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Title: Who is Odin?
Post by: AllKeyMe on July 28, 2020, 02:29:39 PM
To distract you guys from the autismo that is happening above and perhaps glean something useful I will start another topic.
I always wondered what Odin actually represents.

Old Norse Óðinn (whence Icelandic Óðinn, English Oden), akin to Old High German Wodan and Old English Wōden. From Proto-Germanic *Wōdanaz, derived from Proto-Germanic *wōdaz (“rage, manic inspiration, furor poeticus”), from Proto-Indo-European *weh₂t- (“to be excited”). Compare Old Norse óðr (“rage”) and Dutch woede (“rage”) and woeden (“to rage”), Latin vātēs. Related to English wode.

Woden = wod+en
En being an old English ending referring to “to be made of” as in gold-en lead-en etc.
So woden is he who is made of wod.
He who is made of rage, manic inspiration etc.
This “Manic inspiration” and "rage" I think refers to awareness. Thus making Odin be “he who is made of awareness“ “He who is consumed by awareness”.

What do you guys think about this?


Title: Who is Odin?
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 28, 2020, 08:21:01 PM
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To distract you guys from the autismo that is happening above and perhaps glean something useful I will start another topic.
I always wondered what Odin actually represents.

Old Norse Óðinn (whence Icelandic Óðinn, English Oden), akin to Old High German Wodan and Old English Wōden. From Proto-Germanic *Wōdanaz, derived from Proto-Germanic *wōdaz (“rage, manic inspiration, furor poeticus”), from Proto-Indo-European *weh₂t- (“to be excited”). Compare Old Norse óðr (“rage”) and Dutch woede (“rage”) and woeden (“to rage”), Latin vātēs. Related to English wode.

Woden = wod+en
En being an old English ending referring to “to be made of” as in gold-en lead-en etc.
So woden is he who is made of wod.
He who is made of rage, manic inspiration etc.
This “Manic inspiration” and "rage" I think refers to awareness. Thus making Odin be “he who is made of awareness“ “He who is consumed by awareness”.

What do you guys think about this?

Copy-pasting etymology and asking a question isn't starting a thread it's begging for information do some research posit a  Theory and generate discussion this is absolute trash
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: AllKeyMe on July 28, 2020, 11:25:34 PM
Ok
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 29, 2020, 12:55:50 AM
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Ok

Really no "boomer" or other derisive term..
Title: Who is Odin?
Post by: AllKeyMe on July 29, 2020, 09:51:45 AM
Lol, you really want to argue that much? I said ok as in okay.
Is this even the right direction?

Odin is the only one who is able to travel all of the nine realms. His horse is the one who carries him, named Slipnir , “slipper” "sliding" (slipper). as if slipping in between the cracks. 

Slipper has eight legs which likely refer to the eight directions in the norse medicine wheel, eight directions being: Asgard, giants home, dwarf home, fire home, hel home, Wind home, elf home.

Odin carries a spear which is likely a spine, leading to Yggdrasil also being a spine.

Odin's companions are the ravens Hugin "thinking" and Munin "remembering “
“Hugin and Munin fly each day
over the spacious earth.
I fear for Hugin, that he come not back,
yet more anxious am I for Munin.

O'er Mithgarth Hugin and Munin both
Each day set forth to fly;
For Hugin I fear lest he come not home,
But for Munin my care is more.”

Odin cares more for remembering than for thinking.
The two ravens are said to bring Odin information from all of Midgard. Thus implying the connection to the collective unconscious.

The two wolves that are said to follow Odin are Geri and Freki ("greedy" and "voracious"),
“Geri and Freki the war-wont sates,
the triumphant sire of hosts;
but on wine only the famed in arms,
Odin, ever lives.

Freki and Geri does Heerfather feed,
The far-famed fighter of old:
But on wine alone does the weapon-decked god,
Othin, forever live.”

It seems that Odin is followed by greed and desire to consume.

In conclusion.
1 Odin is god of awareness. Only awareness can travel all realms (possibly chakras) with the help of /trough the spine.
2 Awareness can collect information through the help of “thinking” - contemplating and “remembering” ideas like memories leading one to another.
3 Awareness is followed by greed and desire to consume which implies that being aware of something does consume it in a sense.
Title: Who is Odin?
Post by: Museten on July 29, 2020, 07:46:40 PM
I like this thread, haven't dug into Odin at all...

Odin's companions are the ravens Hugin "thinking" and Munin "remembering “

Hugin and Munin fly each day
over the spacious earth.
I fear for Hugin, that he come not back,
yet more anxious am I for Munin.

Hugin - flies away... (below) lost in thought. The ego. Can go out on it's own. (above) future scenario where the loss of consciousness occurs to the world.
Munin - (below) buttresses Hugin, reflections allows you hugin to more straightly fly, and fly further. (above) most people are pretty poor at remembering - it's even been written here many times that much has been lost and virtually everything is unknown even passed a couple hundred years (plus that idea that some god/entity destroyed the akashic records).   

The spear is the s(word) and the spine. It's what is thrust out into the physicality.

Slipper is a mare - the tamed and ridden subconscious.

Woden - man is literally wooden without his birds.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_the_birds

Tweet Tweet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkF3oxziUI4

"your stairway lies on the whispering wind..."

https://www.etymonline.com/word/bird

Still up to c. 1400 it was often used in the specific sense "the young of a bird, fledgling, nestling, chick," and of the young of other animals (bees, fish, snakes) and human children

Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being
suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the
outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make
the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female;
and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a
foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the
kingdom.


The two hemispheres...

https://www.marquette.edu/maqom/Gospel%20of%20Thomas%20Lambdin.pdf

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Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 29, 2020, 08:40:53 PM
Who is wotan indeed
Title: Who is Odin?
Post by: ophiuchus on July 29, 2020, 09:37:22 PM
I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 29, 2020, 09:51:52 PM
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I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?

Old Nick quotes:
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"4 also represents the hanged man or Odin or one who has sacrificed everything in order to gain everything

If you look at the picture of the hanged man on the tarot card it's an upside-down 4"

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"this made me lol a little.... Zeus, Titan, Osiris, Ham, King David, Jesus, Jupiter-Ammon, Jove, Yahweh, Jehovah, Adonai, Saint Peter, Buddha, Aten (Aden or Adon), Gaden, DAN(Dan sounds like the guy in accounting), Odin (Woden), Nibiru, Marduk, and Jedi (Jeudi, Djedi, or more commonly Jedidiah), just to name a few...."
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 29, 2020, 09:52:53 PM
Another quote still related to this thread.

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"youre not far off..Tyr is the "guarantor of justice" in norse mythology and despite only having one central myth(wonder what happened to the other tales of the god of nobility and justice who sacrifice his arm to save the world) is a big deal in the norse pantheon. He stuck his arm in the mouth of fenrir, whose very existence was a threat to all life)
     Prior to the Viking age, the Northern Germanic people had a similar set of gods and goddesses. They were more primitive, however, and not as fleshed out. In that pantheon, Tyr was perhaps the chief god, and went by the name Tiwaz. He was one of the war gods, and seemed equivalent to the Roman Mars. Like Tyr, his primary characteristics were honor and justice and courage. By the time of the Vikings, however, the centrality of Tyr/Tiwaz was supplanted by Odin and Thor. This tells us something of the different cultures. In the Germanic world of the early and mid-100s, battle was crucially important. Courage and bravery in war was something deeply foundational to a man’s life.
   Loki — the wily trickster — was father to three great and terrifying beings: Jormungand(the creature from hemlock grove for those who watched) — the world-encircling serpent, Hel — the death goddess, and Fenrir — the great wolf. The other gods had a terrible foreboding about these offspring of Loki, and took action to keep them at bay. They threw Jormungand into the ocean, relegated Hel to the underworld, and kept Fenrir in Asgard so they could keep a close and watchful eye on him. Even when the wolf was just a pup, only Tyr had the courage to feed Fenrir. The beast grew and grew, however, and the gods decided they could no longer keep him in their home. Knowing the destruction Fenrir would wreak were he to be set free to roam the world, they decided to try to bind him with various chains and ropes.
   To get Fenrir to consent, the gods would tell him that these bindings were merely competitions of strength;(appealing to ego to conceal bondage, sounds familiar) they even clapped and cheered when the wolf broke through each attempted constraint. Desperate for a solution, the gods sent down word to the dwarves — the greatest craftsmen in the universe — to create something that not even Fenrir could wrestle free from. They forged Gleipnir — a rope which was made from the sound of a cat’s footsteps, the beard of a woman, the roots of a stone, the breath of a fish, and the spittle of a bird. Since these things don’t exist, it’s futile to struggle against them
   When the gods presented Gleipnir to Fenrir as yet another challenge of strength, he grew suspicious. The rope was too light and silky; how could it possibly hold him? Something was afoot. So he insisted that he would not be bound unless one of the gods placed a hand in his jaws as a sign of good faith. Tyr — knowing full well the ramifications of his decision — was the only god to step forward. Fenrir was bound, and of course took Tyr’s hand as retribution. From thence on, Tyr carried a permanent disability and scar which spoke of his bravery for the sake of the entire world.
  You’ll remember that Odin sacrificed an eye for the sake of gaining wisdom. It was in many ways a selfish pursuit — sure, others benefited, but he was primarily seeking knowledge because he had a ravenous desire for it. Tyr also sacrificed himself physically, but it was largely for the sake of his community.(sacrifice for selfish ends to attain esoteric power took prevalence over sacrifice for the good of the many, hence the all but eradication of tyr from norse mythology) Yes, Fenrir’s binding obviously gained Tyr security as well, but ultimately his motivations were directed towards helping his peers as well as the humans, who resided below Asgard in Midgard.
    Just as Christians look to and draw strength from the sacrifice of Christ, Vikings (and even modern followers of the old Norse religion!) looked to Tyr in much the same way. His example imparted courage and bravery. If Tyr could sacrifice his hand — something crucially important to a war god — then surely even common folk could make small sacrifices for the sake of their kith and kin.
     Serving other people is easy when it fits into our schedule and our talents. Far more difficult is it to serve our community when we’re tasked with doing something we don’t enjoy, or that we aren’t good at, or that we know will bring some amount of financial or physical pain. And that last one is the toughest, isn’t it? Physical sacrifice hurts in a very literal way, and can have lasting physiological (and even psychological) consequences. And yet it’s been a moral imperative that men have shouldered for thousands of years. Cavemen would risk their lives to go hunt dinner, explorers and frontiersmen traversed great spans of sea and land to find a better life (and many didn’t come home), and today, first responders — the vast majority of them men — put their well being on the line every day. And in times of danger and disaster, average men continue to put their own lives on the line to protect others.
    Opportunities to make physical sacrifices do not always arise in our generally safe and secure modern world, but a man should be ready if/when such an exigency arises. Tyr certainly didn’t want to lose his hand to Fenrir that day, but when the community was in dire need, he stepped forward. And in that one remaining myth is the essence of the service to self component of the "right hand path" Something tptb dont want anyone focused on and certainly not emulating."
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Museten on July 29, 2020, 09:56:10 PM
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I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?

Matthew 6:22

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

It's your 3rd eye (grass said 7th chakra right)? It's ONE eye, and the other was violently removed (sacrificed). Also he probably worked for the illuminati.
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 29, 2020, 10:08:06 PM
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I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?

Matthew 6:22

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

It's your 3rd eye (grass said 7th chakra right)? It's ONE eye, and the other was violently removed (sacrificed). Also he probably worked for the illuminati.

Who
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 29, 2020, 10:10:21 PM
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I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?

Matthew 6:22

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

It's your 3rd eye (grass said 7th chakra right)? It's ONE eye, and the other was violently removed (sacrificed). Also he probably worked for the illuminati.

But the group(s) commonly referred to as the 'Illuminati' aren't the bad guys.

There are two groups, one for magic and the other for science. The ones who work towards the existence of magic are the Illuminati. The ones who work towards 'science' dominating things and killing off magic (and those able to use it) are the actual 'bad guys' in this situation.

This is where understanding of what the World Wars were about becomes useful. It was a war between magic and science. It's not like it ever ended (nor started there) but that specific moment in history is one of the most recent big physical conflicts related to this.
Knowing that Hitler apparently had an interest in old relics and 'alien' technology, you can probably guess what he was fighting for (and what side). Once you know what side he was on, you will know what the 'Allies' were fighting for.

You want an example demonstrating how the World Wars was a magic war? Look at the Wonder Woman movies.
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 29, 2020, 10:12:26 PM
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I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?

Matthew 6:22

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

It's your 3rd eye (grass said 7th chakra right)? It's ONE eye, and the other was violently removed (sacrificed). Also he probably worked for the illuminati.

But the light blinds anyone who truly wishes to see. Darkness stimulates the pineal gland. Remember what the original state of things are?

You only need one eye to see. Odin gave up part of his physical vessel to gain knowledge of something greater.
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 29, 2020, 10:14:40 PM
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I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?

Matthew 6:22

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

It's your 3rd eye (grass said 7th chakra right)? It's ONE eye, and the other was violently removed (sacrificed). Also he probably worked for the illuminati.

But the group(s) commonly referred to as the 'Illuminati' aren't the bad guys.

There are two groups, one for magic and the other for science. The ones who work towards the existence of magic are the Illuminati. The ones who work towards 'science' dominating things and killing off magic (and those able to use it) are the actual 'bad guys' in this situation.

This is where understanding of what the World Wars were about becomes useful. It was a war between magic and science. It's not like it ever ended (nor started there) but that specific moment in history is one of the most recent big physical conflicts related to this.
Knowing that Hitler apparently had an interest in old relics and 'alien' technology, you can probably guess what he was fighting for (and what side). Once you know what side he was on, you will know what the 'Allies' were fighting for.

You want an example demonstrating how the World Wars was a magic war? Look at the Wonder Woman movies.

No I want to know who was probably in the illuminati
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 29, 2020, 10:18:46 PM
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I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?

Matthew 6:22

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

It's your 3rd eye (grass said 7th chakra right)? It's ONE eye, and the other was violently removed (sacrificed). Also he probably worked for the illuminati.

But the group(s) commonly referred to as the 'Illuminati' aren't the bad guys.

There are two groups, one for magic and the other for science. The ones who work towards the existence of magic are the Illuminati. The ones who work towards 'science' dominating things and killing off magic (and those able to use it) are the actual 'bad guys' in this situation.

This is where understanding of what the World Wars were about becomes useful. It was a war between magic and science. It's not like it ever ended (nor started there) but that specific moment in history is one of the most recent big physical conflicts related to this.
Knowing that Hitler apparently had an interest in old relics and 'alien' technology, you can probably guess what he was fighting for (and what side). Once you know what side he was on, you will know what the 'Allies' were fighting for.

You want an example demonstrating how the World Wars was a magic war? Look at the Wonder Woman movies.

No I want to know who was probably in the illuminati

I don't think I know the answer to that as of this post.

If Hitler was fighting (at least in part) for the persistence of magic in our world, then wouldn't that make him a member to some extent?
Title: Who is Odin?
Post by: Museten on July 29, 2020, 10:50:39 PM
Sorry, that part of my post was a joke (a nod to the people I encounter who are "woke").
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 30, 2020, 02:32:24 AM
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I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?

Matthew 6:22

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

It's your 3rd eye (grass said 7th chakra right)? It's ONE eye, and the other was violently removed (sacrificed). Also he probably worked for the illuminati.

But the group(s) commonly referred to as the 'Illuminati' aren't the bad guys.

There are two groups, one for magic and the other for science. The ones who work towards the existence of magic are the Illuminati. The ones who work towards 'science' dominating things and killing off magic (and those able to use it) are the actual 'bad guys' in this situation.

This is where understanding of what the World Wars were about becomes useful. It was a war between magic and science. It's not like it ever ended (nor started there) but that specific moment in history is one of the most recent big physical conflicts related to this.
Knowing that Hitler apparently had an interest in old relics and 'alien' technology, you can probably guess what he was fighting for (and what side). Once you know what side he was on, you will know what the 'Allies' were fighting for.

You want an example demonstrating how the World Wars was a magic war? Look at the Wonder Woman movies.

No I want to know who was probably in the illuminati

I don't think I know the answer to that as of this post.

If Hitler was fighting (at least in part) for the persistence of magic in our world, then wouldn't that make him a member to some extent?

Am I a member?
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 30, 2020, 03:31:10 AM
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I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?

Matthew 6:22

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

It's your 3rd eye (grass said 7th chakra right)? It's ONE eye, and the other was violently removed (sacrificed). Also he probably worked for the illuminati.

But the group(s) commonly referred to as the 'Illuminati' aren't the bad guys.

There are two groups, one for magic and the other for science. The ones who work towards the existence of magic are the Illuminati. The ones who work towards 'science' dominating things and killing off magic (and those able to use it) are the actual 'bad guys' in this situation.

This is where understanding of what the World Wars were about becomes useful. It was a war between magic and science. It's not like it ever ended (nor started there) but that specific moment in history is one of the most recent big physical conflicts related to this.
Knowing that Hitler apparently had an interest in old relics and 'alien' technology, you can probably guess what he was fighting for (and what side). Once you know what side he was on, you will know what the 'Allies' were fighting for.

You want an example demonstrating how the World Wars was a magic war? Look at the Wonder Woman movies.

No I want to know who was probably in the illuminati

I don't think I know the answer to that as of this post.

If Hitler was fighting (at least in part) for the persistence of magic in our world, then wouldn't that make him a member to some extent?

Am I a member?

If we go by my description of said members and what their group fights for, then yes. You and on an less 'official' note, for the uninitiated, at least the main members but everyone else that wishes to see magic return instead of a technological, 'scientific' advanced society that snuffs it and its users out.

But what makes you an 'official' member over someone else? I would have thought being born and then brought into a group to be initiated but maybe its the case that anyone who reaches the level of being aware of magic and works to see it prevail is part of these 'illuminates'.

To be clear, I'm no hating on 'science' but the reason that the cult of science's push for technological implementation as a way to progress and advanced as a race and society (even though there are many clear examples where it harms biological life, at least how we have utilized as of now) is to make all natural magic users obsolete and get them reliant on these machines instead of harnessing themselves and growing to use magic properly.

'Science' means 'to know' and what they can't have the proles knowing is that there is energy everywhere waiting to be tapped into. You don't even need a machine to tap into it.

Technology bypasses cognitive dissonance to allow individuals to use magic. If that is the case and you support technology over magic, then you will never bypass said cognitive dissonance and ultimately become a tool for dark forces trying to reclaim this space.
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Grass is Green on July 30, 2020, 10:29:36 AM
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I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?

Matthew 6:22

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

It's your 3rd eye (grass said 7th chakra right)? It's ONE eye, and the other was violently removed (sacrificed). Also he probably worked for the illuminati.

To be clear, I said the third eye is the seventh sense, after visual, audio, kinesthetic, gustatory, olfactory, and locus of attention.
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Museten on July 30, 2020, 11:57:20 AM
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I believe that Odin was a magician who was later deified, just like many other deities. I don't really understand the whole deal with sacrificing your eye though. Obviously the point is that to gain something you must sacrifice something in exchange. But why?

Matthew 6:22

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

It's your 3rd eye (grass said 7th chakra right)? It's ONE eye, and the other was violently removed (sacrificed). Also he probably worked for the illuminati.

To be clear, I said the third eye is the seventh sense, after visual, audio, kinesthetic, gustatory, olfactory, and locus of attention.

Thank you for the clarification.
Title: Who is Odin?
Post by: AllKeyMe on July 30, 2020, 12:32:21 PM
Was Odin a man?

""Odin and his wife had a prophecy, and it revealed to him that his name would be exalted in the northern part of the world and would be honored above the names of all kings. Therefore, he set out to set off on a journey ..." Odin and his people were glorified and taken for gods, the story goes. Edda. And so they came north to the land of the Saxons. Odin left three sons to rule the country. One of them was named Vegdeg. He remained in the eastern country of the Saxons. Odin's second son was called Beldeg, or Balder. The present Westphalia belonged to him. Odin's third son, Sigi, ruled the land that was later called the country of the Franks, and the Wolsung family originated from him. One set out on a further journey and reached a country called Reidgotland. Odin made its ruler his son Skjeld. From him comes the Skjeldung clan. These are Danish kings and the country later became known as Jutland. Then Odin reached the country that is now called Sweden. Then it was ruled by Gyulvi. He went out to meet Odin and said that he could rule in his state as soon as he wanted."
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: AllKeyMe on July 30, 2020, 12:45:09 PM
Odin: Wotan - pragerm Vodanaz-skand. Wodinaz-Vilus-Winds (English) -Russian Veles
This is the name of Wednesday in English Windsday, that is, Odin's day.

Veles is described as the god of the dungeon, the cattle god, the snake god, the god of wisdom. Veles has a lot in common in Water (Vodanaz-Diver). Like the serpentine God, Veles is the god of wisdom, and Odin is similar."

Veles-One-Shiva. Great God of Indo-Europeans

Gavrilov D., Trace of Veles in Russian fairy tales and epics / Myths and magic
Indo-Europeans, N7.-M .: Manager, 1998.
"Let's turn to the old tale `Knee-deep in silver, elbow-deep in
gold`. In the work of a remarkable Soviet writer-folklorist
Alexander Nikolaevich Nechaev, it is called `Ivan, the widow's son` [1].
there is a baked bull. The bull has a chiseled knife in one side, and garlic in the other
crushed. Know cut, soak in garlic and eat plenty. Is it bad? A cow or
bull, or elk `forest cow` is the totem animal of the` cattle` god of the Rus and
Slavs of Veles. Often in ancient times, a bull was brought as a gift to an idol,
butchering on a sacrificial stone. Buyan Island in a number of studies
identified with Ruyan-Rugen, where until 1168 flourished
Slovenian paganism and, probably, sacrifices were made on special occasions. IN
other conspiracies mention together the mystical Brawler, its inhabitants and
alatyr-stone [2,5]. Not the great Alatyr that closes the entrance to
hellish kingdom, but just a stone at the crossroads, near which
celebrated traditional rituals, made offerings to underground deities, and
guardians of the roads. Alatyr means `altar`. We observe the same in the cult
the ancient Greek goddess, the terrible Hecate.
Let's go back to the Russian fairy tale. As usual, her hero Ivan, although not a fool
and not a royal family, but he has an evil stepfather, a merchant. Wanting to get rid of the guy
he takes him with him to the wrong side, where he starts a quarrel, accusing him of stealing:
`` I ate gingerbread cookies, and even opens the door so that the jester, such and such, will take you!
Only had time to say, as at the same moment the spruce-bereznik began to rustle,
crackled, everything around went dark, and an old man appeared from the thicket,
scary-terrified: head like a haystop, eyes like bowls,
in the shoulders a slanting fathom and itself is on a level with the forest: `` For what you gave me,
jester, guy, get your box of snacks! `In this description you can guess
hairy VELES-Sheaf. GREAT and mighty patron of the forest world. At the same
the time of Veles is associated with the abundance of the harvest and prosperity. Mirolyubov writes,
that in a compressed field the peasant left a beard of ears tied in a bunch
tribute to Veles. He also celebrates the worship of the Sheaf, the symbol of hair [3].
Hair or Hairdressers (Milky Way) can also be identified with  heavenly bread.

Do not forget that Velez is like Odin, the lord of the dead, and
conductor of the `souls` of the dead to the kingdom of hell, like Hermes. Finally, he
Guardian of the gates of the Bright Iryas Slavic Valhalla. We found another one
unobvious, but very beautiful connection between the dead and Veles. Death mows
ears are cut off.
Death decays people. The ears are the prey of the farmer, and the dead are the prey
of death. The soil that feeds the ears consists of the dust of ancestors.
The nickname `jester`, close to the word` buffoon`, also indicates a connection with
Veles. Pagan dances, antics and breaking buffoons were interpreted
Christian church as demon possession. Great Odin blessed
skalds, and exuberant HAIR patronized epic creativity, WOLF
buffoons, as before the boyans.
`The jester of the guy praises:` Well, well done!
You have a knack and hands, you see, golden, only childish strength. Yes
that is fixable. 'He took out a jug from the shelf:' Drink three sips! 'Ivan drank
and his strength has tripled. 'And then, in the course of the tale, to escape
from the Master, Ivan drinks the jester's magic drinks: green, red, white."
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Grass is Green on July 30, 2020, 03:41:29 PM
"Wotan is a restless wanderer who creates unrest and stirs up strife, now here, now there, and works magic."

--Carl Jung
Title: Who is Odin?
Post by: ephemeron on July 30, 2020, 09:16:51 PM
Lol I hadn’t noticed “Windsday,” kudos OP.

Odin the traveler, inciter of duplicity, lord of winds, lord of magic...

The oral tradition of Odin as an ubermensch or physical god also matches Melqart, Heracles, Nimrod/Noah the giant, Quetzlcoatl. A physical being traveling the ancient world and founding civilizations through his descendants or magical feats.
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 30, 2020, 09:42:37 PM
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"Wotan is a restless wanderer who creates unrest and stirs up strife, now here, now there, and works magic."

--Carl Jung

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Lol I hadn’t noticed “Windsday,” kudos OP.

Odin the traveler, inciter of duplicity, lord of winds, lord of magic...

The oral tradition of Odin as an ubermensch or physical god also matches Melqart, Heracles, Nimrod/Noah the giant, Quetzlcoatl. A physical being traveling the ancient world and founding civilizations through his descendants or magical feats.

Sounds a lot like an aspect of Lucifer to me.
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 30, 2020, 10:36:39 PM
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Was Odin a man?

""Odin and his wife had a prophecy, and it revealed to him that his name would be exalted in the northern part of the world and would be honored above the names of all kings. Therefore, he set out to set off on a journey ..." Odin and his people were glorified and taken for gods, the story goes. Edda. And so they came north to the land of the Saxons. Odin left three sons to rule the country. One of them was named Vegdeg. He remained in the eastern country of the Saxons. Odin's second son was called Beldeg, or Balder. The present Westphalia belonged to him. Odin's third son, Sigi, ruled the land that was later called the country of the Franks, and the Wolsung family originated from him. One set out on a further journey and reached a country called Reidgotland. Odin made its ruler his son Skjeld. From him comes the Skjeldung clan. These are Danish kings and the country later became known as Jutland. Then Odin reached the country that is now called Sweden. Then it was ruled by Gyulvi. He went out to meet Odin and said that he could rule in his state as soon as he wanted."

Wotan was precisely a man
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: The Watchers Recurrence on July 30, 2020, 10:39:44 PM
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Was Odin a man?

""Odin and his wife had a prophecy, and it revealed to him that his name would be exalted in the northern part of the world and would be honored above the names of all kings. Therefore, he set out to set off on a journey ..." Odin and his people were glorified and taken for gods, the story goes. Edda. And so they came north to the land of the Saxons. Odin left three sons to rule the country. One of them was named Vegdeg. He remained in the eastern country of the Saxons. Odin's second son was called Beldeg, or Balder. The present Westphalia belonged to him. Odin's third son, Sigi, ruled the land that was later called the country of the Franks, and the Wolsung family originated from him. One set out on a further journey and reached a country called Reidgotland. Odin made its ruler his son Skjeld. From him comes the Skjeldung clan. These are Danish kings and the country later became known as Jutland. Then Odin reached the country that is now called Sweden. Then it was ruled by Gyulvi. He went out to meet Odin and said that he could rule in his state as soon as he wanted."

Wotan was precisely a man

So what is a 'man' in this context? The same kind of 'man' Crowley was?
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Nrgiseternal on July 30, 2020, 10:40:32 PM
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Was Odin a man?

""Odin and his wife had a prophecy, and it revealed to him that his name would be exalted in the northern part of the world and would be honored above the names of all kings. Therefore, he set out to set off on a journey ..." Odin and his people were glorified and taken for gods, the story goes. Edda. And so they came north to the land of the Saxons. Odin left three sons to rule the country. One of them was named Vegdeg. He remained in the eastern country of the Saxons. Odin's second son was called Beldeg, or Balder. The present Westphalia belonged to him. Odin's third son, Sigi, ruled the land that was later called the country of the Franks, and the Wolsung family originated from him. One set out on a further journey and reached a country called Reidgotland. Odin made its ruler his son Skjeld. From him comes the Skjeldung clan. These are Danish kings and the country later became known as Jutland. Then Odin reached the country that is now called Sweden. Then it was ruled by Gyulvi. He went out to meet Odin and said that he could rule in his state as soon as he wanted."

Wotan was precisely a man

So what is a 'man' in this context? The same kind of 'man' Crowley was?

The kind of man crolwey almost was
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Grass is Green on August 01, 2020, 01:57:22 AM
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"Wotan is a restless wanderer who creates unrest and stirs up strife, now here, now there, and works magic."

--Carl Jung

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Lol I hadn’t noticed “Windsday,” kudos OP.

Odin the traveler, inciter of duplicity, lord of winds, lord of magic...

The oral tradition of Odin as an ubermensch or physical god also matches Melqart, Heracles, Nimrod/Noah the giant, Quetzlcoatl. A physical being traveling the ancient world and founding civilizations through his descendants or magical feats.

Sounds a lot like an aspect of Lucifer to me.

Yet he is referred to as Allfather.
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Museten on August 01, 2020, 02:03:06 AM
All father is the same of the head of the Catholic Church (controller of the order) in the preacher series... He's the opposite of Odin though (more inversion/an inside joke/jab possibly).
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: ephemeron on August 01, 2020, 04:08:35 AM
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All father is the same of the head of the Catholic Church (controller of the order) in the preacher series... He's the opposite of Odin though (more inversion/an inside joke/jab possibly).

LOL all things seem jabs in Preacher, why it’s long overdue I watch it.
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Museten on August 01, 2020, 12:12:28 PM
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All father is the same of the head of the Catholic Church (controller of the order) in the preacher series... He's the opposite of Odin though (more inversion/an inside joke/jab possibly).

*Name

It's a great show. But in interacting with it's cast on Twitter they're pozzed or comped (as all actors seem to be).
Title: Re: Who is Odin?
Post by: Museten on August 01, 2020, 12:14:06 PM
Also (and this is a spoiler and surprised I didn't see it before) eventually the slovenly all father is killed and herr star (who is missing an eye) takes over.
Title: Who is Odin?
Post by: 01010010 on August 21, 2020, 05:10:26 AM
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Was Odin a man?

""Odin and his wife had a prophecy, and it revealed to him that his name would be exalted in the northern part of the world and would be honored above the names of all kings. Therefore, he set out to set off on a journey ..." Odin and his people were glorified and taken for gods, the story goes. Edda. And so they came north to the land of the Saxons. Odin left three sons to rule the country. One of them was named Vegdeg. He remained in the eastern country of the Saxons. Odin's second son was called Beldeg, or Balder. The present Westphalia belonged to him. Odin's third son, Sigi, ruled the land that was later called the country of the Franks, and the Wolsung family originated from him. One set out on a further journey and reached a country called Reidgotland. Odin made its ruler his son Skjeld. From him comes the Skjeldung clan. These are Danish kings and the country later became known as Jutland. Then Odin reached the country that is now called Sweden. Then it was ruled by Gyulvi. He went out to meet Odin and said that he could rule in his state as soon as he wanted."
Says much the same thing in the Oera Linda [053-054] "and so they shortly arrived in Skeanland. When the brothers of the north had joined him, Wodin divided his powerful army into three. ‘Frya!’ was their war cry, and he thus drove back the Finns and Magyars as if they were children.
When the magus heard how his men were all being slain, he sent messengers with scepter and crown. They said to Wodin: ‘O you, greatest of all kings! We are guilty, but all that we have done was done from necessity. You think that we took on your brothers willingly, but we were whipped forth by our enemies, who are still at our heels. We often asked your burg maiden for help, but she ignored us. The magus says that if we kill half our numbers in fighting with each other, the wild herdsmen will come and kill us off completely. The magus possesses great riches, but he has seen that Frya is more powerful than all our spirits combined. He will lay down his head in her lap. You are the most heroic king on earth, your folk are of iron. Become our king, and we shall willingly be your slaves. What honor it would be for you if you could drive back the savages! Our trumpets would resound with it and our praises would precede you everywhere.’
Wodin was strong, fierce and heroic, but he was not clear sighted, Therefore, he was caught in their trap and crowned by the magus. Quite a lot of steersmen and land warriors who disapproved of this turn left quietly, taking Kate with them. But Kate, who did not wish to appear before either the mother or the general assembly, jumped overboard. Then a storm arose and lashed the ships down upon the banks of the Denmarks, not sparing a single man. Later, this strait was named Kate's Gate."
Title: Who is Odin?
Post by: stgermaine on September 16, 2020, 09:52:33 AM
Oera Linda tradition is critical of Odin, unlike many of other Norse lores: "Wodin was strong, fierce and heroic, but he was not clear-sighted. Therefore, he was caught in their trap and crowned by the magus. Quite a lot of steersmen and land warriors who disapproved of this turn left quietly" (054-055).
In Oera Lind tradition Wodin gets a military victory, but eventually succumbs to the Magy rule. Whereas in other Norse traditions, Odin the supreme king conquers a Finno-Swedish king Gylfi/Gylve and has a child with Finno-Russian princess Rindr (rinta 'chest', e.g. tinarinta 'tin-chest' or 'jewelry-chest'). Thus if the whole Havamal is of Odinic doctrine and centres on his erotic adventures (of the Norse sagas), the text of course would not view the world in continental Fryan mindset.
Title: Who is Odin?
Post by: stgermaine on September 16, 2020, 10:13:38 AM
Saxo Grammaticus, Gesta Danorum: "When he [Odin] had retired, one Mit-othin, who was famous for his juggling tricks, was likewise quickened, as though by inspiration from on high, to seize the opportunity of feigning to be a god; and, wrapping the minds of the barbarians in fresh darkness, he led them by the renown of his jugglings to pay holy observance to his name. He said that the wrath of the gods could never be appeased nor the outrage to their deity expiated by mixed and indiscriminate sacrifices, and therefore forbade that prayers for this end should be put up without distinction, appointing to each of those above his especial drink-offering. But when Odin was returning, he cast away all help of jugglings, went to Finland to hide himself, and was there attacked and slain by the inhabitants. Even in his death his abominations were made manifest, for those who came nigh his barrow were cut off by a kind of sudden death; and after his end, he spread such pestilence that he seemed almost to leave a filthier record in his death than in his life: it was as though he would extort from the guilty a punishment for his slaughter. The inhabitants, being in this trouble, took the body out of the mound, beheaded it, and impaled it through the breast with a sharp stake; and herein that people found relief.