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The occult was being taught to us as children

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Now that we know who any character named Jack is supposed to be, what is really being depicted in the story of Jack and the Beanstalk?
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Apologies if I missed something but who exactly is Jack supposed to be?

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Now that we know who any character named Jack is supposed to be, what is really being depicted in the story of Jack and the Beanstalk?

Human beings=beans
Giants eat beans

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How many stories deal with orphans?
Orphan and offering share a root

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How many stories deal with orphans?
Orphan and offering share a root

Disney loves to make movies about kids with deceased parents.

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I listened to the audio version of Will Durrant's The Story of Civilization about a year ago.

In the section on England I was very, very surprised at how many times the person behind a failed revolution or uprising was named Jack.

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Apologies if I missed something but who exactly is Jack supposed to be?

No need to apologize, we are all here to learn. The name Jack is often used to name trickster and a thief. And at the end of this story, a carrier of light.

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Now that we know who any character named Jack is supposed to be, what is really being depicted in the story of Jack and the Beanstalk?

Human beings=beans
Giants eat beans

Jack stole the golden goose from the giant and brought it back down to this world. But he wasn't punished.
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Now that we know who any character named Jack is supposed to be, what is really being depicted in the story of Jack and the Beanstalk?

Human beings=beans
Giants eat beans

Jack stole the golden goose from the giant and brought it back down to this world. But he wasn't punished.
Why not, do you imagine?

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So in the original (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.)

  Jack steals first gold coins than a goose that lays golden eggs than a magic harp.

He shows up to the giants house begs the wife for food, is fed and his from the giant thus given safety and each of 3x rewards this kindness with theft.

He stole the economy the agriculture and the culture. It's a jewish subversion manifesto for kids.

And dont forget after the last item he cuts the stalk

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So in the original (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.)

  Jack steals first gold coins than a goose that lays golden eggs than a magic harp.

He shows up to the giants house begs the wife for food, is fed and his from the giant thus given safety and each of 3x rewards this kindness with theft.

He stole the economy the agriculture and the culture. It's a jewish subversion manifesto for kids.

And dont forget after the last item he cuts the stalk
I thought "Jack" was supposed to be a good guy. Or does it more closely mean just the trickster archetype - hence subversion and its teaching, along with the lack of punishment?
I guess it matters, then, what perspective the Trickster takes, eh?

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So in the original (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.)

  Jack steals first gold coins than a goose that lays golden eggs than a magic harp.

He shows up to the giants house begs the wife for food, is fed and his from the giant thus given safety and each of 3x rewards this kindness with theft.

He stole the economy the agriculture and the culture. It's a jewish subversion manifesto for kids.

And dont forget after the last item he cuts the stalk
I thought "Jack" was supposed to be a good guy. Or does it more closely mean just the trickster archetype - hence subversion and its teaching, along with the lack of punishment?
I guess it matters, then, what perspective the Trickster takes, eh?

Hes a jewish prototype. Infiltrate ingratiate steal

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Never liked jack and the beanstalk as a kid. This occult lens over children's stories rejuvenates my interest in folklore. Those slippery b@astards have their hand in everything or so it seems. My understanding was subversion occurred when disney turned a folk tale into a full feature film. Reading that breakdown was like watching Ramsay slice and dice a three Michelin star dish: efficient, impressive, and masterful.

Gotta bump this thread to keep it going.
Last Edit: May 05, 2021, 01:58:04 PM by Penia_Phronesis
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Apologies if I missed something but who exactly is Jack supposed to be?

No need to apologize, we are all here to learn. The name Jack is often used to name trickster and a thief. And at the end of this story, a carrier of light.

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Stingy Jack acts an awful lot like Captain Jack Sparrow, no? Just replace satan with Davy Jones. There is even the ten year timeframe like in At World's End.
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Never liked jack and the beanstalk as a kid. This occult lens over children's stories rejuvenates my interest in folklore. Those slippery b@astards have their hand in everything or so it seems. My understanding was subversion occurred when disney turned a folk tale into a full feature film. Reading that breakdown was like watching Ramsay slice and dice a three Michelin star dish: efficient, impressive, and masterful.

Gotta bump this thread to keep it going.

The Itsy Bitsy Spider
Three Men in a Tub
Row Row Row Your Boat
etc.

All have occult meaning.
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