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OP: June 29, 2020, 05:44:52 PM
First off. I would like to apologize for any misgivings during my last time being active on  this site, especially to nrg/nick. I talked alot of crap, and got banned. I have since seen/experienced alot and have focused myself in new ways.

If I am honest, I never stopped visiting the site. I have found many valuable leads through the things posted here. If anyone is curious, my old handle here was "Sordid" which was, admittedly an unsavory choice but in hindsight was how I felt about myself. I had shit to deal with, that I have mostly dealt with now.

I look forward to being part of the discussions that take place here, and hopefully will be able to contribute in meaningful ways instead of asking endless questions (aka expecting to be spoonfed).
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#1: June 29, 2020, 06:51:00 PM
I for one am thrilled that you're back we all have our moments myself included the fact that you returned shows not only that you've grown but that your growth rate will go exponential
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I for one am thrilled that you're back we all have our moments myself included the fact that you returned shows not only that you've grown but that your growth rate will go exponential

Thank you! Something I want to mention, your descriptions of visualization and how it has to be trained was something I found hard to digest (before I could do it in any meaningful way), but I stuck with it, and now recently, after years of almost no progress it felt like, have seen a great uptick in my ability. I credit the spark of inspiration to you guys here!
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I for one am thrilled that you're back we all have our moments myself included the fact that you returned shows not only that you've grown but that your growth rate will go exponential

Thank you! Something I want to mention, your descriptions of visualization and how it has to be trained was something I found hard to digest (before I could do it in any meaningful way), but I stuck with it, and now recently, after years of almost no progress it felt like, have seen a great uptick in my ability. I credit the spark of inspiration to you guys here!

Glad to hear it. Visualization is most definetely incrementally developed but when you can start conjuring detailed mental images of people you just invented the world is yours.
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I for one am thrilled that you're back we all have our moments myself included the fact that you returned shows not only that you've grown but that your growth rate will go exponential

Thank you! Something I want to mention, your descriptions of visualization and how it has to be trained was something I found hard to digest (before I could do it in any meaningful way), but I stuck with it, and now recently, after years of almost no progress it felt like, have seen a great uptick in my ability. I credit the spark of inspiration to you guys here!

Glad to hear it. Visualization is most definetely incrementally developed but when you can start conjuring detailed mental images of people you just invented the world is yours.

Not quite there, but am at the point of visualizing landscapes of a "fractal" quality that is constantly shifting in myriad ways, or creating still images that can serve as a base for dream-states, or detailed images of objects in a black void.

Dreams are a mess for me still, I need to keep up on my journal so I can progress further towards lucidity and, eventually astral projection. I know there is not much of a difference between the two, but to me lucidity is a more self-directed experience.
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I for one am thrilled that you're back we all have our moments myself included the fact that you returned shows not only that you've grown but that your growth rate will go exponential

Thank you! Something I want to mention, your descriptions of visualization and how it has to be trained was something I found hard to digest (before I could do it in any meaningful way), but I stuck with it, and now recently, after years of almost no progress it felt like, have seen a great uptick in my ability. I credit the spark of inspiration to you guys here!

Glad to hear it. Visualization is most definetely incrementally developed but when you can start conjuring detailed mental images of people you just invented the world is yours.

Not quite there, but am at the point of visualizing landscapes of a "fractal" quality that is constantly shifting in myriad ways, or creating still images that can serve as a base for dream-states, or detailed images of objects in a black void.

Dreams are a mess for me still, I need to keep up on my journal so I can progress further towards lucidity and, eventually astral projection. I know there is not much of a difference between the two, but to me lucidity is a more self-directed experience.

When it comes to visualization try and stay away from the abstract stuff like fractals for now and focus on photorealistic image visualization that will get you where you want to go the fastest
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I for one am thrilled that you're back we all have our moments myself included the fact that you returned shows not only that you've grown but that your growth rate will go exponential

Thank you! Something I want to mention, your descriptions of visualization and how it has to be trained was something I found hard to digest (before I could do it in any meaningful way), but I stuck with it, and now recently, after years of almost no progress it felt like, have seen a great uptick in my ability. I credit the spark of inspiration to you guys here!

Glad to hear it. Visualization is most definetely incrementally developed but when you can start conjuring detailed mental images of people you just invented the world is yours.

Not quite there, but am at the point of visualizing landscapes of a "fractal" quality that is constantly shifting in myriad ways, or creating still images that can serve as a base for dream-states, or detailed images of objects in a black void.

Dreams are a mess for me still, I need to keep up on my journal so I can progress further towards lucidity and, eventually astral projection. I know there is not much of a difference between the two, but to me lucidity is a more self-directed experience.

When it comes to visualization try and stay away from the abstract stuff like fractals for now and focus on photorealistic image visualization that will get you where you want to go the fastest

Thanks for the tip! Will do  8)
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I for one am thrilled that you're back we all have our moments myself included the fact that you returned shows not only that you've grown but that your growth rate will go exponential

Thank you! Something I want to mention, your descriptions of visualization and how it has to be trained was something I found hard to digest (before I could do it in any meaningful way), but I stuck with it, and now recently, after years of almost no progress it felt like, have seen a great uptick in my ability. I credit the spark of inspiration to you guys here!

Glad to hear it. Visualization is most definetely incrementally developed but when you can start conjuring detailed mental images of people you just invented the world is yours.

Not quite there, but am at the point of visualizing landscapes of a "fractal" quality that is constantly shifting in myriad ways, or creating still images that can serve as a base for dream-states, or detailed images of objects in a black void.

Dreams are a mess for me still, I need to keep up on my journal so I can progress further towards lucidity and, eventually astral projection. I know there is not much of a difference between the two, but to me lucidity is a more self-directed experience.

When it comes to visualization try and stay away from the abstract stuff like fractals for now and focus on photorealistic image visualization that will get you where you want to go the fastest

When you visualize, do you have to do it in first person or third person view? Because visualizing things in first person is what I find most challenging.  When I close my eyes and try to visualize I end up seeing myself from behind in 3rd person

Also, is closed eye visualization better than with your eyes open?
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I for one am thrilled that you're back we all have our moments myself included the fact that you returned shows not only that you've grown but that your growth rate will go exponential

Thank you! Something I want to mention, your descriptions of visualization and how it has to be trained was something I found hard to digest (before I could do it in any meaningful way), but I stuck with it, and now recently, after years of almost no progress it felt like, have seen a great uptick in my ability. I credit the spark of inspiration to you guys here!

Glad to hear it. Visualization is most definetely incrementally developed but when you can start conjuring detailed mental images of people you just invented the world is yours.

Not quite there, but am at the point of visualizing landscapes of a "fractal" quality that is constantly shifting in myriad ways, or creating still images that can serve as a base for dream-states, or detailed images of objects in a black void.

Dreams are a mess for me still, I need to keep up on my journal so I can progress further towards lucidity and, eventually astral projection. I know there is not much of a difference between the two, but to me lucidity is a more self-directed experience.

When it comes to visualization try and stay away from the abstract stuff like fractals for now and focus on photorealistic image visualization that will get you where you want to go the fastest

When you visualize, do you have to do it in first person or third person view? Because visualizing things in first person is what I find most challenging.  When I close my eyes and try to visualize I end up seeing myself from behind in 3rd person

Also, is closed eye visualization better than with your eyes open?

Great question...

1st person but dont picture it in your mind...picture it here in the real world. For some people that's really tough so starting off visualizing  in your mind is fine but eventually the goal is to visualize it  not internally but externally
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I for one am thrilled that you're back we all have our moments myself included the fact that you returned shows not only that you've grown but that your growth rate will go exponential

Thank you! Something I want to mention, your descriptions of visualization and how it has to be trained was something I found hard to digest (before I could do it in any meaningful way), but I stuck with it, and now recently, after years of almost no progress it felt like, have seen a great uptick in my ability. I credit the spark of inspiration to you guys here!

Glad to hear it. Visualization is most definetely incrementally developed but when you can start conjuring detailed mental images of people you just invented the world is yours.

Not quite there, but am at the point of visualizing landscapes of a "fractal" quality that is constantly shifting in myriad ways, or creating still images that can serve as a base for dream-states, or detailed images of objects in a black void.

Dreams are a mess for me still, I need to keep up on my journal so I can progress further towards lucidity and, eventually astral projection. I know there is not much of a difference between the two, but to me lucidity is a more self-directed experience.

When it comes to visualization try and stay away from the abstract stuff like fractals for now and focus on photorealistic image visualization that will get you where you want to go the fastest

When you visualize, do you have to do it in first person or third person view? Because visualizing things in first person is what I find most challenging.  When I close my eyes and try to visualize I end up seeing myself from behind in 3rd person

Also, is closed eye visualization better than with your eyes open?

Great question...

1st person but dont picture it in your mind...picture it here in the real world. For some people that's really tough so starting off visualizing  in your mind is fine but eventually the goal is to visualize it  not internally but externally

'Where' exactly are you when you visualize in your mind and when you close your eyes? Another higher plane? Are our 'imaginations' and what takes place in 'the mind' all taking place on a higher plane we also simultaneously exist on?

If that is the case, then I think it would make sense that you ultimately have to visualize it 'here' with your eyes open. When you do that, you do it 'here' but also on all the planes above.
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I for one am thrilled that you're back we all have our moments myself included the fact that you returned shows not only that you've grown but that your growth rate will go exponential

Thank you! Something I want to mention, your descriptions of visualization and how it has to be trained was something I found hard to digest (before I could do it in any meaningful way), but I stuck with it, and now recently, after years of almost no progress it felt like, have seen a great uptick in my ability. I credit the spark of inspiration to you guys here!

Glad to hear it. Visualization is most definetely incrementally developed but when you can start conjuring detailed mental images of people you just invented the world is yours.

Not quite there, but am at the point of visualizing landscapes of a "fractal" quality that is constantly shifting in myriad ways, or creating still images that can serve as a base for dream-states, or detailed images of objects in a black void.

Dreams are a mess for me still, I need to keep up on my journal so I can progress further towards lucidity and, eventually astral projection. I know there is not much of a difference between the two, but to me lucidity is a more self-directed experience.

When it comes to visualization try and stay away from the abstract stuff like fractals for now and focus on photorealistic image visualization that will get you where you want to go the fastest

When you visualize, do you have to do it in first person or third person view? Because visualizing things in first person is what I find most challenging.  When I close my eyes and try to visualize I end up seeing myself from behind in 3rd person

Also, is closed eye visualization better than with your eyes open?

Great question...

1st person but dont picture it in your mind...picture it here in the real world. For some people that's really tough so starting off visualizing  in your mind is fine but eventually the goal is to visualize it  not internally but externally

'Where' exactly are you when you visualize in your mind and when you close your eyes? Another higher plane? Are our 'imaginations' and what takes place in 'the mind' all taking place on a higher plane we also simultaneously exist on?

If that is the case, then I think it would make sense that you ultimately have to visualize it 'here' with your eyes open. When you do that, you do it 'here' but also on all the planes above.

Depends on who you are. Some stay here some go other places.
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