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The occult was being taught to us as children

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Never liked jack and the beanstalk as a kid. This occult lens over children's stories rejuvenates my interest in folklore. Those slippery b@astards have their hand in everything or so it seems. My understanding was subversion occurred when disney turned a folk tale into a full feature film. Reading that breakdown was like watching Ramsay slice and dice a three Michelin star dish: efficient, impressive, and masterful.

Gotta bump this thread to keep it going.

The Itsy Bitsy Spider
Three Men in a Tub
Row Row Row Your Boat
etc.

All have occult meaning.

I appreciate your post, grass. Row row row your boat and itsy bitsy spider have covered here, but what about three men in a tub?

Didn't hear that tub one growing up. Why do some say maids and others men? The butcher, the baker, and candlestick maker remind me of eyes wide shut parties: they all serve the same master.
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Never liked jack and the beanstalk as a kid. This occult lens over children's stories rejuvenates my interest in folklore. Those slippery b@astards have their hand in everything or so it seems. My understanding was subversion occurred when disney turned a folk tale into a full feature film. Reading that breakdown was like watching Ramsay slice and dice a three Michelin star dish: efficient, impressive, and masterful.

Gotta bump this thread to keep it going.

The Itsy Bitsy Spider
Three Men in a Tub
Row Row Row Your Boat
etc.

All have occult meaning.

We are the spiders and Rho meson particles to put it simply.

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Never liked jack and the beanstalk as a kid. This occult lens over children's stories rejuvenates my interest in folklore. Those slippery b@astards have their hand in everything or so it seems. My understanding was subversion occurred when disney turned a folk tale into a full feature film. Reading that breakdown was like watching Ramsay slice and dice a three Michelin star dish: efficient, impressive, and masterful.

Gotta bump this thread to keep it going.

The Itsy Bitsy Spider
Three Men in a Tub
Row Row Row Your Boat
etc.

All have occult meaning.

I appreciate your post, grass. Row row row your boat and itsy bitsy spider have covered here, but what about three men in a tub?

Didn't hear that tub one growing up. Why do some say maids and others men? The butcher, the baker, and candlestick maker remind me of eyes wide shut parties: they all serve the same master.

Exactly. Ostensibly disparate groups identified by their common trade, that are actually quite entwined in private.
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Never liked jack and the beanstalk as a kid. This occult lens over children's stories rejuvenates my interest in folklore. Those slippery b@astards have their hand in everything or so it seems. My understanding was subversion occurred when disney turned a folk tale into a full feature film. Reading that breakdown was like watching Ramsay slice and dice a three Michelin star dish: efficient, impressive, and masterful.

Gotta bump this thread to keep it going.

The Itsy Bitsy Spider
Three Men in a Tub
Row Row Row Your Boat
etc.

All have occult meaning.

We are the spiders and Rho meson particles to put it simply.


They didn't want to sing, "row, row, row your merkaba."
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Gonna sound absurd but reminded me of a past life of being raised as a druid funny enough. Cobble stone huts of books to read and strange symbolic lessons I was taught. One included a dead tree and making a noose and then chanting some phrases while keeping the noose on your neck, then taking it off.(not tight though) Had to do with a warning on what not to do I think, lessons were hands on and very visual, which weirdly enough suits the way I learn even in this life. Plus I was bare foot in a black cloak as well which I find very stereotypical.

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Gonna sound absurd but reminded me of a past life of being raised as a druid funny enough. Cobble stone huts of books to read and strange symbolic lessons I was taught. One included a dead tree and making a noose and then chanting some phrases while keeping the noose on your neck, then taking it off.(not tight though) Had to do with a warning on what not to do I think, lessons were hands on and very visual, which weirdly enough suits the way I learn even in this life. Plus I was bare foot in a black cloak as well which I find very stereotypical.

Did you happen to look and see if there is record of that ritual being performed, where and when?
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Apologies if I missed something but who exactly is Jack supposed to be?

No need to apologize, we are all here to learn. The name Jack is often used to name trickster and a thief. And at the end of this story, a carrier of light.

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This is what really confused me. A carrier of light at the end of his story? How does this mesh with Nick suggesting that Jack is supposed to be a "Jewish" thief? I'm having trouble reconciling carrier of light and jack also being conniving and malevolent.
Was I just not understanding Nick to be cynical?

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Apologies if I missed something but who exactly is Jack supposed to be?

No need to apologize, we are all here to learn. The name Jack is often used to name trickster and a thief. And at the end of this story, a carrier of light.

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This is what really confused me. A carrier of light at the end of his story? How does this mesh with Nick suggesting that Jack is supposed to be a "Jewish" thief? I'm having trouble reconciling carrier of light and jack also being conniving and malevolent.
Was I just not understanding Nick to be cynical?

Why do you think.of light as positive?

What was the default state of the universe

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In the TV show Lost, Jack Shephard has a tattoo that says "He walks amongst us, but he is not one of us.".  At the end of the show, he literally becomes a carrier of Light.

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Apologies if I missed something but who exactly is Jack supposed to be?

No need to apologize, we are all here to learn. The name Jack is often used to name trickster and a thief. And at the end of this story, a carrier of light.

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This is what really confused me. A carrier of light at the end of his story? How does this mesh with Nick suggesting that Jack is supposed to be a "Jewish" thief? I'm having trouble reconciling carrier of light and jack also being conniving and malevolent.
Was I just not understanding Nick to be cynical?

Why do you think.of light as positive?

What was the default state of the universe

I think I'm taking a personification angle. I understand what you're suggesting: "Light" means knowledge here.
But, yeah, contrast is what really animates things. What is Light without Darkness?

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Apologies if I missed something but who exactly is Jack supposed to be?

No need to apologize, we are all here to learn. The name Jack is often used to name trickster and a thief. And at the end of this story, a carrier of light.

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This is what really confused me. A carrier of light at the end of his story? How does this mesh with Nick suggesting that Jack is supposed to be a "Jewish" thief? I'm having trouble reconciling carrier of light and jack also being conniving and malevolent.
Was I just not understanding Nick to be cynical?

Why do you think.of light as positive?

What was the default state of the universe

I think I'm taking a personification angle. I understand what you're suggesting: "Light" means knowledge here.
But, yeah, contrast is what really animates things. What is Light without Darkness?

More importantly, stripped of stigma,  what do the vast number of humans find more instinctively comforting, safe and tranquil

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Apologies if I missed something but who exactly is Jack supposed to be?

No need to apologize, we are all here to learn. The name Jack is often used to name trickster and a thief. And at the end of this story, a carrier of light.

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This is what really confused me. A carrier of light at the end of his story? How does this mesh with Nick suggesting that Jack is supposed to be a "Jewish" thief? I'm having trouble reconciling carrier of light and jack also being conniving and malevolent.
Was I just not understanding Nick to be cynical?

Why do you think.of light as positive?

What was the default state of the universe

I think I'm taking a personification angle. I understand what you're suggesting: "Light" means knowledge here.
But, yeah, contrast is what really animates things. What is Light without Darkness?

More importantly, stripped of stigma,  what do the vast number of humans find more instinctively comforting, safe and tranquil


And to which are we conditioned to flock toward in times of uncertainty, such as right after death?
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Who sleeps with all of their lights turned on?   :o

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Who sleeps with all of their lights turned on?   :o

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Thus Lucifer/Prometheus being a deceiver, eh?
I'll admit, it's difficult at times to change the dial between here and other places. Having to put more effort in to thinking about what you guys are talking about is still alluring to me, even after a couple of years of lurking around.

 

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