

So comrades, hit me with what you got on this subject matter.

Cheers.
In regard to the new covid vaccines:
Even IF the vaccines aren't intended to re-write your genome to make you the perfect nigger-cattle, or render you sterile and sickly, they are at the very least (publicly) a new and experimental type of vaccine that is being rushed out without adequate study of their long-term effects for something that is lethal only a very small percentage of elderly with other health issues which should be alarming enough.
 The concern should be for when employers attempt to make it mandatory and how to get around such restrictions.

As for other vaccines, perhaps it is possible to claim some kind of religious exception?

I hear you.

Unfortunately universities in my country have a strict policy for placement and vaccinations.

Thatís why things are becoming so polarising. The middle ground is being squashed in that regard and people have to make a choice.
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#3: December 02, 2020, 10:10:23 PM
Every vaccine is very harmful, and permentantly so... This one is absolutely new, literally untested, and mRNA were considered extremely dangerous for humans until magic covid comes along. No jab.
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#4: December 02, 2020, 10:31:16 PM
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Every vaccine is very harmful, and permentantly so... This one is absolutely new, literally untested, and mRNA were considered extremely dangerous for humans until magic covid comes along. No jab.

Thank you for your reply.

Covid aside, the issue currently appears to be the annual flu vaccine.

Olíe Bob has never got one before and never had issues with fluís and illness. For this reason, he appears very averse to starting now.

Anyone else in this boat?

Be interested to hear NRGís take on this.
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#5: December 02, 2020, 10:52:04 PM
I like to see the upside of things.

Honestly the vaccine won't stop me working unless you require it to have a bank account which is doubtful. I can work from home in entirety and I have enough skills I can do 5-6 separate things. I have zero debt and no mortgage. And if it gets to the point where you can never leave your house (I don't know how one would cope with this emotionally) without the vaccine then I could do that too.

The upside for me is I spend an hour or two a day meditating with the eventual goal of "enlightenment" which IMO seems to be the complete merging of both hemispheres in the brain and then "spiral out" completely. Sometimes I wish I could do this 24 hours a day. If I'm not allowed out of my house what else is there to do?

I don't see them allowing us to go back to normal. They are even saying if we are all vaccinated we will still have to wear face masks and social distance which is obviously ludicrous but the sheep majority don't question this. I read a thread earlier about millionaires asking how they can pay serious dough to be one of the first to get it.

Reminds me of this but masks as well as phones.


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#6: December 03, 2020, 01:33:53 AM
As most of you know, I work in the medical field and have been involved in some medical field in some capacity for close to 15 years now. So I will give you a little inside info from other medical professionals in my field, including Physicians, Paramedics, Registered Nurses, Respiratory Therapist, Physical Therapist, and Patient Care and Rad Techs. Most of them don't want the vaccine! Their logic is we've been swimming in a veritable petri dish of Covid-19 for almost a year now and haven't caught it yet, then what's the use of taking a vaccine if we've been exposed to it for almost a year and still haven't caught it.

They are going to have a hard time convincing us front-line workers to take this vaccine. It's usually pretty safe to make inferences based on a smaller population's to a larger one based on outcomes due to normal sampling distribution regardless of a population's size. Meaning if my hospital is any indication of healthcare workers not trusting and refusing the vaccine, you're looking at at least 80% non -compliance from us alone in a healthcare setting. That say's all you need to know...
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#7: December 03, 2020, 02:33:19 AM
People in my country will take the vaccine. Just make it so you canít work without it and there you have it. Those who have the capacity to think a little bit and still want to work will pay the doctor/nurse to make it seem he took the vaccine. Will never take it, if they canít get me to wear a mask still, vaccine is even further out of the question. I feel like  being in some dystopian nightmare.. years before this I was saying to people that some ďdiseaseĒ is coming and never to take any vaccine.
New restrictions put to law.. Tried to salvage the business, but these motherfuckers are destroying small businesses.. Certainly feels like a need for a reverse vaccination tool (lead) will be needed soon..
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#8: December 03, 2020, 02:50:36 PM
I also feel like they will spam us with pro vaccine advertisements directly into our subconscious via symbolism and probably shut down the internet at the same time so the populace doesn't have access to any anti-vaccine opinion.
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#9: December 03, 2020, 08:37:58 PM
Asking for a friend, eh? Yeah, sure ;-)

This has nothing to do with vaccinations. If he wants to get into a game, he has to play by the league rules. Else he can start his own game. Unfortunately in most countries you can go to prison if you get caught practicing medicine without a license.
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#10: December 03, 2020, 11:57:06 PM
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Hello Brethren of NRG,

As the title says, ďTo jab or not to jab?Ē.

Iíve noticed an increasing trend in industry (especially health care), and education institutions, that many are making policies that require mandatory vaccination checklists to be completed.

Whether it be the annual flu, hep b, immune boosters, tetanus boosters, chicken pox etc. Many of these are done at a tender age through  school and what not, however some require ongoing application. 

I understand this is becoming a contentious and polarising subject matter for society. It seems the middle fence sitting is falling to the wayside (enacted through policy), and one has to either say no, or say yes.

Now, I have a close friend (letís call him bob), who has spent the last 7 years building to a career in health care. He has reached postgraduate level of study and the institution is now requiring him to undertake a vaccination checklist requirement if he wishes to do a hospital placement and finish his degree.

Now in terms of advice, we all have our own views, however, how much of that is conjecture and how much of it is grounded in facts/solid information?

I for one am leaning towards advising him not to do it. A career is just not worth the potential irreversible complications (after all, this life is temporary). The ramifications for declining are not only personal, but one could find him ostracised and discarded with how political this issue is becoming.

Heís quite the diligent bloke and Iím sure it wonít be the end of the world for him if he was to refuse and accept that path is no longer an option. I know he values his spirit more than the material.

Having said that, it is a big decision after so much investment of finances and more importantly, time.

Obviously with this covid vaccine pending this further complicates the matter.

Research is also polarising and it seems there is a lot of propaganda out there. Discernment is needed but it can be difficult to cut the issue straight down the middle when all resources and information available seem to come from sources outside of ones self and studies that may have an agenda either for or against.

Much information for against is anecdotal with some small amount of studies indicating potential for health issues, and then we know there is a plethora of information on the for side.

At times it seems the decision is obvious, however, he asked me to consult a rag tag team of intelligent and knowledgeable humans, such as yourselves.

So comrades, hit me with what you got on this subject matter.

Cheers.

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