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Rule of Seven
OP: July 22, 2020, 05:26:30 PM
In stead of an “AMA” I’ll propose a thread which investigates the gods’ presence in fiction. It’s how I’m learning, so I know it’s possible to climb the ladder by smoke and mirrors.

One portrayal tells a story, thirty portrayals of the same energy / attitude / sequence of events tells a legend. The goal is to compile a legend used for navigating a map.

The 7 major planets are so deified because they correspond to the 7 major ”stones” of the human endocrine/nervous/electrical field. One who misunderstands Mars’ cosmic lesson will never properly navigate their Mars spinning wheel. One who combats the influence of Venus will never properly awaken their Venus spinning wheel. And so forth.

In the most New Age sense, ascendance through the Keys is directly tied to the lessons one is willing to absorb into their soul. As Damien Echols puts it, communion with higher energies who offer their own frequencies to be absorbed into the solar consciousness and transmute the soul out of its material prison.

Identifying the god behind a character is the easy part, throwing away the polarized traits and drama to discern the common denominators between portrayals demands more precision. Thus a wide portfolio of each archetype allows expanded view of the Form behind them.

The characters’ titles, occupations, actions, roles, all play a part in defining their divine archetype.

I’ll start with the “Absolutely Fabulous” Edina Monsoon. True to regicide reversal, Ms. Monsoon is the self-absorbed, hot-headed parent while her counterpart Sapphy is the cool, socially-conservative child.

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#1: July 22, 2020, 05:33:49 PM
Game of Thrones is especially relevant. As usual the cast is made of planets and constellations. Gods and Titans?

The trickster treasurer who hails the banks and means to topple the monarchy to place power in a banking republic?

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The same god who patrons money, tricksters, thieves, ((bankers)), which palmistry paints as one particular finger. They don’t call Baelish a Thumb or Ringfinger....

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#2: July 22, 2020, 05:51:01 PM
NRG gave us an invaluable template, already. We learned Eva Greene portrays the same entity across all roles. Perhaps the same could be said for Johnny Depp or Tim Burton’s productions.

Kristen Chenoweth’s stage presence often corresponds to Edina Monsoon’s attitude.

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Likewise, Wicked isn’t the only time Idina Menzel portrays the god outcast from its collective.
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Re: Rule of Seven
#3: July 22, 2020, 06:19:40 PM
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Game of Thrones is especially relevant. As usual the cast is made of planets and constellations. Gods and Titans?

The trickster treasurer who hails the banks and means to topple the monarchy to place power in a banking republic?

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The same god who patrons money, tricksters, thieves, ((bankers)), which palmistry paints as one particular finger. They don’t call Baelish a Thumb or Ringfinger....

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#4: July 22, 2020, 07:08:54 PM
The word "pinky" is derived from the Dutch word pink, meaning "little finger".
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#5: July 22, 2020, 07:33:16 PM
Jim Carrey comes off as some kind of trickster archetype. What comes to mind is his role playing 'the mask' (green mask, fedora wearing) and most of his other roles which were comedic in nature.
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#6: July 22, 2020, 07:44:49 PM
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"When in doubt, pinkie out".

Pinky and the Brain!

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I missed this link in my first post. “The Planets and their Children,” with the basic alchemical associations and the attitudes of each planet.
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#7: July 22, 2020, 07:48:38 PM
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Jim Carrey comes off as some kind of trickster archetype. What comes to mind is his role playing 'the mask' (green mask, fedora wearing) and most of his other roles which were comedic in nature.

Telling roles aside I believe he told us on live TV when he showed one of his paintings.



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Jim Carrey comes off as some kind of trickster archetype. What comes to mind is his role playing 'the mask' (green mask, fedora wearing) and most of his other roles which were comedic in nature.

Telling roles aside I believe he told us on live TV when he showed one of his paintings.



A messenger/errand boy of the gods to the people of Hell?

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#9: July 22, 2020, 09:19:03 PM
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Game of Thrones is especially relevant. As usual the cast is made of planets and constellations. Gods and Titans?

The trickster treasurer who hails the banks and means to topple the monarchy to place power in a banking republic?

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The same god who patrons money, tricksters, thieves, ((bankers)), which palmistry paints as one particular finger. They don’t call Baelish a Thumb or Ringfinger....

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#10: July 23, 2020, 01:28:17 AM
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NRG gave us an invaluable template, already. We learned Eva Greene portrays the same entity across all roles. Perhaps the same could be said for Johnny Depp or Tim Burton’s productions.

Kristen Chenoweth’s stage presence often corresponds to Edina Monsoon’s attitude.

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Likewise, Wicked isn’t the only time Idina Menzel portrays the god outcast from its collective.

I think depp is the perfect example to illustrate this concept. Look at Jack Sparrow Jack Skellingtonand willy Wonka
.. compare and contrast
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Rule of Seven
#11: July 24, 2020, 08:21:32 PM
Sparrow’s Black Pearl, Skellington’s Halloweentown, Wonka’s Factory, all depictions of the same place.

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“Good morning, Starshine! The Earth says ‘hello!’”

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“The world used to be a bigger place.”
“The world’s still the same... there’s just less in it.”

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“But I never intended all this madness, never,
And nobody really understood, how could they?
That all I ever wanted was to bring them something great.
Why does nothing ever turn out like it should?
Well, what the heck, I went and did my best,
And, by God, I really tasted something swell!
And for a moment, why, I even touched the sky!
And at least I left some stories they can tell!

And for the first time since I don't remember when,
I felt just like my old bony self again.
And I, Jack, the Pumpkin King...
That's right, I am the Pumpkin King,
And I just can't wait until next Halloween,
'Cause I've got some new ideas
That will really make them scream.
And, by God I'm really gonna give it all my might...
Uh oh, I hope there's still time to set things right.”
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#12: July 24, 2020, 08:22:48 PM
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Sparrow’s Black Pearl, Skellington’s Halloweentown, Wonka’s Factory, all depictions of the same place.

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“Good morning, Starshine! The Earth says ‘hello!’”

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“The world used to be a bigger place.”
“The world’s still the same... there’s just less in it.”

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“But I never intended all this madness, never,
And nobody really understood, how could they?
That all I ever wanted was to bring them something great.
Why does nothing ever turn out like it should?
Well, what the heck, I went and did my best,
And, by God, I really tasted something swell!
And for a moment, why, I even touched the sky!
And at least I left some stories they can tell!

And for the first time since I don't remember when,
I felt just like my old bony self again.
And I, Jack, the Pumpkin King...
That's right, I am the Pumpkin King,
And I just can't wait until next Halloween,
'Cause I've got some new ideas
That will really make them scream.
And, by God I'm really gonna give it all my might...
Uh oh, I hope there's still time to set things right.”

That's a great jumping off point. Their also not three seperate characters but 3 aspects of one character.
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#13: July 24, 2020, 09:42:01 PM
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“But I never intended all this madness, never,
And nobody really understood, how could they?
That all I ever wanted was to bring them something great.
Why does nothing ever turn out like it should?
Well, what the heck, I went and did my best,
And, by God, I really tasted something swell!
And for a moment, why, I even touched the sky!
And at least I left some stories they can tell!

And for the first time since I don't remember when,
I felt just like my old bony self again.
And I, Jack, the Pumpkin King...
That's right, I am the Pumpkin King,
And I just can't wait until next Halloween,
'Cause I've got some new ideas
That will really make them scream.
And, by God I'm really gonna give it all my might...
Uh oh, I hope there's still time to set things right.”

This reminded me of Kid Loki in 'Journey into Mystery'.
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Rule of Seven
#14: July 24, 2020, 09:54:16 PM
Sparrow is more trickster than hero. He mediates between male and female, Will and Elizabeth, Henry and Carina. Master of disguise and deceit. Jack never wins directly, always through another or by his environment. He nominates a female for “pirate king” and he’s antithesis to his father Teague, keeper of the codex, the law-man or judge.

Skellington is anti-hero. He’s dissatisfied with his reality so he leaves it behind in his dark night of the soul. He discovers something beyond that original reality. His fantasy takes precedence over reality, so he decides to reverse the order of things to better suit the other world. His savior complex causes destruction, he values his illusion above his nature.

I need to rewatch the Burton Wonka but he’s the aspect bringing souls into his “factory” world? They each receive a golden ticket, a soul, but not all of them deserve it. The factory tempts their flaws, chews up and spits out the unworthy. The golden ticket that completes the game achieves the “Wonkavator” box that “goes up, down, sideways and every other which way you can think of going.”
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