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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: When was..
« on: October 12, 2021, 04:23:01 PM »
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When was...the molech statue the vatican placed in front of the coliseum removed? What started at that time? Who is molech?

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"Philip Dormitzer, Pfizer Chief Scientific Officer: 'HEK293T cells, used for the IVE assay, are ultimately derived from an aborted fetus. On the other hand, the Vatican doctrinal committee has confirmed that they consider it acceptable for Pro-Life believers to be immunized.'"

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Hekate 5 cells?

Yes, the HEK 293 cell line.

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2+9+3= 15 = 1+5 = 6

I never connected it to Hekate though.  hmm.


I actually have had a question about this.

So if a clone deteriorates after 3 replications, is there anything left resembling the actual baby from 1973 that this cell line is derived from?  The first set of cells is long gone.

Personally I think they refill the labs with fresh aborted cell lines and label them the same, but I have been curious about this.


2+9+3=14  ;)


Only the vessel remains, and that's all they need.

😳😳  it sure does 😂😂😂


('twas an early morning... again.)


Why is THIS vessel more important than any other vessel?  They have so many to choose from.  Why is this one??

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: When was..
« on: October 12, 2021, 12:52:33 PM »
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When was...the molech statue the vatican placed in front of the coliseum removed? What started at that time? Who is molech?

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"Philip Dormitzer, Pfizer Chief Scientific Officer: 'HEK293T cells, used for the IVE assay, are ultimately derived from an aborted fetus. On the other hand, the Vatican doctrinal committee has confirmed that they consider it acceptable for Pro-Life believers to be immunized.'"

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Hekate 5 cells?

Yes, the HEK 293 cell line.

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2+9+3= 15 = 1+5 = 6

I never connected it to Hekate though.  hmm.


I actually have had a question about this.

So if a clone deteriorates after 3 replications, is there anything left resembling the actual baby from 1973 that this cell line is derived from?  The first set of cells is long gone.

Personally I think they refill the labs with fresh aborted cell lines and label them the same, but I have been curious about this.

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: Random musings
« on: October 12, 2021, 09:36:35 AM »
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Ok now how the hell do I use Paypal. Can you explain it step by step.

sheepdog..


1. go to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
2. go to the left hand side where it says "Menu" and click on that.
3.  Click "Personal"

4. Click "Send and Request Money"
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5. Choose "Sign Up"
6. Choose "Personal Account"
7.  Follow the steps to sign up.

At some point it asks you for the name, email, or phone number to whom you are sending the money. 

You then enter "nrgiseternal@gmail.com" in that box.

It asks if this is for "Friends or Family" or to "Pay for Goods."

I always choose the "Send Money to Friends and Family" option when sending money to Nick.  Not only does he qualify for those categories, but there are zero fees for him and he gets every dollar of the money I send.

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: GM Mosquitos
« on: October 11, 2021, 06:12:24 PM »
Why would a town in New York spray for mosquitos at the end of Sept? Wouldn't you think it was the end of mosquito season?

curious and curiouser...



Aerial spraying to reduce numbers of disease-carrying mosquitoes over five southwestern Cattaraugus County towns began Monday night after being delayed for several days by weather conditions.

Duflo owner Jeff Duflo told health department officials he thought it would take four nights to do the initial spraying. Wind and rain had prevented him from flying from Friday through Sunday nights.

Kontrol 30-30 contains permethrin and is highly toxic to bees and extremely toxic to aquatic organisms, including fish and aquatic invertebrates.

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: When was..
« on: October 10, 2021, 04:27:44 PM »
more on Moloch

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Distinction should be made between human sacrifice as a sporadic deed at a time of crisis and distress, such as the holocaust of the son of Mesha king of Moab (II Kings 3:27), or as an act which serves to express an unusual degree of religious devotion as the binding of Isaac (cf. Micah 6:7), on the one hand, and the Moloch cult which was an established institution with a fixed location (the Topheth), on the other.
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WTF is this crap from the Jewish Virtual Library.  "Yeah, it's okay for the (Jewish) Phoenicians to kill kids as sacrifices when they lost wars, or for Isaac etc to do it, it's not like they did it all the time like the Molech cult"

No, it doesn't surprise me. 
But still...!!  🤬🤬🤬


OH... and Ginsberg just distorted the god completely.  As (((they))) do... always twisting truths around.  🙄🙄

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Moloch also features prominently in the second part of the poem Howl, arguably Allen Ginsberg's most recognizable work. In this poem, Moloch is interpreted as representative of American greed and bloodthirstiness, and Ginsberg parallels the smoke of the sacrificed humans to the pollution created by factories.
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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: When was..
« on: October 10, 2021, 04:24:46 PM »
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Who is molech?

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Like some other gods and demons found in the Bible, Moloch appears as part of medieval demonology, primarily as a Prince of Hell. This Moloch specializes in making mothers weep, as he takes particular pleasure in stealing their children. According to some sixteenth century demonologists, Moloch's power is stronger in October.

some people think Molech was really Ba'al- Hadad (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login)  but others think he was associated with Ba'al and was not Ba'al. 

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John Day, in his book Molech: A God of Human Sacrifice in the Old Testament claims that there was indeed a Canaanite god whose name was rendered Melek in the Old Testament. Day cites evidence of this god from the Ugraritic texts, which are serpent charms, where he appears as Malik. Malik, he claims, is equivalent to Nergal, the Mesopotamian god of the underworld who is listed upon god lists from ancient Babylonia. Day concludes that this evidence is consistent with Moloch's malevolent status in the Old Testament, described in Isaiah 57.9 where the prophet parallels sacrifice to Moloch with a journey into the underground world of Sheol.

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So Molech Prince of Hell...

Rome’s new exhibit (runs from Oct 15 2021- Jan 9 2022)  is all about hell.

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It will document a wide range of hell-related iconography, from the Middle Ages to the present day, in what is hailed as the first major art exhibition dedicated to this theme.

Curated by Jean Clair, the "powerful, ambitious and spectacular" show will take visitors on a terrifying visual journey into the depths of hell,
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The Gate of Hell will be displayed (pix and thread)
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More on Rodin's Gate of Hell

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: Random musings
« on: October 10, 2021, 12:39:41 PM »
interesting story out of NY


Researchers have discovered that when two people are listening to the same story -- whether it be the reading of a book or watching a Netflix series -- their hearts beat to the same rhythm.

The discovery comes from a September paper in Cell Report called 'Conscious processing of narrative stimuli synchronizes heart rate between individuals.' 

It claims that even if you're not in the same room with someone, if you're hearing the same story at the same time as another person, your hearts beat in sync.

They can be listening to stories all alone at home, and their heart rate fluctuations will align with the story, and thus correlate with other listeners. It's not the interaction between people but the story itself that does the trick.' 

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: When was..
« on: October 09, 2021, 09:33:45 AM »
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When was...the molech statue the vatican placed in front of the coliseum removed? What started at that time? Who is molech?

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March of 2020, wuflu vaccinations, hes an entity that demands child sacrifice. So they are telling us it (the shot) is a sterilizing agent for those who survive other side-effects? Or that women wont be able to carry to term resulting in miscarriages and such. Possibly in the next generation, hard to say.
I presume thats what you are getting at, either way.

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The statue of Moloch, worshipped by both the Canaanites and the Phoenicians, is part of an exhibit dedicated to Ancient Rome’s once-great rival, the city of Carthage. The large-scale exhibition, titled Carthago: The immortal myth, runs until March 29, 2020
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March 29th was the 13th Sunday of 2020.

It is the Knight's of Columbus Founder's Day

and

Smoke and Mirrors Day.


The statue was from a movie "Cabiria," in which a young girl fleeing a volcano eruption  (Yahweh!) was captured and she was going to be a sacrifice to Moloch. 

The movie prop Moloch was deliberately put in front of the Coliseum by the Vatican.  It makes me wonder if (((they))) were trying to invoke a battle between Yahweh and Ba'al. 

The day M was removed from the Collesiem, (fake) pope called for global ceasefire because of covid.  His sermon that day spoke of Lazarus and Jesus reviving him from the dead.  The message was "Have Faith"

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Trump called for more social distancing that day. 

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: GM Mosquitos
« on: October 08, 2021, 08:00:41 PM »
references for the second post 😅

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: GM Mosquitos
« on: October 08, 2021, 04:53:19 PM »
TL;DR: 

The beagle experiments Fauci did were to develop a vaccine for the tropical disease lymphatic filariasis.  This disease is transmitted by mosquitos and caused by microscopic roundworms.  One type of the mosquito that can carry it is the Aedes mosquito, which they have released millions and millions of them across the globe in their mosquito modification programs.

This disease is found in India, the Caribbean, Malaysia, etc etc.



Dr.Fauci spent $400K+ on experiments on beagles.  They infected 28 beagles with a parasite and then killed all the dogs after 3 months. 

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The ‘White Coat Waste Project’ informed that the beagles were healthy when they were subjected to parasite infestation.
To add to that, the said parasite was also known to spread to humans. The WCW Project noted that the dogs suffered 3 months of excruciating pain and that they were euthanised for blood collection after the experiments were over. As per the documents obtained, the experiments were conducted in September 2020 at the University of Georgia. The Project accused Dr. Fauci of ordering the experiments and later blaming it on the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Division. The Project also revealed that cruel experiments were undertaken to find a treatment for a ‘tropical disease’ named lymphatic filariasis. It added that the tests were also conducted on animals, other than beagles.
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The dogs could not be adopted out because they were contagious to humans.  Why did they do this? 

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Greg Trevor, associate vice president for marketing and communications at the University of Georgia said the research was for a potential vaccine, developed at another institution, that would protect against a disease affecting 120 million people.
He said in an emailed statement that under federal rules, a vaccine must be tested in two animal species before it can be cleared for human clinical trials. When NIAID decided to fund this research, the agency determined that the research needed to be conducted on a dog model.
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They claim to be looking to create a vaccine for lymphatic filariasis, aka elephantiasis.   

This is in the search result for filarias under WHO.  Sadly, they have revamped their website so I can't reference it now.

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The parasitic disease covered is caused by nematodes of the superfamily Filarioidea. Although this group includes lymphatic filariasis (elephantiasis), onchocerciasis (river blindness), loiasis (Calabar swelling) and forms of mansonellosis, the term filariasis is usually used to describe lymphatic filariasis caused by Wuchereria bancrofti, Brugia malayi or B. timori."

this is what it says now:

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Lymphatic filariasis, commonly known as elephantiasis, is a painful and profoundly disfiguring disease. It is caused by infection with parasites classified as nematodes (roundworms) of the family Filariodidea that are transmitted through the bites of infected mosquitos. Mosquito-transmitted larvae are deposited on the skin from where they can enter the body. The larvae then migrate to the lymphatic vessels where they develop into adult worms, thus continuing a cycle of transmission.

Wucberia bancrofti is a filarial (arthropod-borne) nematode (roundworm) that is the major cause of lymphatic filariasis. It is one of the three parasitic worms, together with Brugia malayi and B. timori, that infect the lymphatic system to cause lymphatic filariasis

The mosquito vectors of W. bancrofti have a preference for human blood; humans are apparently the only animals naturally infected with W. bancrofti
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River blindness... that is what Ivermectin has been known for curing...

In 2020, an Indian dr tested his covid patient for the W. bancrofti.  It was the first documented case of co-morbidity. 

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During his stay, microfilaria of Wuchereria bancrofti was detected incidentally on a blood smear exam. Consequently, the patient received appropriate treatment for both conditions. In order not to miss relevant concomitant diagnoses, it is prudent to keep a broad differential diagnosis when faced with SARS-CoV-2–infected patients; this is especially true when atypical symptoms are present or in areas endemic with other infections. 
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Interesting that Ivermectin has cured all the covid cases in India... maybe it wasn't just covid there....

So what is lymphatic filariasis?? It's microscopic roundworms that get into your lymphatic system and cause your body to swell.

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Lymphatic filariasis which is caused due to transmission of parasitic worms by mosquitoes is a contagious disease. Lymphatic filariasis is contagious even during the stage when larvae are getting converted into full- grown parasites. The infected person may not even show any symptoms of elephantiasis at this stage. An infected mosquito can however transfer the parasite/ larvae from one person to another. In most cases, the mosquitoes transfer the larvae of the parasite, rather than the full grown parasite itself, into the human host. Though the filarial parasites grow within the lymph nodes, larvae of these parasites have the ability to penetrate into the bloodstream and can obstruct the blood flow through the blood vessels or the nodes. Other serious medical conditions such as gangrene and streptococcal lymphangitis may precipitate as a result of elephantiasis larvae infection.
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It's contagious between people, and is carried by several types of mosquitos.  One type that carries it is the Aedes mosquitos - the same ones that are being released by the millions by various companies.  The modified mosquitos were given a modified Wolbachia bacteria to carry.  The filariasis nematodes also a carry Wolbachia bacteria. 

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Wolbachia pipientis is a widespread intracellular bacterial symbiont of arthropods and is common in insects. One of their more exotic and unexpected hosts is the filarial nematodes, notable for the parasites responsible for onchocerciasis (river blindness), lymphatic filariasis (elephantiasis) and dirofilariasis (heartworm). Wolbachia are only present in a subgroup of the filarial nematodes and do not extend to other groups of nematodes either parasitic or free-living. In the medically and veterinary important species that host Wolbachia, the symbiont has become an essential partner to key biological processes in the life of the nematode to the point where antibiotic elimination of the bacteria leads to a potent and effective anti-filarial drug treatment.
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So Fauci wanted to make a vaccine for this.  But eradicating filariasis has been a goal for the UN for many years.  Scientists across the world have been working on drugs to cure this. They found a simple antibacterial worked to elimate filariasis.  Two new drugs were created by AstraZenica and others that specifically target the Wolbachia bacteria.  There are two medicines in Phase II trials (since 2019). 

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AAWZ1066S showed far superior efficacy (depletion of Wolbachia and sterilisation of microfilaria production) than the ‘Gold-standard’ anti-Wolbachia drug, doxycycline, at 7-day treatment regimens in two independent filarial infection animal models. Importantly, AWZ1066S is highly specific against Wolbachia with little effect against a range of clinically relevant bacterial strains. This high specificity against Wolbachia minimises the impact on the gut microbiota, lowering the risk of dysbiosis (microbial imbalance) and the selection and emergence of resistance, in comparison to other anti-Wolbachia based broad spectrum antibiotic treatments.
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Were Fauci's dog trials researching the new  two treatment methods?  Or was he having his labs develop an entirely new vaccine for lymphatic filariasis?   Was he using US taxpayer money to study this because he felt it was a threat to the US? 

A 2021 paper noted that many tropical diseases are just not treated in the Caribbean because of costs. 

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Neglected tropical diseases (NTDs) in developing countries like the Caribbean, negatively affect multiple income-generating sectors, including the tourism industry upon which island states are highly dependent. Insect-transmitted NTDs include, but are not limited to, malaria, dengue and lymphatic filariasis. Control measures for these disease, are often ignored because of the associated cost. Many of the developing country members are thus retained in a financially crippling cycle, balancing the cost of prophylactic measures with that of controlling an outbreak
(9)

Perhaps Fauci anticipated the influx of Haitian immigrants (an anticipated 60K are expected to cross over the Texas border this month)  (10).  Knowing tropical lymphatic filariasis exists in Haiti, and knowing many of these illegal immigrants are infected, and knowing they are entering Texas where millions of mosquitos are released....

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / GM Mosquitos
« on: October 08, 2021, 01:21:08 PM »
Much of Southern California lacks humidity (except during monsoon season), and doesn't have many mosquitos and biting bugs. 

Not this year.  There millions of mosquitos everywhere.  We would be outside for 2 hours and come back in with 20-30 mosquito bites.  People had huge welts across their limbs.  The bugs were biting at all times of the day.  You could not hide. 

My friends in Texas are also getting attacked by mosquitos all hours of the day.  Some of the bugs are the size of your thumb.

My mind immediately blamed Gates' bugs.  So I started researching it; I didn't sleep much for days.  I have quite a bit of research that connects to other areas too.  My laptop is in need of repair so this is all from my phone and takes a bit longer to type. 

TL;DR:

They modified male Aedes aegypti mosquitos by inserting a bacteria into them to make them sterile.  Their plan didn't work like they anticipated and the mosquitos bred anyways.  Millions of mosquitos are now spreading across the southern border of the US.  Starting this year, they released mosquitos modified by CRISPR technology in Florida to see if this method worked instead.

Most of us knew all this mosquito plan existed.  But there's more to this topic than just this surface plan of eradicating bugs.




The Basics:

The news says the Aedes aegypti mosquitos came to CA in 2015 on shipping containers.  (1) They can carry West Nile Virus, Zika, Chikungunya, Dengue and Yellow Fever viruses. (2)

In 2017, Google's company Verily released 15M+ of Aedes mosquitos in Fresno, CA.  Fresno is a moderate sized town in California's Central Valley in the middle of the state.  Central Valley provides a large amount of the produce in the US. 

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The male Aedes Aegypti mosquitoes have been infected with a naturally-occurring bacteria called Wolbachia back in Verily's high-tech labs in San Francisco. 
Once they're released, they'll attempt to mate with other female Aedes Aegypti mosquitoes and the bacteria will effectively result in them producing dud eggs, with the hopes of causing the population to taper off over time. 
This process is referred to as the sterile-insect technique, where a population is killed off by limiting its ability to reproduce. "
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Other articles say it was 20M+ bugs that were released by Google. But they told people in Fresno not to worry about the millions of new bugs all around them; only females bite humans.

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The Debug mosquitoes are not genetically modified, but rather infected with a naturally-occurring bacteria called Wolbachia. These infected males are expected to mate with males, creating nonviable eggs that will result in a population drop. In addition, male mosquitoes don’t bite, meaning Fresno residents shouldn’t be worried about their presence. Similar projects have been launched by organizations like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, using Wolbachia to combat deadly mosquitos. Verily’s innovation is in creating machines that automatically raise, count and sort the mosquitoes according to sex, making the campaign viable for large-scale use.  (4)

So that was 2017.  The scientists and media cheered when the population dropped and their planned seemed to be working.

Funny thing is, if you go back to the EPA'S website, you find that they approved the studies of the modified mosquitos to start in 2015- NOT 2017.  So the media's story of the 2015 "shipping containers" could easily be more MSM BS. They started their tests in 2015.

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EPA has approved and expanded an existing experimental use permit (EUP) for Wolbachia pipientis-infected Aedes aegypti mosquitoes. Wolbachia are naturally occurring bacteria commonly found in most insect species, but not in the Aedes aegypti. The EUP was issued to the University of Kentucky’s Department of Entomology (UKDE) in October 2015 for limited testing in Fresno County, California. The updated EUP also authorizes testing to evaluate the Wolbachia pipientis bacteria’s effectiveness in suppressing and eliminating Aedes aegypti mosquitoes at particular sites in Fresno and Orange County in California and Monroe County in Florida.
Wolbachia pipientis are bacteria that generally do not occur in wild populations of Aedes aegypti. This strain of Wolbachia is extracted from Aedes albopictus embryos and microinjected into Aedes aegypti embryos.  These male Aedes aegypti mosquitoes are shipped to testing sites where they are released and mate with wild-type Aedes aegypti females that do not carry Wolbachia. After mating, the bacteria prevents the new embryos from developing properly so the mosquitoes cannot successfully reproduce.  (5)

In 2019, an article came out stating that the GMO mosquitos were breeding with local native mosquitos and had hybrid babies. They were cross breeding with other mosquito species, too.
 The plan of creating sterile mosquitos didn't work.   These hybrids took on the DNA from both parents, including some of the GMO DNA. 

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For 10 years, the company Oxitec has been testing whether genetically modified (GM) mosquitoes can suppress populations of their natural brethren, which carry devastating viruses such as Zika and dengue. Its strategy: Deploy (nonbiting) male Aedes aegypti mosquitoes bearing a gene that should doom most of their offspring before adulthood.
Now, a team of independent researchers analyzing an early trial of Oxitec's technology is raising alarm—and drawing fire from the firm—with a report that some offspring of the GM mosquitoes survived and produced offspring that also made it to sexual maturity. As a result, local mosquitoes inherited pieces of the genomes of the GM mosquitoes, the team revealed last week in Scientific Reports.

But the paper's suggestion that this genetic mixing could have made the mosquito population "more robust"—more resistant to insecticides, for example, or more likely to transmit disease—has triggered anti-GM news reports, a backlash from some scientists, and strong pushback from Oxitec. The company, a subsidiary of U.S. biotech Intrexon, has a lot at stake; it recently submitted a new generation of its GM mosquitoes for U.S. regulatory review and hopes to conduct its first U.S. field test next year.

Even before Oxitec conducted pilot releases of its altered mosquitoes in Brazil, Malaysia, and the Cayman Islands, it knew the inserted gene wasn't inevitably lethal. Lab tests had shown that when the GM males mated with wild females, roughly 3% of their offspring survived. "We've been very clear about that," Rose says.
What wasn't clear was whether those rare offspring, often sickly in the lab, could themselves produce progeny, Powell says. 

Last week, the U.S. Environmental Protection opened a monthlong window for public comments on the company's proposed releases in Florida and Texas.  (6)

So we have known releases in Brazil, Malaysia, Cayman Islands, CA, Texas, and Florida.

The testing on creating these GMO bugs has been going on since at least 2009. In 2014, they realized that mosquitos with the Wolbachia bacteria actually carried West Nile Virus at a rate higher than those without it.  (7) 

This was an interesting blog on the whole topic, which I found while doing my one research.

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At one point, they were considering using Spiroplasma in place of the Wolbachia, where the University of California ran, as far as we know, limited experiments with Spiroplasma, even as the potential connection between Spiroplasma and Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies (TSE) was brought up in earlier congressional hearings. Most of the earlier tests taking place around Georgia and Florida in the 50s and 60s were done using the Aedes aegypti mosquito.

Present day tests are going with the idea that the mosquitoes will breed themselves out due to the infertility inflicted on them by the Wolbachia or Spiroplasma, but it was also found that the mosquitoes began mating with other species of Aedes mosquitoes, such as Aedes albopictus.  This was already demonstrated to occur from as far back as 1949, when the University of Kansas and the International Health Division of the Rockefeller Foundation published the results in Experiments in Crossing the Aedes (Stegomyia) aegypti Linneus and Aedes (Stegomyia) albopictus Skuse. The EPA then included the Aedes albopictus into the Wolbachia-enhanced mosquito program the following year in 2017. 
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TSE is prion disease (like mad cow disease).

In 2020, Oxitec came out with portable water solvable capsules filled with GM Aedes mosquito eggs.

"Effective mosquito control without the use of insecticides can now be achieved by soaking an egg-filled mini capsule in water, thanks to new technology developed by Oxitec Ltd.

The mini capsule is being developed to be the first insect-based Aedes aegypti technology that can be manufactured in centralized facilities around the world and then shipped, stored and deployed on demand anywhere, without the need for expert staff or special equipment or tools for handling.
It is intended to be a cost-effective, customizable approach to successfully controlling the disease-carrying mosquitoes in a range of environments"  (9)

This same company changed the method of treating mosquitos from using the bacteria to using CRISPR technology to modify the male's genes to see if this method worked better.  Those mosquitos were released in Florida this year.  They were filing for permission to release them in Texas, too.

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Aedes aegypti makes up about 4% of the mosquito population in the Keys, a chain of tropical islands off the southern tip of Florida. But it is responsible for practically all mosquito-borne disease transmitted to humans in the region, according to the Florida Keys Mosquito Control District (FKMCD), which is working closely with Oxitec on the project. Researchers and technicians working on the project will release bioengineered male Aedes aegypti mosquitoes, which don’t bite, to mate with the wild female population, responsible for biting prey and transmitting disease. The genetically engineered males carry a gene that passes to their offspring and kills female progeny in early larval stages. Male offspring won’t die but instead will become carriers of the gene and pass it to future generations. 
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So now egg pods can be released anywhere in the world, and they can add water to activate it and release the GM bugs.

Oxitec Ltd is funded by the Gates Foundation. 

This is the basics of the mosquito modification program.


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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: When was..
« on: October 08, 2021, 12:35:34 PM »
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So why are genies often.portrayed as granting wishing in malevolent or less than ideal manners

I don't question the concept that genies are ourself.  I can see that mankind has used the genie idea to be able to perform actions that society, or their own conscience, may frown upon. 

But I thought true djinn were some of the entities of the darkness who existed before light and before men were on this plane?  The ancient Sumerian stories and the more recent Middle Eastern stories say the djinn are mischievous entities who lived in the dark before terra firma. Millions of people believe in the djinn and ifrit, and have since before we created time.

I know there are many darkness dwellers. Aren't the djinn and ifirt among them? 

This is why I spoke of genies the western bastardization,and not djinn the entities

THANK YOU! 

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: When was..
« on: October 08, 2021, 09:48:53 AM »
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So why are genies often.portrayed as granting wishing in malevolent or less than ideal manners

I don't question the concept that genies are ourself.  I can see that mankind has used the genie idea to be able to perform actions that society, or their own conscience, may frown upon. 

But I thought true djinn were some of the entities of the darkness who existed before light and before men were on this plane?  The ancient Sumerian stories and the more recent Middle Eastern stories say the djinn are mischievous entities who lived in the dark before terra firma. Millions of people believe in the djinn and ifrit, and have since before we created time.

I know there are many darkness dwellers. Aren't the djinn and ifirt among them? 

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: When was..
« on: October 07, 2021, 01:03:35 PM »
If you are on Telegram, this is an interesting channel on D.U.M.B.S., CERN, etc.

D.U.M.B.S and Underground War
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I was searching for all their revelant posts on Geneva and the search feature found me posts with "gateway" as well.  Interesting 😎

For those of you not on telegram, here is a thread someone posted from info from that channel:

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and from that channel:


🇨🇭BABYLON CASE
CHAPTER 1.1🇨🇭

Large #European #Bubble #Chamber (BEBC).

As photos of the #BEBC show, windows in the chamber allow both artificial and natural light to enter, while the larger and deeper circular entrances can serve as tunnels¹ to external capsules¹ or submarine ports. Because of the BEBC's subdivided structure, the Roman Empire in Greenland (which commands both CERN and the CIA) can flood a particular chamber or capsule² if it deems its inhabitants a potential threat. Access to the BEBC under Lake Geneva is likely by train from one or more of CERN's 6 entrances (see below) and by¹ submarine² through the Geneva² tunnel³, which apparently begins in Genoa¹, Italy².

#Switzerland #Babylonfall #CERN #BEBC #Italy #Genoa #entrances #train #tunnel #capsules #Greenland #RomanEmpire #subterranean #LakeGeneva #CIA #flooding



Greenland ... interesting... Trump wanted to buy it.

The USCGC is currently there...

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From breaking 4.5 feet of Arctic ice to traversing 15-foot waves off the western coast of Greenland, the USCGC Healy can handle it, all the while operating in temperatures as low as -50 F & deployed for up to 6 months.

#polarops #arctic #Healy #icebreaker
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Also...

Geneva, NY is named after Geneva, Switzerland

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Geneva is a city in Ontario and Seneca counties in the U.S. state of New York. It is at the northern end of Seneca Lake; all land portions of the city are within Ontario County; the water portions are in Seneca County. The population was 13,261 at the 2010 census.[3] The city is supposedly named after the city and canton of Geneva in Switzerland.[4] The main settlement of the Seneca was spelled Zoneshio by early white settlers, and was described as being two miles north of Seneca Lake.
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Seneca Lake is in the Finger Lakes; in fact, it's the largest one. 

There's a submarine base in that lake.

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  There is still a Naval facility at Seneca Lake, the Naval Undersea Warfare Center (NUWC) Sonar test facility. A scale model of the sonar section of the nuclear submarine USS Seawolf (SSN 21) was tested during the development of this ship,[citation needed] which was launched in June, 1995.
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Do you remember Stephen Hawkings went on a submarine? 

Do you remember Gizzy Maxwell has a submarine license? 

Disneyland has a submarine ride.  Legoland does too.  Kids love submarines. 

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: When was..
« on: October 07, 2021, 12:41:44 PM »
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Consider this. Aladdin and the genie are one entity...

I wasn't drugged enough when I read that mid afternoon. 🤪

Like in Fight Club... or Alice in Wonderland... we are our own enemy and savior and can make our own dreams come true. 

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