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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: The last of us
« Last post by Firefly369 on Today at 10:41:45 AM »
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I'm sorry, FireFly. I just now saw this post. I honestly don't know the answer to this question. However, I can tell you from direct observation in a hospital setting that current smokers, to my surprise, did not catch Covid all too often. If they did, their recovery was pretty prompt and mostly asymptomatic compared to that of non-smokers. I'm not advocating for anyone to go out and smoke. I'm just telling you what I saw from first-hand accounts and observable patterns.

Now if I were to speculate with my medical knowledge, I would say it probably had less to do with the nicotine and more to do with the underlying sequela of the effects of smoking. Meaning the person's lungs have slowly acclimated and got used to living in a state of constant inflammation and imbalance within their lungs slowly over time. Hence, it wasn't a big shock to their systems because they had become so used to living in a state of chronic inflammation to the point that their body, immune system, and inflammatory reactions were compensated.

I draw this conclusion because, through observation, I noticed the same thing with asthmatics (who were theorized) at high risk for mortality, intubation, and ventilation and ended up being mostly asymptomatic with some of the quickest recovery times more than likely because their lungs are typically always in an inflammatory state as well.

The people with the worst outcomes were those whose bodies and lungs had the worst systemic inflammatory and immunological response to Covid. They ultimately all developed cytokine storms that led to ARDS (Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome). If they were lucky enough to have survived, they would have severe fibrotic lung tissue damage from the scaring and tissue remodeling from ARDS- which some people are terming "Long Covid."

So in a sense, the person's immune system was so shocked and highly reactive that it behaved similarly to that of an autoimmune disease.  And anyone who's had any experience with Autoimmune disease knows that not only are they deadly and devastating it's also the body's ultimate betrayal as your immune system is supposed to help you but ends up hurting you instead. Look at anyone with Systemic Lupus or any of the myriad autoimmune diseases.

I hope that sheds some light on it. Again, these are just my personal views from my direct observations of dealing with these patients.

I think many of the nicotine/ covid studies focus on the enzyme 2 (ACE 2) or the nicotinic cholinergic system and how nicotine affects those items.  Unfortunately, many of the studies seem to be from 2020 (and published in 2021).  Although this is a great historical record since they reflect the behavior of the populationís bodies to the original Covid ďvirusĒ, itís not possible to assume this information would be exactly the same in the most recent covid ďstrains.Ē  Itís probable that the results would be the same, but not guaranteed.   

Here are a couple which (I donít believe) are government funded.  This is also an issue in sorting nicotine/covid studies. 

From nicotine to the cholinergic anti-inflammatory reflex Ė Can nicotine alleviate the dysregulated inflammation in COVID-19?
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Early epidemiologic studies documented lower rates of active smokers compared to former or non-smokers in symptomatic patients affected by coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). It was hypothesized that nicotine may interact with SARS-CoV-2 entry in human cells by downregulating the expression of angiotensin converting enzyme 2, and might mitigate the inflammatory response induced by the virus through activation of the nicotinic cholinergic system. This multicentre, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial aimed to determine the efficacy and safety of nicotine administered by a transdermal patch in critically ill patients with COVID-19 pneumonia who were receiving invasive mechanical ventilation. The results show that transdermal nicotine did not significantly reduce day-28 mortality. 60-Day mortality, time to successful extubation, days alive and free from mechanical ventilation, renal replacement therapy, vasopressor support or organ failure were also not modified by nicotine.
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I know as an asthmatic myself, when I got what was probably covid (didnít test myself, but it was very prevalent in the area at the time, and a housemate tested positive), having asthma did not help me fight covid in any way at all.  Of course, I do not have severe asthma, and can go years without using an inhaler.  The initial response of my body was probably 5-7 days of sore throat and body aches, but the bronchitis and sinus infection took a few more weeks to get rid of.  I didnít get an inhaler until about 12 days in.   

My sister, who has fibromyalgia as well as other AI disorders, tests positive for covid every 90-100 days.  The J&J shot (donít think she had a booster, but maybe) did not help at all.  Of course, she assures me she would be much worse off without the magic shot.  In her case, having an auto immune disorder doesnít help with covid either.

I think there are so many personal factors that these studies cannot take into affect.  Mental health and Spiritual health play a huge role in our physical health.  However, you canít easily find a group of people with the same physical, mental and spiritual characteristics.  Scientists must match characteristics that can be physically measured. Although mental health screenings can help get an insight into oneís mental health, the screenings are subjective and responses can change daily.  It would be interesting though to see if the physical factors (like smoking) connect to the mental factors (ex:  are smokers more anxious?  Does that hyper state of your nerves help fight off covid?).

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: The last of us
« Last post by BigBlue1982 on Today at 04:02:25 AM »
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Regarding the problem with the lungs, here is a reasonable explanation why: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

That’s a good post.  I still don’t subscribe to the germ theory BUT I do believe the covid “response” is as he explains the virus to be. 

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login I keep meaning to ask you.  We’ve known nicotine helps fight off covid.  Do Nicotine patches work just as well?  I’m not keen on taking up smoking, especially not in CA where the cigarettes are rolled with poisons.  I’ve heard nicotine patches can help induce lucid dreams.  Target had these patches 50% off last fall (probably getting rid of the strongest and most beneficial types lol) but I didn’t know if they were a good alternative (as a covid preventative or treatment) to inhaling tobacco.  I see in the post they suggest nicotine lozenges, but unless you already like the taste of nicotine, I can’t imagine those are pleasant to suck on for hours.

I'm sorry, FireFly. I just now saw this post. I honestly don't know the answer to this question. However, I can tell you from direct observation in a hospital setting that current smokers, to my surprise, did not catch Covid all too often. If they did, their recovery was pretty prompt and mostly asymptomatic compared to that of non-smokers. I'm not advocating for anyone to go out and smoke. I'm just telling you what I saw from first-hand accounts and observable patterns.

Now if I were to speculate with my medical knowledge, I would say it probably had less to do with the nicotine and more to do with the underlying sequela of the effects of smoking. Meaning the person's lungs have slowly acclimated and got used to living in a state of constant inflammation and imbalance within their lungs slowly over time. Hence, it wasn't a big shock to their systems because they had become so used to living in a state of chronic inflammation to the point that their body, immune system, and inflammatory reactions were compensated.

I draw this conclusion because, through observation, I noticed the same thing with asthmatics (who were theorized) at high risk for mortality, intubation, and ventilation and ended up being mostly asymptomatic with some of the quickest recovery times more than likely because their lungs are typically always in an inflammatory state as well.

The people with the worst outcomes were those whose bodies and lungs had the worst systemic inflammatory and immunological response to Covid. They ultimately all developed cytokine storms that led to ARDS (Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome). If they were lucky enough to have survived, they would have severe fibrotic lung tissue damage from the scaring and tissue remodeling from ARDS- which some people are terming "Long Covid."

So in a sense, the person's immune system was so shocked and highly reactive that it behaved similarly to that of an autoimmune disease.  And anyone who's had any experience with Autoimmune disease knows that not only are they deadly and devastating it's also the body's ultimate betrayal as your immune system is supposed to help you but ends up hurting you instead. Look at anyone with Systemic Lupus or any of the myriad autoimmune diseases.

I hope that sheds some light on it. Again, these are just my personal views from my direct observations of dealing with these patients.
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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: Random musings
« Last post by Anon66F on Today at 02:02:25 AM »
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I didnít watch the Grammys but plenty of other people did.  I wonít watch shows like that, and IF I watch clips, itís only short excerpts and no sound.

I will do the same for the Super Bowl show.  There are too many subliminal messages included in the sounds for me to listen to it.


𝗦𝗮𝘁𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗰 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗺𝗺𝘆𝘀 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟯?

𝗔 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱 🧵

We've all seen the Satanic-Themed Sam Smith performance at the Grammys, but let's take a look at some other hidden aspects that depicts much more elaborate planning in all this.

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Disgusting Freak-Show, in that song from "Unholy" they also mention Balenciaga & Fendi, btw. And Jay-Z mocking the last supper in his performance. Still waiting for the day when those "artists" find their balls to do that with Islamic faith. Will be interesting to see if their Overlord can protect them from getting their throats cut by some muslim fundamentalists.
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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: Random musings
« Last post by Firefly369 on Today at 12:46:47 AM »
I didnít watch the Grammys but plenty of other people did.  I wonít watch shows like that, and IF I watch clips, itís only short excerpts and no sound.

I will do the same for the Super Bowl show.  There are too many subliminal messages included in the sounds for me to listen to it.


𝗦𝗮𝘁𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗰 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗺𝗺𝘆𝘀 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟯?

𝗔 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱 🧵

We've all seen the Satanic-Themed Sam Smith performance at the Grammys, but let's take a look at some other hidden aspects that depicts much more elaborate planning in all this.

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The Coffee Lounge / Re: New Music
« Last post by Firefly369 on February 07, 2023, 12:28:40 PM »
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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Don't make me name names
« Last post by Nrgiseternal on February 06, 2023, 01:55:47 AM »
So many of you drink from the well but do not replenish... I'm asking for your sake do your part please

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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: The forsaken
« Last post by Nrgiseternal on February 06, 2023, 12:15:16 AM »
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I just ran across the story of Crowley performing the abraelin and not closing the portal after he was done

Perhaps this is the reason so many things come here energetically speaking

So Crowley being well Crowley... CUT OUT WHAT HE DEEMED TO BE EXTRANEOUS from the original abramelin text as well as "improved" it....
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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: The forsaken
« Last post by Nrgiseternal on February 06, 2023, 12:13:55 AM »
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How does one kill such a creature?  Is there anything that harms them without killing them?

How often do they reproduce?  How do they reproduce, and how many offspring are born at each time?  Is there something humans create that sterilizes them (similar to how plastics and chemicals reduce hormones in humans)?

With the deforestation of the world, their habitat range should be much smaller than it once was.  When rival wolf or lion groups are forced to go into the same range, only one group survives.  How come this is not the same for these creatures?

Are there pictures of these creatures in medieval books? 

You dont

Well I would not kill such a creature.

But could someone with the knowledge and ability to do it, actually do it?  Could other creatures kill this creature?

How can anyone accurately count them since they are experts in disguise?

If we canít stop them from mutiplying then there is no hope.  Unless they turn on themselves, like humans are apt to do.

Still, you don't
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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: The forsaken
« Last post by Undestroyer on February 05, 2023, 10:15:59 PM »
I just ran across the story of Crowley performing the abraelin and not closing the portal after he was done

Perhaps this is the reason so many things come here energetically speaking
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Let's Get Down & Dirty / Re: For those who asked
« Last post by Nrgiseternal on February 05, 2023, 02:51:37 PM »
Thanks to the 3 of you who helped. You know you have my gratitude. To everyone else all i can say is if you're planning a grand gesture down the line now would be a good time lol
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