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If I understand this correctly, 'Winds of Change' said/asked this:

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I think you gave a clue to your perspective when you said "upside down water".  Which is upside down?

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The water oriented South during the earth rotation at over a thousand miles an hour

Okay, that's probably it.  I asked a few questions, so wasn't sure.  Why would it be different to the northern water, except for coriolis effect?

The Coriolis effect is larger than that and it would be different because the water not pointing directly up would fall unless gravity was acting on it. Think about how strong gravity has to be to keep all that water in place

Yes it affects all the water on either side of the equator.  Gravity isn't the strong thing.  The water itself generates part of the field effect.  Gravity does no work.

Ok Explain because that makes no sense...  lol

You mean as in gravity does no work?  Same as magnetism does no work.  The water is part of the mass that creates the overall field effect.  It's not seperate in that sense.  I'm not talking about conventional notions of gravity here.  It's not really that hard to understand, I think.  Or maybe it is, I don't know.
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If I understand this correctly, 'Winds of Change' said/asked this:

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I think you gave a clue to your perspective when you said "upside down water".  Which is upside down?

To which Nick replied with this:

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The water oriented South during the earth rotation at over a thousand miles an hour

Okay, that's probably it.  I asked a few questions, so wasn't sure.  Why would it be different to the northern water, except for coriolis effect?

The Coriolis effect is larger than that and it would be different because the water not pointing directly up would fall unless gravity was acting on it. Think about how strong gravity has to be to keep all that water in place

Yes it affects all the water on either side of the equator.  Gravity isn't the strong thing.  The water itself generates part of the field effect.  Gravity does no work.
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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: Random musings
« on: June 29, 2020, 06:23:12 AM »
The Aussie Aboriginals were similar.  Just the basic essentials.  They didn't want to carry too much crap with them on their walkabouts.  Things like heavy grinding bowls were left at the traditional camp places and were used by whoever turned up.  Worked pretty well actually and they didn't know what they were missing. 
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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: Random musings
« on: June 29, 2020, 04:14:31 AM »
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If we are not our bodies then why do the different biological human races matter? or do black, whites, asians, etc. have different etheric/astral counterparts?

Ask yourself this..what tecnology or great work originated from the africans

Maybe they discovered fire?  All manner of percussive instruments?  Not sure if they had a wheel.  Dugout canoe.  Mud hut.  What more do you need?   :)
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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: Never forget
« on: June 29, 2020, 04:08:54 AM »
Place great emphasis on... "NEVER!"
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If I understand this correctly, 'Winds of Change' said/asked this:

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I think you gave a clue to your perspective when you said "upside down water".  Which is upside down?

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The water oriented South during the earth rotation at over a thousand miles an hour

Okay, that's probably it.  I asked a few questions, so wasn't sure.  Why would it be different to the northern water, except for coriolis effect?
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The water oriented South during the earth rotation at over a thousand miles an hour

Not sure what you mean here.  Funny though, I suspect we're both on the same page, somewhere.  Electric Universe and all that.

Could well be my mind is spread further than usual today..apologies

And me to you. ;)
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The water oriented South during the earth rotation at over a thousand miles an hour

Not sure what you mean here.  Funny though, I suspect we're both on the same page, somewhere.  Electric Universe and all that.
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But then what's keeping everything down and how does constructs like a 10 ton satellite manage to overcome it?

Electromagnetism. The polarity of the ions that compose everything

Electromagnetism - yes.  But if we leave it at that (because they're so small) we find that the ions themselves cancel each other out - until we have enough of them to make a whole planet and it has an overall electromagnetic field, which then interacts with the plasma field of the universe, to produce gravity.
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So, mainstream science says Gravity is so strong that upside-down water at the surface of the ocean (near air) is being pulled to the centre of the earth?

But this force is also not that strong, in that this water can move in any direction with currents and tides, and be easily scooped, splashed, and thrown by a human hand.

If gravity pushes air down why isnt space sucking air out?


If gravity is keeping 1,450,000,000,000,000,000 tons of ocean water stuck to a ball that's spinning 1000mph, explain how we are not crushed by the tremendous force it would take to accomplish this?

Well, I'm at a loss to understand where you're coming from.  I said that mainstream science doesn't know what it is... they only know enough to exploit it.  The centre of gravity of an object is actually in the centre of its mass.  Of course if you've rejected everything science says about it and say that it doesn't exist, I guess there's no explanation about what it might be.  Is the magnetic ability of a bar magnet a real thing?  Where is its centre of magnetism?  The magnetic effect attenuates with distance.

I think you gave a clue to your perspective when you said "upside down water".  Which is upside down?  How do you determine that?  For a start, gravity is strongest at the centre and gets progressively weaker further out, according to the inverse square law.  Just if you factor that back into your questions, you might see something of what I'm trying to say.  Gravity doesn't push or pull, anymore than a magnet pushes or pulls iron filings.  Neither does any work.  It is a field effect of electromagnetism.  It's not the mover and shaker of the Universe as science assumes.     

I would welcome some kind of explanation that supports what you've said, but if not I guess we'd better agree to disagree and leave it at that. I can give explanations for my own convictions but it's pointless if they're not considered.

This doesn't mean I don't respect you, I just decided to say what I was thinking.   
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None of which have anything to do with time save duration tangentially

Yes, but I meant from our normal perception of time as a single arrow.  I'm pretty sure time is spherical.

So why is every depiction of it that people actually live with a circle? Think of how 'history always repeats itself' and just the very shape of a c-lock.

You know, was going to say circular, but then... 3D.  How would you draw a ball on a flat sheet of paper?  History doesn't repeat as in exactly... more like echoes itself in cycles.

A clock has a round face to represent measurement of time by a mechanical device.  Wheels and cogs within... what else would work as well?  Maybe an hour glass?
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Okay so if gravity exists explain to me how it's strong enough to keep everything from flying off the planet as the Earth spins but not strong enough to keep water vapor in the ocean

The ocean is liquid and the vapour is a gas.  Relative density compared to the atmosphere.  Sun's heat expands the water molecules at the surface and the vapour rises to a certain height depending on temperatures in the atmosphere.  Then the opposite occurs if the temperature falls.  Gravity also follows the inverse square rule for radiated energy.
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None of which have anything to do with time save duration tangentially

Yes, but I meant from our normal perception of time as a single arrow.  I'm pretty sure time is spherical.
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Gravity, magnetism and electricity are three modes of the same force. Gravity is really density and electricity is nothing more than magnetism.

I agree with your first sentence as in three aspects of force.  Electricity and magnetism are really one just thing.  One can't exist without the other.  Gravity is the result of tension between them (duality).  A bar magnet is interacting with the universal electrical medium to do what it does.  Certain (atomically) polarised materials, like lodestone are naturally magnetic (strong magnetic force), all other matter has the weaker force, known as gravity.  Even a pea has gravity, but so small as to be unmeasurable.
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our perceptions of other planets are limited to our physical senses and the visible light spectrum. "life" on these planets or planes or what they "really look like" can't be perceived in a picture. in this way, our sense of distance is also an illusion caused by the feeling that we are located in our bodies, here in this planet, which is why the concept of "space travel" in the traditional sense is most likely impossible

Agreed.  That old chestnut of literality, ever rears its immature head.   :)
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