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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#15: August 02, 2020, 09:51:03 AM
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What's so evil about "Hook"? Seems more of a warning to anyone awake enough to notice it more than anything else. But warnings aren't usually evil.

The letter J is a hook. They're not the bluish community

I can see that. Hadn't considered that use if the word before.

The more obvious meaning to me is that the song is saying that modern music is a trap. It has the trimmings of philosophy though really it is little more than musical tricks to pull the attention of the listener. Yet, he (as the musician) continues to utilize the trick for financial benefit though internally it causes him to feel anger and destructive towards his listeners.

The music video them expands from critiquing just the music industry and instead critiques entertainment and politics.

It's a giant fuck you to his listeners, and it's revealing of the music industry. But I don't think that makes it evil. I see it is revelatory. And I'm personally just a bit embarrassed that with how many times I listened to this song growing up and I never really put two and two together until I was older.

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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#16: August 02, 2020, 10:58:54 AM
I don't see it as a fuck you...

Suck it in, suck it in, suck it in
If you're Rin Tin Tin or Anne Boleyn
Make a desperate move or else you'll win
And then begin to see
What you're doing to me
This MTV is not for free
It's so PC it's killing me
So desperately I sing to thee of love
Sure but also rage and hate and pain and fear of self
And I can't keep these feeling on the shelf
I've tried, well no, in fact I lied
Could be financial suicide but I've got too much pride inside
To hide or slide
I'll do as I'll decide and let it ride till until I've died
And only then shall I abide by this tide
Of catchy little tunes
Of hip three minute diddies
I wanna bust all your balloons

He's revealing the magic(k) of the music and refusing to play by their rules.
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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#17: August 02, 2020, 11:13:47 AM
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I don't see it as a fuck you...

Suck it in, suck it in, suck it in
If you're Rin Tin Tin or Anne Boleyn
Make a desperate move or else you'll win
And then begin to see
What you're doing to me
This MTV is not for free
It's so PC it's killing me
So desperately I sing to thee of love
Sure but also rage and hate and pain and fear of self
And I can't keep these feeling on the shelf
I've tried, well no, in fact I lied
Could be financial suicide but I've got too much pride inside
To hide or slide
I'll do as I'll decide and let it ride till until I've died
And only then shall I abide by this tide
Of catchy little tunes
Of hip three minute diddies
I wanna bust all your balloons

He's revealing the magic(k) of the music and refusing to play by their rules.

But what if he isn't refusing to play by there rules at all? He's just telling the listener exactly what the rules are.

"When I'm feeling stuck and need a buck I don't rely on luck because..." (I go play by the rules I've discovered)
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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#18: August 02, 2020, 02:28:32 PM
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I don't see it as a fuck you...

Suck it in, suck it in, suck it in
If you're Rin Tin Tin or Anne Boleyn
Make a desperate move or else you'll win
And then begin to see
What you're doing to me
This MTV is not for free
It's so PC it's killing me
So desperately I sing to thee of love
Sure but also rage and hate and pain and fear of self
And I can't keep these feeling on the shelf
I've tried, well no, in fact I lied
Could be financial suicide but I've got too much pride inside
To hide or slide
I'll do as I'll decide and let it ride till until I've died
And only then shall I abide by this tide
Of catchy little tunes
Of hip three minute diddies
I wanna bust all your balloons

He's revealing the magic(k) of the music and refusing to play by their rules.

So interesting I've had this very song in my head the past several days. Don't know the how or why.  Just John popper and those guitar harmonics with the harmonica in orchestra with the lyrics.  Was not a Blues travel or person growing up at all. The song had so much play back when I must have absorbed enough of the song to replicate (most of ) it from recall.  But I thought the name of the song was "heart brings you back" (most likely because that is the 'hook' in the song"), and chalked it up to "the movie Kingpin must have been ending when I came into a room recently"...  For those that don't know the band dressed Ahmish. Play a song as the credits roll in that movie.

Looking at the content of the lyrics now, and the fact it came up here of all places, I will. Have to accept being flummoxed and stop writing it off
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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#19: August 02, 2020, 06:37:04 PM
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What's so evil about "Hook"? Seems more of a warning to anyone awake enough to notice it more than anything else. But warnings aren't usually evil.

The letter J is a hook. They're not the bluish community

I can see that. Hadn't considered that use if the word before.

The more obvious meaning to me is that the song is saying that modern music is a trap. It has the trimmings of philosophy though really it is little more than musical tricks to pull the attention of the listener. Yet, he (as the musician) continues to utilize the trick for financial benefit though internally it causes him to feel anger and destructive towards his listeners.

The music video them expands from critiquing just the music industry and instead critiques entertainment and politics.

It's a giant fuck you to his listeners, and it's revealing of the music industry. But I don't think that makes it evil. I see it is revelatory. And I'm personally just a bit embarrassed that with how many times I listened to this song growing up and I never really put two and two together until I was older.

Everything in hollywood and music functions on 2 levels, the ostensible and the covert
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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#20: August 02, 2020, 06:38:44 PM
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I don't see it as a fuck you...

Suck it in, suck it in, suck it in
If you're Rin Tin Tin or Anne Boleyn
Make a desperate move or else you'll win
And then begin to see
What you're doing to me
This MTV is not for free
It's so PC it's killing me
So desperately I sing to thee of love
Sure but also rage and hate and pain and fear of self
And I can't keep these feeling on the shelf
I've tried, well no, in fact I lied
Could be financial suicide but I've got too much pride inside
To hide or slide
I'll do as I'll decide and let it ride till until I've died
And only then shall I abide by this tide
Of catchy little tunes
Of hip three minute diddies
I wanna bust all your balloons

He's revealing the magic(k) of the music and refusing to play by their rules.

But what if he isn't refusing to play by there rules at all? He's just telling the listener exactly what the rules are.

"When I'm feeling stuck and need a buck I don't rely on luck because..." (I go play by the rules I've discovered)

Bingo..

"If you want power in this world you go to the source of power in this world"
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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#21: August 03, 2020, 09:28:55 PM
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Everything in hollywood and music functions on 2 levels, the ostensible and the covert

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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#22: August 03, 2020, 09:33:26 PM
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Everything in hollywood and music functions on 2 levels, the ostensible and the covert

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Thank you, though i think most here are familiar with vc... what brings you here..
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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#23: August 03, 2020, 10:11:01 PM
I'm not affiliated with VC, I am just a fan of it.

My primary interest in occult type subjects is because the 'elites', or whatever term you prefer for them, seem interested in such stuff. When the media is as obviously dishonest as they are now, and government agencies aren't any better, I guess I am just hoping to glean some hints as to what is really going on in the world.

I discovered this site a long time ago, and would browse to it to see what people were posting. I joined today in order to follow links people were posting in some of the threads, which you can't do if you aren't logged in.
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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#24: August 04, 2020, 12:17:32 AM
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I'm not affiliated with VC, I am just a fan of it.

My primary interest in occult type subjects is because the 'elites', or whatever term you prefer for them, seem interested in such stuff. When the media is as obviously dishonest as they are now, and government agencies aren't any better, I guess I am just hoping to glean some hints as to what is really going on in the world.

I discovered this site a long time ago, and would browse to it to see what people were posting. I joined today in order to follow links people were posting in some of the threads, which you can't do if you aren't logged in.

Well I'm glad you decide to sign up and as I always say it doesn't really matter if you believe in magic because the elites do LOL
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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#25: August 04, 2020, 12:47:17 AM
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I'm not affiliated with VC, I am just a fan of it.

My primary interest in occult type subjects is because the 'elites', or whatever term you prefer for them, seem interested in such stuff. When the media is as obviously dishonest as they are now, and government agencies aren't any better, I guess I am just hoping to glean some hints as to what is really going on in the world.

I discovered this site a long time ago, and would browse to it to see what people were posting. I joined today in order to follow links people were posting in some of the threads, which you can't do if you aren't logged in.

I remember having the same inclination to take occult research more seriously after being exposed and learning some of the workings of the elites, "it doesn't matter if it's real or not, since they believe it, it has to be important".
but now my thinking is that there's a need to go beyond research, along the lines of "if the elites are doing this(and have been doing this for who knows how long), and there's an actual effect, then there's something real to it and it works", which basically means that it's not just researching, but having an actual "occult", ritualistic practice, actually doing the work itself and making an effect into your reality.

what I'm trying to say is that to change from being a spectator to a "playing" character there's a need of breaking down your previous "beliefs" and mental models of the world that you build of how reality is supposed to work, because they hold you back by making you look at what the elites do in a simplistic way, missing the bigger picture

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The Most Evil Song in the World
#26: August 04, 2020, 02:13:56 AM
I suppose I should be a bit more forthcoming about my past and present interests in the occult. When I was younger (teens, early twenties) I read a bit on it -The Meaning of Witchcraft, I tried to read The Golden Bough, but the copy I got was an abridged version that was probably only good as a reference to someone who had read the uncut version, one of Carlos Castaneda's books (don't remember which, I didn't finish it though), plus at least one fairly comprehensive book on Kabbalah, but I can't remember the title. A friend of mine had the Crowley tarot deck, and I read the accompanying Book of Thoth that came with it.

Pretty sure I read more along those lines, but it was a while ago. Plus I read various stuff that I would regard as of similar interest, like the "Necronomicon" that came out in the 1980's, that is about Sumerian gods, Joseph Campbell's Power of Myth (as well as watching the TV special of same name).

More recently I have been influenced by Vigilant Citizen, and things more about occult signaling and secret societies, including a book called Occult Theocrasy, written in the 1920's or 30's by the wife of the then Marquist of Queensbury. That book is all about how secret societies recruit, groom and control their members for political effect. And that is what I am mainly focusing on now.

I am not really one for drawing diagrams in the dirt and chanting to the air, but I did attend what I would best describe as a demonstration of initiation, that was conducted by a venerable British lady at the Irish Cultural center in Chicago. A friend much more into occult things than I, talked me into attending. I say it was a demonstration of initiation, because I did not actually join any society, but looking back now, after having read Occult Theocrasy, I imagine initiations are -if done by someone who knows what they are doing- at least partially similar. It was a powerful experience, even if I was just a passive witness to it. Of course people who join secret societies also probably end up doing or saying things in front of witnesses, that can be used against them later if their society is ever unhappy with them.

In short, actually practicing ritual is not my focus at the moment, but I am open to guidance in that area - if you know of a good starting reference, I'd be willing to check it out.
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Re: The Most Evil Song in the World
#27: August 04, 2020, 02:25:49 AM
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I suppose I should be a bit more forthcoming about my past and present interests in the occult. When I was younger (teens, early twenties) I read a bit on it -The Meaning of Witchcraft, I tried to read The Golden Bough, but the copy I got was an abridged version that was probably only good as a reference to someone who had read the uncut version, one of Carlos Castaneda's books (don't remember which, I didn't finish it though), plus at least one fairly comprehensive book on Kabbalah, but I can't remember the title. A friend of mine had the Crowley tarot deck, and I read the accompanying Book of Thoth that came with it.

Pretty sure I read more along those lines, but it was a while ago. Plus I read various stuff that I would regard as of similar interest, like the "Necronomicon" that came out in the 1980's, that is about Sumerian gods, Joseph Campbell's Power of Myth (as well as watching the TV special of same name).

More recently I have been influenced by Vigilant Citizen, and things more about occult signaling and secret societies, including a book called Occult Theocrasy, written in the 1920's or 30's by the wife of the then Marquist of Queensbury. That book is all about how secret societies recruit, groom and control their members for political effect. And that is what I am mainly focusing on now.

I am not really one for drawing diagrams in the dirt and chanting to the air, but I did attend what I would best describe as a demonstration of initiation, that was conducted by a venerable British lady at the Irish Cultural center in Chicago. A friend much more into occult things than I, talked me into attending. I say it was a demonstration of initiation, because I did not actually join any society, but looking back now, after having read Occult Theocrasy, I imagine initiations are -if done by someone who knows what they are doing- at least partially similar. It was a powerful experience, even if I was just a passive witness to it. Of course people who join secret societies also probably end up doing or saying things in front of witnesses, that can be used against them later if their society is ever unhappy with them.

In short, actually practicing ritual is not my focus at the moment, but I am open to guidance in that area - if you know of a good starting reference, I'd be willing to check it out.

The books by Ophiel are great, and they've been recommended here before.

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I am not really one for drawing diagrams in the dirt and chanting to the air, but I did attend what I would best describe as a demonstration of initiation, that was conducted by a venerable British lady at the Irish Cultural center in Chicago.

Keep in mind what Crowley says here
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"In this book it is spoken of the Sephiroth and the Paths; of Spirits and Conjurations; of Gods, Spheres, Planes, and many other things which may or may not exist.
It is immaterial whether these exist or not. By doing certain things certain results will follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them."
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#28: August 04, 2020, 02:36:37 AM
Thank you for the recommendation. Art and Practice of Creative Visualization looks interesting, I'll start with that one.
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#29: August 04, 2020, 02:48:29 AM
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Thank you for the recommendation. Art and Practice of Creative Visualization looks interesting, I'll start with that one.

That's the canon of manifestation
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